Not the poor victim that her Hamas-linked CAIR lawyer and the establishment media are making her out to be.
“Dossier details hate-filled social media messages from jihadi bride seeking return to U.S.,” by Rowan Scarborough, Washington Times, March 3, 2019:
A research group that monitors jihadi social media has assembled a detailed dossier on Hoda Muthana, the former Alabama resident who embraced mass killings as a three-time Islamic State bride in Syria but now wants to return to America.
The Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI) tracked and recorded Ms. Muthana’s Twitter and Instagram war cries over four years. She expressed hatred for the U.S. and the world in general, urged American Muslims to “rent a big truck and drive all over them” at veterans parades and labeled American service members “cowards.”
Five years after entering the so-called caliphate as a teenager, a disenchanted Ms. Muthana, amid the shambles of a mostly defeated terrorist army, sits in a Kurdish refugee camp with a young son….
A family attorney, Hassan Shibly, executive director of the Florida chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), retweeted a Baltimore Sun column that compared Ms. Muthana’s return to the forgiveness of Confederate soldiers in 1865….
Some examples of Ms. Muthana’s posts:
• “There are sooo many Aussies and Brits here but where are the Americans, wake up u cowards.”
• “Terrorize the kuffar [a slur of non-Muslims] at home.”
• “Men and women altogether. You have much to do while you live under our greatest enemy, enough of your sleeping! Go on drive-bys and spill all of their blood, or rent a big truck and drive all over them. Veterans, Patriot, Memorial etc Day parades Kill them.”
• “The whole world doesn’t seem to understand that simple equation. The fact that we don’t love, or even like this world or anything in it. And we are hastening to the Next. We’ve given up everything to live in harsh conditions for Allah’s sake, why? Simply because it’s the only place we as Muslims are allowed to live in. Syria is ugly I’m not going to lie. But we are here only for Allah and we pray for patience and perseverance and we are willing to give everything even our lives for His sake.”
• “We have men (and women!) who love death as ardently as you love your lives! I was watching an American documentary on a battle in Afghanistan and the Americans are such cowards. Crying and shaking on the battlefield and saying, ‘our aim is to get everyone home where they belong.’ While our men’s aim on the battlefield is to reunite with our Lord. Our honor is in jihad, either victory or shahadah [martyrdom]. These men cry for their lives while we cry for our death (shahadah)!”…
In a handwritten note obtained by CNN, she regretted everything.
“When I left to Syria I was a naive, angry, and arrogant young woman. I thought that I understood my religious beliefs,” she said. “During my years in Syria I would see and experience a way of life and the terrible effects of war which changed me. Seeing bloodshed up close changed me. Motherhood changed me. Seeing friends, children, and the men I married dying changed me. Seeing how different a society could be compared to the beloved America I was born and raised into changed me. Being where I was and seeing the [people] around me scared me because I realized I didn’t want to be a part of this. My beliefs weren’t the same as theirs.”
She told NBC News: “I am a citizen, and those papers prove it, as I’m just as American as any blond-haired, blue-eyed girl, and I would like to stay in my country and do American things.”…
Emilie Green says
“and do American things”
Like killing other Americans because they’re not Muslims.
christianblood says
Cowardly West too weak to punish its returning ISIS members. More below:
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/453013-shamima-begum-isis-iraq/
Wellington says
Rather like cowardly Putin and Krill too weak not to call out Islam for the menace which it is and who do stupid things like celebrating the opening of the largest mosque in Moscow, making the bogus distinction between “Islam” and “radical Islam” (N.B., the latter is redundant), and even allowing Sharia in “full flower” in Chechnya.
gravenimage says
The same thing is happening in Russia:
https://www.businessinsider.com/r-return-of-defeated-is-fighters-real-threat-to-russia-ria-cites-fsb-chief-2017-12
We are all in danger from these foolish policies.
christianblood says
gravenimage
You are right. The only difference is that, unlike the West, Russians are strong, free from the serious political-correctness disease that is plaguing the West and will fight back hard against Islamists.
gravenimage says
christianblood keeps saying this–that Jihad terror in Russia is not a problem for Russians, and doesn’t bother him.
But I don’t want to see anyone slaughtered by Jihadists–not Americans, not Russians, not Western Europeans or anyone else.
I don’t think that anyone should be letting these Jihadists return.
christianblood says
gravenimage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=sHLWjvssAag
gravenimage says
How does the fact that too many foolish Westerners are credulous about Islam make if OK that Muslims are murdering Russians?
I don’t think it does.
gravenimage says
make it OK
VRWC member77 says
There are a lot of passive cowards in Russia that have allowed the musllim population to breed near 7% which is higher than dhimmi France. Tough guy Putin talks real tough while being cocooned around his 40 billion dollar security service……and passive Russia passes time while muslims proliferate.
christianblood says
VRWC member77
It is true that Russia has a big, indigenous muslim population that are mostly concentrated in the North Caucus region but the good thing is that, unlike the West which is spiritually DEAD and which has turned its collective backs on Christianity, Russia is spiritually alive and knows its identity and roots and this will keep Russia safe from islamic threat in the long run. The problem of Islam in the West is ultimately an spiritual problem and can only be dealt with spiritually. Please watch as the Danish investigative journalists below explains this situation in candid way:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYnphmKkOhU
gravenimage says
christianblood wrote:
VRWC member77
It is true that Russia has a big, indigenous muslim population that are mostly concentrated in the North Caucus region but the good thing is that, unlike the West which is spiritually DEAD and which has turned its collective backs on Christianity, Russia is spiritually alive and knows its identity and roots and this will keep Russia safe from islamic threat in the long run…
……………………….
Iben Thranholm makes some good points.
But the claim that Russia is so spiritual–never mind that it is not even 50% Christian–that it does not have to care to about Muslims slaughtering them is *very* strange.
Note the site Christianblood linked to–“Katehon”. One of the main contributors to that site is Muslim cleric Sheikh Imran Nazar Hosein. He has written–at another site christianblood regularly links to, The Saker–that Orthodox Christians have to ally with Muslims to destroy Christians and others in the West:
“The Kuranic foundations of the need for an alliance between Islam and Orthodoxy”
http://thesaker.is/the-kuranic-foundations-of-the-need-for-an-alliance-between-islam-and-orthodoxy/
I have asked christianblood scores of times now if he agrees with this or not–and he will never say. One can only conclude that he *does* agree that Orthodox Christians should ally with Muslims to destroy other Christians.
Sheikh Hosein says that Muslims “respect” Orthodox Christians, and consider them “real” Christians–unlike Catholics and Protestants.
How can anyone believe this claptrap? It is both hideously ugly *and* absurdly naive. It is obvious that Hosein and his coreligionists hope to use Orthodox Christians to take out the West, and then turn on them.
I hope that most Orthodox Christians are both too intelligent and too decent to swallow this vicious twaddle–but at this point, sadly, I doubt that includes christianblood.
gravenimage says
I just ran across this–apparently “The Saker” hates Jihad Watch, as well, for daring to expose the threat of Jihad:
“Islam and the West: What Went Wrong and Why”
http://thesaker.is/islam-and-the-west-what-went-wrong-and-why/
“One of the beneficiaries of these [“anti-Muslim”] funds is Robert Spencer’s website “Jihad watch”, which received more than $500,000 in donations between 2001 and 2009. The ideas propagated by Spencer—long known for endeavoring to cast Islam as a diabolical threat…”
christianblood regularly links to a site that posits the ‘filthy Infidels’ of the West for being at fault for the Jihad against them.
gravenimage says
Of course, christianblood will not not address any of this.
Arthur says
First she hated non-muslims, was ready to kill them, but now she wants to live among non-muslims, live off welfare, like a parasite, instead of any muslim country where her beloved Sharia is.
She should loose British citizenship long time ago
Arthur says
sorry – she should loose US citizenship, not UK
Terry Gain says
Arthur
I see you used some loose language in your comments. Both of them.
tedh754 says
I wish people would be careful of syntax errors.
gravenimage says
I agree with Arthur. I understood his meaning, despite his typo.
Wellington says
Rot.
Westman says
“My beliefs weren’t the same as theirs.” Regardless of what they are now, her beliefs WERE the same and bloodthirsty.
“Yes, I told my husband, get out there and kill Americans, and demanded that American muslims kill unbelievers by any means, but it was just kid stuff. I want normal things now, like a house in Dearborn and raising my little jihadi. Get with it.”
Where are Ohmar, Tlaib, and AOC? Surely, here is a common intersection of their interests.
karl anglin says
Better this person learn that one cannot have things both ways.
eduardo odraude says
The chief characteristic of immigration policy should be that, without mentioning any particular religion, the policy institutes a moratorium on immigration from any nation that does not protect freedom of speech and freedom of religion. Obviously that would affect Islamic nations, but it would also put pressure on Europe to provide stronger protections for free speech, and it would pressure states like China to liberalize. Since the proposed immigration policy would not mention any particular religion, it would not provoke huge First Amendment controversies, and thus might be politically possible to put in place. Such a policy, without mentioning Islam, would block Islamization in the West, and block that which accompanies Islamization, namely the erosion and eventual destruction of basic human rights. The immigration policy described could make exceptions for dissidents, oppressed minorities (if they respect freedom of religion and speech), and perhaps for scientists.
dan christensen says
eduardo is a bit optimistic. The problem is: Who decides what is freedom of speech and religion?
Muslims would say “freedom of speech ok – but don’t you dare criticize islam” and “freedom of religion ok – but accept second place if your religion is not islam”.
Expect no concensus on the definition of freedom of X. It only works if every nation has its own definition of freedom and decides its own criteria for admitting foreigners – without outside pressure from UN, Mekka, Rome or George Soros.
Rarely says
eduardo.
A non-starter. Historically, the vast majority of immigrants to Canada and the U.S. came from countries where basic freedoms were nonexistent. They came here for a better way of life and opportunity. They did not come to conquer. They came to partake. The U.S. and Canada would be nothing without them.
This current wave into the west is something quite different. Therefore every effort must be made to screen them.
katherine says
All that screening nonsense !
Just make them sign a declaration to disavow Sharia and support the National Constitution fully as Basic Criteria for entry. Then ENFORCE their deportation on the slightest evidence of abrogation or treachery. If they claim non-acceptance by country of origin, give them the Chinese Uighur Solution.
So simple – now who’s willing to do it.
A 100 million dumb North Americans supporting the import of 1 billion jihadis. A big curse on the 50% who voted for Justin and Hillary.
CRUSADER says
2020 Hopefully will bring about indictment of Muslim Brotherhood and CAIR as being classified as Terrorist Organizations….
somehistory says
Asked my a rep from CBS what she would say to President Trump, this was her reply:
“”I would tell him to study the legal system, because apparently I am allowed back. I have papers. I have citizenship,” she insisted. ‘
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Mr. Trump has many legal advisors. He can ask any one of them, or can pull out copies of Federal Laws to read for himself.
The arrogant terrorist, listening to her moslim creep lawyer, is arrogant enough to believe she knows more than he. And she’s demanding to be “allowed back.”
She is not regretful. She is not truly repentant. She is demanding, so she can carry on her warfare here.
Sobieski says
Notice how she tried to play the race card:
“I am a citizen, and those papers prove it, as I’m just as American as any blond-haired, blue-eyed girl, and I would like to stay in my country and do American things.”
If she were a blond-haired, blue-eyed person who joined ISIS, I would oppose her repatriation just as strongly as I do now.
If she had chosen to join the Nazis in WW2, I would just as strongly oppose her repatriation.
Rarely says
Both Canada and the U.S. allowed thousands of former Nazis to immigrate after WWII including many who had committed war crimes. They may or may not have had a “change of heart” but they certainly knew which side their bread was buttered on. She does too. As long as ISIS was alive and well she likely would not have had a “change of heart”.
somehistory says
She wanted us all dead…by violent means. She wanted us to be run over by trucks or blown up in parades.
When did she stop wanting us to be run over by trucks or blown up in parades?
How do we know that she stopped wanting that/ She encouraged other moslims to blow us up or run us over with big trucks. How do we know she won’t do that one-on–one if she is allowed back in? She’ll attend a barracks and do her share of preying…for those very things….the death of Christians and Jews. How do we know she won’t verbally encourage those in the barracks with her to run over us or blow us up?
And yes, she played the ‘race card.’ As though the thugs of islam are a certain race and should be given all respect as she believes is due that ‘race.’
I really hope they keep her out. Though I do have pity for the child who didn’t ask to be a part of this and has no control over anything.
Jean (old) says
Traitors are usually cowards, and she illustrates that point perfectly.
Jay says
“If”. …….this girl enters into the USA , she should be detained, arrested immediately and tried for
treason! According to Mike Pompeo and our State Dept, she is NOT a citizen and will be treated
as such!! The US taxpayers should NOT have to support her or her child! She is a traitor and terrorist!
End of story!!
CogitoErgoSum says
I think she should get a job driving a big honkin’ truck between Saudi Arabia and Iran. She could name it the “Honeysuckle Rose” and listen to Willie Nelson on the radio all day long. Everybody would know she’s an American then.
warren nicodemus says
The child has the same syco eyes ,as his father .
gravenimage says
The problem is not genetics, but that his mother is likely already indoctrinating him in Jihad.
Mirren10 says
”Five years after entering the so-called caliphate as a teenager, a disenchanted Ms. Muthana, amid the shambles of a mostly defeated terrorist army, sits in a Kurdish refugee camp with a young son.”
Amazing, isn’t it, there she sits ‘amid the shambles’, in a ‘Kurdish refugee camp’, and yet she manages to have perfectly threaded eyebrows, heavily kohled eyes, sparkling white teeth, and a perfect complexion ! Looks damn well fed, too, better fed than the weird looking little sprog next to her …Maybe all of us kufr women should trot over there, looks like a day at the spa !
”The fact that we don’t love, or even like this world or anything in it.”
Does that include the eyewbrow threading, and the top notch set of teeth you have ? She hates the world and everything in it, but wants to come back to America ! (maybe her beautician got mashed ? 🙂 )
”Seeing friends, children, and the men I married dying changed me”
Yep, I made damn sure I kept those eyebrows threaded !
Let this evil bitch back in, and she’ll be buying a pressure cooker before you can say inshallah.
somehistory says
Mirren10
she does look physically healthy…for all her complaints. And the child has big bags under his eyes; doesn’t look healthy, at all.
She says she “hates…everything.” But she wants to return to **her** “beloved country.” She said she “hated” America and Americans and wanted us dead. Now, suddenly, she feels that America is ***her*** “beloved country.” Perhaps her tools for eye care are running low and she can’t get her favorite chocolates any longer.
There is nothing for her to “hate and destroy” where she is as much as back in this country. She can’t be trusted and she deserves to stay there and live like the weakened terrorist that she is.
Mirren10 says
+1 !
Glorious Silver Eddies Magnificent says
I think she is the perfect partner for Omar and the other one in our Congress. We should be able to oust all three at one time. 18 U.S. Code § 2385. Advocating overthrow of Government makes it very clear none of these women and boatloads of Dems like AOC terrorists and seditionists and “,,,Whoever organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or violence; …Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction…”.
What I don’t understand is why we don’t take an active role in getting these women behind bars and if they have kids, get them into protective custody.
I am truly tired of our pandering to this cult, this murderous cult.
gravenimage says
ISIS bride who wants to return to US: “Spill all of their blood, or rent a big truck and drive all over them”
…………………
What a fine American! She should be allowed to come home right away! What could possibly go wrong? sarc/off
Peter WF says
No doubt she enjoys what she built.
Lynn says
Now that she is done being an ISIS slut, she prolly has figured out that she can come back to the US and learn the in’s and out’s of being a US Baby Momma will all the welfare perks. She has perfected her work of laying on her back for all of her “husbands”, so now she wants to perfect it here and for your tax dollars to pay for her ignorant Muslim slut ways. I wonder just how many STD’s she has bc that will cost $ too.
Hugh Fitzgerald says
Hoda Muthana wants to be allowed back in the country she abandoned, and against which she called for war, and for the murder of its citizens. Hoda Muthana does not say that she now understands what the Qur’an commands, and is having none of it. She says only that she’s sorry she made the choice she did, and now thinks she has every right to come back. Apparently the notion she has committed treason has not occurred to her. She feels, unbelievable, that she is a victim. ”
Since shecontinues to call herself a Muslim, we have a right to assume that she knows the contents of, and agrees with, such verses as 2:191-194, 3:151, 4:87, 8:12, 8:60, 9:5, 9:29, 47:4, and 98:6. There is nothing to discuss with her until she explicitly recites, and renounces those verses. That would be a teaching moment. Then perhaps she might be allowed back in, tried, convicted, and given a very long sentence.
gravenimage says
+1
J D.S says
Of course most all of us have, at one time or another, recanted. We’ve done and said things that make us look in a bad light but most of us have not turned our backsides to America and wanted to see the citizenry slain as has this woman.
I do feel sorrow for her child knowing what the child will face and what the future holds for most children in Muslim lands but other than separating her from the child I can’t see a resolve for this situation.
Is she an American citizen? If so and she is returned then she is a traitor and should be treated as such. If determined that she is not a citizen and is returned, her child should be taken from her and she then should be treated as an enemy combatant.
maddymappo says
So she is just as an American as a blond hair blue eyed girl? So it’s her dark skin an dark eyes, that’s why we don’t want her, and not that she called for our blood to run like rivers, and called our soldiers cowards for loving life. She who was brave and loved death more than we cowards love life, she who called for trucks to run over us on her holidays, she wishes to return to her “beloved” America where she has just as much a right to be as a blond hair blued eyed girl. My only wish is that she was caught by the Iraqis, they have given the death sentence to the female jihadis like her.
Kepha says
I do not see how the administration can win the legal argument about Hoda Muthana’s citizenship. She was born in the USA after her father had ceased to have diplomatic status from Yemen. She was issued a US passport to travel on. She is a US citizen as defined by the 14th Amendment.
This being said, the US can issue her a passport valid only for return to the USA, put her on a watch list, and arrest her the minute she comes off a place. We’ve often done that for other criminals.