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UK: Councillors call for work to discover why Muslim rape gangs “disproportionately from Pakistani community”

Jan 14, 2019 4:00 pm By Robert Spencer

The reason why rape gangs are “disproportionately” from the “British Pakistani community” is easy to find. The problem is that no one in Britain wants to face it.

One survivor of a Muslim rape gang in the UK said that her rapists would quote Quran to her, and believed their actions justified by Islam.

The Qur’an teaches that Infidel women can be lawfully taken for sexual use (cf. its allowance for a man to take “captives of the right hand,” 4:3, 4:24, 23:1-6, 33:50, 70:30). The Qur’an says: “O Prophet, tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to bring down over themselves of their outer garments. That is more suitable that they will be known and not be abused. And ever is Allah Forgiving and Merciful.” (33:59) The implication there is that if women do not cover themselves adequately with their outer garments, they may be abused, and that such abuse would be justified.

“Councillor call for more work to identify why disproportionately high number of grooming suspects are from Pakistani community,” by Chris Young, Telegraph & Argus, January 13, 2019 (thanks to Paul):

COUNCILLORS have argued that more needs to be done to identify why a high proportion of grooming perpetrators in Bradford come from the Pakistani community.

During the debate one Councillor said he was “gobsmacked” that police had few answers as to why this was the case. Others said the community was no longer willing to brush the issue under the carpet, and were now more readily reporting crimes committed by their community.

Bradford Council’s Bradford East Area Committee was discussing the issue of Child Sexual Exploitation in the constituency at a meeting on Thursday.

Police and safeguarding bosses told members of the good work being done to educate people how to spot the dangers of grooming.

Councillor David Ward (Ind, Bolton and Undercliffe) said while this work was commendable, the report didn’t seem to include any reference to the fact that British Pakistani men were disproportionately more likely to be perpetrators of CSE offences.

The most recent figures into grooming investigations show that out of all recent CSE cases investigated in the past year 39 per cent of perpetrators were British Pakistani.

Every story in which the names of the “grooming gang” members are released, they’re all Muslim names, with only a scattered handful of exceptions. So 39% seems to be a whitewashed, low-balling figure.

Cllr Ward said he had seen the report a number of times before, and claims it needed to show clearer links on how efforts to tackle CSE were informed by statistics on victims and perpetrators.

“These figures show there is a disproportionate numbers of Pakistani male perpetrators. Why is that?”

When he was told that was not an answer police could give at that time, Cllr Ward replied: “This is an issue we have been looking at in depth for many years, and we still can’t say why disproportionately it seems Pakistani men are more likely to be perpetrators than other groups?”

He said he was “gobsmacked” police hadn’t done more work investigating this link, adding “This is not simply about catching people who do this type of crime, it is about knowing why people are do0ing this. Unless we know why certain people do this, then we can’t stop them.”…

Councillor Riaz Ahmed (Lib Dem, Bradford Moor) said: “We need to find out why this is happening. We owe it to the victims, and we owe it to the innocent people in the Pakistani community. If we don’t find out why this is happening, then we can never address it. We need to look at the perpetrators and how they are linked. If we don’t find these links we can’t address these issues. This is a problem we have to sort out. I’m in that group – British Pakistani men, and we need to address this, if we don’t know the root of the problem we can’t address it.

“For many years this was an issue that was brushed under the carpet. We have to look at these figures and see what the solutions are.”…

Why was it “brushed under the carpet”? For fear of charges of “racism” and “Islamophobia.”

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  1. ntesdorf says

    Jan 14, 2019 at 4:29 pm

    Pakistanis are the majority Muslim Group in Britain. Any other Muslim Group could have claimed the Title of Greatest Rape Source if they they had been numerous enough. They are all reading from the same book, the Qur’an.

    • Dawne says

      Jan 16, 2019 at 6:14 am

      Exactly

  2. Michael Copeland says

    Jan 14, 2019 at 4:33 pm

    Misinformation comes from the top down. The Government Spokesman in the House of Lords, Lord Young, emphatically instructed the House of Lords:

    “There is nothing in the Koran that encourages the sort of activity …referred to”.

    That hugely erroneous statement vividly shows the culpable negligence of Theresa May’s government. Lord Young is no Koran scholar, nor is Theresa May, yet they present themselves, preposterously, as knowledgeable experts.

    • Wellington says

      Jan 14, 2019 at 5:00 pm

      Indeed, Michael Copeland.

      Such willful ignorance in our time by British elites, American elites, Canadian elites, French elites, German elites, et al. represents, quite arguably, the most massive miscalculation about an enemy in all of Western history, which enemy intends the total eradication of the best of the West.

      At least the first wave of Germanic invaders in the late ancient period were actual admirers of classical civilization, e.g., the Ostrogoth, King Theodoric (493-526). And the second wave of Teutons who disrupted Western Civilization most terribly, i.e the Vikings, from the eighth to the eleventh centuries, eventually adopted Western Civilization and its civilizing religion, Christianity, as their own.

      But no such hope can be extended to modern Muslim invaders of the West who, insanely, have ACTUALLY been INVITED into the West by clueless (or in some instances complicit) Western elites. Yes, counting on Muslims to respect the civilization which pioneered freedom as no other civilization remotely has (including the capacity to apologize for past wrongdoings—and I would here rhetorically ask when has the Islamic world, which has engaged in enormous wrongs over the centuries, e.g., African slavery, EVER apologized for anything?) is a fool’s errand of the first degree. Arguably, the greatest fool’s errand of all time.

      • Michael Copeland says

        Jan 14, 2019 at 5:38 pm

        “Battle, animosity, and hatred — directed from the Muslim to the infidel — is the foundation of our religion” –
        Osama bin Laden
        “Destroying the Western civilisation from within” –
        Muslim Brotherhood Explanatory Memorandum

    • mortimer says

      Jan 15, 2019 at 12:54 am

      There is NO PUNISHMENT in Sharia law for a Muslim who RAPES a kafir. The rationale is that KAFIRS DESERVE HUMILIATION.

      Muslims consider RAPE to be one of the BEST OF HUMILIATIONS. Rape is considered a form of jihad.

      Drawing closer to Allah through Rape: Rape is Prayer
      From an August 2015 New York Times report:
      In the moments before he raped the 12-year-old girl, the Islamic State fighter took the time to explain that what he was about to do was not a sin. Because the preteen girl practiced a religion other than Islam, the Quran not only gave him the right to rape her—it condoned and encouraged it.
      He bound her hands and gagged her. Then he knelt beside the bed and prostrated himself in prayer before getting on top of her. When it was over, he knelt to pray again, bookending the rape with acts of religious devotion…. ‘ I kept telling him it hurts – please stop.”
      Other girls testified to the same treatment, mixing sex and acts of devotion: “Every time that he came to rape me, he would pray. He kept telling me this is ibadah,” a term from Islamic scripture meaning “worship.” He said that raping me is his prayer to God. It’s allowed. It’s halal.

    • Anne Smith says

      Jan 15, 2019 at 5:24 am

      The British establishment, led by Javid Sajid, the Home Secretary, is working hard to foster the belief that the problem of rape gangs is cultural rather than anything to do with their religion, Islam.
      They are trying to blame the area from which they come in Pakistan rather than any teachings in the Koran which may permit such behaviour.
      By and large they are getting away with it, but thanks to sites such as Robert Spencer’s the indigenous British are beginning to realise what Islam means and stands for.
      Reader’s’ comments on sites such as the Daily Telegraph website shows that awareness is beginning to sink in.
      It is a pity that our politicians are unable to understand what this ideology preaches.

    • TheBuffster says

      Jan 15, 2019 at 10:14 am

      Michael Copeland – “The Government Spokesman in the House of Lords, Lord Young, emphatically instructed the House of Lords:

      “ ‘There is nothing in the Koran that encourages the sort of activity …referred to.’ ”

      As if the Koran is the only Islamic text that influences Muslims. There’s plenty of hatred of unbelievers in the Koran, but it tells us very little about the life of Muhammad – the perfect example of a Muslim, who is to be emulated. You get that from the Hadith and the Sira.

      So even if something isn’t in the Koran that doesn’t mean it’s not in Islam, except to “Koran only” Muslims, who are not mainstream authorities.

      • Michael Copeland says

        Jan 15, 2019 at 11:00 pm

        Quite so. Lord Young’s statement was in response to this question from Lord Pearson:

        “Will the Government ask our Muslim leaders whether the perpetrators can claim that their behaviour is sanctioned in the Koran….”

        – general murmurings of disapproval and reproach –

        “…and to issue a fatwa against it?”

        https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/03/uk-lord-asks-government-to-ask-muslim-leaders-to-issue-fatwa-against-rape-gangs-gets-lies-in-response

    • TheBuffster says

      Jan 15, 2019 at 10:40 am

      On the other hand, you could say – if I’m not mistaken – that there is nothing *exactly* like the grooming gang scenario in the Koran or the life of Muhammad, in that the Muslims with Muhammad didn’t take women into sex slavery unless they had first conquered their community through war. The Muslims doing the grooming perhaps consider that they are doing a kind of jihad by reverse order, either subjugating vulnerable girls first and then either demonstrating the weakness and ready submission of the community that won’t prosecute them, or hoping to stir up strife between the two communities that they hope will lead to violent confrontation between the Islamic and Unbelieving communities.

      Sure, maybe they’re mainly rotten bastards who look to the spirit, not the letter, of Muhammad’s rules and actions, just for a justification to rape girls. But there’s so much in the Islamic texts that heaps scorn and hatred on unbelievers and that justifies making war on them for their disbelief and taking conquered women as sex slaves, it’s easy for such bastards to ignore technicalities and just get down to the sex enslavement bit.

  3. Wellington says

    Jan 14, 2019 at 4:35 pm

    Duh, and a la John McCain, clueless though McCain remained to his death, it’s “the Islam” which is responsible.

  4. Michael Copeland says

    Jan 14, 2019 at 4:40 pm

    “Lawful to you are …..what your right hands possess”
    (Koran 4:24).
    These men have done nothing wrong in Sharia.
    Their sex-slaves, artfully entrapped in rape Jihad, are theirs by sharia law.

    Somebody tell Bradford councillors.

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 14, 2019 at 11:34 pm

      +1

  5. somehistory says

    Jan 14, 2019 at 4:48 pm

    Councillor Riaz Ahmed *knows why.* He says, “I’m in that group – British Pakistani men”… so he knows exactly WHY this is the case.

    Just makes one wonder how many little girls have been his victims. Since it is islam at the “root” of the problem, he will not admit it. When the root is guarded and protected, the “cause” can never be publicized. If it cannot be publicized, it can not be addressed by those who might put an end to the gang rapes by moslim creeps with pakistani heritage. They may all be *male*…but none of them are “men.”

    The “root” is islam. The “cause” is islam. The reason they will keep the lid on that is because it’s islam and they must not expose islam for the evil it is. They work hard to preserve the “image of the wild beast.”

    • Michael Copeland says

      Jan 14, 2019 at 5:32 pm

      The fact that some councillors are muslim, and probably police and social workers too, is an important component.

      • mortimer says

        Jan 15, 2019 at 12:59 am

        Please also consider that PAKISTANI MEN are the NUMBER ONE ‘WINNERS’ of online searches for ALL TYPES of pornography including the MOST VICIOUS and ANIMALISTIC TYPES.

  6. FYI says

    Jan 14, 2019 at 5:25 pm

    The usual equivocatory nonsense….best stated as follows…

    “isLAM has nothing to do with ISlam… which is completely different to IsLaM and must not be confused with iSlAm:that’s just being racist ,culturally insensitive and “islamophobic” innit?”

  7. Michael Copeland says

    Jan 14, 2019 at 5:43 pm

    So Google does not skew search results?

    Search this first on Google, and then on DuckDuckGo:

    Lord Young: “There is nothing in the Koran that encourages the sort of activity …referred to”.

    The results are quite different.

  8. A_M_Swallow says

    Jan 14, 2019 at 5:44 pm

    > So 39% seems to be a whitewashed, low-balling figure.

    Alternatively the police only investigate cases where the child sex offence perpetrators are white men (and boys).

  9. somehistory says

    Jan 14, 2019 at 6:12 pm

    Yes, there is total infestation, and none of them will turn their “brothers” in for something they believe is just fine behavior, fine and totally acceptable. Much less admit that islam is the source of the wrongs committed. Which, is crazy considering that they will also say when caught, that it is their “culture” and their “culture” is islam.

    • somehistory says

      Jan 14, 2019 at 6:14 pm

      The above comment was in response to Michael Copeland.

  10. R Russell says

    Jan 14, 2019 at 6:50 pm

    If someone, or in this case a group of people are constantly in denial about something, that denial turns into delusion.
    Thus the UK authorities, cannot believe the unbelievable and to prevent cognitive dissonance continue to look for a non-Islamic reason why these Pakistani men continually rape non-Muslim underage girls.
    It’s been covered up for more than 25 years now. The delusion is very strong.

  11. eduardo odraude says

    Jan 14, 2019 at 10:42 pm

    I don’t know if it was accurate, but I saw a story that said UK Pakistani Muslims, but not as many other UK Muslims, were doing this. Pakistan does seem to be among the most fanatical of Muslim nations, to judge by the stories that are always coming out of that country.

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 14, 2019 at 11:38 pm

      That’s part of it–it is also that Pakistanis make up the largest group of Muslims in Britain–to the point where “Paki” has become a shorthand term for Muslims in general there.

      • mortimer says

        Jan 15, 2019 at 12:55 am

        PORNISTANIS !

        Pakistan is top dog in searches per-person for “horse sex” since 2004, “donkey sex” since 2007, “rape pictures” between 2004 and 2009, “rape sex” since 2004, “child sex” between 2004 and 2007 and since 2009, “animal sex” since 2004 and “dog sex” since 2005, according to Google Trends and Google Insights, features of Google that generate data based on popular search terms.

        The country also is tops — or has been No. 1 — in searches for “sex,” “camel sex,” “rape video,” “child sex video” and some other searches that can’t be printed here.

        • gravenimage says

          Jan 15, 2019 at 11:05 pm

          Yes–I’ve heard this before, Mortimer.

    • R Russell says

      Jan 15, 2019 at 4:10 am

      Eduardo,
      At the end of last year, a Pakistani Christian Aasia Bibi was finally acquitted after 10 yrs in solitary confinement on a trumped up charge of blasphemy. (for her own safety because other inmates and staff were trying to kill her)
      The whole country came to a standstill because of the riots over her acquittal. Other Christians in Pakistan have been convicted of blasphemy since then.
      https://www.britishpakistanichristians.org/
      Pakistan is No5 on the world list of countries persecuting Christians.
      https://www.opendoorsuk.org/persecution/countries/
      The next link is about what happened in the UK where as usual the authorities did nothing until it was nearly too late in spite of knowing what was happening to this man..
      https://metro.co.uk/2016/11/06/man-flees-home-after-converting-to-christianity-from-islam-leads-to-attack-6239445/

  12. gravenimage says

    Jan 14, 2019 at 11:28 pm

    UK: Councillors call for work to discover why Muslim rape gangs “disproportionately from Pakistani community”
    ……………………….

    *Duh*. Willful ignorance, indeed.

  13. na says

    Jan 14, 2019 at 11:48 pm

    Corrupted Police are also supporting Islam indirectly. They are getting bribe. So the aim is always secret.

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 14, 2019 at 11:59 pm

      No–this has more to do with “political correctness” and what is going on at the top. The idea that every police officer in the UK has been bribed–and is corrupt to begin with–is ridiculous.

      • Roger Woodhouse says

        Jan 15, 2019 at 4:58 am

        That depends on your definition of ‘bribe’.Bribary comes in many forms.ie job preservation?Instructions from above.?Job promotional prospect? It has to be one or more of these things as the police seem to act as one at all demonstrations favouring antifa over the ‘right’.Well thats my observations anyway.

        • Anne Smith says

          Jan 15, 2019 at 5:31 am

          Th sinister “training ” programme of Common Purpose is an important driver in the corruption of the police. It is a system through which all aspiring public service officials are now expected to engage if thy want promotion.
          It promotes political correctness and hard left views. Most high ranking officials have now undergone its indoctrination, such as Cressida Dick of the Met Police and the “retired” Alison Saunders of the Crown Prosecution Service.
          Some of the social services officials who did so little to protect the raped girls of Rotherham were also graduates of this so called “training” programme.

        • gravenimage says

          Jan 15, 2019 at 11:06 pm

          True, Roger and Anne.

  14. Dude says

    Jan 15, 2019 at 1:23 am

    They assume that if we let them into our country, then they can follow their religion which they brought with them. Therefore it is approved even encouraged that they murder, rape, enslave, and rob non-muslims. It is permissible to marry six year olds,
    and have sex with their nine year old wives. All just because God’s angel said so. And he knows better than our governments. So we have no say about what they can do, because our silly laws have no jurisdiction over them. Their delusions of grandeur from bowing mumbling poems five times a day really makes them believe their superiority, no matter what God thinks of their insincere prayers and empty monstrous hate-filled lives.

  15. Peter WF says

    Jan 15, 2019 at 4:13 am

    This just sounds like the decision to ignore the obvious was a group decision. So it was no body’s fault.
    The multiculturals have learnt this from Japanese culture.

  16. Xero_G says

    Jan 15, 2019 at 4:39 am

    Could the high incidence of Pakistani families inbreeding; allowing marriages between first cousins (I’ve seen figures as high as 70%) have anything to do with this?

  17. simpleton1 says

    Jan 15, 2019 at 6:07 am

    Many more grooming rapists have been arrested.

    Police have arrested 55 men in connection with historical child sex abuse cases in West Yorkshire. ……
    All the men were interviewed and released under investigation, the force said. …..
    The allegations are connected to offences in the Kirklees area, predominantly in the towns of Dewsbury and Batley.
    https://www.theweek.co.uk/98949/west-yorkshire-police-arrest-55-men-over-child-sex-abuse

    Incidentally the town of Dewsbury has a high Pakistani population.

    The names, photos and lives of the arrested alleged Gatwick airport drone ‘hassler’ were freely and quickly released by the British police, to be dammed by the media and to suffer public ire.
    Then the back down slow back down by the police.

    It seems that there is a ” “perfect” power above”, controlling police, judiciary and media, suppressing names of a grooming gang of rapists, to also stop “public ire”?.

    One wonders what part of the public make the most amount of “ire” and what actions they use?

    When will this cover up be further exposed?

    • simpleton1 says

      Jan 15, 2019 at 6:10 am

      The date of that article is Monday, 14 January 2019 and those arrests of the 55 men started in November 2018.

      • simpleton1 says

        Jan 15, 2019 at 6:13 am

        https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leeds-46867001
        Sorry the enclosed block quote is from the BBC link here. 14th January 2019.
        The first link also reports the same police report.

  18. Matthew Edwards says

    Jan 15, 2019 at 8:15 am

    Until the UK bites the bullet and insists on identifying Islam being the common term by which the perps themselves self identify, we will never resolve this criminal phenomena.

  19. Jim says

    Jan 15, 2019 at 8:32 am

    The UK in general, has cultural issues going back to Jimmy Savile. Why did they ignore him for so long? Why are the ignoring the muslim rape gangs for so long? The evil runs deep in the UK and the citizens don’t have the back bones to up root it or are too afraid of what the will find.

  20. Rapist Scum says

    Jan 15, 2019 at 12:11 pm

    German Ex- Policecommisar say the Muslim Clans(mostly from Lebanon) do the same.Also the politicians knew it(Children are raped and forced to Prosti.)and did nothing.

    https://www.epochtimes.de/politik/deutschland/ex-polizist-enthuellt-wie-die-polizei-prostitution-drogen-und-waffenhandel-foerdert-auf-weisung-der-politik-a2765370.html?meistgelesen=1

  21. james reid says

    Jan 16, 2019 at 12:43 pm

    Typical! Piddling, interfering bureaucrats! Want Committees set up etc. – to be paid for out of the Public Purse – ‘nice little Earner’. The simple answer is staring them & everybody in the face! Special Education, a deep insight & investigations are not needed. Duh!

    • A_M_Swallow says

      Jan 16, 2019 at 6:51 pm

      I consider this good news. The councillors almost certainly know what is going on. They probably want the police to make the existence of the evils official by getting the police to put them in the report.

      The wheels of government move slowly but once they start they keep moving.

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