Life? Yes, unless you’re not Muslim. In Islamic law, Muslim lives are explicitly worth more than those of non-Muslims. The Shafi’i Sharia manual Reliance of the Traveller dictates: “The indemnity for the death or injury of a woman is one-half the indemnity paid for a man. The indemnity paid for a Jew or Christian is one-third the indemnity paid for a Muslim. The indemnity paid for a Zoroastrian is one-fifteenth that of a Muslim.” (o4.9) Sikhs rank even lower, as they are not People of the Book.
The Shafi’i madhhab is not the only school of Islamic law that teaches this. The Iranian Shi’ite Sufi Sheikh Sultanhussein Tabandeh explains: “Thus if [a] Muslim commits adultery his punishment is 100 lashes, the shaving of his head, and one year of banishment. But if the man is not a Muslim and commits adultery with a Muslim woman his penalty is execution…Similarly if a Muslim deliberately murders another Muslim he falls under the law of retaliation and must by law be put to death by the next of kin. But if a non-Muslim who dies at the hand of a Muslim has by lifelong habit been a non-Muslim, the penalty of death is not valid. Instead the Muslim murderer must pay a fine and be punished with the lash….Since Islam regards non-Muslims as on a lower level of belief and conviction, if a Muslim kills a non-Muslim…then his punishment must not be the retaliatory death, since the faith and conviction he possesses is loftier than that of the man slain…Again, the penalties of a non-Muslim guilty of fornication with a Muslim woman are augmented because, in addition to the crime against morality, social duty and religion, he has committed sacrilege, in that he has disgraced a Muslim and thereby cast scorn upon the Muslims in general, and so must be executed….Islam and its peoples must be above the infidels, and never permit non-Muslims to acquire lordship over them.” — Sultanhussein Tabandeh, A Muslim Commentary on the Universal Declaration of Human Rights
Family? Sure: a husband and his wife and his wife and his wife and his wife. Polygamy dehumanizes women. The Qur’an also calls for the beating of disobedient women (4:34), and Islam devalues women in numerous other ways.
The Pope has been played for a fool by deceptive sharpies including, but not limited to, Ahmed el-Tayeb.
“Leave them; they are blind guides. And if a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit.” (Matthew 15:14)
“Pope Francis: Christianity and Islam Protect ‘Common Values,’” by Thomas D. Williams, Breitbart, February 6, 2019:
Christianity and Islam have more in common than people think, Pope Francis said Wednesday, and the two religions defend common values that are necessary for the future of civilization.
“Despite the diversity of cultures and traditions, the Christian and Islamic worlds appreciate and protect common values: life, family, religious sense, honor for the elderly, the education of the young, and others as well,” the pope told the crowds gathered in Saint Peter’s Square for his weekly general audience.
The pontiff devoted his weekly address to recapping highlights from his recent three-day trip to the United Arab Emirates, the first visit ever from a pope to the Arabian Peninsula, the birthplace of Islam.
“In an era like our own,” Francis said, “in which the temptation is strong to see a clash between the Christian and Islamic civilizations and to consider religions as sources of conflict, we wanted to give a clear and decisive sign, that it is possible to come together, to respect one another and to dialogue.”
On Monday, the pope met with Emirate leaders and signed a joint declaration together with Sheikh Ahmed el-Tayeb, the grand imam of Cairo’s Al-Azhar University, condemning “acts of murder, exile, terrorism and oppression” carried out in God’s name.
We “resolutely declare that religions must never incite war, hateful attitudes, hostility and extremism, nor must they incite violence or the shedding of blood,” the document reads. “These tragic realities are the consequence of a deviation from religious teachings.”
In Wednesday’s address in the Vatican, Francis said that the text served to jointly affirm “the common vocation of all men and women to be brothers and sisters because they are God’s sons and daughters, and we condemn all forms of violence, especially those with religious motivation.”
On Tuesday, the pope celebrated an outdoor Mass in Abu Dhabi with the attendance of an estimated 170,000 faithful, the largest public act of Christian worship ever held on the Arabian Peninsula….
The pope called the trip “short but very important,” declaring that it represents “a new page in the history of dialogue between Christianity and Islam and in the commitment to promote peace in the world on the basis of human brotherhood.”
“A pope went to the Arabian Peninsula for the first time,” Francis said Wednesday. “And Providence wanted it to be a pope by the name of Francis, 800 years after the visit of St. Francis of Assisi to the sultan al-Malik al-Kamil.”…
The pope said that during the trip he prayed that “dialogue between Christianity and Islam might be a decisive factor for peace in today’s world.”
CogitoErgoSum says
Men and women become sons and daughters of God through baptism in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. How many people did the Pope baptize on his visit?
R Russell says
Oh, I think many will disagree with you! Many will also disagree with me!
Baptism (from the Greek to dip or to plunge,) follows conversion when the recipient has recognised that Jesus died for their sin, accepted that sacrifice personally, and turned away from their former life. Anew life begins from a spiritual beginning and continues with the indwelling Holy Spirit to guide.
‘….But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us…..’ Romans 5.
CogitoErgoSum says
My question remains the same. Was there no one waiting to come forth and be baptized due to previous efforts of the Pope (or his emisaries) to spread the words of Christ?
CogitoErgoSum says
I see I spelled emissaries wrong. Sorry.
Satans children lie says
Jesuits took over the catholic cult long ago and islam also, all religions are being taken over by the anti-christ cult of judaism/satanism.
Even the very elect are being deceived.
gravenimage says
I see that the vile “Satans children lie” is ranting about Catholics and Jews. Why doesn’t he just convert to Islam now?
CogitoErgoSum says
After looking more closely into the rules of the Catholic Church it appears that the baptism of an adult into the faith could take as long as a year. However, I’m sure that under certain circumstances the Pope could sometimes allow exceptions to the rules. At any rate, I wonder how many people residing in the UAE were persuaded by the Pope’s visit to inquire about becoming a Catholic. It’s a longer process than just walking up to a priest and asking to be baptized ….. and quite a bit more difficult than reciting the shada. Personally, I think people should be baptized as soon as they ask and THEN be required to learn more specific details about the faith before being confirmed or granted the Eucharist ….. but, of course, I’m not the Pope.
Here is a link to more details: https://www.catholic.com/tract/how-to-become-a-catholic
CogitoErgoSum says
I now see that if I had read the above article more closely people who have never been baptized at all (the Catholic Church recognizes any baptism as long as it was made in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit) may be baptized immediately if they request it. So, the Pope could possibly baptize someone on the spot if the person had never been baptized before.
Stacy Girl says
CES, we no longer have a missionary church. Our faith is inferior to the vast array of worldwide beliefs. Instead, we get paid by governments for importing “migrants” to whom we have no intention of preaching the Gospel. That would be unconscionable. The pope will wear, like Dickens character Jacob Marley, the chains he forged in life.
mike9a says
What is wrong with this man? If he likes it so much, why he does not simple convert to islam?!, ah yeah once you experience all the warmth, try to get back! So much in common?!wth!
mortimer says
Pope Pollyanna: see no jihad, hear no jihad, speak no jihad.
So far the most gullible leader in the 21st century.
Joe says
I think he is devious rather than gullible. The Church and Francis know all about Islam.
J D S says
THERE IS A WORD I WISH PEOPLE WOULD QUIT USING SO LOOSELY AND THAT WORD IS “CATHOLIC”.
WHEN SPEAKING OF ” HOLY CATHOLIC”CHURCH ONE IS SPEAKING OF UNIVERSAL OR “THE CHURCH” .
AS A WHOLE . THE CATHOLIC CHURCH SPOKEN OF HERE AND IN MOST TIMES AND PLACES …IS….. THE “ROMAN….. CATHOLIC…. CHURCH ..and one should use Roman Catholic when speaking of the Popes church.
CogitoErgoSum says
If Catholic means universal then whether it’s Roman or not it’s still universal. Perhaps you mean it should be called the Roman Church with the word Catholic removed?
dan christensen says
The Christian Grand Mufti Francis and the islamic pope agrees that “…These tragic realities are the consequence of a deviation from religious teachings.”
Atheism is in their opinion the cause of war, hateful attitudes, hostility and extremism, because atheists deviate seriously from all religious teachings.
The meaning of the agreement can only be understood as ‘hatespeech’ towards atheists.
Consequently Christianity and islam cannot be religions of ‘love’ and ‘peace’.
To condemn Atheists so brutish and excluding, is a blatant execration of honest people who survive happily without ghosts in the sky.
The two scheming popes should be ashamed of their inhuman and vicious hate towards the majority of mankind.
CogitoErgoSum says
I think perhaps you are reading more into the Pope’s words than what he meant. The belief that there is no god does not mean that a person loves war, is hateful, hostile or an extremist. I think the Pope’s words mean that sometimes deviating from certain religious beliefs can cause harmful things. I don’t believe he is attacking atheism as a cause of all things that are bad. However, his words do prove, in my opinion, that he has very little understanding of Islam.
somehistory says
“Then i saw another beast rising out of the earth This beast had two horns like a lamb, but spoke like a dragon. And this beast exercised all of the authority of the first beast and caused the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first wild beast, whose mortal wound had been healed (Revelation 13: 11-12)).”
The pope claims to serve Christ, even to “representing Christ,” Whom the Bible calls, “The Lamb.” But instead of teaching what Christ commanded, and instead of showing love to Christians, and instead of speaking the truth…this pope speaks up for islam, making claims of it being a “peaceful” religion that “respects”…”the elderly.”
He should be made to read publicly the account of the elderly lady in the UK being made to go out of her way to collect her money for which she worked, all because a moslim…a follower of this religion that “respects the elderly.” didn’t like what she said while waiting in line unnecessarily.
He should be made to read publicly from a list all of the rapes and murders of Christians by moslims who adhere to the so-called “religion of peace” that he pretends is, and claims to be, a respecter of persons, and for whom he has such a great admiration. moslims do not “respect life and family and common values.” islam is bloodthirsty, like satan the devil who created it.
He doesn’t speak for Christ, he speaks for satan the devil, the origianal serpent, and “dragon” that Christ hurled down to the earth (Revelation 12).
FYI says
“He’s got the Whole Wide World in His hands{clap},He’s got the Whole wide World in His hands”
Sorry:Too soon for rejoicing..?
Besides, the Judeo-Christian Biblical God is NOT the islamic-koranic god allah “the best of deceivers” k3:54
The JCB GOD ALREADY OWNS the World:but ik allah ,you notice, wants to take it over by force and violence.Christians believe God already owns the world.. and Israel{Joel 3}which is the ancestral land of the Jews;muslims don’t see that…
We may all be God’s{JCB} children as Charismatic folk might say, but we are certainly NOT all allah’s{ik} children,are we?
allah only cares for his precious muslims ;as long as they stick to the rituals and pretend not to know about God’s commandments.
allah CURSES the Jews,k2:65{” apes to be despised and hated”},the Christians k9:30,……and Hindus,Buddhists,Sikhs,Pagans,Atheists,gay people..so much HATE.
Al Walaa wal Baraa.
Who needs the 2nd Chief commandment{in Judaism and in Christianity but NOT in islam} and “love thy neighbor” when allah the “best of deceivers” teaches the COMPLETE OPPOSITE in k 5 V 51
“Oh ye who believe!Take not the Jews and Christians for friends.They are friends to one another.He among you who taketh them for friends is one of them”
Instead of “Let’s TRY to get along”,in islam it is “Let’s NOT get along with the infidels but let’s pretend as if we are”
By k5:51,a muslim who makes friends with a kafir is himself an infidel!
Who needs the 2nd chief commandment when allah himself doesn’t subscribe to it?
Common values?The koranic teachings do not even agree with God’s Exodus 20 commandments …and the 2 chief laws are completely missing in islam.
mark777888 says
Islam degrades women on multiple levels.
Islam is committed to the destruction of the non-Muslim world.
Islam endorses child brides as willed by God.
Pope Francis is more a leftist than a holy man.
He’s on the wrong side of most issues important to Christians.
gravenimage says
+1
R Russell says
Francis, preparing for the One World Religion. It must be going well. After al. he has some Protestants eating out of his hands saying the ‘protest’ is not longer necessary.
FYI says
“Life ,liberty and the pursuit of happiness”
Nope.Not in islam.
In islam it is..
Death,slavery and the pursuit of misery..
….and inflicting it on every other nation they invade..
gravenimage says
That sums it up, FYI.
mortimer says
ISLAM RESPECTS ‘LIFE’ ??? Since when?
– Egyptian Grand-Mufti, Dr. Sheikh Ali Gomaa, said on Jihad and killing harbis:
Question: “Is it permitted to kill an Israeli traveling outside the borders of his land?”
Sheikh Gum’a: “Yes, it is permitted to kill him, because he is a Harbi and the Harbi spreads corruption throughout the face of the earth.”
– Yusuf al-Qaradawi said: “It has been determined by Islamic law that the blood and property of people of Dar Al-Harb [the Domain of Disbelief where the battle for the domination of Islam should be waged] is not protected. Because they fight against and are hostile towards the Muslims, they annulled the protection of his blood and his property.”
ISLAM DOES NOT RESPECT THE LIFE OF ANYONE WHO RESISTS ISLAMIC SUPREMACISM. A kafir harbi may be killed and there is no blood money required.
commonsense says
Let me comment on just one of the current pope’s nonsensical and mendacious statements about Islam, the assertion that Islam is protective of honor for the elderly. If we look at the Sira, we find that Muhammed gave his followers permission to murder Abu Afak, a Jewish poet who was an adversary of Muhammed, and who was believed to be over a hundred years old. Muhammed was exultant upon learning that the poet was murdered in cold blood. Another account from the Sira that gives the lie to the pope’s assertion is that of the horrendous murder of one of the Elders of Khaybar, Kinana, who was set afire and then decapitated for his refusal to reveal to Muhammed and his cohorts the location of the treasure that belonged to this Jewish tribe. These atrocities against the elderly were committed with Muhammed’s enthusiastic permission, if not by him directly.
gravenimage says
Grimly true, commonsense. The “Prophet” also had an elderly woman, Um Kirfa, torn to death by camels after he raided her tribe.
commonsense says
Thanks, G.I… I probably read that years ago, and completely forgot.
gravenimage says
Yes–hideously ugly stuff.
Lydia Church says
Christianity and islam have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in common!
Their Jesus is a false Jesus because theirs contradicts the true Jesus of the Bible, and so on with every other concept. The only things they have in common are things like they both began in the middle east.
Yup, there goes frankie working on the one world religion again.
And yes, he is swooping up all the gullible from all over the spectrum; Catholics, Protestants, Eastern Orthodox, Evangelicals, some Jews, muslims, atheists, every flavor out there.
They are all joining into his one world religion.
All but those whose names are written in the Lamb’s Book of Life.
We will not worship the antichrist.
Lydia Church says
And ‘honoring the elderly’???
Like the migrants are doing in Europe?
They defy every item on frankie’s list!
But there he goes, paving the foundation of the one world religion’s ‘common ground.’
Things are picking up…
gravenimage says
True, Lydia. Muslims in Europe have raped elderly patients in care, and have beheaded an elderly woman in London in her garden, and an elderly priest who was giving mass to nuns.
Muslims just look at the elderly as easy victims.
Wellington says
Far more troubling than this foolish Pope (and he’s troubling enough) is this: Many Catholics, including cardinals and bishops he has appointed, let alone untold numbers of Catholic parish priests and laity worldwide (several of whom I have met and spoken with) think Francis is terrific, and this portends a far greater threat to the preservation of the West than just this Pope’s immensely harmful foolishness.
And then there are those Catholics who, while not particularly agreeing with Francis (e.g., my next door neighbor), seem to just focus on how singing “Silent Night” at Christmas Mass, or looking to the next Easter, is simply wonderful, beautiful, fuzzy and warm like, all the while missing the true harm that Francis and his ilk are doing to not only the Roman Catholic Church but to Western Civilization at large.
Pro-Francis Catholics, and there are a shitload of them, and ignorant, essentially apathetic, Catholics, and there are a shitload of them (like my next-door neighbor), are the true “problem.” Francis is just the tip of a religious iceberg which is actively participating in potentially sinking the greatest civilization of all time—Western Civilization. They are aided by secular leftists aplenty, RINOs (someone like Mitt Romney comes to mind) and, of course, Muslims in huge numbers who have total contempt for the liberty that the traditional West painstakingly established over not only centuries but millennia.
Not looking good. Not at all.
Stacy Girl says
A wise man, St. John Chrysostom, said, “The floor of Hell is paved with the skulls of bishops.” Clerical careerists have persecuted their own flocks forever. They lit the match to burn St. Joan of Arc at the stake. They are about titles and power which they will take to Hell.
Rufolino says
Excellent comment Wellington +1.
bobusa says
I hope they protect those values better than they have protected children.
gravenimage says
Pope: “Christian and Islamic worlds protect common values: life, family, religious sense, honor for the elderly”
………………………………
Uh…right. Only if you think that life is only for Muslims; that family values include child marriage, forced marriage, polygamy, wife beating, summary divorce for men only, and “Honor Killings”; and rates of elder abuse are off the charts in the Muslim world.
gravenimage says
Unsurprisingly, elder abuse of older women is especially rife.
dan christensen says
Replace ‘protect’ with ‘control’ and you are closer to the truth.
There is only 1 God, “common sense”, and its prophet is Charles Robert Darwin.
Who may rightly claim that god is one ‘person’, several or even hundreds?
Shamanism is the oldest religion in the world and without god(s).
WhoKnows says
What does the pope know about Christianity. Catholics have distorted it long time ago.
gravenimage says
Most Catholics have not praised or whitewashed the horrors of Islam.
Stacy Girl says
Indeed, gravenimage. As children we were taught what Islam teaches, and how it differed from our faith. The Sharia punishments are vividly recalled. But today we hear of the “3 Great Abrahamaic faiths.” What rot. Robert Spencer pens the truth but cannot make people read it.
gravenimage says
Glad you learned about the ugliness of Islam as a child, Stacy Girl.
So many did not–or, much worse, were fed a whitewashed version of that ugly creed.
Wellington says
But way too many Christians, gravenimage, I have talked to since 9/11 have either exculpated Islam to me or actually praised it, whether Catholic or non-Catholic (and not a few of such Christians have politely, but nonetheless essentially, told me to shut up when I have condemned {with a plethora of examples no less which seems to numb their minds} Mo’s warped creed). And then there are a ton of Christians who remain indefensibly ignorant and apathetic of Islam’s many iniquitous dictates to this very day. My God, they’re all over the place.
Frankly, I think a hell of a lot of Christians should be ashamed of themselves. Tons of them.
Conclusion: Christianity is dumbing down real fast like. Not good.
gravenimage says
All grimly true, Wellington. Sadly, there are a lot of Agnostics, Atheists, Jews, and people of other faiths in deep denial of the threat of Islam, as well.
WhoKnows says
I mean that somewhere in the catechism they were saying it was a religion of peace. Plus Vatican 2 made big changes in the Christian faith, not to mention that after 1054 they had weird saints.
Marigold says
Thankfully as he is not speaking from the ”chair” Catholics don’t have to take any notice of this nonsense.He has fallen headlong into the sin of pride by comparing himself to St. Francis who tried to CONVERT muslims to Christianity.He didn’t kow tow to them as this Pope is doing.
Save Europe says
This vile man is utterly dangerous!
He needs to be removed from his Papacy immediately.
It is THEM who want to persecute every Christian, Jew, Hindu, Buddhist, Sikh, agnostic and atheist on this Earth.
Marigold says
I looked up a bit of useful information about Pope Francis” namesake.
Five Franciscans were martyred in Morocco about the time St Francis went to see the shiek.They went into a mosque and renounced the koran and then said”We have come to preach faith in Jesus Christ to you so that you will renounce Mohammed, that wicked slave of the devil and obtain everlasting life like us” When St Francis was told he said ”Now I can truly say that I have Five Friars Minor”. St Francis told his Friars to always live and speak as Catholics or be expelled From the order.
This doesn’t sound as if St Francis had any illusions about Islam as Pope Francis appears to have.
Muslims who know their history look upon St Francis as a holy man but conveniently ignore all the other Christian saints.
gravenimage says
+1
Meturaf says
I cant believe that the Cardinals who voted this abominable man as Pope are sitting cozy with his actions. Do they not figure that he may order them to go to Muslim homes and scrub the toilets there to prove how loving a person he is. And they would have to do it. Surely he deserves the end accorded many Popes in history received for deviating from the will of the Vatican guardians.
mortimer says
Agree with Meturaf. Surely, many of the Curia must realize this is downright sappy, drooling nonsense.
The RCC has always been a home of ACADEMIC RIGOR, but this sappy pope has turned the church into a hippy love fest where brain power is forbidden.
mortimer says
Kum bye ya … kum bye ya !!!
infidel says
This pope is really a gone case!!! If U think he does something the heights of Dhimmi-hood on a certain day, the next day he outdoes himself.. VOW!!!!
theo says
Pope: “Christian and Islamic worlds protect common values: life, family, religious sense, honor for the elderly”
But what about jihad,child marriages, killing the unbelievers until the light of islam in the world is completed?
So what about islamic fascism.
Horseman says
This Pope must not ever watch the news.
andrew mckendrick says
Not all Catholics are taken in with pope Francis….try googling Church Militant…the Vortex
gravenimage says
True–there are many Catholics who know that this is rot.
Dr. Doom says
This Pope is a leftist idealogue unable to see the truth in front of him. Christianity has very little, if anything, in common with Islam. And Allah is not the God of Christianity.
DDrake says
The Koran says that it is blasphemy to say Jesus is the Son of God. Jesus being the Son of God and risen from the dead, is the foundation of Christianity. Islam and Christianity are therefore oil and water, and can never mix. This Pope is another Anti-Christ. A FALSE Shepherd. A serpent in a shepherds cloak that will be led off to the Abyss with the fallen angels he serves..
Cunamarra says
Islamic values are “necessary for the future of civilization.” This can only mean if you want the future of your civilization to parallel the future shared by the Egyptian, Byzantine, Persian, Mesopotamian, and Buddhist-Hindu civilizations after their fornication with Islam.
para59r says
This document is an agreement to talk. It is an agreement to talk about the cessation of hostilities.
If MSB is serious, he’s agreeing to walk away from the Koran taking many in Islam with him, while cherry picking the elements of the Koran he wants to keep. This document is a repudiation of the Koran or it is a huge lie bigger than climate change.
If MSB keeps this just to talk, with the Koran not being altered, not tossed into the dust bin of failed ideas and he’s not chased down and killed for being an apostate, the Hirja continues and Muslim fundamentalists go into a patient waiting game until such times as they control the numbers. The fundamentalists keep quiet until such a time as they wish and then take out the true Koran and enforce its demonic standard on all.
Meanwhile in the Western world the Pope is an idiot if he thinks everyone is going to give up their worldly goods, the rich especially, to embrace his communistic ideals.
So the way I see it is ignore the Pope but watch MSB and what happens in the Islamic world.
gravenimage says
Good luck with this…
gravenimage says
Also, if this were really about Saudi Arabia agreeing to jettison Islam, then why would the above falsely praise Islam? That makes no sense.
dickjohnson@priest.com says
Some truly evil and malicious comments about the Holy Father in this publication. I will warn my flock about this nasty website.