“There’s not an unlimited right to freedom of expression or free speech. There are limitations and there’s a balance that needs to be done.”
If there are any limits to the freedom of speech other than prohibitions on open calls for violence and criminal activity, then there is no freedom of speech at all. And if there is no freedom of speech, there is no longer a free society. Muslims complained about Oluwole Ilesanmi’s preaching, and now it is official: Muslims in Britain are a protected class whose wishes must be catered to in all circumstances. Britain is, of course, finished.
“There are ‘limitations’ to free speech, says London Mayor after street preacher’s arrest,” Christian Today, March 22, 2019:
The Mayor of London, Sadiq Khan, has addressed the recent arrest and subsequent de-arrest of a street preacher outside Southgate tube station.
Video footage of Oluwole Ilesanmi being arrested by police for a “breach of the peace” went viral on social media and has now been viewed over 2 million times.
Police arrested Mr Ilesanmi after a member of the public complained that he had made ‘Islamophobic’ comments. No further action was taken and Mr Ilesanmi was subsequently de-arrested.
However, a complaint was later lodged against Enfield police over their handling of the situation after Mr Ilesanmi said he had been released by police some distance from Southgate and was only able to make his way back with the help of a member of the public who paid for his bus fare.
The incident has given rise to concerns about freedom of speech for Christians.
Addressing Mr Ilesanmi’s arrest during Mayor’s Question Time at the London Assembly on Thursday, Mr Khan said: “I expect the police to take this matter seriously.”
Although Mr Khan said it would be inappropriate for him to comment on the specific case in light of the ongoing review by the borough’s Professional Standards Unit, he defended the right of police to investigate allegations of criminal offence.
“It’s always been clear that freedom of speech is critical and must be protected but also the police must be able to investigate when allegations are made of a criminal offence,” he said….
Pressing the mayor on whether Christians could openly read from any part of the Bible without fear of arrest, Mr Khan refused to rule out the possibility of similar incidents happening again in the future.
“There’s not an unlimited right to freedom of expression or free speech. There are limitations and there’s a balance that needs to be done,” said Mr Khan.
“But I’m quite clear in my own views – we should go as far as we can to uphold that really important principle [of free speech] and that includes discourse about religion.”
Michael Copeland says
Sharia being applied by the usual technique – just impose it.
Halal Bacon says
winner winner chicken dinner
EVILSPEAK says
Winner Winner Halal Chicken Dinner , let’s not be Islamaphobic.
JM says
Nice one!
Debi Brand says
“Sharia being applied by the usual technique – just impose it.”
Indeed. Roger. Well stated, M.C. “the folk” will just adjust to it, or suffer the bitter cost for resisting such.
Lydia Church says
And YES, we DO have the right to evangelize and freedom of speech, if there would be limits, this ain’t it! And to not be a hypocrite, now he has to go and arrest all the muslim proselytizers out there… because what they are doing is beyond the limits of free speech!
JM says
Indeed. Muslims are freely allowed to preach “dawa”. it happens a lot here in central Manchester. We even once had women giving out hijabs for non-Muslims to try on. together with flowers, and another wihere they were giving out sweets on behalf of “Muslim mothers.” Perhaps they take us for idiots!
Paul says
I think it was Justice Cardozo who said you can’t shout fire in a crowded theatre thus causing a stampede.
Street preachers are a bloody nuisance but they never preach hate. I hope a poor guy gets justice in this matter but I doubt it. After the muslims Christchurch victimhood they will oppress us and enjoy every minute.
Paul
Rev. G says
Actually it was Oliver Wendell Holmes, writing in dissent, and it was a badly written, incorrect piece. Worst thing he ever wrote as a justice.
Paul says
Oops.
I would love to discuss the limits of free speech but this is not the right forum.
Best wishes,
Paul
Uriah Sheep says
I wish I could go back in time and tell my Grandad to ” Just stay where you are. Look after Granny and my uncle,” because what good has it done? We have a Muslim running London telling us what we can do and what we can say. What is the difference between him and a Nazi Gauleiter running London?
nicu says
Muslims fought for Hitler !! and respected Islam — there is no difference !
somehistory says
Once freedom to speak is put under the chopping block, other freedoms will follow quickly. The second freedom is that of choosing a form of worship. This moslim mayor is taking both of these freedoms down in one fell swoop.
gravenimage says
+1
CRUSADER says
When the British turned in their firearms, they already started down a difficult path.
IanB says
Who’s saying we all turned them in?
nicu says
Freedom of speech ended here in 2015 –at the latest – cos Merkel’s ” pieces of gold ” may not be critisiced ! welcome to Eurabistan !
CRUSADER says
Sounds a bit like Bat Ye’or….
Aleksander says
Sadiq Khan – who is he to tell people: “There’s not an unlimited right to free speech”? I suggest him to mind his own business if he wants not to become the enemy of people. His words proofs he`s not wise man at all. How can such person become the mayor of London? By what objective measures and circumstances?
Joe Z. Wells says
Khaaaaan! Was an enemy of the people (non-muslim) before he was ever elected. The people who voted for him, continue to support him and believe anything that’s comes from his mouth are the useful idiots. If free speech is limited then it’s NOT. FREE. SPEECH.
Tricia Stuercke says
My little sister, her husband, & their 7yr old son just had texted me, SO EXCITED to FINALLY have booked their “Dream Trip” to London… they’re lovely & loving, but DON’T follow what’s going on in the world! I had to FEIGN JOY for them, & will now spend the next few months gently informing them of what’s happened to “quaint Old England”.
People are so “busy” & good-hearted; if they don’t make an effort to get informed, & only watch their local news & late-night biased-B.S., THEY ARE CLUELESS! THIS is how MOST of our Countrymen are STILL living!
I’ll now be searching for bullet & stab-proof backpacks & jackets for my little nephew… unreal. Khan has excellerated the embedding of Islam, & he can’t even form a proper sentence! I PRAY they can rid themselves of him, but imagine the uproar if he loses next time! Lord God, like the U.S., so many have left You… please don’t leave them! They NEED Your Protection more than they’ll admit.
Joe Z. Wells says
+1 We are fallen. We all need Him so much more that we could ever imagine. Me 1st.
jayell says
If your sister, brother-in-law and young nephew are expecting to find ‘quaint old England’ as per the old movies, their first reaction upon arriving at Heathrow would be to wonder if they’ve actually arrived at the right airport.
Anne Smith says
I worked at Heathrow in the 1980s and on a weekend it was more like Karachi with all these cultural enrichers arriving by the plane load.
No doubt many of them are now voting for Sadiq Khan.
James Lincoln says
Tricia,
See if they can change their plans and go to Budapest.
I have the same problem in my own family. Most are liberal Democrats, graduates of elite universities, highly educated, but, at the same time, totally clueless regarding the threats of Islam.
You are not alone.
gravenimage says
I hope your sister and her family stay safe.
andrew mckendrick says
London Mayor just invented new crime….”preach of the peace”
Wellington says
I would ask of Muslims just what amount of free speech is permissible? Certainly free speech is not absolute, as Paul above referenced by way of the example of falsely crying “fire” in a crowded theater.
But wherever Islam has influence, control or dominance, it is a guarantee that free speech will be limited way beyond what should be allowed, only the degree being a variable and in direct proportion to how much Islam controls the area in question.
Anyone asserting otherwise, provide me an example where a criticism or mockery of anything Islamic is allowed by Mohammedans themselves, and with no real need to worry about one’s personal safety, in any of the some 56 Muslim-majority countries on earth.
Again, I assert that you can have Islam or freedom but you can’t have both. The present, wretched excuse for the Mayor of London only confirms my contention here.
Freedom or Islam. The choice is this stark and one knows this or should know it. Put another way, Muslims in Western nations are a major impediment to liberty and I am so tired of anyone anymore not getting this.
Keys says
Strongly agree, Wellington.
Because Mohammadans permit no criticism of Islam, Mohammad, sharia law, or Allah without severe penalty, there can never be free speech for those they despise. No freedom of speech for those they call infidels, for those they are commanded to subdue – every last one of us, who are not muslim.
Islam means submission to Allah and his prophet. Our freedom be damned in their diabolical faith.
CRUSADER says
Islam gains another potential sex abuser and inexcusable liar.
Recently, R. Kelly appeared in a BBC interview with Prophet Muhammad. Shortly after the program aired, R. Kelly requested permission to travel to the Middle East for some concert performances.
Coincidence? David Wood discusses the issue.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WklXliKhiGo
gravenimage says
Yuk.
Oddly, the backstory for that story was covered a couple of months back at Jihad Watch:
“R. Kelly Could Have Learned from Muhammad”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2019/01/r-kelly-could-have-learned-from-muhammad
Raja says
UK has become a gutter for Islam and she is having a precipitous fall down the hill from a once first world run by principles of freedom and squeaky clean Christians.
Can a thuggish Islam deliver anything good for mankind? No multi-culturism is the panacea to all ills of nations/sarc off
God disagrees in the Bible as he always had clarity on the issue
Proverbs 28 : 4 & 5
4Those who forsake the law praise the wicked, But those who keep the law strive with them.
5 Evil men do not understand justice, But those who seek the LORD understand all things.
Raja says
This incident proves the fact that Muslims have an uncanny aptitude for imposing their views more so a grandstanding drag to mix Islam with politics. Sure Islam was always that way and intended as such.
Jay says
London’ s Muslim mayor Khan is the enemy within! England is LOST! PM Churchill is not resting easy today! How can the English people and parliament not see this corruption and invasion and treason in plain view?
The USA will NOT save them again!
God save the queen!
God bless and save America!????????
eh History ! says
Mr. Robert is making a very valid point about suppression freedom of speech to people who are non muslims.
Religious differences will always exist no matter where we are in the world. The problem is: muslims are easily prone to violence and any type of disagreement on mostly any topic.
Govt’s around the world hadn’t figure way out around it and it is causing a backlash !! So many people have seen violence on social media about muslim killing Christians and governments did absolutely minimum to save them !!!
UK government is perfect example to the whole world of it! In order to maintain public order and people they are supressing anyone who is trying to speak up!
Jesuit priest at St James parish in North Vancouver BC made an announcement to all parishioners by saying in 2050 Europe will be under Islamic law.
FYI says
Not really surprising when you consider saddiq the Saddo Khan’s god,allah “the BEST of deceivers” k3:54,has,as his greatest enemy {Sahih Muslim vol 5 hadith #5611}…Jesus Christ.
It is ALWAYS muslims who complain when any Christian preaches;the fraudulently pious ,hypocritical and two-faced, primitive islamic soul simply cannot bear the Truth!
{2 Thessalonians 2 v 10-12 explains why…}
Why would they, when they have their pagan god of Evil allah {hu-bAAL}to misguide them,their false pedophile “prophet” muhammed{sbuh}and their Commandment-of-God violating unholy koran to instruct them.
islam’s false god,false prophet and false scripture :islam is the religion of antiChrist,satan’s own creed.
The police officers involved in detaining that preacher did not need to cuff him:those officers are a disgrace to their profession.
Note too, how it is now RACIST for a Christian to preach the Gospel:How England has fallen,thanks to the RED-GREEN Axis and Tony Blair opening the floodgates{and Creepy Cameron continuing them}to mass islamic immigration creating a situation that it is no longer safe for Britons to live in their OWN country!
“You should have though about that before being racist” said the PC PC in response to the preacher’s request not to take his Bible away.Such a joke the Britainistani police and judiciary have become!
islam is the religion of antiChrist.
See how they have made some of these islamic apologists Lords and Ladies as if they would ever truly be part of British Society!
{The koran CURSES Jews and Christians k9:30 and says “Take not the Jews and Christians for friends” k5:51}
No doubt Sajiid Javid would love to be the UK’s first muslim PM..
Frankz says
Hmm, reminds me of Finsbury Park. Used to work at that dump. Glad they now have bouncer police for all the times you don’t need them.
James Lincoln says
Robert Spencer states:
“Britain is, of course, finished.”
When he first started saying this, for I thought that he may be exaggerating, perhaps to wake the Brits up. I was wrong…
Unfortunately, he has been proven to be correct.
At this point, Britain cannot be fixed short of a Civil War.
Singh The Sikh says
London is finished anyway:
London mosque warned over ‘kill Ahmadis’ leaflets: A BBC investigation found the leaflets were authored by an ex-head of Khatme Nabuwwat, a group based in Pakistan which lists the (London) mosque as its “overseas office”.
Haha!
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-47654430
Christopher Watson says
“There’s not an unlimited right to Free speech.”
Yes, Khan. There is.
eduardo odraude says
The only limits: people should not be permitted to make explicit calls for illegal violence; or do things like shouting “fire” in a crowded theater.
But criticism of any religion or philosophy is a God-given right, not something Sadiq Khan or any government has the right to take away.
The US is fortunate our founders recognized this and formalized it in the First Amendment of the US Constitution.
Unfortunately, many Europeans — and many Americans — think you can start to limit free speech around the edges, forbid “offensive” speech, or “hate” speech, and so on.
Hate speech laws end up being used not to stop hatred but as a means by which the powerful can silence anyone with whom they disagree.
Speech that no one finds offensive needs no protection. In other words, free speech laws are there precisely to protect speech that someone might find offensive.
The remedy for bad speech is not censorship, but more speech.
JFK said “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.”
State censorship is a kind of violence. It depends on the use of force. The UK’s use of state censorship is violence against the UK citizen and may one day provoke violent revolution, unless the UK wises up and puts in place an equivalent to the First Amendment.
gravenimage says
Agreed, Eduardo.
thebigW says
“No further action was taken and Mr Ilesanmi was subsequently de-arrested.”
How d’ya get “de-arrested”?
mortimer says
Trust a Muslim politician to take away your freedom of expression EVERY SINGLE TIME!
Only ORTHODOX MUSLIMS of the ‘correct’ branch of Islam has freedom of expression under Sharia law… the others are heretics who are silenced.
CENSORSHIP is normative Islam, rather than an aberration.
If England is a constitutionally Christian country, then it is legal in England to preach the Christian message in public.
Battle says
Khan may have ordered the persecution by arrest, extreme long distance kidnapping and abandonment with no bus fare. Khan needs to be sued for religious discrimination, racial discrimination, and violation of free speech statute. Then neefs to be impeached. And if not born UK needs to be deported back to the religiously-bigoted and racially-bigoted wastehole country he came from.
Debi Brand says
“London’s Muslim mayor defends arrest of Christian preacher: ‘There’s not an unlimited right to free speech’”
Well of course there is not—numerous time, “Allah” warned against crossing the limits.
“Pressing the mayor on whether Christians could openly read from any part of the Bible without fear of arrest, Mr Khan refused to rule out the possibility of similar incidents happening again in the future.
“ ‘There’s not an unlimited right to freedom of expression or free speech. There are limitations … ’ said Mr Khan.”
Limitations, indeed – those set and established by “Allah and His Messenger.”
na says
I have lot of concern about this incident, Many of them have concern about raising their children, such a situation.Most of the schools are Islamic study center. Many churches turned to Mosque.
CRUSADER says
The Wheel of Fortune spins in different directions….
DEUS VULT !
+++++++++++
gravenimage says
London’s Muslim mayor defends arrest of Christian preacher: “There’s not an unlimited right to free speech”
…………………
Of course this Muslim thug is trying to crush peaceful freedom of speech–especially that of Christians.
This preacher was not threatening violence–the threat came from Mohammedans in a “Muslim area” who may well have reacted with violence, and it was easier for the cowardly police to arrest him than have to deal with or even acknowledge violent Muslims.
Just disgusting.
eduardo odraude says
I think some Muslims want Christians censored for any of several reasons. In no particular order:
1) Muslims know that some Muslims might feel provoked to jihad massacre proselytizing Christians, and that would be embarrassing not to mention dangerous for the Muslim minority in the UK if it happens too much before Muslims grow to become the majority;
2) the Christians might actually succeed in converting Muslims, and then the Muslim population would not grow as quickly;
3) Islam does not permit freedom of speech or freedom of religion; in Islamic law, publicly criticizing Islam or Muhammad is punishable by death.
gravenimage says
+1
CRUSADER says
Who is to say for definite that Muslims in the UK won’t wake up
and seek to convert to Christianity?
We don’t know for sure.
NEVER give up hope!
ALWAYS guard the Faith!
++++++++++++++++++++
awake says
London certainly got what it deserved.
gravenimage says
I don’t want to see this happening to one of the greatest capital cities in the West.
eduardo odraude says
Robert Spencer says “Britain is, of course, finished.”
One may think such an idea needlessly gives up hope.
But consider. If the UK is, indeed, “finished,” if Britain is already, for demographic reasons, irreversibly on a path toward the end of its freedom, then it is imperative that the US recognize as quickly as possible that Britain is “done”; it is imperative because the US is not that far behind the same conditions and therefore is not that far from the same irreversible stage.
If there is in fact little hope for the UK, and yet we keep acting as if they are not yet on an irreversible path out of the free world, then we here in the US will be tranquilized when in fact we should be taking urgent action to save the US from the same Islamization process.
On the other hand, if it were to become conventional wisdom that the UK is “done” — then perhaps many of those who are still resisting Islamization in the UK would stop bothering to resist, and the whole process would move even more quickly, which would be dangerous for the US too.
CRUSADER says
Is the UK finished while Tommy Robinson breathes?!!?
Let’s not forsake our patriotic colleague !
DEUS VULT!
++++++++++
eduardo odraude says
agreed
gravenimage says
There *are* still a few patriots in Britain.
CRUSADER says
Squelch the speech of this dastardly mayor.
ntesdorf says
It speaks volumes about the inroads of Fascism into ex-Great Britain that a Christian Preacher can be arrested there for a “breach of the peace” after following his faith.
gravenimage says
Yes–just shocking.
Noam Cherney says
Will the “amount” be limited per capita or per community ?
ivan says
We are being ruled by mob violence. Freedom of speech as long as it does not cause a public order offence. So instead of dealing with the mob and protect the individuals right of freedom of speech. you move the individual to appease the mob
gravenimage says
Spot on, Ivan.
islamic text says
Please download
http://www.islamic-laws.com/download/Islaamic_Sharia_Law_sunni.pdf
Dennis Durkop posted the link of the full English translation of the Arabic Islamic sharia on Facebook
Many Muslims hate this link considering it a fake translation by Jews, but is fully supported by the 57 Islamic member states of the world’s largest devout criminal gang the United Nations Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC), that passed into international law to protect their religious right, that only Muslim men are human beings, while Muslim females, children and unbelievers are lowly dirty animals with no rigths! See:
http://www.islamic-laws.com/download/Islaamic_Sharia_Law_sunni.pdf
Many Muslims will runaway from all arguments about the Quran when confronted with the OIC’s official Islamic sharia that shows the full oppressive barbarism of their pagan death rape cult! Most do not know it even exists; as they are so brainwashed by their brainwashed clerics! Great to have their own law to rub their faces in what is in black and white!
Here is another link by someone else about early biography of mohd https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_Ishaq
gravenimage says
Thanks for those links.
Peter A says
Once you start chipping away at it, a little bit here and a little bit there, before you know it WHOOSH, it’s gone. Free speech, either you have it or you don’t. And it is obvious now that in the UK (my place of birth) they (the establishment, in a misguided attempt to appease a violent and intolerant ideology) have started chipping away at it.
John Adderley says
Bollox, khan the useless swine would be saying its racist and islamaphobic if the police arrested a mudslime spouting fairy tales in public. Its all so fake and bias its sickening. What is up with police and MPs. All bent over sheep to islam and its roaches.
J D.S says
The best in can make out of this mess is that….preaching the word of God is a criminal offence.. Like its been said…”Britton is finished” along with many other European nations that have caved in to an unGodly religion who use every tactic in the book, from murder to silencing the public speech, to move their agenda forward. What has happened to leaders who just say NO?
Battle says
Sadiq Khan needs to charge complainant with filing a false report to disturb the peace of Christians.
elee says
Were the Protocols of Umar on the ballot in London? Didn’t think so. Minnesota? Didn’t think so. Wake up dhimmis.
UNCLE VLADDI says
Here we go again.
Lying is the most basic form of theft: it’s the at least, attempted theft of the Truth. Since all crimes are forms of theft, lying (aka “fraud” and “slander”) is a crime, and all liars are criminals. And as such, most if not all criminals are also hypocrites who want to extort subjective double-standard rights without responsibilities for them only selves and other like-minded criminals, and to deny their victims their rights to self-defense from criminals, by encouraging them to falsely consider them selves to be somehow responsible to the “victimized” criminals’ hurt feelings. Since criminology depends on proving ‘mens-rea’ guilty-mind free-will criminal intent, the criminals’ first duty to his craft is to deny any and all self-reliant free will choice even exists, or if it does exist, it doesn’t matter because life is too complex for anyone to really ever be able to understand cause-and-effect logic or rationality. They must therefore posit that since all choices are caused by some other pre-existing, predestined and predetermined inevitable yet magical mysterious and ultimately inexplicable force, we really have no free will choices at all in life, and as such there are no real “crimes” nor “criminals” because we’re all really ever only helpless victims – of “society”/ mere products of our environments, and of course proudly helpless slaves of unknown and unknowable “allah!” Therefore, the only thing we can know for sure, is that the only ’cause’ of all these inexplicable existential effects we experience which we can and so should always rule out, is that of this mythical “free will choice” itself!
Therefore, they continue, the only real crime should be to offend other victims by daring to insult them by accusing them of being “criminals,” simply because they attempted and even possibly succeeded in carrying out their “crimes” against “other” helpless victims! This is both how and why all the soft-science humanity faculties become victimology.
Slanderous criminal extortionists will always spew victimology as they try to pretend they are the real victims, and their victims are the real criminals. Reversing and ignoring cause-and-effect is who they are and what they do.
So of course they try to reverse the onus of proof, to get us to have to ‘prove a negative’ (“Prove you DIDN’T offend me!”) which is of course subjective and impossible, because even if they could prove one DID offend them, their criminally hypocritical definition of offense is where they want to be the only ones to have rights and no responsibilities to others, and everyone else to only have a responsibility to them and no rights to self-defense what so ever. The cause-and-effect-reversed onus of disproof is now “Accusing me of my crimes is what made me commit them!”
ALL criminals always want ever-more rights – like, to our stuff, without having any responsibilities to earn or otherwise pay for it – and the only way to thus divide rights away from responsibilities is to offload their own responsibilities (as in, to control their aggressive predatory criminal urges to attack thereby innocent others first) onto their victims, by denying said victims their rights to defend themselves and innocent others.
A main purpose of the first amendment and free speech in general is to ask other people for assistance in stopping crimes by being able to accuse criminals of committing them.
Yet even our own Western societies have become so corrupted by the deference of our own rights and responsibilities to putative expert “authorities” – where certain gang leaders enjoy idolatrous rights without responsibilities, to do our thinking and acting “for us” and “for our own good” – that we citizens aren’t even allowed to make the determination that a crime has been committed, let alone actually legally accuse anyone else of their crimes – without their prior approval! Even the cops who arrest criminals must kow-tow to the wisdom and power of the prosecutors office before the case can be taken to trial, and the prosecution must defer to the judges and their considerations of defense lawyers.
Thus our entire “justice” system has been designed from its inception to subvert individual human rights to idolatrous gang might-made “group rights” – for instance, to “society” alone, and even these days to all sub-group victimologies and the divisively slanderous extortions of perpetual “victim” group identity politics.
But what of “Hate-Crimes!” one might ask?
Well, that’s simple and easy to understand!
“Bullying” (cyber, or otherwise) is already subject to laws against extortion. Extortion is also known as bullying, intimidation, coercion, duress, blackmail, activist agitation, and, of course, terrorism.
As for “hate-crimes:” we already have laws against slander.
Slander is fraud, and it’s a crime because it’s used to accuse people of crimes, without having a shred of evidence to back those accusations up.
The aim of slander is to falsely inspire hatred (perpetual anger) in others, and to hope to incite them to violence.
However, hatred itself is often a good thing, because if people were unable to hate crimes and the criminals that commit them, no one would ever bother to accuse any criminals of their crimes, nor by doing so , hope to end those crimes. Idiots who want to make “hate” (a symptom, or an effect) into a crime, can only ever end up making it ‘illegal’ to hate crimes!
So what’s the difference between slander and “hate-crimes” legislation?
Well, for starters, the only defense against charges of slander, is the Truth (your accusations are not slander if you can objectively prove them)!
But “hate-crimes laws” are based not on objective Truth, but on the subjectively-claimed “perception” that one is being unfairly accused of one’s crimes, even if there’s proof one did indeed commit them!
So, accusing someone of a “hate-crime” and not of slander, IS in fact, only slander!
But it’s official, government-backed and police-state-enforced slander!
But, what of “Hate-Speech!” one might also ask?
Well, that’s equally simple and easy to understand!
ALL “Hate-Speech Laws” ARE CRIMES!
“Progressive” criminals – who like all criminals desire an equality of outcome over a true equality of opportunity, and to get it will always try to socially engineer ever-more rights and ever-less responsibilities for them selves, by offloading their responsibilities onto their victims by stealing their victims’ rights – pretend to hold submissive masochism as the highest virtue (for their victims to hold, not them) and the ultimate crime to be causing offense and hurting other people’s (criminal’s) feelings, (i.e: by accusing them of their crimes).
So they want to make it illegal to accuse criminals of their crimes, since that might hurt their feelings and in offending them with the often-painful truth, “make” them commit even more crimes!
Is there anything which really ought to qualify as hate speech and be banned?
NO – not because it’s “hateful” (because that sort of nonsense is only making subjective assessments based on emotions;) and “HATE” is really only the perfectly natural human response of perpetual anger towards ongoing crimes (like islam); without ‘hate’ we would never bother to accuse criminals of their crimes in order to stop those crimes.
Unreasonable false displays of hatred and anger on the other hand, are what the Left is good at – but that’s already illegal, not because of the anger displayed – that’s just the outrageous holier-than-thou virtue-signalling packaging used to disguise their preposterous extortion attempts – but because it’s fraudulent slander.
Such criminal leftists who try to make “hate” into a crime, only ever make it ‘illegal’ to hate crime itself!
Speech which is already disallowed is incitement of immediate violence and death-threats … and even those aren’t illegal, if say they call for the police to use violence to counter ongoing mob violence and looting, or call for the death-penalty for murderers!
See how simple that was? Too bad “our leaders” aka politicians are professional hypocrites, whose criminally negligent motto has ever been “There’s No Money In Solutions, so Please Give Generously – AGAIN!” They get paid to pretend to be too stupid to understand problems, in order to never have to solve them, and in fact to exploit the almost infinite symptoms of unsolved problems as ever-more lucrative “causes” as “eternal crises” to champion in stead!
😉
BOTTOM LINE?
Terrorism works.
By now, everyone knows islam is nothing more than a terror gang and all muslims are at least potential terrorists.
When confronted by fear, people can respond in two ways:
1.) Honestly – they admit they’re afraid, and so then try to do something about solving the problem; (Conservatives;)
2.) Dishonestly – they pretend to be martyrs, but remain masochists, advising everyone else to Submit, too. (Liberals).
Guess which category most politicians (self-promoting salesmen and liars) fall into?
The solution?
Whenever any organism is attacked, it counter-attacks. (Organisms which submit to diseases like islam, die off).
Cells which have already been successfully co-opted by the disease are also destroyed by the white blood cells.
No problem was ever solved by ignoring it, yet the criminally negligent greed-creed motto of those in charge always seems to be the exact opposite, that: “There’s No Money In Solutions! Whee!” (and its corollary: “It’s not broken, so let’s fix it!”)
The real reason the islamic threat is being ignored in public, is this not-so-nascent “Globalization” movement, which is clearly treason to ALL sovereign national people’s governments. It’s a plutocratic kleptocracy to be run by all those corporazis who never want to pay any taxes to anyone, anywhere, ever; by the global communazi labour guys who want free movement and the same lowest common denominator wages for their 3rd-world slaves, and of course by the moslems who want their one-world islamic ummah, to be run by their theocratic caliphate government. It’s a triple-threat. Against all these evil forces, we have only the Truth … while only they currently control both the fear and the greed.
As long as ONLY the enemy controls both the behavioural conditioning binaries of the stick (fear of personally having one’s own family firebombed or beheaded by the Jihad) and the carrot (greed for oil-money bribes), those sales-puppets we laughingly call “our leaders” and their complicit media presstitute pets will insist on maintaining their preposterously backwards, victim-blaming “narrative” that only we are to blame for the Qur’an’s 1,400 years of hate, so that we should all “Submit and learn how to be better victims!”
As long as we remain the lesser threat to them, “our leaders” will continue to ignore islam.
hannahlu52 says
If there are any men remaining, now would be a good time to get it together and fight this beast.
Actually, it should have been fought years ago, but it seems to many were busy with life.
There are quite a few in the States who are pushing back against the beast and it would be a good thing if those across Europe would take their cue from them.
Get up now to fight. If men and women remain quiet, they’ll no doubt seal their country’s fate.
hannahlu52 says
The world has gone mad.