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U.S. Catholic-Muslim Dialogue top dog applauds deceptive “living together” document signed by Pope and Grand Sheikh

Feb 12, 2019 8:00 am By Robert Spencer

The document is full of deceptions and deflections, but Cupich and Bambera would dismiss such concerns as “Islamophobic.” It has become a superdogma in the Catholic Church: if you don’t believe that Islam is a Religion of Peace, you will be ruthlessly harassed and silenced by the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops and the hierarchy elsewhere as well. The bishops of the Catholic Church are much more concerned that you believe that Islam is a religion of peace than that you believe in, say, the Nicene Creed.

“Leave them; they are blind guides. And if a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit.” (Matthew 15:14)

“U.S. Catholic officials welcome Catholic-Muslim document signed by pope,” Catholic News Service, February 8, 2019:

WASHINGTON, D.C. – The declaration signed by Pope Francis and Sheik Ahmad el-Tayeb, the grand imam of al-Azhar, during the pope’s trip to the United Arab Emirates “is a clarion call for robust dialogue that leads to peace,” said the Catholic chairman of the National Catholic-Muslim Dialogue and the chairman of the U.S. bishops’ Committee on Ecumenical and Interreligious Affairs.

“In our increasingly hostile world in which violence too often predominates between Christians and Muslims – violence that has led to tragic consequences for the most vulnerable humans – we welcome with great joy this historic joint statement on human fraternity,” said Cardinal Blase J. Cupich of Chicago and Bishop Joseph C. Bambera of Scranton, Pennsylvania.

Pope Francis and Sheik el-Tayeb, a leading religious authority for many Sunni Muslims around the world, signed “A Document on Human Fraternity for World Peace and Living Together” Feb. 4 in Abu Dhabi….

But the centerpiece of the declaration was a call on Christians and Muslims to recognize and respect one another and work together for the good of humanity.

Commenting on the document Feb. 8, Cupich and Bambera urged “all people of goodwill, especially leaders of nations and religious groups,” to read and study the declaration “in the hope that it might serve as a resource to overcome division through a renewed commitment to dialogue and the establishment of goodwill.”

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  1. Michael Copeland says

    Feb 12, 2019 at 8:11 am

    “It is unbelief (kufr) to hold that the remnant cults now bearing the names of formerly valid religions such as “Christianity” and “Judaism” are acceptable to Allah….”
    Manual of Islamic Law, “Reliance of the Traveller”, w4.

    “Reliance of the Traveller” is certified as reliable by Al-Azhar, as in Sheik Ahmad el-Tayeb, the grand imam of al-Azhar, above.

    • Jon Sobieski says

      Feb 12, 2019 at 10:47 am

      Leave them; they are blind guides. And if a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit.” (Matthew 15:14)

      Isn’t it sad that so many sheep are being led to slaughter by these men of god. They are not men of god. They are fools with an audience.

      • FYI says

        Feb 12, 2019 at 6:22 pm

        “How terrible for the world that that there are things that make people lose their faith.Such things will always happen-but how terrible for the one who causes them!”
        Matthew 18 v 7

        How terrible for the men who run the Catholic Church,from francis down,who have caused such a massive loss of faith.

        “If anyone should cause one of these little ones to lose his faith in me,it would be better for him to have a large millstone tied around his neck and be drowned in the deep sea”
        Matthew 18 v 6

        How terrible for this “pope” and these Church Men:the warnings from Jesus Christ are pretty clear.They have scattered the flock,subverted Catholicism and caused many to leave the faith.It would be better for them if they were “drowned in the deep sea”:That’s not something easily forgiven for these church men!

        {There is a little known Catholic prophecy of 1965 Garabandal that said
        “Many Cardinals,many bishops and many priests are on the road to perdition and they are taking many souls with them”.And that was in 1965!How much worse are these “holy” men today.Vatican II was the beginning of the rot…}

        • DS says

          Feb 15, 2019 at 5:28 pm

          You are exactly right FYI! The Vatican II sect is NOT the Catholic Church. They are the prophesied end-times Counter Church. The post-Vatican II “Church” is a counterfeit “Catholic” sect with new teachings, new practices, and a new mass. It is not the Catholic Church established by Jesus Christ upon Saint Peter! Since Vatican II, Catholics have been misled by heretical antipopes who have promoted false teachings that go against the One True Holy Catholic Church! The Four year long Communist Council started a Revolution against the Catholic Faith and instituted the false post-Vatican II sect. This counterfeit Vatican II sect and it’s leaders are not holy or Catholic, it’s teachings and fruits are not Catholic. Sacred Scripture and Catholic prophecy foretold us that the devil’s final assault would arise in the last days. This post-Vatican II sect authenticates the traditional One Holy Catholic Faith as it has always been and always will be! The gates of hell shall not prevail against thee!

  2. Michael Copeland says

    Feb 12, 2019 at 8:30 am

    “violence too often predominates between Christians and Muslims….”
    What a deceptively ambiguous statement.
    And how many specifically Christian violent attacks against muslims have there been?
    Of attacks by muslims, specifically against non-muslims, there are, on average, some five PER DAY.

    “Does Islam or does it not force people by the power of the sword to submit ? Yes”,
    said Osama bin Laden.
    https://theobamahustle.wordpress.com/2011/11/12/anjem-choudary-explains-muslim-hate-for-christians-and-jews/

    • somehistory says

      Feb 12, 2019 at 9:33 am

      Michael Copeland,
      “violence too often predominates between Christians and Muslims ”

      Yes, this is implying that attacks by Christians on moslims are happening…a lot…and that it is as much the responsibility of Christians to make peace with moslims and “respect” them as “moslims.”

    • gravenimage says

      Feb 12, 2019 at 8:08 pm

      Yes–that violence is all one-way–Muslim on Christian.

      • Rufolino says

        Feb 13, 2019 at 9:42 am

        When are “fatwahs” of death ever preached from Christian pulpits ??

        Have yet to hear of them, despite this disgraceful joint declaration, which by implication insults Christians..

  3. Dan says

    Feb 12, 2019 at 8:44 am

    For those wanting to know exactly what kind of an idiot Cupich is, check out a Catholic media run by Michael Voris.

    Mr. Voris interviewed Mr. Spencer about two years ago, so viewers there know exactly how dangerous Islam is.

    • Rufolino says

      Feb 13, 2019 at 9:46 am

      Voris is well-known for verbally persecuting gay Christians on Youtube. He hates homosexuals.

      • Rufolino says

        Feb 13, 2019 at 9:49 am

        (Having been one himself.)

        • CogitoErgoSum says

          Feb 13, 2019 at 6:20 pm

          Voris thinks committing a homosexual act is a sin …. just as adultery is a sin, just as stealing is a sin, just as murder is a sin. Saying something is a sin is not verbal persecution …. especially if it is on YouTube where a person is free to watch or not watch a video. Voluntarily watching a video that one does not like is not persecution. I would say the correct word to use in such a case would be “masochism” instead of “persecution.”

  4. retiredtobedlam says

    Feb 12, 2019 at 8:57 am

    Mister Mohammed’s initial impression was that his “visions” were demonic. For once in his life he was right & truthful.

  5. janwog says

    Feb 12, 2019 at 9:06 am

    The persecuted Catholics by Muslims in Pakistan, Nigeria, and others countries are shamed by this traitor Pope.

    • DS says

      Feb 15, 2019 at 2:29 pm

      He is the anti-Pope, not the Pope!

  6. Paul S says

    Feb 12, 2019 at 9:15 am

    Thank you RS for being a man of strong moral fiber. I firmly stand by your side and will defend you against the wicked churchmen the world has thrust upon us.

    As a Roman Catholic man who will never leave the faith, I demand that all US bishops (so-called) make their positions known to Roman Catholics in their particular diocese. I no longer believe or trust any upper level cleric holds fast to the perennial teaching of the faith. Make known to all whether you are a man of God who, at least beginning today, are prepared to defend that for which you were called by the One True God to defend. Either you will convert today and be a man of God that the faithful can rely on or you are forever with him, the anti-christ and his anti-church.

    Because you have rejected God the Son and are ashamed to be a real man and teach the faith without ambiguity, I reject you and your feckless frightened comrades that are neither hot or cold and who will eventually be vomited out of the True Church.

    May God have mercy on your soul.

  7. somehistory says

    Feb 12, 2019 at 9:46 am

    Wolves surrounding the flock and being assisted by false shepherds, wolves of another pack, pretending to do what is best for the sheep in their care.

    How is it right to expect the poor flock to make friends…and call “brothers”…”ravenous wolves”? Are the sheep sneaking up on the wolves and taking away the weak and vulnerable pups? Are the sheep using their teeth made for eating grass to slaughter and devour the wolves?

    It is not only Wrong to do this, it is evil and straight from satan, the “father of the lie.” The entire document is based on a pack of lies thought up by packs of wolves intent on destroying the sheep.

    All persons who believe and have faith in Jesus Christ should be aware that this is not meant to bring them any good. It will not bring “peace.” There cannot be a sharing by the Children of God with the children of the devil.

  8. Or Else! says

    Feb 12, 2019 at 9:53 am

    Everybody must read Spencer’s “The History of Jihad” and Ibrahim’s “Sword and Scimitar”. Scholarly works that knock down any peaceful facade apologists build in front of Muhammad and all that follows…as many of the references are taken from Muslim historians who were PROUD of the jihadi depravation.

    Islamists certainly weren’t/aren’t alone in their injustices….but they’re still at it…and for the same reasons.

  9. Michael Copeland says

    Feb 12, 2019 at 10:32 am

    “Living together”?
    “Battle, animosity, and hatred — directed from the Muslim to the infidel — is the foundation of our religion”
    Osama bin Laden

  10. Spiro says

    Feb 12, 2019 at 11:11 am

    Maybe this and other catholic leaders
    Could spend a little time and effort in cleaning up their own ranks
    This church has some very serious problems that need attention
    They could also benefit from learning about the evil they so blindly embrace

  11. dan christensen says

    Feb 12, 2019 at 11:15 am

    “…is a clarion call for robust dialogue that leads to peace,…”

    Another name for “a robust dialogue” is religious war.
    This suggested religious war has now lasted 1400 years, almost uninterrupted, leading surely to peace – the winner’s peace.
    Islam is not going to be the winner, as the Christian world is in complete military domination.

  12. Wellington says

    Feb 12, 2019 at 11:39 am

    At best just another hudna. Deception here fills the air.

    • gravenimage says

      Feb 13, 2019 at 10:54 pm

      +1

  13. Sam says

    Feb 12, 2019 at 12:15 pm

    Do Catholics feel ashamed of their Pope or not?

    • gravenimage says

      Feb 12, 2019 at 8:09 pm

      Some certainly do–including many staunch Catholics here.

    • DS says

      Feb 12, 2019 at 10:01 pm

      The prevatican II Catholics aren’t ashamed. We all know he is the anti-pope!

  14. Paul Kiernan says

    Feb 12, 2019 at 3:49 pm

    Amazing how my church which cellebrates Eucharist can be so deceived by the powers of darkness rather than exposing them as per Student. Paul in New Testament.

  15. gravenimage says

    Feb 12, 2019 at 8:10 pm

    U.S. Catholic-Muslim Dialogue top dog applauds deceptive “living together” document signed by Pope and Grand Sheikh
    …………………

    What an ignorant dhimmi tool.

  16. Ronyvo says

    Feb 13, 2019 at 6:05 am

    I don’t think that Francis does not know that Islam does not have anything to do with peace. The Koran (the holy book of the Muslims is full of killing ““Fight against those who believe not in Allah nor the last day nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and his messenger and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth among the people of the scripture, until they pay jiziah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.” Surah 9:29
    “Fight them, until there is no persecution and the religion is God’s” Surah 193
    “O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors. They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them is on of them.” Surah 5:51 & 3:28
    “Kill the mushrikeen (polytheists, Christians and non-Muslims), wherever you find them, and capture them and besiege them, and lie in wait for them in each and every ambush”. Surah 9:5
    Just examples of the horrible teachings of the religion of peace.

    So, what goes in his brainless head to deceive his people and sign such document with the most hateful man on earth. El tayeb is the leader of Al Azhar the source of tyranny in the world. He is powerful like his profit Mohammad. The difference between them Mohammad used the sword El-Tayeb uses the Islamic takyya. Obviously, the later weapon is more powerful. Satan is working very hard.

  17. UNCLE VLADDI says

    Feb 13, 2019 at 8:59 pm

    The Pope’s Submission isn’t an aberration or a glitch – it’s a feature!

    Since we can never really know anything for sure, there are no crimes nor criminals but only equally helpless fellow victims, so useless pity is our highest moral virtue, while getting usefully angry at (aka “hateful” towards) criminals for choosing to commit their crimes, in the hope of thereby preventing future crimes, is these days held up as the most vile sin.

    That isn’t “post” Christianity, it’s basic Christian doctrine taken to its logical conclusion: “Resist ye not evil men!” “Forgive them for they know not what they do!” “Always turn the other cheek!” “Vengeance is the Lord’s alone!”

    i.e: SUBMIT!

    Christianity isn’t much better than islam because it’s still Submission!

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