The Pope of Islam goes to the UAE and gets played for a fool by Muslim sharpies. My latest in FrontPage:
Pope Francis and the Grand Sheikh of al-Azhar, Ahmed el-Tayeb, have published “A Document On Human Fraternity for World Peace and Living Together” during the Pope’s trip to the United Arab Emirates. It’s as filled with falsehoods and wishful thinking as one would expect coming from a practiced deceiver such as el-Tayeb and someone so eager to be deceived as Pope Francis.
Here’s one of its egregiously false statements:
Terrorism is deplorable and threatens the security of people, be they in the East or the West, the North or the South, and disseminates panic, terror and pessimism, but this is not due to religion, even when terrorists instrumentalize it. It is due, rather, to an accumulation of incorrect interpretations of religious texts and to policies linked to hunger, poverty, injustice, oppression and pride. This is why it is so necessary to stop supporting terrorist movements fuelled by financing, the provision of weapons and strategy, and by attempts to justify these movements even using the media. All these must be regarded as international crimes that threaten security and world peace. Such terrorism must be condemned in all its forms and expressions…
Terrorism is due to “an accumulation of incorrect interpretations of religious texts and to policies linked to hunger, poverty, injustice, oppression and pride.”
So are the authoritative sources in Sunni Islam, the schools of Sunni jurisprudence (madhahib), all incorrect in their interpretations of the Qur’an and Sunnah? Here is what they say about jihad warfare against non-Muslims:
Shafi’i school: A Shafi’i manual of Islamic law that was certified in 1991 by the clerics at Al-Azhar University, one of the leading authorities in the Islamic world, as a reliable guide to Sunni orthodoxy, stipulates about jihad that “the caliph makes war upon Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians…until they become Muslim or pay the non-Muslim poll tax.” It adds a comment by Sheikh Nuh Ali Salman, a Jordanian expert on Islamic jurisprudence: the caliph wages this war only “provided that he has first invited [Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians] to enter Islam in faith and practice, and if they will not, then invited them to enter the social order of Islam by paying the non-Muslim poll tax (jizya)…while remaining in their ancestral religions.” (‘Umdat al-Salik, o9.8).
Of course, there is no caliph today, and hence the oft-repeated claim that Osama et al are waging jihad illegitimately, as no state authority has authorized their jihad. But they explain their actions in terms of defensive jihad, which needs no state authority to call it, and becomes “obligatory for everyone” (‘Umdat al-Salik, o9.3) if a Muslim land is attacked. The end of the defensive jihad, however, is not peaceful coexistence with non-Muslims as equals: ‘Umdat al-Salik specifies that the warfare against non-Muslims must continue until “the final descent of Jesus.” After that, “nothing but Islam will be accepted from them, for taking the poll tax is only effective until Jesus’ descent” (o9.8).
Hanafi school: A Hanafi manual of Islamic law repeats the same injunctions. It insists that people must be called to embrace Islam before being fought, “because the Prophet so instructed his commanders, directing them to call the infidels to the faith.” It emphasizes that jihad must not be waged for economic gain, but solely for religious reasons: from the call to Islam “the people will hence perceive that they are attacked for the sake of religion, and not for the sake of taking their property, or making slaves of their children, and on this consideration it is possible that they may be induced to agree to the call, in order to save themselves from the troubles of war.”
However, “if the infidels, upon receiving the call, neither consent to it nor agree to pay capitation tax [jizya], it is then incumbent on the Muslims to call upon God for assistance, and to make war upon them, because God is the assistant of those who serve Him, and the destroyer of His enemies, the infidels, and it is necessary to implore His aid upon every occasion; the Prophet, moreover, commands us so to do.” (Al-Hidayah, II.140)
Maliki school: Ibn Khaldun (1332-1406), a pioneering historian and philosopher, was also a Maliki legal theorist. In his renowned Muqaddimah, the first work of historical theory, he notes that “in the Muslim community, the holy war is a religious duty, because of the universalism of the Muslim mission and (the obligation to) convert everybody to Islam either by persuasion or by force.” In Islam, the person in charge of religious affairs is concerned with “power politics,” because Islam is “under obligation to gain power over other nations.”
Hanbali school: The great medieval theorist of what is commonly known today as radical or fundamentalist Islam, Ibn Taymiyya (Taqi al-Din Ahmad Ibn Taymiyya, 1263-1328), was a Hanbali jurist. He directed that “since lawful warfare is essentially jihad and since its aim is that the religion is God’s entirely and God’s word is uppermost, therefore according to all Muslims, those who stand in the way of this aim must be fought.”
This is also taught by modern-day scholars of Islam. Majid Khadduri was an Iraqi scholar of Islamic law of international renown. In his book War and Peace in the Law of Islam, which was published in 1955 and remains one of the most lucid and illuminating works on the subject, Khadduri says this about jihad:
The state which is regarded as the instrument for universalizing a certain religion must perforce be an ever expanding state. The Islamic state, whose principal function was to put God’s law into practice, sought to establish Islam as the dominant reigning ideology over the entire world….The jihad was therefore employed as an instrument for both the universalization of religion and the establishment of an imperial world state. (P. 51)
Imran Ahsan Khan Nyazee, Assistant Professor on the Faculty of Shari’ah and Law of the International Islamic University in Islamabad. In his 1994 book The Methodology of Ijtihad, he quotes the twelfth century Maliki jurist Ibn Rushd: “Muslim jurists agreed that the purpose of fighting with the People of the Book…is one of two things: it is either their conversion to Islam or the payment of jizyah.” Nyazee concludes: “This leaves no doubt that the primary goal of the Muslim community, in the eyes of its jurists, is to spread the word of Allah through jihad, and the option of poll-tax [jizya] is to be exercised only after subjugation” of non-Muslims.
How did someone with incorrect interpretations of religious texts become a professor on the Faculty of Shari’ah and Law at International Islamic University?
Anyway, as for the idea that poverty causes terrorism, it’s just a call for Western nations to write more checks to governments of Muslim countries. It’s also demonstrably false. The New York Times reported that “not long after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001…Alan B. Krueger, the Princeton economist, tested the widespread assumption that poverty was a key factor in the making of a terrorist. Mr. Krueger’s analysis of economic figures, polls, and data on suicide bombers and hate groups found no link between economic distress and terrorism.”
CNS News noted in September 2013 that “according to a Rand Corporation report on counterterrorism, prepared for the Office of the Secretary of Defense in 2009, ‘Terrorists are not particularly impoverished, uneducated, or afflicted by mental disease. Demographically, their most important characteristic is normalcy (within their environment). Terrorist leaders actually tend to come from relatively privileged backgrounds.’ One of the authors of the RAND report, Darcy Noricks, also found that according to a number of academic studies, ‘Terrorists turn out to be more rather than less educated than the general population.’”
Yet the analysis that poverty causes terrorism has been applied and reapplied and reapplied again. And now here is the Pope signing on to this falsehood.
Here is another of the statements from the Pope/Tayeb document – one that raises questions about el-Tayeb’s sincerity:
Freedom is a right of every person: each individual enjoys the freedom of belief, thought, expression and action. The pluralism and the diversity of religions, colour, sex, race and language are willed by God in His wisdom, through which He created human beings. This divine wisdom is the source from which the right to freedom of belief and the freedom to be different derives. Therefore, the fact that people are forced to adhere to a certain religion or culture must be rejected, as too the imposition of a cultural way of life that others do not accept…
Great. But el-Tayeb said this as recently as 2016:
Contemporary apostasy presents itself in the guise of crimes, assaults, and grand treason, so we deal with it now as a crime that must be opposed and punished….Those learned in Islamic law and the imams of the four schools of jurisprudence consider apostasy a crime and agree that the apostate must either renounce his apostasy or else be killed.
Has el-Tayeb renounced this view? Doubtful, since it is standard Islam. The death penalty for apostasy is part of Islamic law. It’s based on the Qur’an: “They wish you would disbelieve as they disbelieved so you would be alike. So do not take from among them allies until they emigrate for the cause of Allah. But if they turn away, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them and take not from among them any ally or helper.” (Qur’an 4:89)
A hadith depicts Muhammad saying: “Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him” (Bukhari 9.84.57). The death penalty for apostasy is part of Islamic law according to all the schools of Islamic jurisprudence.
This is still the position of all the schools of Islamic jurisprudence, both Sunni and Shi’ite. Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi, the most renowned and prominent Muslim cleric in the world, has stated: “The Muslim jurists are unanimous that apostates must be punished, yet they differ as to determining the kind of punishment to be inflicted upon them. The majority of them, including the four main schools of jurisprudence (Hanafi, Maliki, Shafi’i, and Hanbali) as well as the other four schools of jurisprudence (the four Shiite schools of Az-Zaidiyyah, Al-Ithna-‘ashriyyah, Al-Ja’fariyyah, and Az-Zaheriyyah) agree that apostates must be executed.”
Qaradawi also once famously said: “If they had gotten rid of the apostasy punishment, Islam wouldn’t exist today.”
So has el-Tayeb departed from Islamic orthodoxy, or is he deceiving Pope Francis and trying to deceive the world?
The Pope is certainly thoroughly deceived. Back in the Vatican from the UAE, he told crowds: “Despite the diversity of cultures and traditions, the Christian and Islamic worlds appreciate and protect common values: life, family, religious sense, honor for the elderly, the education of the young, and others as well.”
Life? Yes, unless you’re not Muslim. In Islamic law, Muslim lives are explicitly worth more than those of non-Muslims. The Shafi’i Sharia manual Reliance of the Traveller dictates: “The indemnity for the death or injury of a woman is one-half the indemnity paid for a man. The indemnity paid for a Jew or Christian is one-third the indemnity paid for a Muslim. The indemnity paid for a Zoroastrian is one-fifteenth that of a Muslim.” (o4.9) Sikhs rank even lower, as they are not People of the Book.
The Shafi’i madhhab is not the only school of Islamic law that teaches this. The Iranian Shi’ite Sufi Sheikh Sultanhussein Tabandeh explains: “Thus if [a] Muslim commits adultery his punishment is 100 lashes, the shaving of his head, and one year of banishment. But if the man is not a Muslim and commits adultery with a Muslim woman his penalty is execution…Similarly if a Muslim deliberately murders another Muslim he falls under the law of retaliation and must by law be put to death by the next of kin. But if a non-Muslim who dies at the hand of a Muslim has by lifelong habit been a non-Muslim, the penalty of death is not valid. Instead the Muslim murderer must pay a fine and be punished with the lash….Since Islam regards non-Muslims as on a lower level of belief and conviction, if a Muslim kills a non-Muslim…then his punishment must not be the retaliatory death, since the faith and conviction he possesses is loftier than that of the man slain…Again, the penalties of a non-Muslim guilty of fornication with a Muslim woman are augmented because, in addition to the crime against morality, social duty and religion, he has committed sacrilege, in that he has disgraced a Muslim and thereby cast scorn upon the Muslims in general, and so must be executed….Islam and its peoples must be above the infidels, and never permit non-Muslims to acquire lordship over them.”
Family? Sure: a husband and his wife and his wife and his wife and his wife. Polygamy dehumanizes women. The Qur’an also calls for the beating of disobedient women (4:34), and Islam devalues women in numerous other ways.
The Pope has been played for a fool by deceptive sharpies including, but not limited to, Ahmed el-Tayeb.
“Leave them; they are blind guides. And if a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit.” (Matthew 15:14)
Walter Sieruk says
Some of the total falsehoods and lying Islamic propagandists, that pope Francis, takes part in is the false claim that the god of Islam is the same god as the God of the Bible
For the God of the Bible is not really Allah the god of Islam. To explain, through the passing of time it has become widely accepted that the word “Allah” is just the Arabic word for God. This started when truth compromising Bible “translators” substituted the word Allah where the word God should have had been uses in the Arabic translation of the Bible. Furthermore, in the glossary in the book ASSASSINS! By Dr. Haha Lung it defines Allah as the “Pre-Islamic Lunar god : the god of Islam. “ Likewise, in the book entitled INSIDE ISLAM by a former Muslim who is now a Christian, Reza F. Safa on pages 22, 23 it reads “In pre-Islamic times both Allah –worship and Baal-worship involved the worship of the sun, the moon and the stars which h defines them as astral religions. [Which are condemned in the Bible, Second Kings 23:5] The crescent moon, which was the symbol of moon worship, is also the symbol of Islam.” In conclusion the Islamic god, Allah, is not the God of the Bible.
The words in brackets are my own. In addition other some other books that expose this little known truths are WHO IS THIS ALLAH ? by G..J.O.. Moshay also UNVEILING ISLAM by Ergun Mehmet Caner and Emir Fethi Caner and THE ISLAMIC INVASION by Robert Morey . There is also PHILISTINE by Ramon Bennett and ANSWERING JIHAD by Mabeel Qureshi
Ali Toure says
I concord with you my brother. Many Muslims do not realize that Allah is a moon god. A pagan god.
J D S says
Those who see through Islam can see the paganism in Islam and many learned people have written of this.
If one really studies their book of hate they can see where muhammad. (If he ever actually existed) stole his sayings, writings? ???(He was ILLITERATE) from the Holy Bible and paganism and since he could not read or write who knows how much of his actual message was written down…Memorizers were used many times for his ravings when he went into his trance supposedly hearing an angel speak to him…maybe Satan’s angel but surely NOT an angel from God.
There is more proof that muhammad was not a prophet if God…..The last book of the new Testament was written by John the Revelator, God’s final prophet…John said it all so why would God need another prophet when He revealed it all through John.
Islam is a mean religion with death and destruction found at every turn of the page of the koran. Much of this can be found in the Old Mosaic Covenant Testament. One will find many instances where God merged out death and destruction…me major instance was THE FLOOD and there are many more…….but….and there must always be a ….but…Jesus brought, with his blood, a new Covenant. FIND ANY PLACE in the NEW JESUS COVENANT TESTAMENT where Jesus tells to kill anyone. Not so in the Muslim muhammad covenant.
Lorraine E Blazich says
In Hal Lindsey’s book “The Everlasting Hatred” on pages 91 and 92 “The hierarchy of gods” “there were five who were most important in their hierarchy. There were Uzza, Allat, Manat, Hubal and Allah. The first three were female…. On the other hand, Hubal was a male held to be the Moon deity. He is believed to have originated in Babylon. It is Hubal that is represented in the Hilal, Islam’s symbol of the Crescent Moon. The star symbol is believed to represent Uzza, the Morning Star goddess. Hubal was also believed to be the guardian of the Ka’ahah. The fifth and highest of all deities was called Allah. He was worshipped as the supreme creator as well as the “father” of the tritheistic female goddesses.”
On pages 96 and 97 the history of Mohammad which includes “Mohammad’s mother had visions and religious experiences … and was involved in what we call today the occult arts and it this basic orientation is thought by some scholars to have been inherited by her son.” “Mohammid was enrusted to a Bedouin woman who reported that he experienced numerous fits, which caused Halima to think he was demon-possessed. But after Mohammad experienced subsequent epileptic fits and spirit visitations Halima returned him to his mother. According to Halima, Mohammad experienced the first of his visitations which he was walking in a field with one on Halima’s sons. He suddenly fell down shouting that two men in white garments were splitting open his belly searching for something. According to Mohammad’s own testimony, he experienced these sorts of visitations at various times for the rest of his life.”
The muslim religion/form of government is not something which I want to get involved with.
Bill says
Using the vernacular of capitalist finance, a language the Jorge Mario Bergoglio detests, I offer the following observation. I saw the purpose of his trip there as the equivalent of merger negotiations. When they fail ,as they inevitably must, Islam will resort to the hostile takeover.
gravenimage says
+1
somehistory says
Bill,
Absolutely. Won’t take long either.
mortimer says
The Grand Imam of Al Azhar wants a TEMPORARY TREATY with the pope In order to gain certain secret concessions. We may learn about these secret concessions later.
Roland says
@Mortimer, Spot-on!
Anjuli Pandavar says
UN – tick; Vatican – tick; Canada – tick (don’t get any ideas now!); EU – tick? (do your job!); US – untick (go low-key for now); Israel – @!%^&*!; free people (what is this?!);
Gea says
Pope Francis is atrator of Christianity and Western civilization who should be forced to resign IMMEDIATELY. He was mum what Muslims keep murdering Christians just as he was silent when Argentinian fascist killed 30,000 people Perhaps this JOrge dude was educated by a neighborhood Nazis, as they fled to Argentina with the help of Pope in Rome in 1945-1950ies…
Maybe this Pope is a secret Muslim ;-)?!
Genba says
‘ Pope Francis and the Grand Sheikh of al-Azhar, Ahmed el-Tayeb, have published “A Document On Human Fraternity for World Peace and Living Together” ‘
ROFL! Didn’t know one could put so many empty words together!
This just reminded me of something similar:
Wind of peace is blowing in Africa – UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres
http://www.africanews.com/2019/02/09/wind-of-peace-is-blowing-in-africa-un-secretary-general-antonio-guterres/
Mauritania, Mali, Nigeria, Niger, Cameroon, Burkina Faso, Sudan, South Sudan, Egypt, CAR, Somalia, Kenia, Tanzania, DRC, Mozambique, South Africa … All of them countries with numerous political, ethnic and religious conflicts (the latter thanks to the “religion of peace”), and these clowns claim that there are promising signs of peace, and that signing papers will lead us to a world of “peace, fraternity and living together” …
” They treated my people’s wound superficially, telling them, ‘Peace, peace,’ but there is no peace. ”
Jeremiah 6:14
Barbara says
Unfortunately those empty words will have the brainless following it. Then the truth of Islam will happen. It will then be to late to stop. It will take centuries to reverse. The problem is there will be no crusades to stop the advance of this murderous cult.
revereridesagain says
The original ones didn’t do that either. The manipulators who write these lies know that very few people will consult the original Islamic sources to discover that they are, indeed, lying about what it taught in Islam. That’s why I send the rare person I encounter who actually wants to know the truth about it right here to Jihad Watch. (They certainly aren’t going to shell out for “Reliance of the Traveller” on their own.)
mortimer says
The first DHIMMI pope.
‘POPE DHIMMI the FIRST’.
FYI says
Surely it is time Jorge and Ahmed cemented their relationship and…got married:they make a nice couple despite being such such odd bedfellows.
Surely an engagement party notice will appear soon..
“Jorge and Ahmed are pleased to announce their forthcoming marriage of convenience,made in Hell.
No sox required:compulsory foot washing service”
Do you Jorge embrace satan?Yes i do
And do you Ahmed embrace satan?yes i do
And do you Ahmed embrace this idiotic kafir as your partner in falsehood?Yes!
Then you are pronounced as two peas of an islamic pod.
Jorge,you may kiss your “bride”…mwah..
boakai ngombu says
FYI. missing: is there anyone here who thinks this marriage should not proceed. speak up now, or forever hold your peace. … crickets ….
FYI says
Imagine if somehow they managed to have 4 offspring..4 sons..
Heresy,Apostasy,Jihad and al walaa wal baraa
Ed Lee says
“The Pope of Islam goes to the UAE and gets played for a fool by Muslim sharpies.” WRONG! This is willful collaboration. The Pope is a quisling.
Terry Gain says
I asked throughout Obama’s Presidency whether he was naive or evil. I think he answered my question with the Iran deal. I am now asking the same question regarding the Pope. It is hard to believe he could be this naive. Yesterday, on Fox News Special Report, Matthew Continetti, who is not a stupid or evil man, declared the Pope as his winner of the week. I couldn’t believe it.
We live in an absurd world. It is a period of marvellous technological advancement, but we seem to be losing our ability to think clearly.
Apostle53 says
The Pope is a dope. He has made a pact with Satan.
somehistory says
The pope fits the Bible’s description of the “false prophet” with the “head of a lamb” that speaks “like a dragon.” He pretends to be Christian and works for satan.
Were these two evil creatures standing any where near a high rooftop? Guess not.
The photo…and the act it represents …is truly disgusting. Maggots were gagging all over the place. All over the world.
Rufolino says
Bergoglio has an unattractive countenance. As for the other creature, he is frankly repulsive.
gravenimage says
Robert Spencer in FrontPage: The Grand Sheikh Francis of al-Vatican
………………….
High profile useful idiot.
Wellington says
Yes indeed, gravenimage. The Pope should not be a useful idiot (or, even worse, actually complicit with evil). But this one sure is.
gravenimage says
The Pope *should* be a beacon of morality, standing up for Christians and other victims of Islam, as Pope John Paul II stood up against Communism. That he is not is utterly appalling.
Terry Gain says
This is a very difficult time for us Catholics. Our Pope is either a moron or a Muslim. See my link to Raymond Ibrahim’s article below. it is scarcely believable that the Pope is not familiar with the history recounted by Ibrahim.
gravenimage says
Terry, good to see Catholics like you keeping the faith. This too shall pass.
Max says
This pope is now a fully converted Muslim and has transformed this church into a political party that honours socialism far more than God. This is the guy that was delighted to be given a crucifix showing Christ attached to a hammer and sickle. The Churches will be empty by the time this Muslim disappears.
Terry Gain says
Raymond Ibrahim has an article on American Thinker which is as succinct and comprehensive An article on the history of the Islamic conquest of Christianity as any I have ever seen. I highly recommend it. It’s tragic that no western leaders, except for the Visedrad, are familiar with this history,
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/02/islam_the_wests_most_formidable_and_persistent_enemy.html
gravenimage says
Thanks for that link, Terry.
paul lloyd says
The man of sin is coming soon and he is going to deceive the whole world and rule it. The Bible teaches that BY PEACE HE SHALL DESTROY MANY (ref. Dan 8:25). People are going to like him, wonder at him, worship him, follow him–including church hypocrites and every unbeliever.
Martin says
ROME REPORTS – Gallup rates Pope Francis as the world’s best leader
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueFkU__Fto0
Terry Gain says
Martin, are you informing us, trolling us, or trying to depress us?
Manuek 2 Paleologus says
I don’t give a damn on this ‘fake news’ gallop. He is the most evil and schmuk Pontiff. I pray God to be merciful to this betrayer of the Roman Catholic Church. Benedict XVI should never ‘resign’. He was forced to resign or he got tired of the Vatican liberal mafia in curia. He is the real Pope.
gravenimage says
Martin, that’s depressing.
Lydia Church says
Rev. 13.
The whole world will flock to the antichrist. Obviously they will think he is ‘the world’s best leader.’
But… he is also the antichrist. So obviously as well…. he is not even a good leader of a one-horse town. Whether or not you see it about him yet… the fact remains that just because the whole world thinks something… does not make it true or right. In fact, the most likely analysis is that it is wrong. How do we know this? Because Jesus told us so. Jesus told us that broad is the road that leads to destruction and narrow is the road that leads to eternal life in heaven and FEW are they that find it. The right way lies with a few, not with the many. Just make sure it’s the right few and read your Bible, King James Version (new or old) is best.
somehistory says
Re: the video…
You just gotta love…not!…the way he pushes on the poor guy’s head to make him kneel.
Can’t recall any Scripture where Jesus did that or told his disciples or apostles to do so.
It takes arrogance and way too much vanity, way too much pride in self to demand such as this. He’s nauseating.
Keys says
The photo reminds me of Judas’ kiss of betrayal.
Maybe the Grand Sheik will now hang himself from a Gharqad tree since Jesus was a Jew.
Sahih Muslim Book 041, Number 6985:
“Abu Huraira reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.”
Terry Gain says
We need an upvote capabilty..
Lydia Church says
Betrayal it is indeed.
tim gallagher says
A couple of days back, the report on 7th February, here at Jihad Watch, there was the article about the Pope and the Muslim leader saying Christianity and Islam stood for “life, family, religious belief”, etc. I wanted to comment on that. I could not believe that the Pope was putting forward the idea that Islam resembles Christianity in any way whatsoever. I think it is obvious that Christianity and Islam are polar opposites. This Pope seems to have the idea that people who are non-believers in a religion are the biggest problem this world faces. Therefore, he seems to think that Muslims (because they believe in a god- a hideous concept of god I’d say, a Satanic, barbaric version of what god is) are the brothers and sisters of Christians. Nothing could be further from the truth. So what if Muslims are religious. Their god says they should murder non-Muslims, and it’s OK to marry off young girls, and to kill homosexuals, and so on. Islam’s version of god is hideous. I can’t comprehend how this Pope sees some similarity between Islam and Christianity. And he surely has plenty of people around him to enlighten him and advise him against making such foolish and dangerous statements. What the hell is going on? The Pope should be able to see the evil that is in Islam and he should call it out for what it is. I’ll never understand how this Pope doesn’t seem to see how much evil there is in Islam and I’ll never understand how he thinks there are some grounds for getting along with islam. How are Christians supposed to get along with a religion that calls on its followers to kill non-Muslims wherever they find them?
Terry Gain says
How are Christians supposed to respect a Pope who has submitted to the eternal enemy of all non-Muslim civilizations?
tim gallagher says
I agree with you, Terry. I have no respect for this Pope when it comes to his attitude towards islam. Maybe on some other subjects I might find something that this Pope says that I agree with, although I doubt it. A person like Robert Spencer, ie someone who has bothered to study Islam and who sees and tells the truth about Islam’s nature, is the type of Christian I’ll listen to on the subject of Islam. When it comes to Islam, this Pope just seems like a complete ignoramus. And, of course, you’re right in saying that Islam is the eternal enemy of everything that is not Islamic. Islam has always made that perfectly clear.
Roland says
“And he surely has plenty of people around him to enlighten him and advise him against making such foolish and dangerous statements. What the hell is going on?”
Good question, Tim. Something has gone wrong with the Church, not just one man. Hard to fathom.
tim gallagher says
Roland, I certainly agree that something has gone wrong with the Church, or at least with the group of people who are in leadership positions, on this issue of Islam. I get the feeling that, maybe, this Pope and others around him, think that if they are really nice towards Islam, Islam will become more mellow and won’t be vicious and violent towards Christians and others. I believe this is a ridiculous fantasy. The Pope and other leaders in the Catholic Church should call evil what it is. Anyway, I follow my conscience and believe that this Pope and his advisors are wrong on this issue.
gravenimage says
Tim, here’s a link to that story you were interested in:
“Christian and Islamic worlds protect common values: life, family, religious sense, honor for the elderly”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2019/02/pope-christian-and-islamic-worlds-protect-common-values-life-family-religious-sense-honor-for-the-elderly
tim gallagher says
Thanks, gravenimage. Isn’t it ridiculous for the Pope and his advisors to find that Islam and Christianity have similar values. As I said, Islam is the polar opposite, the antithesis of Christianity and its values as far as I can see. I mean,look at that list: “life”, Islam calls for the murder of all non-Muslims if they don’t become Muslims. “family” Islam forces its daughters into arranged marriages while they are still children and has honour killings if they disobey in any way. “religious life”. Islam’s ferocious idea of god is definitely the complete opposite of the Christian idea of God. “Honour for the elderly”. I have no idea what that means when it comes to islam. Certainly, any non-Muslim aged person gets zero honour from Islam. As I said above, I’m wondering whether this Pope thinks if he’s nice to Islam then Muslims will change and become nice to non-Muslims. And pigs might fly.
gravenimage says
+1
Manuel 2 Paleologus says
This pope is the worst pope in the entire history of the Universal Church. To seek the approval of islam after 14 centuries of onslaught of Christians is more than idiotic, is a betrayal of the Church. This pope is committing blasphemy and contribute to showing that islam is the same as christianity. He is a pontifical Judah and many naives support him. He is handing the sword to islam to behead the Church.
Having a jesuit as pope is a disaster for the Western Church. He never raised his hands to defend a persecuted Christian. He even sponsored muslim immigrants in place of christians.
Antony1977 says
I guess Robert didn’t cover this jihadist episode of a swedish journalist being arrested after having planted a bomb: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_B4qLpur2E All Sweden mainstream media keep silence and this topic is prohibited on Facebook. Robert Spencer should include this news on his newslist.
gravenimage says
Anthony, you can send story suggestions to Robert Spencer using the “Contact Us” box at the right-hand side of the page. He often takes story suggestions from JW readers.
mortimer says
Someday we will discover the purpose of this temporary treaty.
If the Grand Imam of Al Azhar can make it look the pope has submitted to him, then Muslims will consider all Christians as their dhimmis.
Pope Dhimmi … I mean … Pope Francis doesn’t get that.
Pieter van der Jagt says
Wen will come the time that the Katholic Christians see that the Vatican is a big circus.
Clemens says
Pope has disregarded scripture and bowing to Islam. I guess he never read “John’s” written word:
For many deceivers have gone out into the world who do not confess Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist. 8 Look to yourselves, that we do not lose those things we worked for, but that we may receive a full reward.
9 Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son.
10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house nor greet him; 11 for he who greets him shares in his evil deeds.
2 John 7-11
Someone should tell him in case he cares.
No Muzzies Here says
What a nice kiss! Such affection! Coming from the man who put on a sour face when he met with Trump.
Trump would protect the world and the Pope, yet the Pope scorns him.
The Sheikh represents a movement that would replace the Vatican, and yet he kisses him affectionately.
Im4truth4all says
I personally believe Pope Francis is a private heretic but by his current statement that God willed the different religions he may have crossed the line. This is wrong and morally reprehensible. God has permitted the different religions becauseman has free will. I will wait and read the opinions of Cardinal Burke, Bishop Atanasius Schneider and other Orthodox Catholic leaders.
There are, in my opinion, two Catholic Churches in existence now. The true Catholic Church and the false Catholic Church. I believe the following quotes are appropriate considering the aforementioned statements by the Pope:
“We shall find out at the day of judgment that the greater number of Christians who are lost were damned because they did not know their own religion.” – St. Jean-Marie Vianney
“A priest goes to Heaven or a priest goes to Hell with a thousand people behind.” – St. Jean-Marie Vianney
St. Athanasius who was excommunicated by Pope Liberius became the 1st Doctor of the Catholic Church and who was known as the Father of Orthodoxy stated “The floor of hell is paved with the skulls of Bishops.”
Lydia Church says
pope francis is a walking contradiction.
Of course God did not will different religions! He is not the author of contradiction! His ONE religion is Christianity, found in the Bible, and what contradicts is false. Period.
And unless one is a Christian, one is an unbeliever and not a ‘brother’ or a ‘sister’ at all. People in other religions are believers of that religion, but they are not believers according to God because they don’t submit to His religion.
But when the muslims come after Christians according to their satanic killing verses to martyr us, pope francis will give his fullest blessings, I can assure you!
By the way, has anyone ever researched what is going on at the Parliament of the World’s Religions?
It is also laying the foundation for the one world religion under antichrist. They met in Utah in 2015 and again recently. They love everyone else but hate Biblical Christians. And pope francis is one of their mascots. At the last conference they even had a rug with pictures on it and one of them was of a beheaded judge Kavanaugh… if that will help give you a clue as to their attitudes and plans for those even perceived to be conservatives or Christians in any way at all. It is chilling. Google for details.
Lydia Church says
And yes, that is correct, freewill is part of the reason why. It started in the Garden of Eden. The devil began his deceptions early. Every religion that is not Biblical Christianity is of lucifer the devil. Only he appears as an angel of light, as his servants do who deceive.
kenneth kelly says
It is to be regretted that Robert feels obliged to use such polemical and inaccurate descriptions of Pope Francis as “The Pope of Islam”. That the Pope’s policy of the outstretched hand towards the Muslim world is both naive and at times unhelpful towards the plight of Christians and other minority religious groups can hardly be doubted. The present Pope also shows lack of awareness of the incompatibilities of Islam with human rights, secularism, freedom and equality and the problems arising from large scale immigration into Europe. Pope Francis also appears to be unaware of the history of of Muslim conquests and the societal problems posed to Europe by political Islam. He may be accused of many things,but he is not the “Pope of Islam”. May I suggest we all in future try and be a bit more civil in our comments.
gravenimage says
kenneth, I’m afraid that whitewashing Islam goes *way* beyond a “policy of the outstretched hand towards the Muslim world”. Why should this pontiff have to appease the horrors of Islam?
somehistory says
Rufolino ,
++3
James Snapp Jr says
Well, I’ll just come out and say it, after looking over the text of this document:
Francis is either the biggest quisling on the planet, or else he does not know what he is doing. Neither possibility is aceptable.
It’s not my circus, but if I had any clout in the Roman Catholic hierarchy, I would be looking into ways to remove this Imam Francis from the office that he has so flagrantly and habitually abused.
somehistory says
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/13706/pope-francis-ahmed-al-tayeb-document
Mr. Ibrahim makes some very interesting and informative points at Gatestone.
gravenimage says
Thanks for that link, Somehistory.