Now here are some questions that mainstream counterterror analysts should ponder deeply: did the Islamic State actually apply Sharia? ISIS is routinely dismissed as un-Islamic, but what exactly did they do that cannot be backed up by specific citations from the Qur’an and Hadith? And if the Islamic State just wanted to apply Sharia, and Sharia is entirely benign and compatible with Western values, as Western analysts also regularly insist, then why did the whole world regard the Islamic State as a criminal entity that must be destroyed? Why was it not welcomed into the family of nations, alongside other Sharia regimes including Saudi Arabia and Iran?
“‘Tomorrow we’ll be in paradise’: Islamic State followers speak from besieged enclave,” by Lisa Barrington, Reuters, March 12, 2019:
BEIRUT (Reuters) – Even as it faced imminent defeat in its last populated territory in eastern Syria, Islamic State made a new propaganda film calling on the few remaining residents of its cold, besieged encampment to maintain their prayers and seek refuge in God.
“Servants of God, keep reciting your prayers and ask for forgiveness,” the loudspeaker of a beaten up van cries as it tours the ramshackle camp in the video. “Repent and ask God for forgiveness, oh servants of God, for perhaps the almighty will find a way out for us.”…
“Tomorrow, God willing, we will be in paradise and they will be burning in hell,” said an Islamic State member whom the video identified as Abu Abd al-Azeem, whose speech is peppered with Koranic recitations….
“The infidels laughed at, humiliated us in this world, but war has its ups and downs and the battle is not over,” al-Azeem said, adding that IS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is the only Muslim leader on earth today….
Azeem implores watchers not to focus on worldly conditions, suggesting those still in Baghouz were martyrs as he referenced part of the Koran that describes how a group of people were burned in a ditch because of their strong belief in God….
Al-Azeem says all IS wanted to do was apply God’s law.
“Why are we bombed by planes, why do all the nations of the unbelieving world come together to fight us? … What is our guilt? What is our crime? We (just) wanted to apply the sharia of God,” he said….
Mary says
Their crime is wanting to ram Shari law down our throats.
mortimer says
Sharia is a collection of crimes against humanity. Sharia law contravenes all modern human rights codes.
60% of Sharia is illegal already in most countries.
HIPS says
“Why do all the nations of the unbelieving world come together to fight us?”
Maybe it’s because islam is a totalitarian ideology, full of hate, rape, violence and historically conflictive with everyone who is unwilling to submit to this false god and his prophet.
Islam is the greatest evil free man has ever faced.
elee says
+1
dan christensen says
“Al-Azeem says all IS wanted to do was apply God’s law.”
The man forgot to say that IS wanted to apply it to the whole world, no matter whether the whole world wants sharia or not.
The Western countries say all the West wants is NOT to apply God’s law, no matter whether the islamic world wants sharia or not.
The West wants to apply Democratic Principles in all countries with all religions. The West wants to save the islamic countries from their own religious superstitions, because islam is selfproclaimed anti-democratic.
Democracy must rule alone and is above all religion. Religion is a private hobby and should be recognized only as a private political activity, always under democratic scrutiny and rule.
After 200 years of democracy in the world, islam has still not accepted the supremacy of democracy over religion, but democracy will prevail. No stone-age religion can prevent it.
mortimer says
We in the West DO NOT BELIEVE that Sharia law is ‘God’s law’. Sharia is the laws developed by medieval Muslim theoreticians.
PRCS says
We in the West?
That ‘we’ includes millions of Muslims. Start with Dearborn.
While the majority of the West’s “unvelivers” don’t believe ISLAMIC law is “God’s law”, quite a few obviously do.
Jule Bacal says
Its gangland. Most Gangs are very similar. Don’t I remember the Godfather being very much the same?
FYI says
Why do nations come to fight them?
Because they are murderously savage,evil,totalitarian religious nazis…
CogitoErgoSum says
What is their guilt? What is their crime? Depends on whom you ask, doesn’t it. I think a more important question is what is their sin? What sins did they commit according to the words of Allah in the Quran? Speak up, Muslims, and let us all know. Now, if you ask me, I think their sin is the same sin of which the writer of this news story is guilty — and that is of making Allah interchangeable with God. Muhammad may be the messenger of Allah but Allah is NOT the one true God.
PRCS says
“What is their guilt? What is their crime? Depends on whom you ask, doesn’t it.”
True.
Applying “God’s law” as THEY understand it–is the right thing to do (the world over, of course) whether WE filthy unbelievers want it or not.
Videos like this one from CAIR make clear that they’re not going to stop trying:
Full Video: CAIR Congressional Reception with Reps. Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar and André Carson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW_wLRIaUno
Jule Bacal says
I guess they say it is no sin to slay a satan/demon/unbeliever. Watch Malaysia. thats how they are telling it. Turkey/Pakistan/Indonesia/S Philippines/Qatar/Hezbollah/Iran…it is really warning that all must prepare.
Arthur says
I can also create my own religion, and rape muslim women, have them as sex slaves, discriminate muslims, and they must follow my rules and my God
PRCS says
Sign me up.
I wouldn’t do those things, but we should be able to use our own First Amendment rights to establish a “religion” which says the same things about Islam that it says about “unbelievers”.
Indiana Tom says
Well, we could all become Vikings.
Guy Forester says
Sounds like the same lunatic rantings of adolf when the russkies were closing in on him.
Kuffar 'n Proud says
Apart from “beheading those that insult the prophet and islam,” subjecting little girls to FGM, marrying and have sex with little girls, making all women cover themselves with a sack in public, murdering the Kuffar if they don’t convert to islam or subjuct themselves to dhimmitude, take the wives and daughters of the murdered Kuffar as sex slaves, rape and murder at will, etc. etc. etc……..
…..,“What is our guilt? What is our crime? We just wanted to apply the sharia of Allah.”
mortimer says
MUSLIM LEADERS AGREE THAT THE DOCTRINES OF ISIS ARE CORRECT ACCORDING TO SHARIA …
– Dr. Ahmed al-Tayeb, the Sheikh and Grand Imam of Al Azhar refused to condemn ISIS terrorism, “Al Azhar cannot accuse any [Muslim] of being a kafir [infidel], as long as he believes in Allah and the Last Day—even if he commits every atrocity,” adding: “I cannot denounce ISIS as un-Islamic, but I can say that they cause corruption on earth. ISIS believes that those [Muslims] who commit the great sins are kafirs and can be killed. Thus if I denounce them of being un-Islamic, I fall into the same [trap] I am now condemning.”
– in 2015, the former imam of the Grand Mosque of Mecca, Sheikh Adel al-Kalbani, declared that the Islamic State and Saudi Arabia “follow the same thought”. He has stated as well, that ISIS is a “true product of Salafism,” the same brand of Islam as officially espoused by Saudi Arabia. He clearly stated, “We [in Saudi Arabia] follow the same thought [as ISIS], but apply it in a refined way…They draw their ideas from what is written in our own books, from our own principles… we do not criticise the thought on which it (ISIS) is based”.
mortimer says
Azeem asked: “What is our guilt? What is our crime?”
Answer: You’re a bunch of backward, savage, no-conscience criminals committing crimes against humanity.
Walter Sieruk says
The way to defeat those cruel, vicious, malicious and murderous jihadist thugs who compose the brutal and deadly jihad entity ISIS is by the use of many very strong powers of militant might. That is hit them hard, hit hem long, keep on hitting them and don’t stop hitting them. Meaning take them down, put them down, keep them down and don’t let them rise up again. As Thomas Jefferson had, so well, stated “With every barbarous people…force is law.” Furthermore, the jihadists of ISIS in their mad Islamic quest to establish a caliphate, with all the cruel, brutal and murdering violence that is part of it, will not respond the reason. For the Muslim fanatics who compose ISIS cannot understand logic, nor do they care about reason. Those jihadists of ISIS in their irrational unquestioning blind Islamic faith have and leave no room for reason. In this unreasoning blind Islamic drive the jihadist/Muslims who make up ISIS are a reminder of what Benjamin Franklin had printed in POOR RICHARD’S ALMANAC. Which is “The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason.”
dan christensen says
The good cop in islam is the Moderates and the bad cop is IS. Together they work for a common goal. To break down the infidels to confess their crime of being infidels. When they have confessed, it is easy to press them into joining islam.
The Moderates never enter into any dialogue concerning the killer sections in quaran and sharia. They try to sell islam to the infidels by delivering soft messages about the compassion and love distributed freely by their distinctive deity. Conversion to islam is so easy. You only have to mumble some incantations in arabic and behold; you just gave your free will away to a lunar (lunatic) arabic god and replaced your own free will with the incantation “inshallah”.
The bad cop (IS) represents REAL islam. With all its paranoid fear of everything sexual in life, its fanatical hatred of every other religion, is duplicity, lies and doublespeak. Its singularity of mind and monotonous repetitions of meaningless liturgical formulae.
It helps to be schizofrenic if you are contemplating to switch from common sense to islam.
Walter Sieruk says
It’s amazing, as with all the brutal vicious malicious and murderous evils the jihadists of violent and criminal jihad terror entity actually had the blind and ignorant gall to ask “What is our guilt? and “What is our crime.” This complete blindness of this and the other jihadists of ISIS must be the bling effect of the false religion which is Islam to the extent that the Muslim of that jihad terror organization cannot any longer even understand the basic and clear difference between right and wrong as well as the difference between good and evil. It’s worth noting that the Bible in Isaiah 5:20 teaches “”Woe to those who call evil good , and good evil.” [N.K.J.V.]
DHazard says
No Muslim follows all of the Quran and every “authentic” Hadith. In some cases doing so would be laughable (i.e. toilet etiquette). But ISIS obviously went out of their way to justify sadism. The problem with Islam is that it involves a lot of ideas and practices that are evil. But, Allah said his own book was perfect and that his own “last” messenger was perfect.
If Islam is true then the Universe is an evil place and God is a psychopath. Or, Islam is false and Muhammad was a psychopath.
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CRUSADER says
““What is our guilt? What is our crime? We just wanted to apply the sharia of Allah.”
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That seems to be the full argument in a nutshell.
It’s what counter-jihadists have been warning of.
Political Islam is based on Religion of Muslims.
Indiana Tom says
These poor boys are just aspiring rappers about to turn their lives around.
Ole Pederson says
Adolf Eichmann:
*We’ve heard this before. A pathetic excuse for a pathertic excuse of a human being.
(* not a direct quote, just the meaning).
Ren says
Islamic State jihadi: “What is our guilt? What is our crime? We just wanted to apply the sharia of Allah.”
There you have it: the mindset of a dumb fool.
CRUSADER says
These BLOWHARDS follow blindly a cult figure called Mohamhead.
But how do these Mohamheadans actually know Mohamhead existed?
????
Think of it!!!! Mo only is mentioned four times in the Koran….
( Spencer traces the story of Muhammed through ancient sources and archaeology, the evidence for the Prophet’s life becomes more and more evanescent. The name Muhammad, for example, appears only 4 times in the Qur’an, as compared to the 136 mentions of Moses in the Qur’an. And those references to Muhammad say nothing specific about his life. The first biography of Muhammad, written by Ibn Ishaq 125 years after the Prophet’s death, is the primary source of biographical detail, yet it “comes down to us only in the quite lengthy fragments reproduced by an even later chronicler, Ibn Hisham, who wrote in the first quarter of the ninth century, and by other historians who reproduced and thereby preserved additional sections.” )
Michał Moś says
Really? They don’t know what are they guilty? They are not able to look sincerely on international websites and look at comment of people, who more and more ar frightened of them? They don’t know that mother of 15-year old girl being on the international students exchange nearly cries listening to the news about plane crash and evidences of the terrorist attack only because she supposes her daughter is on the board? And after some hour there is a big happines when this girl calls her mum she is alove and all her group is late to be set on this plane, which has already crashed? They are mad!
Jule Bacal says
Exactly, but they DO BELIEVE, on threat of death, that they are Righteously doing what Allah wants. This is the kicker. For all BELIEVERS, wrong is right. Their words do have the same meaning as ours. They say Islamists are not the terrorists but the WEST and anyone who tries to stop the follow through of their BELIEFS is the terrorist. They can easily say, “we do as Allah Commands, it is not terror.” You who stop us are the terrorists and santan.”
gravenimage says
Pious Muslims *want* innocent people to be afraid of them.
Siddi Nasrani says
So ISIS has nothing to do with Islam, well just watch this & make up your own mind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfqnnbcUVMQ
gravenimage says
Yes–hilarious stuff.
Aleksander says
“Why are we bombed by planes, why do all the nations of the unbelieving world come together to fight us? … What is our guilt? What is our crime?
What do you think why? Who gave you the right to behead innocent people?
Jule Bacal says
They say No nonMuslim is innocent. We are all guilty because we will not follow Allah and do as Mohammed & all his wives did.
(I always wonder how many ‘Arabs’ or Iranian Muslims are actually half Jewish since they have done so much capturing and raping including Mohammed.)
gravenimage says
Islamic State jihadi: “What is our guilt? What is our crime? We just wanted to apply the sharia of Allah.”
………………..
He just wanted to rape sex slaves, crucify children, and commit genocide. Nothing wrong with this in Islam–and that is the whole problem…
Jule Bacal says
Yes, and somehow the world has to find a way to face it, and that is not just ISIL by a long stretch. How do we all face something like this? Not just the actions but the Beliefs.
Denial just is not working.
gravenimage says
So true, Jule.