For years, Leftists, Islamic spokesmen, dhimmi Christians and others have called me a racist, bigoted “Islamophobe” because I have pointed out that Islam teaches these things. Will they go after Othman Al-Khamis and charge him with misunderstanding his own religion, which he has dedicated his life to understanding and explaining properly? Not on your life.
“Kuwaiti Cleric Othman Al-Khamis: Non-Muslims Must Convert to Islam, Pay Jizya, or Be Fought and Killed; Don’t Be Ashamed of Our Religion; Apostates Must Be Killed, Don’t Feel Sorry for Them,” MEMRI, October 14, 2015 to January 9, 2019:
In his weekly fatwa session, which he uploads to his YouTube channel, Kuwaiti cleric Othman Al-Khamis said that apostates must be killed. In a video uploaded on January 9, 2019, Sheikh Al-Khamis said that apostasy is tantamount to scorning Islam. In an October 14, 2015 video, Sheikh Al-Khamis said that only infidels may be enslaved, adding that people who do not worship Allah must convert to Islam, pay the jizya poll tax, be forced into slavery, or be fought against and killed. He urged people to not be ashamed of their religion and not to feel sorry for the apostates Al-Khamis added that people should not feel sorry for infidels who are punished for refusing to obey Allah.
Following are excerpts:
Sheikh Othman Al-Khamis, on January 9, 2019: Killing an apostate is not done in order to make him a Muslim [again]. Apostates are committing a crime, just like adulterers. If an adulterer is married, he is stoned. If he is not married, he is flogged. If the conditions for chopping off the hand of a thief apply, then the hands of thieves are chopped off. Murderers are killed. All these are punishments for acts committed by these people. The same is true for apostasy. A person who commits apostasy is killed. However, he is left [unharmed] if her repents.
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Such a person is punished because apostasy is tantamount to scorning Islam, and he is therefore punished as if he cursed the Prophet Muhammad or Allah. This is why an apostate is killed. It’s not that we’re trying to force Islam upon him. Islam does not need or want mercenaries. We don’t say: “turn Muslim or we will slaughter you.”
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On October 14, 2015: Only infidels may be enslaved. Muslims may not be enslaved. If there is fighting between Muslims because of fitna or for any other reason… Muslims must not be enslaved. Only infidels may be enslaved.
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I ask people not to be ashamed of their religion and to refrain from saying: “No, this was only in the past, Islam does not call for this…” No! Be firm in your religion, proclaim it, and say: “Yes, this is my religion!” Those who do not want to worship Allah should be enslaved, forced to pay the jizya poll tax, convert to Islam, or fought against. These are the four options, and there is no fifth option. First, a person is called to convert to Islam: “Worship Allah! Allah created you in order for you to worship Him.” If he says: “I don’t want to worship Allah,” we say to him: “If you live on Allah’s land but do not worship Him, you have to pay the jizya.” But if he says: “I will not pay the jizya!”… If he refuses to either worship Allah or pay the jizya, we say to him: “We have no choice but to fight you.” So we fight him for that reason. If we kill him, he goes to the Hellfire, and if we capture him, he becomes a slave. In such a case, he is forced into slavery. Since he refused to willfully become a respected slave [of Allah], he shall become a despicable slave against his will. This is the way things go with people who do not worship Allah. Don’t feel sorry for them. They are infidels who refuse to worship Allah. They refuse to obey Allah. They are hostile toward Allah and they curse Him. People should not be blinded by mercy towards Allah’s enemies. They are aggressors. It is tantamount to showing mercy to a criminal who kills people, robs them of their money, violates the honor of their women, and hurts them… And then someone comes along saying: “True, he killed five or six people, but we must be forgiving.” No. It is wrong to forgive such a person.
Walter Sieruk says
It’s a good idea not to take at face value the claim that the word Islam means “peace.” For example, the ENCARTA WORLD ENGLISH DICTIONARY copyright 1999 defines Islam as “submission” based on the word “aslama” meaning “he surrendered.” Given the definition it’s an odd phenomenon that after about fourteen hundred years starting on September 12, 2001 the meaning changed from “submission” to “peace.” It’s very well known that if the police are questioning someone and he changes his story something is wrong. Nevertheless, when it comes to Islam no one gets suspicious of the change. The jihadists brag that they will win the war against the West by using the Western ignorance and naive gullible mindset on the subject of Islam against us. It seems that they do have some basis in that claim since so many Westerners are beguiled by the Muslim disinformation campaign.
abad says
“….after about fourteen hundred years starting on September 12, 2001 the meaning changed from “submission” to “peace.””
And that meaning can be directly traced to modern-day elite left establishment. Keep in mind that at the time – September 12, 2001 – no Moslem would ever claim Islam means “peace”.
Likewise, the term “Islamophobia” was also invented by the elite left in the United States.
gravenimage says
True, abad, about Islam.
But the term “Islamophobia” seems to have been originally coined by the Iranian Mullahs. Leftists have certainly embraced this false concept, though, and used it to smear good people concerned about the threat of Jihad.
“Did the Muslim Brotherhood invent the term ‘Islamophobia’?”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/08/did-the-muslim-brotherhood-invent-the-term-islamophobia
mortimer says
Yes, GI, but what is OLD and in Sharia law is the concept discussed above: the killing of apostates by anyone. No fatwa is required. If you have an apostate, murdering the apostate will likely be considered an act of heroism and so it will not be punished severly in most Islamic countries.
gravenimage says
True, Mortimer. The killing of apostates dates back to the “Prophet”.
Guy Forester says
Isn’t it interesting that Mao and Stalin worked the same way, as do their successors (president for life Xi, Maduro, Castros, Kim, Putin, etc.)? The left is simply following the same rules followed by all tyrants:
1. Follow me and what I say or suffer the consequences
2. Join my party (or church, or religion) and get special treatment, or suffer the consequences
3. I reserve the right to throw you in the gulag, take you to chop chop square, or to the stake simply because I can and I do not trust anyone
See how easy that is? Now we can understand why the left is so enamored by Islam. They work the same way.
By the way, DJT, do not trust anything from Xi, Putin, or Kim. They intend to destroy us.
gravenimage says
True, Guy. Totalitarian creeds all use grimly similar tactics.
Manuel 2 Paleologus says
And this is what the jesuit Pope Francis intends to do-to submit the Roman Catholic Church to islam. His visit is a direct visible act to show the superiority of Islam over Catholicism. His visit and entrance int a mosque show clearly his intention to show his acceptance of the fact the pagan god of islam is the same as God the Father and the Son and the Holy Ghost.
christianblood says
Kuwait, is another US ally in the Gulf Islamic theocracies!
From Afghanistan, to Kosovo, Bosnia, Serbia, Libya, Yemen, Syria and beyond, U$A is always on the side of the tyrannical islamic theocracies and islamic jihadist groups and states such as Al-Qaeda and Saudi Arabia! Saudi-Arabia=ISIS!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9nV7iPvK1M
christianblood says
US is funneling Billions to Saudi Arabia and Al-Qaeda in Yemen! More below
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeIpNzJhuO0
World@70 says
I don’t believe anything shown on the RT (Russia Today). Why is this network allowed in this country?
gravenimage says
christianblood doesn’t want to say anything critical about his story, so he instead posts a decades-old video of President Bush meeting with the Emir of Kuwait.
What does this video tell us? Nothing, really.
Here’s Putin doing just the same–meeting with the Emir of Kuwait:
http://a57.foxnews.com/images.foxnews.com/content/fox-news/world/2015/11/10/putin-hosts-kuwait-ruler-on-his-first-trip-to-russia/_jcr_content/par/featured-media/media-2.img.jpg/876/493/1447163168343.jpg?ve=1&tl=1
mortimer says
QUICK !!! The JURISTS and LEGAL BEAGLES of the Commonwealth of Australia had better board the next plane to Kuwait to SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT ABOUT “EXTREME” ISLAM.
Cleric Othman Al-Khamis is an ‘EXTREMIST’ according to the Aussie Supreme Court !
The Australian JURISTS (who have not read Islam’s primary texts) should explain to Cleric Othman Al-Khamis that he is AN “EXTREMIST”.
(sarc/off)
gravenimage says
Spot on, Mortimer.
For those not familiar, this is a reference to this disgusting story:
“Australia: Top lawyers, judges and provincial Supreme Court justices go to mosque to show solidarity with Muslims”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2019/02/australia-top-lawyers-judges-and-provincial-supreme-court-justices-go-to-mosque-to-show-solidarity-with-muslims
Rufolino says
Al Kamis’ brazen statement is one of the most arrogant and disgusting things I’ve ever heard.
What could be more contradictory of the values of Christian Civilisation ?
Islam is the Religion of Hate, and has no place being tolerated as an equal by Christianity.
The Pope’s flirtation with these people is shameful.
mortimer says
MESSAGE TO AUSSIE SUPREME COURT FROM CLERIC OTHMAN AL-KHAMIS:
“Apostates should be killed. Don’t feel sorry for them.”
Biography of Othman al-Khamis:
Abu Muhammad Uthmaan Al-Khamis is from Kuwait and is a student of Shaykh Uthaymeen. He is WELL KNOWN through the Arab world amongst the mashaykh and students of knowledge. The shaykh has a Masters Degree in the Hadiths of the Prophet (صلى الله عليه وسلم) and works for the Official Ministry of Endowments in Kuwait. He is also PRESIDENT of the As Safa satellite channel.
Michael Copeland says
Journalists especially have a learning curve when it comes to Islam. Remember this exchange, between Tim Marshall, of Sky News, and an insurgent prisoner in Syria (www.news.sky.com 8 Dec 2012)? He asks him:
“What is the future in Syria for the minorities …?
“O.K., they have three choices, either they became a Muslim, or they have to pay the jizya, or to be killed.”
“Wheesh!!” [or something, expressing surprise and disbelief]
“Do YOU believe this?” he asks incredulously, and to the interpreter,
“Does HE believe this?”
“It is the reality”, the interpreter replies,
“Ya, but does HE believe that this is what SHOULD happen?”
“So, he believes in it, after having the khilafa [Caliphate] … until the muslims they became strong, so they can impose that.”
“Is this what you WANT ?”, asks Marshall,
“Yes.” …
“And you BELIEVE this ?”
“Yes.”
The listener is left with the impression that Tim Marshall does NOT believe what he has just been told.
Othman Al-Khamis Has confirmed it for him.
gravenimage says
Very common. All too many in the West, including journalists, are in *deep* denial over the threat of Islam. They just can’t believe that Islam is really so horrifying.
Ali Toure says
The west are just too dump and educated fools. They are too stupids to see all those atrocities that has been committed by those satanic morons and they are still sleeping.
Rufolino says
+1.
somehistory says
And this is why every barracks is a hotbed of preaching that, if the imam creep has literature on hand is called “radical,’ ALL of them are “radical” …even though the term is misused.
All barracks where moslims meet believe that all non-/former/never-moslims must be killed. If “radical” meant encouraging murder of non moslims, former moslims, and never moslims, then they would all be considered “radical.”
Two words are better though: evil and bloodthirsty. All moslims are taught this. All of them.
Ali Toure says
I concord with you.
Terry Gain says
This is the 3rd Muslim cleric to disagree with the Pope’s interpretation of Islam’s laws of apostasy.
gravenimage says
In just the past few days, that is…
Keys says
Yes, it a “good-cop/bad-cop” performance on the world stage – snow the infidels while assuring the Mohammadans.
*************
Psst, hey kid, want some candy, wanna ride ? Aren’t I nice ? I’m friends with your mom and dad.
Something’s telling me “Don’t be foolish !”
christianblood says
If there is only 100 men doing nothing else but just marching and dressed like knights in the video below in every major Western city there will absolutely NO threat of islamic terror or stealthy islamic jihadist activities in that city within a short few years!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ky6GKty6azk
christianblood says
correction:
here will absolutely be NO threat…
gravenimage says
Yes, this is heartening–I’d like to see more of the same. But the claim that no Muslim will dare carry out Jihad in a region were some march dressed as Knights Templar is not borne out.
What we really need is to stop the flood of Muslims into Dar-al-Harb.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
“Apple and Google Accept Saudi Smartphone App Which Tracks Women’s Movements”
https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2019/02/08/apple-and-google-accept-saudi-smartphone-app-which-tracks-womens-movements/
Keys says
Not because they don’t trust their women, but to protect them from infidels, I’m sure. /sarc off
Maybe they can track Sarsour.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
Canadian women captured and held in Syria (see video interview):
https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/global-affairs-aware-of-canadians-detained-in-syria-1.4290212
gravenimage says
Awful. Thanks for that link, Flavius.
Wellington says
Nothing new here. Crystal clear and quite accurate respecting Islamic doctrine.
Hey, lebel, what do you have to say about this?
gravenimage says
lebel seldom shows up on a thread about the real evil of Islam.
gravenimage says
Muslim cleric says non-Muslims must convert, submit, or be killed, and those who leave Islam must be killed
………………………
Grimly, this is orthodox Islam.
GreekEmpress says
And YouTube allows him to have a channel to spew this hatred???
Shocking, but I guess I’m not surprised.
Michael Copeland says
“…an excellent pattern ….between us and you enmity and hatred forever…”
Koran 60:4, part of Islamic law.
Rufolino says
Hate speech is tolerated (as long as it’s Islamic hate speech.)
ntesdorf says
Othman Al-Khamis sets out the orthodox Islamic position very clearly. Leftist supporters of Islam should take notice.
Tekyo Pantzov says
Tell him to take his camel-driver cult and shove it.
Ashley says
What a warm and fuzzy video.
Islam…the religion of peace, eh?
Debi Brand says
“Muslim cleric says non-Muslims must convert, submit, or be killed, and those who leave Islam must be killed”
Well, of course he states, preaches, and declares such—as Spencer speaks to, the cleric is a well-versed student and master of the teachings and tenets of the alleged “religion” of Muhammad, of course he, therefore, declares that cited.
‘ basic Islam.
Ali Toure says
Religious of evil.
dan christensen says
Every cleric who in public says things like Kuwaiti Cleric Othman Al-Khamis, should be arrested by international arrest order, tried for attempted murder in an international court of law and and convicted for crimes against humanity: As a minimum, life sentence with no possibility of parole.
Mary C. says
Back in the day I saw a child/adolescent psychiatrist whose husband was from Kuwait.
During our last meeting one of the things she discussed with me was that there will be times in life when other people make decisions for you that you don’t like, and mentioned that her boss did that at times, and even her husband. It struck me as odd that her husband would make decisions for her that she didn’t like, because she was such an educated, strong, and independent woman. But then again, the hubby was from Kuwait, so…
gravenimage says
Disturbing and very telling, Mary.
infidel says
This is SHEER VENOM.. Evil in its truest form.. I’m convinced that these vile creatures are beyond reform,
Crusades Were Right says
Death to Islam and “Islamophobia”. Victory to anti-Mohammedanism. Long live Humanity!
TERRA NOVA says
This is such a very, very sick world. Islam will always continue deceiving., fighting, conquering, killing raping,etc. politicians are lying, people are lying, big companies are lying and it continues and gets worse.
The Un, EU, Nato they keep on lying., and the Vatican is lying too.
I have a clear request for Pope Francis to open his big Library, without first taking books out, so people can get the knowledge about who and what they are and the rest of the truth. Why is that library so secret.
Because when the truth comes out, most , if not all dictatorial religions might loose their controle over people and big companies too and politicians too.
When do people ever learn to think for themselves, if people continue like this, WE WILL DESTROY OURSELVES AND THIS EARTH. Is that what you want? I surely hope God will intervene, that is the only hope we have. Because not one country and not one cleric speaks the truth. And who knows the truth,
clerics, who are presenting themselves as people who know it all? and you still believe them. Jesus was the end and with him, the Old Testament ended.
There was somebody who wrote here somewhere ” Then there came a man (Jesus) who proclaimed you had to forgive, even if you kill 6 people, you should forgive him, yes you should try to forgive him, but that does not mean, he should not be punished, but not with torturing him or kill him in a horrible way or in any way, If you do that you put yourselves on the same lowest conscious level as the killer.
Sooner or later the truth will come out of everything and we will become aware what all was and is happening in this world, that is why people still will try to get us even to lie more and still follow the money. The Atlantiens did not listen, and they perished and in the millions of years, it happened to more civilisations.
The terrible things you are aware of that you did them , and don’t change, or at least try to change them, they will fall back on you on a moment you don’t expect it , and those things will not be pretty.
Earth is a learning planet, that is why you are here, TO LEARN, how to live in peace with each other and sharing, it is not about wealth and to have everything, because when you understand that and live by it, the planet reacts accordingly to it and nobody will have to suffer and lack the things one needs to live and not
live in stress and hardships.
I know how it works, went through many experiences, and even now I know a little bit, but I have seen
other planets with people who live in peace with higher consciousnesses and it amazed me how that all works. But people are too greedy here and everybody almost wants the controle, because they think they know it all. I don’t know it all, but what I know, I have experienced it all what I know. Not by books, but by experiences and then by Divine teachers. I thank `God for that`, and even now, it is still very difficult for me to live by the Universal Laws sometimes, because we have everything in us and I have the fights against my own ego and things which are not right, but at least I know what I know.
And Clerics, you are only there to keep controle over other people. I only met Jesus in person once, I was frantic about the human race and asked Him to come now, he looked at me gently and said: look this is what would happen if I came back now, and all of a sudden people came from all sides came out, with guns, knives, lanses, they all attacked Him, and He was bleeding everywhere and He stayed very calm and I wanted to try to help Him, but an invisible wall was put up and He said, if I would come now, they would murder me for the second time. It was the most horrible happening at that moment, I was screaming, but when I got calmer I understood, because that was at that moment how it was, but I never forget it. He will come later when the time is ripe. This was about 10 years ago, and the time is getting closer, but pls don’t mess up more. I want to scream to people to repent, and I have been so angry, and have judged people
and I am busy to get rid of my anger.
And Muslims your prophet Muhammed is not the right Mohammed. The real Mohammed is a man like Jesus, very gentle. You will see him one day , the real one . The Event will and is coming closer.
There are so many people on earth and from the Heavens trying to help us, but it is an enormous job, God is an enormous energy, not a human, and does not think like a human, but God helps the ones who first help themselves, you have to work on everything yourself first.
Me too, I have to stay optimistic and nobody has to believe me, free will, I just hope somebody or me can get through to people in one way or another, because this is not the reality. Reality is total different, but you can’t know that yet because we are living in the 3rd dimension, but with passing the Equinox, we get the possibility to go to the 4th and 5th on this earth with higher consciousness. The 1000 year peace has to come, but this is the 5th time we are trying to reach that and if we mess up again, we will either perish, or the earth continues like this for another 64.000 years and I don’t want that for myself, but for nobody else either, but the choice is up to us, humans.
Nature disasters will happen, because the earth (Gaya) is cleaning herself of what we all did to her, nature and seas and animals, trees, etc. THEY ARE ALL LIVING BEINGS who have different consciousnesses then we have, but THEY DO HAVE THEM, they feel pain too.
Sorry, this whole peace came out of the article of the muslim cleric.
dan christensen says
Gaya is just as useless as any other god:
It sure does not help to ask gods or other ghosts help us out of the planet’s predicament. Observe that until now humans did not possess the power to kill every living creature on this planet. Even with several all-powerful gods around.
The planet is simply overflowing with people – too many people for comfort in fact. Everybodys struggle for food, shelter and survival becomes harder and more vicious. Groups with many members will tend to stick together and fight competing groups by outnumbering everybody else.
Had the planet been one big pig farm, the owner would have reduced the number of pigs to a sustainable level. Unfortunately there are no obvious owner of this planet, the ownership must then revert to Charles Darwin. Our species will be taken care of by “natural selection”.
gravenimage says
Good grief…