Zionists are accused of being unable to have sympathy for the victims of the New Zealand massacre. Can anyone imagine a Christian or Jewish organization expressing such sentiments toward Muslims in a similar scenario? This is a consequence of supremacist indoctrination and the view that anyone who accepts the right of Jews to have a Jewish state is an enemy. Israel is not a regime that aims to oppress Palestinians as is claimed, but a country that has simply been trying to survive against an ongoing jihad since 1948.
“The Muslim community doesn’t accept condolences, sympathies from Zionists,” The Documentation Project, Jonathan Halevi, March 23, 2019:
On March 22-23, 2019 three Muslim Facebook groups in Canada – Calgary Muslims, Deen Toronto GTA and Deen Canada Media – shared the following statement:
“The Muslim community does not accept condolences or sympathies from Zionists. #NewZealandMuslims”
The Facebook posts included a video featuring Imran Salha, an imam at ICA Islamic Cultural Association of Michigan, who rejects Zionists’ solidarity with Muslims following the massacre in two mosques in New Zealand. Salha was a speaker at a “Vigil for Christchurch Mosque” hosted on March 19, 2019 the by Muslim Law Association of Windsor at Windsor University in Ontario.
Here is the transcript of Imran Salha’s Video:
I surely want to get this video out there and I’m tagging SJP [Student for Justice in Palestine] at Windsor University as well as the Windsor University MSA [Muslim Students Association]. I want to get a message out there to those who are shy to call out the Zionists occupation and at a time where they supposedly are showing a solitary for what happened in New Zealand [Christchurch mosque shootings]. Listen, okay, if you’re going to come and show me solidarity for 50 Muslims that were killed in New Zealand and then you support a regime, okay, that is occupying land, killing people on the daily and killing innocent civilians much more than just 50 people, then your solidarity is hypocritical, it’s contradictory and it’s just plain old fake, okay. I saw somebody commenting on the video of my speech at the vigil saying that, you know, we were there to show support because of, you know, because we know what it means to be attacked in our own house of worship. Well, you know what? Just, you know, last week you guys, the Zionist regime that you support, closed, you know, the doors on Al-Aqsa Mosque [المسجد الاقصى] and they did not allow them to pray the sunset [المغرب] prayer or the evening [العشاء] prayer, okay, you know. You’re going to tell me you know what it means? What about Al-Aqsa Mosque [المسجد الاقصى] doesn’t allow for Muslims and all of their restrictions on the Muslims who try to pray in one of their sacred places of worship. So please don’t play that game on me and for the Muslims who were called me out and saying that I shouldn’t have said what I said, listen, don’t play yourself, okay, you know, be stronger than that. Have some backbone….
Jayme says
I think 2019 will be the year of huge issues between the Muslim and Jewish communitys in Canada you have The Star and Cbc backing hard core Muslim groups which will only create fare bigger issues.
Michael Garant says
Add the lieberal parties (provinces included) , La Presse, all papers of the capital médias group who are the parrots for La Presse and the lieberal party. Probably most of the other media in the Rest of Canada….all puppets of extreme multiculturalism and incompatible mass migration.
mortimer says
Ahmed Bhamji, the chairman of the Mt. Roskill Masjid E Umar in New Zealand, says that MOSSAD caused the attacks in New Zealand. Yes, MOSSAD.
So, now you know, because he made an unsubstantiated CLAIM … and did Bhamji ever tell a lie before?
If you don’t believe Ahmed Bhamji you are an Islamophobe.
(sarc/off)
https://clarionproject.org/nz-muslim-leader-mossad-behind-attack/?utm_source=Clarion+Project+Newsletter&utm_campaign=32248f5c29-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2019_03_17_12_03_COPY_02&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_60abb35148-32248f5c29-5904061&mc_cid=32248f5c29&mc_eid=dcdefe67aa
gravenimage says
Good post, Mortimer.
christianblood says
Jews in the West, whether liberal or not are always very eager to sympathize with and condole islamists but they NEVER, EVER EXTEND THAT SAME TENDERNESS TO PERSECUTED CHRISTIANS!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=sHLWjvssAag
mortimer says
You are a liar and a genocidist and a fascist. You are a BloodthirstyPseudochristian.
christianblood says
mortimer
Prove me wrong!
CRUSADER says
Historian Ralph Ellis says in this video, the Koran is an instruction manual for the murder on non-muslims.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooEAH23LUwc#action=share
gravenimage says
What a load of crap from christianblood.
Here’s FrontPage Magazine, run by David Horowitz:
“Persecution of Christians”
https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/269050/persecution-christians-and-its-causes-jack-kerwick
And this, from Pamela Geller:
“Genocide Threatening Nigeria’s Christians”
https://gellerreport.com/2019/03/islamic-genocide-christians-nigeria.html/
Other recent stories by her include the persecution of Christians in Pakistan, the ten worst nations for Christian persecution, and the fact that Christians are the most persecuted group in the world.
This story, from Caroline Glick at Jewish World Review:
“The forgotten Christians of the East”
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/1011/glick101111.php3#.XJv4iP1KjIU
There are many more examples of Jewish concern over violent oppression of Christians.
And christianblood recently called Dr. Daniel Pipes a “Jew who hates Russia” for expressing concern over Jihad terror there.
christianblood says
gravenimage
I have great respect for Pamela Geller! She is a true warrior!
Respect for Daniel Pipes and David Horowitz: as well!
Frank Gafney too! There are very few individual exceptions here and there which is few and far between but generally speaking the silence of Western Jewish and Christians over the persecution of Christians is deafeningly criminal! For instance, you see Hollywood, mainly Jewish organization conferring Oscars on Al-Qaeda “White Helmets” that have the blood of Syrian Christians in their hands!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_MZKRG3frQ
gravenimage says
If christianblood has respect for all these Jewish Anti-Jihadists then why would he have said what he said above about Jews?
As for christianblood’s supposed respect for Dr. Pipes, here’s what he had to say after I cited Pipe’s concern about the mushrooming rate of Muslim population growth in Russia:
gravenimage
Don’t believe what Daniel Pipes or any other Jew writes about Russia! Jews really hate Russia for two reasons: For its unapologetic, public Christianity and for its rejection of Western cultural globalistic relativism that Jews are aggressively pushing in the West! Jews really, really hate Russia historically did so!
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2019/02/germany-muslim-migrant-strikes-12-year-old-girl-on-her-buttocks-says-i-am-entitled-to-do-this#comment-2061868
This doesn’t sound like respect to me–more like unhinged antisemitism.
christianblood says
gravenimage
My word stand and you can’t prove me wrong!
Apart from the very few anti-jihadist Jews individuals mentioned above Jews in general, liberal or otherwise do express sympathies for muslims and “LGBTQ” consider them as victims with BUT THEY WOULD NEVER SHOW THE SAME SYMPATHIES FOR THE PERSECUTED CHRISTIANS!
In the same way, many millions of Evangelical Christians in the US that are so fanatically pro-Israel wouldn’t lift a finger to help persecuted Christians! Those hypocritical Evangelical Christians reject the command of Christ to love and help Christians in distress but they follow their own political philosophy which is to love some nation state even-though Christ never commanded them to do so! Christ did not command Christians to love some national state or some country but to love and support Christians in their hour of distress. (St. Matthew 25:31-46).
gravenimage says
christianblood wrote:
gravenimage
My word stand and you can’t prove me wrong!
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How does christianblood’s words stand? First he said that “Jews in the West, whether liberal or not are always very eager to sympathize with and condole islamists but they NEVER, EVER EXTEND THAT SAME TENDERNESS TO PERSECUTED CHRISTIANS!” and alex and I proved that wrong.
Then christianblood said that he respects Daniel Pipes, and I proved that wrong.
So it seems that christianblood really doesn’t have anything to stand on here.
More:
Apart from the very few anti-jihadist Jews individuals mentioned above Jews in general, liberal or otherwise do express sympathies for muslims and “LGBTQ” consider them as victims with BUT THEY WOULD NEVER SHOW THE SAME SYMPATHIES FOR THE PERSECUTED CHRISTIANS!
………………….
I have already shown numerous times on this thread that this is not true–and these are not just a handful of Anti-Jihadists, but include the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews and the Roman Jewish community working with the Catholic Community of Sant’ Egidio. There are many more examples.
More:
In the same way, many millions of Evangelical Christians in the US that are so fanatically pro-Israel wouldn’t lift a finger to help persecuted Christians!
………………….
This is also claptrap.
Here is American Vice President Mike Pence, a supporter of Israel:
“Pence: America will prioritize protecting Christians abroad”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2017/05/11/pence-america-will-prioritize-protecting-christians-abroad/
And here is the Evangelical Christian Post:
“‘Listen to Their Cry’: Churches Worldwide Take Part in Day of Prayer for Persecuted Christians'”
https://www.christianpost.com/news/listen-to-their-cry-churches-worldwide-day-of-prayer-for-persecuted-christians.html
Again, there are many more examples.
More:
Those hypocritical Evangelical Christians reject the command of Christ to love and help Christians in distress but they follow their own political philosophy which is to love some nation state even-though Christ never commanded them to do so! Christ did not command Christians to love some national state or some country but to love and support Christians in their hour of distress. (St. Matthew 25:31-46).
………………….
Again, the implication that Christians should condemn a nation that gives Christians equal rights and want to see them persecuted and murdered is just grotesque.
And the idea that these verses from Matthew are a call to abandon Jews to murder is quite false–it is, instead, a call for charity.
And the idea that one cannot both support persecuted Christians *and* threatened Jews is ludicrous. Neither Robert Spencer nor anyone else here has a problem doing this.
In the end, christianblood cannot back up any of his assertions–but when has this ever stopped him before?
gravenimage says
Here is another Jewish Anti-Jihadist who has come to the defense of persecuted Christians:
“Bethlehem’s Persecuted Christians”
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/14208/holiday-read-bethlehems-persecuted-christians/
christianblood says
gravenimage
You know and any sensible person knows and understands that the overwhelming majority of Jews in the West (except very, very few anti-jihadist individuals among them, like ones mentioned above) would fraternize and consort with Islamists and the “LGBTQ” and see them as victims but would NEVER extend that kind of sympathetic hand to persecuted Christians world wide!
Now, call me names and label me as much as you want, but my Truth stands! Period!
Bella says
You’re a liar. There are Christian and Jewish communities that reject and are disgusted by what is happening in the Middle East and Europe. I am a witness to this.
christianblood says
Bella
Jews have no love for the persecuted Christians anywhere!
Heck, forget about the Jews, the so-called “Christians” in the West have NO love for persecuted Christians and their secular governments in the West support and even arm the very muslim jihadists that are persecuting and mass-murdering Christians! For instance, many millions of Evangelical Christians in the US who have extreme and fanatical love for Israel would not lift a finger when it comes to persecuted Christians around the globe! They are hell-bound hypocrites who disobey the noble commandments of the Christ when He said:
(…A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another…) (St. John 13:34-35)
Jesus commanded His true followers, not love Israel or any other nation state but to love other Christians who are parts of His body AND DO GOOD FOR THEM! Read the eternal words of Christ as He extensively addressed this very issue in (St. Matthew 25:31-46) where at the last day, He will separate true Christians who loved and helped other Christians than the false Christians who didn’t!
gravenimage says
Where to start? Firstly, the claim that Western Christians hate Christians is belied by the existence of this very site. Is christianblood claiming that Robert Spencer hates Christians?
Then, the idea that Jesus wants hatred against Israel–the only nation in the Middle East that *doesn’t* persecute Christians–is just grotesque. But then, christianblood has lauded Muslims who seek the destruction of Israel before, regularly screaming “God bless Hezb’allah!”.
alex says
Christianblood: you are not very well informed. In Canada, there is a conservative Jewish reporter/author named Ezra Levant, who has been highly outspoken in his support of Christians who have been facing persecution in Muslim-majority countries and elsewhere. Perhaps you should do some more research, before making sweeping generalizations about Jews or any other group.
christianblood says
alex
You are right! Ezra is one of a kind in the way he speaks about persecution of Christians. Ezra is unique and but he is really, really the lone voice out there! May God bless him! I have a great respect for him and even met him in person!
gravenimage says
Alex, thanks for citing the inimitable Ezra Levant.
gravenimage says
I see that christianblood is still ignoring David Horowitz, Pamela Geller, and Caroline Glick.
And if has actually met Ezra Levant in person then he already knew that his claim about all Jews not supporting persecuted Christians was false.
Here are more stories:
“Christian-Jewish Group Launches Campaign to Help Persecuted Mideast Christians”
http://www.ifcj.org/who-we-are/press-room/christian-jewish-group.html
“The International Fellowship of Christians and Jews is raising $100,000 to aid targeted minorities, including Egypt’s Coptic Christians.”
“Disappearing Christians in the Middle East”
http://www.danielpipes.org/1050/disappearing-christians-in-the-middle-east
“Roman Jews Show Support for Nigerian Schoolgirls, Persecuted Christians”
https://forward.com/news/breaking-news/198076/roman-jews-show-support-for-nigerian-schoolgirls-p/
I could cite many, many more stories.
None of this, of course, will stop the appalling christianblood from his calumny against Jews, nor his applauding those who want to destroy Israel and commit genocide against Jews.
CogitoErgoSum says
Let me repeat …..You know? (He forgot to put that at the end.)
CRUSADER says
Valerie Price of ACT! For Canada speaks at the Global Compact Rally
https://vimeo.com/305395999
Jack Cade says
Muslims are so full of hate and lies, they cannot perceive empathy. Muslims follow the doctrine of Satan as laid down by a lying, looting, raping, murdering, psychotic paedophile. I will provide Islamic sourced evidence of everything I’ve written if a Muslim barrow calls me a liar.
gravenimage says
Thanks for that link, CRUSADER.
CRUSADER says
Commend you for going toe to toe with christianblood.
Wondering if it is worth it, however, Graven Image.
gravenimage says
I’m pretty sick of it, CRUSADER. But if christianblood is not countered it just emboldens him, and he is even worse.
James Lincoln says
“The Muslim community does not accept condolences or sympathies from Zionists. #NewZealandMuslims”
If the Muslim community wants to be totally consistent, they should not avail themselves to the many fantastic Israeli medical discoveries over the past decades.
This should help to keep their cognitive dissonance at bay.
mortimer says
Exactly … such ‘cognitive dissonance’. It is such cognitive dissonance that is making many Muslims abandon Islam. Islam is seen to be in direct contradiction of common sense, morality, history, logic and science. If Mohammed and his companions were so stupid … why follow them? Mohammed and his amoral 7th century hoodlums have NOTHING to teach us today. Muslims can learn NOTHING valuable from them.
CRUSADER says
“The Most HONEST Arab” about Islam and Moslem “contributions” :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9ZSII3qADI
gravenimage says
+1
PABLO says
People from every other religious faith can come to the west and get along, but Islamist. They are the problem/common denominator in every country, whether that country has a black or white majority; then they turn around and claim Islamophobia BS. I don’t hear about Hinduphobia, Sikhophobia and so on…
gravenimage says
True, Pablo.
Jayme says
People in Ontario find posters that say its ok to be white awful now The Star and Cbc have gone as far to call it hate as I guess in there minds its not ok to be white but hey lets welcome Isis with open arms.
Older Canadian says
Yes it is disturbing. They claim it is supremacist group doing it, and maybe it is I don’t know. It does appear though if you are white and not ashamed of it you are classified as a supremacist. Sort of a no win situation…unfortunately for all.
somehistory says
This creep…with the problem of grammar, “okay”…lives in the U.S. If wishes were plane tickets and forced expulsions, he would be on his way to iran or somewhere, “okay.”
He lied throughout, claiming that Israel is the one attacking “daily.” And that isn’t ‘Okay.”
And the Jews never do get to pray on the Temple Mount area and are frequently attacked by his “kind” at the Wall when praying there.
He deserves no sympathy. And neither do those moslims blaming Israel for what happened in NZ.
gravenimage says
Canada: Three Muslim Facebook groups reject Zionist condolences for New Zealand massacre
……………….
Disgusting but no surprise.
sidney penny says
What is Muslim Law Association of Windsor
(at Windsor University in Ontario.)
What do they do?
Why do you need a Muslim Law Association in Canada?
What is wrong with Canadian Law?
Why do you need Muslim Law in Canada ?
Would it be the same if you called it Sharia Law Association of Windsor?
David M says
“Facebook imposes ban on white nationalism after massacre.”
So after the next massacre of infidels by a Muslim in the name of Islam Facebook will impose a ban on support of Islam? I don’t think they will.
https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/https-www-smh-com-au-business-companies-facebook-extends-ban-on-hate-speech-to-white-nationalists-20190328-p518br-html-20190328-p518c9.html
Lydia Church says
Looks like someone is suffering from a bad case of a widespread epidemic that is spreading….
called….
Zionophobia!!!
Dun-dun-daaaah!
Battle says
“Zionophobia” Lydia Church hits nail on head. Good one.
Battle says
Calgary Muslims, Deen Islam GTA, Deen Canada Media, Imam Sasha Islamic Cultural Association Michigan and Muslim Law Association Windsor are JihadI Jew-Haters.
Battle says
Not Imam Saaha, is Imam Imran Salra.