Almost half of Swedish women are regularly prisoners in their own home because it is too dangerous to go outside. Religious police and gangs are controlling ever larger areas. There are not enough police to stabilize the country. There is no help in sight for the Swedes, and Sweden is becoming an ever greater security threat to the surrounding NATO countries. Should NATO react?
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gravenimage says
Video: Should NATO help Sweden?
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Sweden certainly needs help. I’m just not sure how many Swedes will acknowledge this–the denial over the threat of Islam runs deep there.
Mac-101 says
This is highly amusing. These super Libs and especially the Lib Women who account for over 50% of the vote vote for this and now they are imprisoned by their own policies/PoliTicks they voted for. This is the future of the entire Western Civilization. Masculinity is declared Toxic among the civilized but worshipped when possessed by the barbarians which THEY can’t import enough of into the West. The future does NOT bode well for civilized man!. .
gravenimage says
I actually don’t find this horror all that amusing, Mac.
mortimer says
Yes, horrifying! And even more so since this HYSTERICAL form of MASOCHISM and STOCKHOLM SYNDROME is SELF-GENERATED IN SWEDEN by the LEFTISTS.
There have even been Swedish women who refused to identify their rapists since it might help rightist parties get elected! There have been Swedish women who made public displays of WEEPING OVER Muslim criminals and rapists being EXPELLED FROM SWEDEN back to their Islamic HELLHOLES.
Sweden is experiencing a MASSIVE GROUP HYSTERIA of MASOCHISM and SELF-ANNIHILATION for some reason. Most of SWEDES SHOULD UNDERGO SHOCK THERAPY to get out of this MADNESS.
Mac-101 says
Please. Take it from a person who has dealt with death and killin for a lifetime. If one does NOT see a certain gallows Humor in all of this you WILL go nuts and it will eat you alive. That is what PTSD is. Failure to let things go and drive on.
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As it stand now unless we are successful in awakin a whole lot of Sheeple very quickly this battle is lost. I as well as you all are doin your part. Keep workin on friends, family and strangers. I find humor and the absurd are the best tools I have to approach this sensitive topic. There is SO much material to work with Islam that most people find it hard to believe, but even the most ignorant know their bloody ways and the Religion of Peace BS is due to payola and threats!
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I just can’t believe THEY have us so cowered. I very rarely meet anyone here in KY no matter how poe, how much or little pigmentation or genitlia that they possess that does NOT recognize it ALL. I guess us flyover people are too dumb to be smart like the Intelligentsia!
gravenimage says
Mac, I actually do appreciate gallows humor. I just don’t want to see *anyone* suffer under the horrors of Jihad.
Mac-101 says
Gravin, Nobody wants to see these Satanic Clowns take over any Western Country, or any country in fact, let alone the entire West. But at this rate they WILL. We have been sold out by Traitors.
gravenimage says
Largely agree, Mac. Still, we do see a few signs of life in Sweden, and I am hoping for more.
gravenimage says
Peter, I was not suggesting we invade–I just meant that I don’t want to see Swedes murdered by Jihadists.
Bill says
I understand the feeling. It is amusing in a grim sort of way to watch a bunch of gullible liberals, in cognitive dissonance, wonder how they being so enlightened and all, so giving, noble and pure of heart, could be slaughtered and marginalized. All the Venezuelans who voted for Chavez and within 10 years reduced to impoverished serfs in thrall to a Communist dictator are discovering it now too.
The French have figured it out, maybe too late. The English have sort of figured it out but haven’t shown the resolve to do anything thus far. They aren’t getting their voted for Brexit, and instead of marching the traitors off to the gallows for their treason, they are swallowing it like the well trained serfs that they are.
Many in the USA have and are trying to prevent it. Outcome is very uncertain.So any humor I might harbor is fleeting and is more than matched by my concern that we will be Sweden soon enough. Had Hillary won, we would be there by now. When we give in, it will be fast, and brutal beyond words to anyone who resists.
Kentucky? The liberals in the USA have said there is no intelligent life once you stray off Interstate 95. Yeah, years ago some NYT pundit actually wrote that. Well the left fears you in the flyover states most of all. You just won’t go along. So they have to disarm you. Just look, all the lefty states are captured already (MA, CT, RI, NY, NJ, MD, IL, CA, OR and WA. Second Amendment rights gone, First and Fourth are a mirage, and each is or is becoming a sanctuary state. PA right now is on the frontier of freedom and under assault daily.
Mac-101 says
Well said. I’m originally from Pittsburgh and worked in the Clairton USS Works and watched what the Combination of Globalist, Top Management and the Unions did to our once great Steel Industry. One can kinda forgive them back then since the Globalist Agenda was rather somewhat hid.
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It is right out in the open now and the idiots in West Virginia to go back to the Donkey is just plain ignorant. They DON”T want good jobs? Any person who can NOT see that open borders drive down their wages and take their jobs will NOT respond to a loss of Freedom by the Globalist or Islamist!
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Since the massive voter fraud in 2016 and 2018 was NOT addressed by the RePugs, Texas and Florida will be lost in 2020. By 2022 we will be well on our way to becoming their sick dream of the USSA! Pray for this Nation and our souls. We truly have turned our back on G-d and are legalizing killin babies right up to and AFTER birth. Moloch must be so happy!
Save Europe says
Respectfully Bill –
1) what you perceive as ‘sort of amusing’, is psychologically, ‘fear transferral’, on your part. I know you mean no harm, but you blindly do NOT consider any Swedish NON Leftist who didn’t agree to this. Have a better think in future, I would suggest.
2) sad to say – America hasn’t totally cottoned on. I am delighted Trump won – I say that sincerely – but you have as many Leftist idiots as the UK or France do. What happens, post Trump? A soft Republican or HRC esque Demonazi?
thebigW says
” I know you mean no harm, but you blindly do NOT consider any Swedish NON Leftist who didn’t agree to this.”
When it comes to the ones who support Muslims and call us “racists” for condemning Islam and try to shame us, I don’t have any sympathy when they become victims of Muslims, and I can imagine how good it would feel to say “I told you so”. Man what I wouldn’t give to see a Muslim supporter say they finally see what we’re saying – but only at the point of a Muslim beheading sword. Only problem is, their stupidity is dragging the rest of us down, and there ain’t no easy way to extricate ourselves from our fellow Westerners who are Stupid for Islam.
Michael B Przydzielski says
Seems like a no-win situation. It is not clear what could be done to “help” the Swedes and if the “help” would be seen as such. “Something” is done and it is evidence of Fascist Right wingers rearing their greasy islamophobic heads, and further crimipling and possibility of a sane conversation… though I guess the left has long left the train station with that one. Nothing is done and the Sweds suffer, especially the women. We should pray that the men in that country grow a pair!!!
Dawne says
My brother (UK citizen) lived and worked in the US for 10 years and then moved to Australia with work in 2008. He went back to visit the US in December and travelled round visiting friends/colleagues in several states. He told me that because of taxation levels in some states people are moving out to lower tax states. He gave the example of Californians he knew moving to Texas and he seemed to think there was a lot of this happening. But he said that the Californians move because they don’t like the high tax, but then are taking their “liberal” ideas to their new state and are now pushing for e.g. gun controls in Texas.
Do you see this happening? If so, non-liberal states need to be very careful about this infiltration of liberals?
David M says
I was thinking that too, how many of these women voted for the leftist parties that bring in the Muslims? Every single one who voted for them brought it on herself.
Garfield says
As a woman, I am disgusted by liberal women. It’s embarrassing as hell that women vote to bring savages to rape their kids and destroy society. That’s what they are doing.
gravenimage says
I know how you feel, Garfield.
jule says
100% agree Mac. I lived in Sweden for a school year 1970s. I remember how it was and I see why this has now happened with great sadness.
No matter how many mistakes Trump makes, I will vote for him 2020 just hoping he can stop & recover USA for the damage already done. We can fix anything he messes up Except this. NATO cannot step in for Sweden same as it cannot step in for France or Britain. To think I used to defend Islam in America Only BECAUSE I did not know what it was. Then I researched by reading the Qur’an/Hadiths, history, comments from media across MidEast. Now I know. I actually agree with a Muslim Ban and No Freedom of Speech in Mosques Teaching generations this brain rot to more human beings as The Word of Allah and their Duty to it. People who disagree with me on that do not know what Islam is. America needs to know and stop following. I thought we as Americans were taught to question and fact check. We, like Swedes, have been too sheltered to see real danger when it sneaks up. We were so lucky to be sheltered, but look whats its done to our insight!
We are in for real trouble but its not over til its over.
Bill says
NATO? Seriously? All they will do is round up the last of the malcontents that do not surrender to globalization.
Mac-101 says
So True. The New EU Army will not be a good thing for a FREE People.
jule says
EU turned into old Germany. I have watched this for years now.
vlparker says
That was my reaction, too. Aren’t most of the NATO countries on the side of the jihadists?
christianblood says
(..Should NATO help Sweden?..)
NO, Let the Muslims They Love and Support Take Over Sweden and the rest of the West! They West is satanic, pro-Islam and Anti-Christ! May God Bless Christian Russia!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFLv4zAeXaE
christianblood says
I have more respect for ISIS than Sweden and similar Western countries! They are all my enemies!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_MZKRG3frQ
gravenimage says
*Of course* christianblood has respect for ISIS. He is enraged that the US defeated the Islamic State.
jule says
What? more respect for ISIL? Somehow you got scrambled. Hoping you recover soon. Most countries have real problems of corruption but Islam is something all together different no matter how they use Russia. Not even Russia can live with Islam. Shia or Sunni and the Shia prophecy passed to Russian Churches will not include any kind of Christian accept as slave to be used. And ISIL IS Islam, make no mistake.
christianblood says
Sweden=ISIS
‘..Sweden is more dangerous than islamic Mogadishu!..”
An African journalist!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=as4m-dDubjg
gravenimage says
I rarely repeat replies, but in response to spam I will make an exception. Here is my reply to this video christianblood posted elsewhere:
It is disgusting that she did not receive support from Swedish journalists.
But it was not Swedes who were threatening her–nor were they responsible for her Muslim family turning on her.
As for Somalia being safer than Sweden, note that there have been many incidents of girls’ schools being attacked there, and schoolgirls being abducted and raped by Al-Shebaab:
https://reliefweb.int/report/nigeria/10-countries-where-girls-education-has-been-under-attack
This is not happening to schoolgirls in Sweden, despite what christianblood would have us believe.
garry pollack says
when will swedes start screaming FAKE NEWS!
christianblood says
gravenimage
Please watch her interview again! This journalist was condemned by the pro-Islamic MSM in Sweden for exposing and reporting on Swedish mosques’ role in radicalizing Swedish muslims and as a result of that her life was threatened by radical muslims in Sweden and had to flee the country! She now lives a low-profile life in Mogadishu and she rightly calls Sweden more dangerous than Mogadishu! I admire her bravery and honesty!
gravenimage says
I said that is was disgusting that she did not receive support from her fellow journalists in Sweden.
But it was not these dhimmis who threatened her–it was *Muslims* in Sweden.
And as bad as things are in Sweden due to Muslim immigration, they are *far worse* in Somalia, which is virtually 100% Muslim.
Somalia is, in fact, the most dangerous country in the world:
In fact, of the top ten dangerous countries, the seven worse are all Muslim nations:
https://answersafrica.com/violent-crime-rates-by-country.html
LR says
It may be the Muslims threatening her…But it is the failure of ‘our own’ that is the greater problem…
It’s the failure of too many people in ‘the West’ not believing, and supporting this woman, and others like her, that is the greater problem.
Hitler was only one evil asshole. It was the failure of more people to not crush the evil that was growing that became the problem.
thebigW says
Yeah, but they’re two different problems. The West isn’t helping Muzzies because the West is evil; Muzzies are doing what they do because they follow evil Islam. So yeah I guess you could say that Western stupidity is a “greater problem” because it’s getting in the way of addressing the evil of Islam.
christianblood says
thebigW
+1
christianblood says
LR posted
(…Hitler was only one evil asshole. It was the failure of more people to not crush the evil that was growing that became the problem…)
Well-said!
gravenimage says
True, thebigW.
Oliva says
NATO needs to go in there and kick some ass.
Renate says
Sweden should never have allowed the problem to get to this point. If that’s a “feminist” country, feminists must be awfully stupid women. I hope the problem doesn’t spill over into neighbouring countries.
gravenimage says
I’m afraid Sweden is not along in this–they may be the worst, but you find this all over Europe and the rest of the West.
Renate says
If NATO does intervene, “feminists” should never be allowed to run anything in that country ever again. I hope Sweden’s NATO dues are paid up.
Kepha says
Sweden is not in NATO; Norway and Denamark are.
christianblood says
Peter35
Radical feminists are destroying the West!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=lF-umOajGGQ
gravenimage says
When christianblood talks about feminism, he is not just talking about extreme feminism–he has also condemned women for daring to report wife beating, saying that they should not be allowed to speak publicly about being abused, nor to seek help from the police or courts.
thebigW says
” There ARE many smart women in the west, but for some reason (?) they either don’t run for power, or are not voted in by a fickle populace.”
I can think of ONE smart lady, Tulsi Gabbard, young female Democrat, half Samoan, Congresswoman from Hawaii. You’d think she’d be a shoe-in, only one problem, she’s outspoken about how bad Islam (yeah yeah “radical Islam”) is, so the Democrats are handicapping her chances to run for 2020.
christianblood says
thebigW
You are right! Tulsi is great! They all hate her for saying common sense!
jule says
I hesitate to write this but when i lived in Sweden, many of the women told me they couldn’t wait for their yearly ‘Holidays’ when they could go to south Spain/Morocco where the men had some passion. They described Swedish men as pale sticks. Girl talk shouldn’t be repeated on line but now they get to see this kind of thing is not for fun but humiliation. It isn’t passion but psychotic domination. (BTW Norwegen men are NOTHING like Swedes. and N Swedes are nothing like central/southern)
gravenimage says
Good for Tulsi Gabbard.
christianblood says
gravenimage posted
(…I’m afraid Sweden is not along in this–they may be the worst, but you find this all over Europe and the rest of the West…)
+1
gravenimage says
Sadly, Russia has its own problems with appeasing Muslims.
christianblood says
gravenimage
(..Sadly, Russia has its own problems with appeasing Muslims..)
False Projection! Russia is NOT the West!
christianblood says
gravenimage
(…If minorities prefer Sharia law then we advise them to go to those places where that is the state law. Russia does not need minorities. Minorities need Russia, and we will not grant them special privileges, or try to change our laws to fit their desires, no matter how loud they yell discrimination”. Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin.
More below:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8MfmMIW0AA6fI9.jpg:large
gravenimage says
No, Russia is not the West–but this does not make appeasement of Islam there somehow magically benignant.
christianblood cited:
…If minorities prefer Sharia law then we advise them to go to those places where that is the state law. Russia does not need minorities. Minorities need Russia, and we will not grant them special privileges, or try to change our laws to fit their desires, no matter how loud they yell discrimination”. Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin.
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The problem with this is that Putin does not mean it. He is building mega-Mosques for Muslims, and opening them with Muslim thugs like Erdogan and Abbas.
Worst of all, he has allowed Chechny–which is part of Russia–to become a full Shari’ah state, in defiance of Russian law, and has said and done nothing to stop this.
christianblood, in fact, has lauded Shari’ah law in Chechnya–including the murder of gays, “Honor Killings” of women, and even persecution of and violence against Christians.
dan christensen says
In Scandinavia all residents with citizenship in one of the nordic countries are permitted to travel, move, work and do business freely in any nordic country.
Thus all muslim migrants with a Swedish passport may freely move around in Scandinavia and receive full welfare benefits.
As your citizenship in Scandinavian countries are almost impossible to revoke, you see the perspective.
Many muslim street gangs operating in Sweden are connected with their fellow believers in Denmark and Norway.
Most Swedes are, after 100 years of socialdemocratic suppression, complete docile and indolent like cattle. As long as the socialdemocratic femi-nazi politicians are sweet talking soothingly to the swedish tax-slaves, they’ll put up with anything.
They maybe will react, if you pull the food out from their mouths directly, while they are crunching it.
Savvy Kafir says
That’s a pretty grim analysis, Dan. On the whole, I’m sure you’re right. But there are some sensible, liberty-loving Swedes who despise what is being done to their country by Muslims & their PC enablers.
scottysemporium says
In the long run…meaning generational, not next week, the inevitable clash will come. As the devotees gain nu mbers they will gain the influence they need, and with birthrates that are nothing short of extraordinary, as women are turned into baby-making machines, it won’t be long at all.
There’s a piece of evidence from the HolyLand trial in which the founding of the Muslim Brotherhoods efforts in acquiring North America for their purposes are detailed…and it’s not a pretty picture.
What one needs to know is that we are dealing with a supremacist religion, in which members are compelled to achieve a political takeover, as this political movement is totalizing, and the religion is merely a thin beard for political ends.
And the political ends? When muslims are in the minority? They are very concerned about minority rights, and champion causes that allow them to bond with these minorities and discontented in civilization, and count on other discontented members, starting in jails, primarily, and in schools at the same time, converting and undermining the institutions.
When they are a minority, muslims make much of minority rights. Once they have the majority? There are no minority rights…
wsieruk@yahoo.com says
This Muslim rioting ,arson ,violence and mayhem in the nation of Sweden may serve as an example of Muslim ungratefulness and unthankfulness for letting them enter Sweden to live. This this further exposes the Muslim’s Islamic contempt for people who are Westerners and Western civilization, Western laws.
This Muslim violence may be yet better explained by one of the fables of Aesop which is entitled THE FARMER AND THE VIPER. So here it is “Once in ancient Greece there was a farmer outside on a very cold winter day walking in if field to make sure that everything is in order and as it should be. The farmer came upon a half-froze viper about to die from the bitter cold. The kind yet foolish farmer took pity on the viper and in an action of kindness put it his is vest jacket to warms and up and thus save its life. The viper warned up revived and then bit farmer through the vest jacket. So the kind but foolish farmer died a slow painful death in awful agony because he felt sorry of the viper and saved it life. The point to this fable is the no amount of kindness will change and vicious and evil nature.
So it is with those Muslim migrants who were allowed to enter Sweden to live . Those violent migrants who are Muslims will not be impress and change because kindness of Westerners. This is because those violent Muslims have that ungrateful dangerous viper nature because of their venomous and violent religion which is Islam.
Mark Berlinger says
“The point to this fable” used to be called “the moral of the story.” Morality is something completely missing in the indiscriminate modern liberal utopia of Socialist Europe and North America.
roberta says
The fable goes a bit different in my Aesop’s Fables book, but the point is the same.
Where you go wrong on this is not that muslims are ungrateful, its not a matter of ungrateful at all. They see our kindness as a fulfillment of the koran, we are supposed to always submit to them and pay for their upkeep. They owe us nothing in return. NOTHING
The fable does apply in daily life. I have never seen gratitude from the vicious.
The last person to show mercy, will be the first person to beg for it. Is another
applicable fact of life.
gravenimage says
Muslims see our kindness as weakness.
christianblood says
gravenimage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYnphmKkOhU
gravenimage says
As I have noted many times, Iben Thranholm makes some good points.
But note that the source of this–the “katehon” site–is *not* anti-Jihad. In fact, their whole point is that Russians should ally with Muslims to destroy the West.
The Muslims who contribute there–like the oleaginous Sheikh Imran Nazor Hosein–pretend that Muslims really respect Orthodox Christianity, and only want to destroy the West.
This is not just ugly in and of itself, but anyone–like christianblood–who swallows this from Muslims does not seem to understand that they would be the next victims.
http://katehon.com/article/islamic-eschatology-and-its-relation-christian-eschatology
And here’s more from the same pious Muslim, at another site christianblood likes to link to:
“The Kuranic foundations of the need for an alliance between Islam and Orthodoxy”
https://thesaker.is/the-kuranic-foundations-of-the-need-for-an-alliance-between-islam-and-orthodoxy/
Savvy Kafir says
Yes. NATO should step in, to save Sweden from itself, and from all those wonderful Muslims they just can’t seem to get enough of.
An Islamic Sweden would be too great a security risk for the rest of Europe. That can’t be allowed to happen.
And there are quite a few sensible, patriotic, freedom-loving Swedes who would love to see the Islamic tide rolled back. The sooner they come to blows with the enemy (with NATO support), the better.
Also, a rescue of Sweden could serve as a model of things to come in other European countries.
Terry Gain says
No. NATO should not step in. The arrogant Swedes thought they were smarter than everyone else and they brought this upon themselves. Sweden needs to fall and soon and hard so that the rest of Europe can wake up before it is too late. If the Swedes show that they have some self respect and start to fight back the rest of Europe can help the Swedes liberate their country once the disease of Islam is removed from Europe.
gravenimage says
With respect, Terry, the idea that Sweden falling to Islam would be a *good* thing is questionable at best. Muslims would not only persecute native Swedes, but would use that nation as a base from which to wage Jihad against Sweden’s neighbors.
Savvy Kafir says
Agreed. Muslims cannot be allowed to conquer ANY Western nations. It’s too dangerous for all of the neighboring countries.
Politically correct, Islam-friendly Swedes need to be shown the error of their ways in some other way. At gunpoint, if necessary. The worst/ most influential ones should be forced to live in Muslim ghettos for a while. There are probably some Swedish patriots who would love to make that happen.
Save Europe says
Terry – not every Swede is arrogant or agreed to this. Please consider those who didn’t.
Btw – I’m not Swedish.
Savvy Kafir says
Right. Those sensible Swedes are living in a nightmare scenario. I cannot imagine how awful, how stressful, and how infuriating it must be for them.
They are in dire need of help. And I’m sure many of them would jump at an opportunity to put things right, no matter what it takes, if they were given a fighting chance via some outside support.
Rufolino says
Sounds like you recommend regime-change in Sweden along the lines of what happened in Iraq.
You cannot FORCE a nation to save itself.
A catastrophe unfolds in Sweden, but it is what the majority apparently want.
thebigW says
“Politically correct, Islam-friendly Swedes need to be shown the error of their ways in some other way. At gunpoint, if necessary. ”
Who’s going to do the gunpoint? If any Western country by a MIRACLE evolved that far, they’d be Slobodanned by the rest of the West.
christianblood says
Terry Gain
+1
christianblood says
America and the West are nothing but a “gay” disco!
https://www.knightstemplarorder.com/latest_videos?page=3
christianblood says
Oops! See it below:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=494&v=IbGS6jb4WfI
gravenimage says
How are Spaniards marching dressed as Knights Templar indicative of the West being a “gay disco”? This makes no sense.
And christianblood has said many times that he is fine with Jihad terror–even when Russians are the victims–and that the only real threat to the world are gay parades.
Kepha says
I’m with Terry Gain here. Experience is the only school in which fools will learn–and, perhaps, our Western Leftists won’t even learn from mean old Prof. Experience. Further, if the sensible Swedes do awaken, it might just have to be something like Spain and Portugal’s 700-year anti-colonialist struggle, oops, Reconquista. As a Christian and someone whose seen the aftermaths of wars, I wouldn’t wish this on anyone; but, I think I’ve seen too much from both history and my own eyes to make me more than a little bit of a short-term pessimist.
I confess to being a little jaundiced. Had I a pile of money, there are men dating from 1941-45 I’d like to dig up from European soil to ship home. My whole life I’ve been exposed to European intellectuals sticking it to my country for its racism, and transparently unforgiving towards us for having made it impossible for their countries to have been liberated and ruled by their idol Stalin. I’ve noted Jan Myrdal and Gun Kessle telling me that Mao’s China was Paradise; but I’ve seen what happened to the Chinese intellectuals who got their postwar wish, and heard in Chinese how aspirations of the Chinese peasantry didn’t pan out. Worse, I’ve seen French students of African heritage come to me remarking on how relaxed my country’s race relations were–and in a former stomping ground of the KKK at that! While I regret that my country didn’t take in more of Europe’s Jews after Kristallnacht, I think we were the net losers when all those big lights of Weimar culture started informing our own after they fled the odious Herr Schickelgrueber.
But, who knows? The Holy Spirit of God isn’t beneath pulling a fast one on his self-assured haters. Maybe there will be a European Great Awakening, and a movement of Muslims to Christ. I’d love to see it.
Forgive me if I’ve exhibited a bit of an American superiority complex. I know my country has a lot of its own problems and shortsightedness.
Save Europe says
I’m not American, so I cannot say what rhetoric you have received from Leftist Swedes. I’m also not Swedish, but please don’t hope that Sweden suffers, because there are MANY who vote for the Sweden Democeats – and they are anti-Muslim immigrants.
LR says
Kepha….
Thanks for your post…I always enjoy them…And always learn something.
Kepha says
@SaveEurope. OK. Maybe I’m too jaundiced. While there are foreign countries I like and for which I wish only the best, maybe a part of my problem is that I grew up in an era when four liberal networks were the information gatekeepers for my country (the USA). And what of the power the left holds over much of the rest of the media even today! Perhaps it was only the fashionably Leftist commentators who were given a hearing; and we were not allowed to know of other Europeans who had a differing view.
jule says
NATO without US is for show only. Why don’t they step in to help France?
christianblood says
jule
Nato=North Atlantic Terrorist Organization!
Start from mark 0:58
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLRvQ_-IQVs
gravenimage says
christianblood has posted this absurd video many times now, saying that the only problem the West has ever had with Russia is because when Russia “allowed” East Germany to break free from the Iron Curtain that the West supposedly assured Russia that they could hold every other part of Eastern Europe in perpetual slavery, and then reneged.
This is of course claptrap–and would be hideously ugly if it *were* true. christianblood thinking that this would reflect well on Russia shows how twisted his worldview is.
Renate says
Just how ungrateful do you have to be as to hold your hosts hostage when you were taken in as “refugees”? Muslims are myopic. They see only Shariah. They need a good dose of reality.
Isabella van der westhuizen says
They deserve it. They always supported terrorist organizations fighting to over throw the white rule in Africa.
All those countries are now basket cases. Angola , Mozambique, ZImbabwe. Let us see how they like being at the sharp end now. Not so easy living in a diverse multicultural society is it
Tom says
Unfortunately this has been in the cards for Sweden for some time and the tipping point has been reached where the Islamist population now exceeds 8% of the population which brings on the Islamist move to take control as predicted. When the muslim population is below 3% they are low profile and work only to increase their influence in politics. When the muslim population reaches 6% of the population we start to see aggressive street and area control and the establishment of no go zones. When the muslim population reaches 8% they are open and expansive in their revolt against the host society and violence becomes common place.
This is what has occurred elsewhere, and has been successful for Islam, why would it not be so in Sweden.
If Sweden falls so goes France, Germany and the UK.
Bk says
Good points. Wonder also bit of catch 22 for Russia who threatened Sweden with recourse if it joined NATO. Russia preping itself and is notably alarmed at build up of NATO Nations (Ah Er New Colonies of the EU/EEC) along its borders. Sweden took exception at Rusia’s threat and asked for help which I find humour. The catch 22 is what is Russia to do with a Nation Ah Er Colony destined to “hang it self’ and swing high to so many madnesses including Islam, EU/EEC and even spurn NATO. Not forgeting we have yet to see in next month who will replace Jean Claude “Juncker of the World”, then 3 months later a like minded to new leader EEC and if like minded to Junker the EU//EEC Military who 10000 man mision is stated to be control and monitor ah er over sight of Immigration / Emigration at border of all its Colonies. Not forgetting Canada its first Country to be made a EU/EEC Colony and its build up in NATO neighboring countries in EU Region. Also find it notable in latest savy these European Nations asking NATO help over EU/EEC.
Indiana Tom says
Swedish safety starts with Swedes. You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it drink. NATO intervention is worthless and probably would make things worse with the PC culture permeating Europe.
gravenimage says
True. And NATO could not necessarily be counted on to consistently oppose Islam now, in any case.
jule says
In all cases of Russia, NATO ect we have to distinguish between Shia and Sunni And some Sunni who are working with Shia. Some of the crazy sermons I have heard from Shia in Russia at Orthodox churches say that when Russia and Shia fight Turkey, they will give Constantinople back to Orthodox Christians. I know Putin does not believe anything Islam but will work with any who will work with them. And Chechnya is mainly Sunni and have attacked Russia many times and takes hostages but Putin does have the Leader pretty much under his thumb with bribes and threats. Still most are Sunni. Turkey is Sunni. Russia sides mainly with Shia, for now, AND they are in South America together. They make a lot of money from there.
My point though is we cannot easily say Islam for everything except their basic goals spelled out in Qur’an to wipe out Jews and Rule the world with whatever brand they follow & will fight each other over which brand, USUALLY. But to say Russia allies with Islam isn’t quite it because it is not Sunni for now who they fought in Syria. US allies with Saudi/Gulf Sunni.
Wellington says
I will never forget when Bill O’Reilly a few years ago had Michael Moore on his show on Fox and Moore, typically, was trashing America, and so O’Reilly asked Moore what country did he admire, what country engaged in endeavors, economic and otherwise, that he thought should be emulated by America. Moore, in complete ignorance mode yet again, said “Sweden.”
Putting aside that Moore is a hypocrite because he excoriates the only economic system which has ever produced wealth for the greatest multitude all the while getting very rich off said system (rather like the Beatles did and why I will listen to none of their songs), the man is so ignorant to this day that he would still, I have no doubt, say “Sweden.”
But the real problem is that way too many Swedes continue to think in “Moore mode.” They have no reason to anymore. Clearly.
Sweden has made a catastrophic mistake by assuming something that is evil, i.e., Islam, is not evil. They’re paying for it now. Minus drastic refiguring by Sweden soon like, Swedes will pay for their ignorance of evil forever.
Stunning how the Left so often thinks evil is good (e.g., Islam) and good (e.g., capitalism) is evil. As much as Islam is a curse to mankind, I think it arguable that Western Leftism is an even greater curse because minus massive foolishness iniquity could be dealt with so much more easily. All of which proves yet again that ignorance of evil is actually worse than evil itself. Sweden is finding this out right now.
gravenimage says
Good post, Wellington.
By the way re Michael Moore, his 2015 movie “Where to Invade Next” is virtually a paean to the EU–some good points, many just lauding socialism of one sort or another, all while trashing the United States, of course.
But the most grotesque bit is his applauding *Tunisia* on women’s rights, which he considers far superior to America. If *anything* makes it clear that this man is a clown, it is this.
thebigW says
I got another memory of Bill O’Reilly. Fresh after the San Bernadino attack, the main thing he was worrying about was a backlash against good American Muslims. Proves that it’s easy to be better than Michael Moore, but it don’t mean that’s good enough.
gravenimage says
All too true. Sometimes Bill O’Reilly seemed to get it about the threat of Islam–at least in part–and sometimes he was as clueless as any other dhimmi.
roberta says
I gotta raise my hand on the grim humor thing. Im guilty. Europeans are such smug condescending buttheads.
Its their fault, they let the wolves in the house.
But Im still stupid enough to want to help them. Misguided empathy I guess.
eduardo odraude says
Not misguided. Anyway, even out of pure self-interest, the US, to survive over the long run, needs Europe to remain free.
gravenimage says
Agreed, Eduardo. Even if one cared nothing for Europeans–and I do–a fully Islamized Europe would be one of the greatest threats to the world imaginable.
Save Europe says
Roberta –
Respectfully – please, firstly DO NOT group all Europeans together. Secondly, distinguish between idiotic Leftists from non Leftists. Thus, show some respect for those who voted for Brexit, and for those who voted for –
Sweden Democrats
PVV in the Netherlands
Matteo Salvini in Italy
Kurz in Austria
Vlaams Belang in Belgium
AfD in Germany
Viktor Orban in Hungary….
Yes, I’m happy to attack European Leftists, as I’m happy to attack American Leftists. You’ve shown ill knowledge and prejudice. Stay on the page! We support you. Show some sense and support us.
roberta says
I have certainly shown prejudice, but it did not come from ill knowledge.
My time spent on your side of the world was an education.
Some of you are decent enough people.
Like it or not, Im aware we are in this together. I think you know that most US citizens are concerned about Europe’s political, cultural and religious plight.
The European left and the American left are the same people, the same movement. I hate every last Globalist one of them, and the parasites they
have allowed into civil society.
Save Europe says
Let’s stay on the same page Roberta, as I sadly estimate every Western country has almost 50 percent Liberal vile Leftists in their countries.
You’re correct! It’s a fight between the likes of you and me versus the likes of nutters who exist in the Vatican, Hollywood, to Jeremy Corbyn, Trudeau, and Hitlery Clinton.
My best – a fellow Patriot ?
LR says
Save Europe…
Oh, forget ‘Hitlery’, she is old news…We now have AOC, Kamala Harris, Gilibrand, etc. The now elected hijab wearing women like Omar get a lot of ignorant lefties all excited about how much ‘progress’ we’ve made. Not all though. There are those ‘lefties’ that hate Islam because they know the history. The problem is getting people to speak up, and fight the PC madness.
gravenimage says
Good post, Save Europe.
Save Europe says
Thanks G.
My utter support for everyone in every Western country who is against inane Liberal Globalist Leftism and Islam.
Always ?
eduardo odraude says
Just a few months ago, I asked a Swedish woman — perhaps she was 60 — visiting the US about troubles in Sweden lately due to migrants. All she could respond was how Trump is bad. “There are no problems in Sweden” she insisted. “Sweden is still an excellent country.” I didn’t pursue the conversation, though I would have liked to ask her other questions.
The slowest to learn are those who think themselves enlightened and sophisticated. That may be why Sweden, perhaps more than any other European nation, is circling the drain or may soon be doing so. Many Swedes consider themselves a “moral superpower.” Well, that “moral superpower”, due to its irresponsible behavior in letting in huge numbers of Muslims, is on the cusp of destroying freedom in Sweden. Except when weak, Islam generally does not permit freedom of speech or freedom of religion. But too many “sophisticated” and “enlightened” Swedes are too ignorant of Islam to know such elementary facts. That is just stupid and narcissistic.
Wellington says
Had the same experience, eduardo, with a Swedish woman back in 2014 in New York City when I brought up all the problems Muslims were creating in her country (and, of course, it’s gotten even worse since then) and she was absolutely clueless. She manifested a blank stare at me, as though I had just said, “Men from Mars have landed.”
There’s something terribly wrong with Sweden and, not far behind, if behind at all, can be counted many other Western European countries. Fortunately, many Eastern European nations (which would not include Russia which never learns and is only half-European anyway) are quite aware of Islam’s many nefarious dictates and, what an historical irony if in this present morass which Europe as a whole is in due to miscalculation about Islam, Eastern Europe, traditionally behind Western Europe in sundry ways, now becomes the “guide” to all of Europe respecting how to extricate said continent from a belief system which has no respect for what Europe, the cradle of the West, developed (e.g., women’s rights) and which the Islamic world surely did not—fun, music, pictorial art, a true Golden Rule for all, fine pork products and alcohol being six very other important “developments” that can be credited to the West that the stupid Islamic world (and yes, it’s very stupid) remains to this day hostile to.
Amazing how much the Western world has achieved over the past 800 years or so compared to the Islamic world over the same time period. Rather like the difference between an NFL game versus a high school football game (with no demeaning meant to high school football per this comparison but with demeaning definitely meant to Islam).
Hope you are doing well. Take care. Time for a ham sandwich, a Beethoven symphony (ah, which one?) and a glass of porter, none of which the Islamic world could have created nor to this day could appreciate (indeed, many Muslims would kill you for enjoying anyone of these, which only confirms my take and yours about Mo’s decrepit creed in general). Sorry for the long post but my blood was up.
Terry Gain says
A better comparison is Israel and its Arab neighbours.
Kepha says
Russia never learns, and is only half-European anyway…Russia is the West’s idiot half-sister (P.J. O’Rourke, there). Dunno. Seeing how Europe was thinking not too long ago, I wonder if Russia’s bouts of sanity might not be from its Eastern Mediterranean Christian piety mixed with a bit of Mongol and Tatar toughness. Sarc.
It deeply disturbs me how little the West’s dominant cultural, political, legal, and academic elites are interested in protecting the heritage that made them; and are quick to try to bend over backwards to please the wonderful folks who brought us 9/11.
Kepha says
@Peter35 (5:36 pm) I also think the changes in Russia need to be carefully watched with other than Cold War glasses (and I’m of the mind that the Cold War was inevitable, given what Communist ideology was). While I am not Eastern Orthodox, I believe that Putin’s reconciliation with the Orthodox Church, and the reclamation of Russia’s Christian heritage after 70 years of imposed Marism-Leninism is highly significant. At the same time, I am deeply bothered by prods and pokes at the Baltics, and of course the play for a goodly chunk of Ukraine. But much of this could well be the outworking of old-fashioned nationalism.
gravenimage says
Peter, Putin is indeed an “excellent leader” if you like authoritarian semi-dictators who appease Islam. Otherwise, not so much…
christianblood says
Kepha
Please watch the brief talk about the subject about muslims in Russia and how it differs from that of the West. The root of the problem lies the spiritual bankruptcy of the West:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYnphmKkOhU
gravenimage says
Peter, there is no doubt that Putin is hard on his own people. But when it comes to appeasing Islam–enabling a nuclear Iran, opening mega-Mosques with Islamic dictators in Russia, and allowing Chechnya to impose Shari’ah law on Russian soil, he is as bad or worse as most leaders in the West.
And no–I don’t believe that it was inevitable that Russia become another dictatorship after the fall of the Soviet Union. There was a brief period when it looked as though it was possible for her to become a free nation.
gravenimage says
christianblood has said before that it is fine if Muslims impose Shari’ah in Russia and slaughter Russians in Jihad and it does not matter, because Russians are so much more spiritual than are Westerners.
Unlike him, I don’t want to see Russians suffer under Islam.
christianblood says
gravenimage
These crazy stuff you are talking about doesn’t exist in Russia! You are totally mistaken and ignorant, Graven! Russia is NOT Sweden or the West so please stop projecting!
gravenimage says
christianblood’s claim that there is no Jihad or Shari’ah in Russia is of course *quite* false–and he knows that this to be the case:
“Video from Russia: Muslim deliberately plows car into Moscow crowd, eight injured”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/06/video-from-russia-muslim-deliberately-plows-car-into-moscow-crowd-eight-injured
“Chechen authorities accused of ordering families to kill their LGBT family members”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2019/01/chechen-authorities-accused-of-ordering-families-to-kill-their-lgbt-family-members
There are, of course, many, many more such ugly stories.
When I have pointed this out to christianblood, he has said that it does not matter because Russians are so much more spiritual than anyone in the West–so Shari’ah and Jihad there are just fine.
vlparker says
Third, Fifth and Seventh are Beethoven’s best, IMHO.
christianblood says
Wellington posted
(… Fortunately, many Eastern European nations (which would not include Russia which never learns and is only half-European anyway) are quite aware of Islam’s many nefarious…)
That is indeed a very ignorant statement! Russia dealt with islamists for hundreds of years, even before U$A was even a nation, liberating many Eastern European countries from the clutches of Ottoman islamists and losing tens of thousands of its brave soldiers in the process!
And what did modern America and its Nato vassals do? They sided with islamists, the remnants of Ottomans, bombed Christian Serbs, established two islamic states (Kosovo & Bosnia) in Eastern Europe and asssted the KLS jihadist buddies in the destruction of hundreds of ancient Serbian monasteries and churches! Shame on you Wellington! As most Americans are, You have absolutely NO clue of what you are talking about!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHSav7TbYBM
gravenimage says
Yes–Russia, along with the Austro-Hungarians–did help free parts of Eastern Europe from the crumbling Ottoman Empire in the 19th century–something to be proud of.
Recently, though, they have mostly been playing footsie with and appeasing Muslims, both at home and abroad, which are very bad policies.
These policies, however, have been lauded by christianblood here many times.
gravenimage says
Good exchange, Eduardo, Peter, and Wellington.
vlparker says
Minnesota is full of Swedes and the expats are doing to Minnesota what the natives are doing to Sweden. I don’t know what it is about Europeans and progressivism, but they sure seem to dislike the concept of individual liberty. Thirty two years ago a friend and I were at the Oktoberfest in Munich and everybody there, as soon as they realized we were Americans, urged us to vote for Dukakis. It was over a year before the election and that was the first thing out of everyone’s mouth. It was ridiculous.
A_M_Swallow says
Islam is a desert religion. Sweden is an agricultural and industrial country with very deep snow in winter. Cut off oil and food supplies. The Swedes can grow their own food but the Muslims cannot.The Muslims can however steal food.
Use the winter snow to separate the towns. The easiest way to do that is drive the snow ploughs away in October. The ferries can join them in Germany when the siege begins. In November empty the warehouses. About 3 weeks after the food runs out Muslims will start surrendering, have camps with food waiting for them.
eduardo odraude says
The problem is not a technical one of “how to do it.” It is a political and ideological and cultural one. If the native Swedes were determined to save their country, they would not need snow plows. They could simply stop immigration from Muslim nations, kick out all non-citizens, control the borders, and pay Muslim citizens to give up their citizenship and leave. But maybe there are a lot of Swedes who think it is noble to commit suicide as a culture, since the West, as every bien pensant pc person knows, is the root of all evil.
James Lincoln says
Eduardo,
You stated : “The problem is not a technical one of “how to do it.” It is a political and ideological and cultural one.”
That is an absolute “spot on” analysis. Compare the mindset of the Swedish leadership
with the mindset of the Polish or Hungarian leadership, for example.
Assistance from NATO could, perhaps, solve – or at least contain – Sweden’s problems with Muslim migrants in the short term.
But unless you change the mindset of the Swedish people, the problems that they have now would soon return after NATO stands down.
As I’ve said before, many Swedes would rather lose their country that be called racist, Xenophobic, Islamophobic, blah, blah, blah, etc.
They, unbelievably, continue to tolerate the intolerance of Islam.
gravenimage says
+1
A_M_Swallow says
Preventing the enemy getting reinforcements is a good military strategy. Since new Muslims have to come via a bridge, boat or plane to an airport such a ban is within the power of the Swedish Government.
However there are more Muslims than police and soldiers in Sweden so a mass kick out is beyond its power using normal civilian techniques. The Muslims are an organised gang, so show by TV crews they can arrange for a hundred or so men to turn up within minutes. Successful military attacks normally need a 3 to 1 advantage. So the Swedish army will need an entire regiment to clear a block of Muslims. That is why I suggest siege warfare.
Note: In practice only the Swedish Government and army can order the warehouses to be emptied.
gravenimage says
Sweden is still majority-Infidel. The Swedes could indeed stop Muslim immigration and start deportations if they had the will.
Terry Gain says
I am not swallowing your snow job. 🙂
Any serious attempt to save Sweden would start with an immediate ban on further Muslim immigration. But nothing can be done until Sweden first acknowledges that it has a problem.
gravenimage says
True, Terry.
Max says
The voters have the politicians that they deserve. They did it to themselves by electing a radical leftist that want to transform Sweden into a Sharia law country. Did the voters think that political correctness is costless? They have received the bill now.
Wellington says
Yes, Max, every country has the government they deserve. I agree.
Sweden sure does right now. My greater fear is that his can be said of so many other Western nations, the leadership in which is, generally speaking, beyond pathetic. Actually, in many instances, it has become lethal—in Sweden and elsewhere.
vlparker says
Well, I sure as hell don’t have the representative or Senators that I deserve. 50.1 percent of the people can ruin it for the other 49.9 percent.
vlparker says
Well I sure as hell don’t have the representative and Senators I deserve. 50.1 percent can ruin it for the other 49.9 percent.
Wellington says
Even a bare majority of fools in a nation is indicative that not enough was done to insure that a bare majority of fools didn’t occur in the first place. A nation that is 50.1% foolish is a nation that should have planned better, educated better, etc. to prevent such a reality and thus, in effect, deserves what it gets.
Don McKellar says
NEWS FOR THE SWEDES: IT’S ONLY GOING TO GET WORSE LIKE A SNOWBALL DOWNHILL! All of history in every country where such a thing has developed shows that. What we are going to see here is the first of the civil wars to take place in Europe.
NATO? Ha. As others have said, they won’t do a damn thing. What will determine a free Sweden or an enslaved sharia Sweden will be the number of Swedes who rise up and do something.
Rufolino says
The Swedes will adapt to sharia without much difficulty. A few might resist. Most Swedes will see it as outstanding multiculturalism.
Queen Rex says
Yet the leftist forces of the Swedish political machine closed ranks . Locking out the Swedish Democrats the only party that dares talks about ways to tackle the chaos. There will be civil war in Swedenand it’s highly unlikely that the native Swedes will win. This is the beginning of a long list of European countries that will be engaged in civil war. All brought on by unfettered Muslim Immigration . Lacking the gonads to enforce assimilation has led to a hostile nation within a nation . Which can only result in all out conflict. It’s abundantly clear that these nations can’t even enforce daily law and order. Leading to the clear assumption they won’t fare well in a civil war either.
A_M_Swallow says
Part of the problem was the Swedish politicians were too naive and did not see the Muslim problem coming. However when they closed ranks they knew the problem and were assisting it, making them evil collaborators. Collaborators need to be severely punished to discourage the rest.
Tell the Swedish politicians to remember the fate of Norwegian political collaborator Vidkun Quisling.
Equality means equal pay and equal punishment.
Raja says
The fight between Pro sharia and anti sharia is an example of how the world if confronting the good and the bad, the bad being Islamic conquest by hook or by crook(sharia included).
This “war” was being played out during cold war (USSR) or at the time of Tienanmen Square clampdown and various other events. Those were the times when most of the world was almost paranoid.
Today, the people have lost the mental balance to discern the difference between the good and the bad thanks to excessive Left orientation of public in general and the elites who follow the Leftist doctrines as word of “God”. At stake is global balance which was and is always delicately balanced (on rather thin wire).
I can only see more destruction with the West mollycoddling with stupid and evil ideas (Islam) and losing every bit of commonsense.
Romans 12:9
Let love be without hypocrisy. Abhor what is evil; cling to what is good.
gravenimage says
Yes–it is crucial to distinguish between good and evil.
Hans Wellington says
Sweden cannot be helped anymore. They will never admit that with their do gooder attitude they have ruined their country. The only solution would be to close all borders in and out Sweden and drive anyone crossing into neighboring countries back to Sweden.
Peter WF says
Let the “experiment” continue. Perhaps the EU government will learn something.
If anything, call in the pope is my suggestion.
simpleton1 says
What do Swedes want?
Do they know? Do they agree?
Just look at how they have voted for about a decade.
Do the Swedes believe that Swedish culture is worth preserving?
If they can not give an answer then there is no point of NATO helping.
It would seem that many Swedes will put the ones against islam to the sword and burka.
Though touted highly it is only a low minority number seemed to be concerned enough to vote against immigration.
Just what does NATO it self support? Multi cultural, political correct, with muslim soldiers and officers, will support who? what? with the control by intellectual elitists in other countries.
Just what will there goals be.
Would those “foreign” soldiers want to sacrifice their blood for principles of “humanity” 🙂
Rules of Engagement, oh that would be if any one said they did not support some koranic principle could be shot on sight?
For others that immediately put down their weapons get a free pass, like in Afghanistan. 🙂
What laws, what community would Nato actually back?
Swedes need to internet, spread knowledge and truth, to change minds, and decide, to whether to accept islam’s invitation, and surrender as you have been, or resist in all the ways they can, with truth and fight.
The balls in your court Swedes, if you have any.
You need to know your culture, ideology and the politics of your selves and islam, to achieve the change and to win out.
Kilfincelt says
I have a friend who lives in a small town in southern Sweden. She is an American but her children are Swedes. Her daughter’s husband is very anti-immigration. When I spoke to him several years ago, he was not happy about all the immigrants coming in. Unfortunately, he isn’t in a position to do much about it. By the way my friend is a Trump supporter although a number of Swedes are not.
The basic problem is that Western European countries have a number of socialist programs and their populations are aging. The initial thought process of the political elite in those countries was that they needed more young working to support their socialist systems. Thus, they imported them and turned a blind eye to to the fact that the majority of the immigrants came from a culture that was totally incompatible with Western Civilization. Of course, the other part of the problem was the completely erroneous belief that all cultures were equal and that Western Civilization created most of the problems in the world so it was evil and had to be destroyed.
Kepha says
Hmmm. A Swedish guy is very “anti-immigrant”, yet his mother-in-law is an American who settled in Sweden? Is this the mother of all mother-in-law v. son-in-law problems? sarc
Richard Courtemanche says
I didn’t Sweden was part of NATO! Anyhow, banish present socialist government and prosecute its members for stupidity and treason.
Sam says
We need to help ourselves first. We have in America half the population who wants SOCIALISM. Socialism and Islam are in bed to destroy America and we will help Sweden so they can bring more Muslims to Europe?
Answer is no. Plus Sweden is not capable of understanding what is good and what is evil anymore. Let the most “liberated” Swedish women handle Sweden.
Black Eagle says
Until the Swedes cut their welfare for Muslim invaders, start using their own military force to quell street riots, start deporting the preachers of violence and closing radical mosques, and THEN are overwhelmed, nobody should consider coming to their aid with outside military force. They have the military, but refuse to use it. They could easily arm a large population with weapons, legalize gun sales for legal citizens, and many other things. None of it is getting done. They love the Muslims, hate freedom, and their men-folk have lost their spines.
christianblood says
Peter35 posted
(…Kepha, everyone seems to be jumping on Russia these days, but I have to admit the country is a ‘mystery wrapped in an enigma’ to me; certainly I’m not going to take the view of FOX NEWS and several here, that Russia is the enemy…)
Well-said! Let us go back and see the recent historical roots of the tension between the US/West and Russia. Please start watching the video below from 0:58 mark:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLRvQ_-IQVs
gravenimage says
christianblood keeps posting this, saying that the only reason there have ever been stresses between Russia and the West is because after East Germany was able to gain freedom from the Iron Curtain, that the West had supposedly told Russia that no other country would be allowed to be free, and that the West reneged.
Hard to know where to start with these ugly and ludicrous prevarications, nor with the unpleasant assumptions behind them. *Ugh*.
Kepha says
The elder Bush begged the Ukrainians not to secede back in 1991. We recognized the Baltic States only because we never recognized Stalin’s annexation of those countries in 1939 (in cahoots with A. May-his-name-rot Hitler).
And, if East Germany broke free from the Soviet fold, who would’ve been able to stop the Poles, Czechs, Slovaks, and Hungarians, for whom becoming Soviet satellites was not exactly an uncoerced choice?
There are points where I agree with christianblood. For some time, I have also believed that Western elites are spiritually bankrupt. I don’t think that trying to keep Russia as an enemy is diplomatically constructive. Fewer rather than more US interventions overseas would be better. The country that gave Dostoevsky, Pushkin, Chekhov, Tolstoi, Solzhenitsyn, Voinovich, Sinyavsky, and other to letters, or Lobochevsky and Mendeleev to the sciences, and many greats to music is far from barbaric. But I cannot share christianblood’s uncritical stance towards Russia and its allies.
Tim says
Everything you say is true. This is why we MUST maintain the 2nd Amendment.
jule says
Because they see it as Allahs way for Islam to teach Swedes the True Religion. They are already taught that they, the Muslims are superior to all the primitive rest of the world. They completely believe Swedes should be grateful to be taken by Islam. The ones I have read as commenters already call sweden a state of Islam.
Gordon R. Kissinger says
NO! Those naive liberal socialist/communist fools have brought all that multi-cultural b.s. on themselves.