“Dutch author and sociologist Ruud Koopmans said this week that Muslims are more difficult to integrate into Western society than other migrant groups because of a literal interpretation of the Quran prevalent among Muslims.”
Koopmans called this a “threat to world peace.” Most Muslims agree that “Muslims should return to the roots of Islam,” while a whopping “75 percent think there is only one interpretation of the Qur’an possible to which every Muslim should stick.” That interpretation is normative Islam, and the one that resulted in over 11 million Muslims being murdered for not being Muslim enough since 1948, along with innumerable non-Muslims. It’s also the same interpretation that for a millennium and more has divided the world into two camps: the House of War (Infidel countries) and the House of Islam (Islamic countries), with the mandate that the latter must conquer the former.
Jihad Watch and other organizations that support the principles of free society in the West have been warning about these truths for a long time, while Leftists and Islamic supremacists work to obscure them and continue to erode the foundations of societies that are built on human rights and freedom. It is key to understanding the global jihad to accept the fact that the jihad imperative is rooted in Islamic doctrine. Understanding this will enable the West to stand firmly for freedom and establish sensible policies, including an end to the open-door immigration that advances the hijrah (jihad by immigration).
“Islamic Scholar: No Western Country Has Successfully Integrated Muslims,” by Thomas D. Williams, Breitbart, March 8, 2019:
Dutch author and sociologist Ruud Koopmans said this week that Muslims are more difficult to integrate into Western society than other migrant groups because of a literal interpretation of the Quran prevalent among Muslims.
Ruud Koopmans, professor at the Berlin Social Science Center and author of several books including Contested Citizenship: Immigration and Cultural Diversity in Europe, told the Danish newspaper Berlingske that whereas most groups of migrants integrate relatively quickly, especially from one generation to the next, Islam stands out as an exception.
“Although it’s not completely absent in Muslims, the change is much slower,” he said, noting that a literal interpretation of the Quran prevents them from integrating into Western countries.
In an earlier published study titled “Fundamentalism and out-group hostility,” Koopmans compared Muslim radicalism with Christian radicalism to better understand why Islam stands out for its isolationism.
“Almost 60 percent agree that Muslims should return to the roots of Islam,” he wrote, while “75 percent think there is only one interpretation of the Qur’an possible to which every Muslim should stick.”
Koopmans, who has been studying Islam for over twenty years, also found that “65 percent say that religious rules are more important to them than the laws of the country in which they live.”
Regarding Christian citizens on the other hand, Koopmans found that fewer than 4 percent “can be characterized as consistent fundamentalists.”
“I conclude that the Islamic world is lagging behind rest of the world when it comes to democracy, human rights, and political and economic development,” Koopmans told Berlingske in his interview this week.
“The main problem is how many Muslims and, globally, how many Muslim countries interpret Islam. Namely, in a way that basically claims that the Qur’an and the Sunna must be taken literally, and that the way the Prophet lived in the 7th century must be the yardstick for how Muslims should live in the 21st century,” he said.
“Such a brand of Islam is, firstly, a threat to world peace. Secondly, it prevents integration,” Koopmans concluded.
Although it is politically taboo to draw distinctions between ethnic groups when it comes to immigration, some scholars, including Pope Benedict XVI, have urged the West not to assume that all cultures share its basic suppositions about the human person and society.
Prior to his election as pope, Joseph Ratzinger wrote that “the interplay of society, politics, and religion has a completely different structure in Islam” than it does in the West.
Unfortunately, he added, much of today’s discussion in the West regarding Islam “presupposes that all religions have basically the same structure, that they all fit into a democratic system with its regulations and the possibilities provided by these regulations.”
“The Koran is a total religious law….
Renate says
This is why Muslim populations in Western countries should never be allowed to grow to a point where they can threaten the pre-existing cultures.
Rufluc says
But can you ever see this happening Renate? We all know that Muslims breed like rabbits and it is their declared way of taking over Western countries (conquest through their women’s wombs), but the main problems we have in actually doing anything about it is:
a) the lunatic left,
b) liberal minded females, many of whom don’t have the ability or foresight to see the future mayhem that will be caused by millions of more Muslims in the West, and
c) political correctness!
As for b) you only need to look at the Democratic party in the US, where it is mostly females that are pro open borders.
Child support benefits need also to be stopped for this group too, as this clearly shows how we are paying for our own demise. In their eyes it is a form of ‘Jizya’ or infidel tax.
My own belief is that 95% of our politicians have been infected with the PC disease that infects 100% of leftists. This has created a widespread fear among them that prevents them from voting for anything that is in the best interests of their own people. We have also seen this disease spread throughout Hollywood and it’s so called ‘celebrities’. In other words, those who spout the PC nonsense, but have the wealth to remain away from its consequences!
I can only see Western society inevitably ending in civil war, with signs of that already happening in some European countries (the widespread yellow vest protests).
When Westerners can no longer run away from it all, they will in time turn and fight it, but I fear by that time it will be too late!
Neil S. Morrall (@_c0cky) says
very true – and puzzling – about females
Jaladhi says
Don’t blame the West for Muslims not integrating in their societies. It’s the Muslims themselves who do not integrate in any foreign land where they have invaded. Take for examples Muslims living in India – one can say they have superficially integrated in the society but look carefully they still don’t like living with Hindus, Sikhs, Jains, Buddhists, Christians and other non-Muslims. Muslims will never ever integrate in any non-Muslim society!They have follow every diktat of Quran and Mohammad which run contrary to the norms of civilized societies!
gravenimage says
True, Jaladhi–but I do blame Western authorities for not stopping the influx of Muslims once it became clear that Muslims do not integrate and are a threat–which became obvious a *long* time ago.
LesNie says
Well, Europe knows muslims for an over millenium. It is not like the authorities just recently discovered the true nature of islam. The authorities are mass settling muslims precisely because of that. Then you (and me), occupied by problems caused by muslims won’t have the capacity to react to what the elites want to do to us, our nations and societies.
Roger Woodhouse says
The problem is exactly that.
Ignorance of the true intentions of Islam have created the problem we face in the West.Our naive leaders ,raised as they all were in a closseted society of privelidge but no ‘religious ‘ education due entirely to their eagerness to embrace the ‘new liberalism’ sweeping the country thanks to the likes of Tony Blair and his crew who wanted to ‘rub the noses of the right in diversity’ Our own Church of England is equally guilty.They of all groups should have known just what Islam was all about.The Archbishop of Canterbury should hang his head in shame for standing by without as much as a ‘caution’
gravenimage says
A lot of those in the West have forgotten the threat of Islam. Many of us have forgotten our own history.
D. Morris says
Muslims then should stay in their own country IF they cannot live by the law of the new country and be Productive Citizens– work, etc. If Muslims follow 7th Century Islam, it is not surprising that they cannot assimilate nor advance.
Ole Pederson says
Funny thing is, after World war II Germany has seen and sometimes inivted many migrants, freom countries like Spain, Italy, Yugoslavia, Poland, Vietnam, and Portugal. Almost no problems with these, none of them got free money, and most of them either returned to their home countries or are good Germans today. Their kids go to school and university or they work.
Not so Turks, Arabs, and Kurds!
gravenimage says
Very true.
Ren says
Don’t give up to any of muslims demands because there are no bounds to them.
gravenimage says
+1
Paul says
Why don’t we have a poll amongst JW readers about can Islam live in a 21st century society ?
With freedoms for women and gay men. Or children that don’t get mutilated.
I can predict an answer.
Paul
Georg says
After thinking about it I’ve determined the results of the poll would be “No.”
Indiana Tom says
can Islam live in a 7th century society ?
Terry Gain says
Unfortunately, he added, much of today’s discussion in the West regarding Islam “presupposes that all religions have basically the same structure, that they all fit into a democratic system with its regulations and the possibilities provided by these regulations.”
“The Koran is a total religious law….
…………….
The apparent inability to distinguish between a totalitarian political system and a religion has left the West unable to defend itself.
Rufolino says
Can anyone suggest a way to get ordinary Europeans to LISTEN to what this man is SAYING ?
What a silly question ! The main media would never allow these facts to be mentioned, let alone discussed.
Marga says
The fake, outright lying media is the biggest problem in the world today.
gravenimage says
Dutch Islamic scholar: “No Western country has successfully integrated Muslims”
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Ruud Koopmans is *spot on* here. Glad he is brave enough to say so.
mortimer says
The ‘ESSENTIAL’ and compulsory teaching of AL WALAA WAL BARAA prevents Muslims from becoming acculturated in Western countries and stops them from caring what Non-Muslims think.
AL WALAA WAL BARAA
http://westindanger.com/wb/walaa-baraa.html
Niemoller says
That interpretation is normative Islam, and the one that resulted in over 11 million Muslims being murdered for not being Muslim enough since 1948, along with innumerable non-Muslims.
Does that “innumerable” include 2 million Christians murdered in the Biafran War in Nigeria?
Islam makes its forced adherents miserable, thus they are nihilists who want to make everyone else miserable, and finally they want to bring about the end of the world.
tim gallagher says
Good point you make, Niemoller, about the “misery” of Islam and how Muslims want to impose the inhuman misery that Islam ( which is so all controlling) brings on everyone else. I know people here quote one of those loathsome mullahs from Iran (maybe even Khomeini himself) saying “there is no fun in Islam” or something similar. Although then again, Islam provides plenty of fun for men who love murdering people (mostly non-Muslims), raping women and girls (especially non-Muslims), etc. Islam provides lots of fun for evil people. It is so great to see Ruud Koopmans speaking up and telling a truth which I think should be bloody obvious to anyone with even half a brain by now. He shows plenty of courage to tell the truth. To my mind, trying to integrate Islam into the west is impossible, a completely futile project, which all civilised countries should give up on. I can’t believe how our idiotic politicians keep on persisting with the experiment of letting Muslims into our countries.
b.a. freeman says
tim, i don’t think that it’s just an experiment. these people – our *rulers*, who consider themselves better than us – don’t like having to subject themselves to the stupid stinking masses just so that they can continue to run the government; far better to take the power and keep it indefinitely. but how to do that?
well, every time the left (our rulers, and “betters”) took over a country in the past century or so, it was almost always because of chaotic conditions in society at large. russia in 1918 is a classic example, and the USSR took advantage of poor economic conditions in many countries throughout the world after WWII (and those conditions were poor because leftists had been running these nations as colonial empires before the war) to spread their socialist disease. the left has ruled eurabian universities since the late 19th century, and began taking over the u.s. education system in the 1950s and 1960s. the universities were all conquered by the 1970s, and by th 1990s, the hard left (or rather, graduates of the hard-left universities) had turned the primary and secondary education institutions of the u.s. into indoctrination centers. anybody who leaves school at any level, from pre-K to post-doctorate, is at least a nominal leftist, because he has been exposed only to leftist ideas, and has not been taught to think critically.
this has been a *huge* part of the conquest of the u.s., but our fall has apparently not been coming soon enough. the left has always had multiple anti-american efforts at work, and another one is apparently the importation of pious muslims. since about 10% of all muslims everywhere are pious, all the left has to do is get muslims inside our borders, by hook or by crook, and keep them here; the 10% are always with the others, and *theirs* will be the destabilizing effort that destroys our society from within. from the perspective of the hard-core left, the beautiful part of this is that all they have to do is make noise about immigrants and prejudices against them by natives, and the non-leftists in government will cave and not do anything; nobody *EVER* blames a leftist for murders by pious muslims, and the hypocritical whining of the left provides perfect cover for the pious 10%. to me, this makes pious muslims the proxy army of the hard-core left.
thus, i divide our rulers into 2 groups: leftists, most of whom are younger, and have swallowed the left’s lies hook, line, and sinker, supposedly led by their elders, who, although usually somewhat left of center, are not usually hard-core leftists, and non-leftists, who usually are not organized enough to defeat the leftists. the elder leftists will be retiring and dying, at which time the deluded victims of educational malpractice (ms. clinton’s voters, who did have a ~3 million vote majority in the 2016 presidential election) will vote more of the same (think AOC and her ilk) into office. the disorganized non-leftists don’t realize that we are being conquered, so they put no real effort into opposing the left. think about it: when was the last time (before mr. trump) that U could tell the difference between a democrat-run government (turning left *hard*) and a republican-run government (turning just a little left)? most of today’s voters have to look that up in the history books.
the result will be that pious muslims will be able to run rampant through the streets, murdering large numbers of people at will, because the nazis who will be running the government won’t try to protect us – the voters – from the pious muslims, and will instead viciously attack anybody who actually examines islam (ask eric allen bell, an independent filmmaker who once considered himself a leftist, until he read about islam, and lost all his friends and much of his family when he decided that islam was poisonous and tried to explain it to them). the left, since it almost always controls government, will be able to declare martial law when things get really bad, and the people will actually be happy about it. of course, under the blackout of martial law, a few dozen assassinations is all it will take to make sure that a people’s republic can be established. sucks to be red-blooded american, because that means a bullet in the brain!
of course, i could be wrong, but how else to explain the deafening silence from the left in the face of IS, boko haram. al shabab, and others claiming to be fundamentalist muslims? can anybody tell me with a straight face that *NOBODY* has looked at islam? of course not! thus, this is pretty much the *ONLY* explanation … but i am open to others, if somebody comes up with one.
in the meantime, i fully intend to make leftists and pious muslims pay dearly when they come for me. i am setting aside shelf-stable food and water, along with guns and ammunition (all legal, where i am storing them), and when they finally come for me – and they will, because i have a big mouth and don’t intend to shut up or tone it down – i hope to take a few of them out before they finally kill me. most importantly, i will be OBEYING THE LAW to the bitter end. a republic only works because of rule by law rather than rule by fiat; i am loyal to the constitution, because it is the best form of government ever instituted, even though the liars, traitors, blind men, and fools in washington think that they are above both it and me. it is the LEFT that believes that it doesn’t have to obey the law; THEY are the traitors destroying the nation and civilization around the world, and i will have NO PART in the destruction of the constitution and the republic by breaking the law.
CRUSADER says
David Horowitz sure has much to say about LEFTists.
gravenimage says
b.a. freeman, not all of us have decided that things are hopeless. Dire, yes, but not hopeless.
Georg says
“Islam makes its forced adherents miserable, thus they are nihilists who want to make everyone else miserable”
I’ve termed this “Islamic malaise.” It’s one of the most unpleasant, dangerous and potentially destructive forces on earth. Another which gives it some competition is communism. But Islam still takes it for being even more twisted and sadistic.
tim gallagher says
Thanks for the comments b.a. freeman, CRUSADER, gravenimage and Georg. b.a. freeman, the left certainly do seem to have gone into some kind of treaty with Islam although I keep thinking the values that the left generally say they support ( you know, feminism, freedom from oppression for homosexuals, opposition to capital punishment, etc) are the complete opposite of Islam’s values. The left hate our western civilisation so I guess that Islam is the enemy of their enemy(ie western civilisation). When I mentioned the “experiment” ( I probably should have just said policies) of letting Muslims migrate into our countries I was referring to the politicians who would be considered conservatives, not just the left wingers. Out here in Australia, so far, I think there’s only been one politician, Paulin Hanson, who has said she’d end Muslim migration if she had the power to do so. Even our conservative politicians would say that, yes, we have some problems with our Muslim migrants but most have been no problem. At least that’s what they say in public. Maybe, in private they believe something different to that. Maybe they lack the courage to say it. I think almost everyone should have woken up by now and said “No more Muslim migration”. I don’t know if there are at least some politicians in the USA who actually call for an end to Muslim migration. Trump seemed to be trying to do something about moving in that direction. For some reason I always think that Americans and their politicians will be tougher than most other countries when it comes to Islam and Muslim migration. Only the people in Hungary, the Czech Republic and Poland seem to get it. Europeans like Wilders and Le Pen seem to get it as well. That filmmaker, eric allen bell, who lost his leftie friends, sounds interesting. It’s probably happened to many people. I keep hoping the majority of people in our countries wake up to Islam’s evil and force our political leaders to become far tougher, force them to end Muslim migration.. I agree, gravenimage , we have to keep fighting and just hope that far more people wake up. Georg, I agree with your comment about the “Islamic malaise” and how dangerous and destructive it is.
Don says
Your right, Poland, “gets it.” This is an incredible video that will inspire. Bóg błogosławi i chroni Polskę. – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_BjPy19bYs
dan christensen says
The number of citizens in the Vatican state is around 10,000. Less than 1% (100 individuals) are muslims, so there is a fair chance that those are successfully Integrated.
Even the pope himself has said nothing negative about the muslims – on the contrary.
Migrants are therefore recommended to seek shelter in the Vatican State from now on, where the pope personally will wash their feet on arrival.
Every migrant is welcome in the Vatican State. Let them in by the thousands – no papers needed – no questions asked. There is always room for 100 extra migrants, walking, sailing or flying.
Michael Copeland says
Muslims are INSTRUCTED NOT TO integrate.
If they are seen to be doing so they are THREATENED and INTIMIDATED – standard Sharia.
It is not fitting, when a matter has been decided by Allah and his Messenger, for the ordinary muslim, man or woman, to have any option (Koran 33:36, part of Islamic law).
Michael Copeland says
“The muslim community possesses no power except to acknowledge and obey.”
Dr Salah al Sawy,
Assembly of Muslim Jurists of America
Georg says
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZ-kqP1FuMs
Georg says
You can see Obama’s stance on this archived here:
https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/champions/giving-back-to-the-community/linda-sarsour
CRUSADER says
Sour Sister Sarsour looks as if she will model for the Statue of Jihad, to replace the Statue of Liberty one day…..
How grim!
Michael Copeland says
“The main problem is how many Muslims and, globally, how many Muslim countries interpret Islam. Namely, in a way that basically claims that the Qur’an and the Sunna must be taken literally,”
Koopmans is suggesting that a non-literal interpretation would be acceptable or even possible.
In Iran a man who held Koran study groups in his house suggested that the story of Jonah and the whale be taken figuratively.
He was hanged.
Indiana Tom says
“presupposes that all religions have basically the same structure, that they all fit into a democratic system with its regulations and the possibilities provided by these regulations.”
This is where Western societies and institutions lose the whole ball game. They assume all of these third world radical Muslims are just like people in Kansas. Fantastic folly.
CRUSADER says
Dutch aren’t completely dead, after all !!!
This would vindicate much of what Geert Wilders and Ayaan Hirsi Ali have been saying….
na says
thenewsminute.com/article/survivor-kerala-imam-sexual-assault-case-be-sent-back-her-mother-97975
South Indian imam raped a girl. Then he went to gym to build his body to escape from Police . He acted like a millennial wearing western clothing . But finally Police caught him.
CRUSADER says
Lord Christ preserve us !
+++++++++++++++++++
dan christensen says
The Lord only preserves those who carry a big stick.
Indiana Tom says
I think the Anglo-Saxons said the same thing about the Norsemen.
Might need King Alfred the Great or Harold Goodwinson’s strategy on this one. Okay, so the Battle of Hastings was not the greatest, but Harold did do pretty good against the Vikings at Longbridge.
John M Armitage says
It was Stamford Bridge, Indy, but good point. Actually, if he hadn’t had to forcemarch his army hundreds of miles, he’d have probably been victorious at Hastings. We English would have kept our focus/viewpoint on Scandinavia, if he had. Makes one wonder …
james says
Probably the issue is that other religions teach people to reconcile themselves to loss or improve themselves personally. To be humble. Even if the religion is involved in wars, the original teachings do not promote war and domination. Islam seems to teach people to be dominant over others. It is basically incompatible with other world religions.
Joe says
A big part of the problem is that Muslims don’t know their roots. Islam goes back further than Mohammed. It started in Petra. Mohammed was a warlord who used Islam to assimilate his gains and to justify new acquisitions. He created the part of Islam that everyone should hate. The sutras or verses of the Koran that preceded Mohammed were from Christians and Jews. Mohammed didn’t eliminate them; he added his own to them. Most of the Koran is from Mohammed, but the parts that are not, come across like religion should.
The opposites are still in the Koran today. Some verses advocate love and tolerance while most push war and conquest.
If Muslims want to go back to their roots, they should ponder why Mohammed was such an awful Muslim. Why should their religion be used by a warlord for his own personal gain?
Shalom Bertie100 says
Good man. Let’s hope he doesn’t get demonised now.
Shalom Bertie100 says
Good man.
dumbledoresarmy says
I hope that Dutch and other European jihadwatchers here present will write to this man and offer him encouragement and support. Get behind him and push! Share his interviews and articles around. The more people like him – and he isn’t the first, let’s not forget Geert Wilders, and Niccolai Sennels, and Thilo Sarrazin – speak up, the more will speak up. One person can be isolated and silenced; it’s a lot harder to silence multiple voices coming from all over.
And if you are a praying person.. pray for his safety!
Lu says
Interesting statements by the Pope Ratzinger. One can’t help thinking about his resignation actually being an ouster concocted by the pro-Islam clique (in Vatican ?) … because this Francis is a commie and islamopanderer par excellence.
Harold says
Given the constantly reiterated left-wing charge that opposition to massive immigration is racist and xenophobic, it is important to restate the truth: The reason for opposition to mass immigration into the United States — from almost anywhere in the world, whether legal or illegal — has nothing to do with race or ethnicity. The issue is entirely one of values. Every immigrant, to anywhere, brings a set of social, moral, political and religious values. No one on earth is devoid of values, be they noble, ignoble or merely confused.
wildbill2u says
Polls show that only 10% of Muslims adopt the violent interpretation of Jihad and commit terroristic acts in support of Islam. Suppose a refugee army from somewhere in Borneo had a traditional religious tenet to eat their enemies. Would we feel comfortable letting them in if we were told that only 10 % were active cannibals and only about 50% of the rest would cover up for them because they approved?
The blind Utopian one-worlders will destroy the country to salve their unrealistic view of Islam. A teenage in my neighborhood who went to a high school a block away was convicted recently of plotting to bomb a mall where I shop. Maybe Islamophobes are made that way because there really are people out there who want to kill them.
Don says
“Maybe Islamophobes are made that way because there really are people out there who want to kill them.” – A popular quote going around, “It’s not islamophobia if they really are trying to kill you.”
Marigold says
Few in authority will take notice of RUUD but he is still very brave for telling the truth.I would say there was plenty of other academics trained in sociology that would agree with him but are too afraid to speak up in case they get accused of Islamaphobia..
I wrote to the department of Home Affairs asking them to limit Muslim migration in Australia as I can see what is happening in Europe which is more densely populated.The only answer I got was that their migration policy was non – discriminatory and’ haven’t the slightest intention of learning from other country’s mistakes.
Yet for anyone who has eyes to see they have only got to visit designated areas and they can come to the same conclusion as RUUD.If you visit a big shopping centre in these areas especially it is almost possible to think you are in a Muslim country becauseof the women wearing head scarves and the full Islamic robes.In other words GHETTOES are being created which lead to no go areas such as i have heard of in the UK.
GHETTOES are the opposite to integration or these migrants would not gather in one area.They would want choose to live amongst the host population..
Don says
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com
Don says
Poland & Hungary FIGHT The EU | Migrant Redistribution Plan | Legal Threats – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0-UVORAs8s