New Zealanders — men as well as women — are also being asked to wear the hijab this Friday. The shock and horror that Jacinda Ardern and other New Zealanders are feeling over the attack is understandable. The good intentions of these initiatives are obvious. Unfortunately, however, it will henceforth be difficult, if not completely impossible, to discuss the jihad threat in New Zealand; anyone who does so will be accused of fueling the hatred that led to the Christchurch massacre. So it can reasonably be expected that in the coming years, New Zealand will be a hospitable place for jihadis and Sharia supremacists, and any resistance to their initiatives will be stigmatized into insignificance.
“NZ Prime Minister orders national broadcast of Muslim call to prayer this Friday,” Michael Smith News, March 21, 2019 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
On television.
On radio.
In the New Zealand Parliament and government buildings.
There’ll be no escaping Islam’s Adhan (Muslim call to prayer) this Friday, the Muslim sabbath.
Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has announced a two-minute silence will be observed on Friday to mark a week since the Christchurch mosque shootings.
Ms Ardern spoke at a press conference in Christchurch this afternoon when she made the announcement.
“I know from many there is a desire to show support to the Muslim community as they return to mosques, particularly on Friday.
“There is also a desire amongst New Zealanders to mark the week that has passed since the terrorist attack.
“To acknowledge this, there will be a two-minute silence on Friday. We will also broadcast nationally via TVNZ and RadioNZ the Call to Prayer.”…
mortimer says
Virtue-signalling, stupid idiots. They have no idea what they are doing.
There’s an old expression: don’t just do something; stand there. They are completely CLUELESS about Islamic doctrines, but present themselves, preposterously, as experts on Islam.
The jihadists are laughing their guts out!
EMPD says
Of course they know what they are doing: eradicating Christianity/Christians. That is the sole purpose of Islam and the Islamists are only too happy to accommodate the possessed left with bloody jihad.
Ed Lee says
You’re wrong on the purpose of Islam. The primary purpose of Islam is to eradicate all religion other than Islam. Christians and Jews are at the top of their enemies list, but they are not the only ones on the list. Review the definition of the word kafir.
mortimer says
Imho, the ‘purpose’ of Islam is to create a sadomasochistic torture chamber for kafirs who reject the prophethood of Mohammed. The reward for jihadis is eternal erections in Islam’s pornographic paradise. Allah hates kafirs, so Muslims are required to hate them too. Muslims are Allah’s bounty hunters and the Koran is a troop motivator.
gravenimage says
True, Ed.
JW_Reader says
Quran 5.33 : The recompense of those who wage war against Allaah and His Messenger and do mischief in the land is only that they shall be killed or crucified or their hands and feet be cut off on the opposite sides, or be exiled from the land.
Rod Sexton says
Kiwis are an isolated people…many are peasants.
Frederick King says
true. The maori religion would be wiped out by islamists. “Not religions of the book.”
gravenimage says
Rod Sexton wrote:
Kiwis are an isolated people…many are peasants.
……………….
What a lot of claptrap. Per Capita GDP in New Zealand is USD $38,502, which is quite high globally. Higher education rates there are among the highest in the world. How does any of this make them “peasants”?
That so many New Zealanders are clueless about Islam should not surprise–this is common throughout the West.
Christine Job says
The west has lost their minds!!! There is no peaceful coexistance with Islam. Only while they are a minority in a country, but lookout as they gain a majority. Study history people, dont be fools. How do you think islam spread? By the sword, now it is just biding its time. The most evil ideology to be perpetuated on women!!!!!
mortimer says
The media are FASCINATED WITH ANALYZING THE IDEOLOGY of Brenton Tarrant, but they NEVER, NEVER READ ISLAM’S MOST TRUSTED PRIMARY SOURCES to examine the IDEOLOGY OF POLITICAL ISLAM !!! Why not?
The JOURNALISTS ARE LAZY VIRTUE-SIGNALLING HYPOCRITES.
gravenimage says
Spot on, Mortimer.
christianblood says
EMPD posted
(…Of course they know what they are doing: eradicating Christianity/Christians. That is the sole purpose of Islam and the Islamists are only too happy to accommodate the possessed left with bloody jihad…)
That is exactly right! Newzelanders should not allow the Islamization of their country! They should take their country back!
mgoldberg says
And when some muslim girl, in NZ, is murdered by her own family for not wearing the hijab, there will no discussion allowed as to the reason for the homicide by one’s own parents and or family. None. That will be forbidden as bigotry and or ‘racism’. There will be no calls for prayer, nor any two minutes of silence.
Note that there was not one muslim nation that wrang their hands in grief at last weeks homciding of twice as many african christians as were killed in NZ. Nowhere did muslims fall on their swords and cry in shame.
gravenimage says
Grimly true.
Rufolino says
For the BBC, the horrifying murder of Christians in Nigeria didn’t happen -but days after the event, the mosque attack in NZ is STILL being headlined.
Michael Rudland says
My thoughts also. I tried to point this out on the Daily Mail website. Needless to say, they didn’t post it.
Savvy Kafir says
So true! You would think that people who are so determined to whitewash Islam and normalize it in the West would do a little research on their pet religion/people — in the hope that it will give them ammunition to use in countering critics of Islam. But it never seems to happen. How could so many millions of people be so intellectually lazy, regarding a topic they seem to be so passionate about? It really is mystifying. And possibly unprecedented.
Nightstwolf says
Chilling precedence
Prov 29:25
flow in says
i keep posting links to the koran and hadith, challenging liberals to read them. they generally refuse, they know better. I need a safe country to claim asylum in, nz has fallen
Dawne says
In all seriousness, where is a safe country now? I can’t find any. I ask not for myself as I am old, but for my children and grandchildren.
Carol the 1st says
Arden has a brain that lives in”
1/ ignorance
2/ denial
3/ callow impressions, and/or
3/ some deranged hope for “pie in the sky”.
A horse has better sense and perspective.
Dr. Steve Turley just put this out:
Jordan Peterson’s ’12 Rules for Life’ BANNED from Whitcoulls in NZ!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=os2geRJ-ARw
Paul J says
That they are Mortimer, laughing all the way to their arms caches full of AK’s and mortars and explosives stored in their barracks(sorry mosques). This commie PM and her sycophants are committing treason by disarming the citizens of NZ, just as Australian Authorities did the same to us. Large parts of Sydney and Melbourne look just like the UK and Western Europe and will only get worse now. Wellington, Auckland and Christchurch will soon be the same. This act of treachery by her will only embolden Islam in NZ. Anyone who speaks out will will be charged with “hate crimes” as per the UK. Police already are conducting searches on social media to identify and charge people with “far right extremist views”.
Debi Brand says
“Virtue-signalling…,” stated mortimer.
Indeed, indeed it is. No doubt about it.
“There’ll be no escaping Islam’s Adhan (Muslim call to prayer) this Friday, the Muslim sabbath.”
Lydia Church says
I don’t live there, but if I did, I would NOT comply with this in any way!!!
It is fine to mourn the dead, but you don’t have to capitulate to islam to do it!
This is just a false flag or being used as one to hand NZ over to islam on a silver platter.
I would NOT wear the hijab, not listen to any of their broadcasts, not participate in any other way, and put headphones on during that ‘call to prayer’ time and listen to Christian hymns instead.
Then, I would pray for the families of the deceased, that someone shares the gospel with them so that they can come to know the one and only God and true faith; Christianity and the Christian God of the Bible.
And I know what is coming. This is just a dress rehearsal for the big event. And I know the feeling of not complying. I know it well. I carry my cross daily and am no stranger to non participation in things like this. I don’t live in an ivory tower, rather am very much in the midst of things.
They will have a big tragedy of some form like this and then call for a world wide interfaith gathering or maybe even with an islamic slant to it. Just like this happened overnight, so will that. I think this is the test run for how it can be exploited. Those who don’t comply in lock step conformity with their scheduled ceremonies and events… and it will be obvious… will be the new pariahs and eventually carted off as ‘terrorists,’ ‘extremists,’ ‘far right threats,’ etc. And of course it will be just the thing that a true Christian cannot participate in. You can’t go to any ‘interfaith’ thing because that is acknowledging false gods. It’s not that your ‘god’ is in the bag too so it’s okay, it’s that other gods are in the bag too so it’s not okay. And islamic leanings are even worse. Anyway the early Christians knew these things and that is why they went to the Coliseum as martyrs, the only correct choice to make and path to take since you can’t deny Jesus. Matthew 10; 32-33 and many more.
Look for these items to be part of the agenda:
interfaith, converging of religions, showing solidarity and unity with those of other religions (i.e.: islam)
diversity, solidarity with ‘minority’ races and immigrants/migrants,
borderless issues, international cooperation for ‘good causes’
world ‘peace’ and unity
inclusion, tolerance, oneness of everything and anything
transgender issues and all manner of sin as your ‘identity’ or ‘right’
…..basically everyone is the ‘victim’, it’s an appeal to pity stunt, and if you don’t go along you will be labeled as a ‘meanie,’ a ‘hater,’ a ‘bigot’ a ‘discriminator,’ a ‘terrorist’ and ‘extremist’ and a ‘far right winger’ ‘white nationalist’ etc. etc. etc.
…..if you are a Christian, a conservative, a Caucasian, and a male with some assets to your name you are looked at as the ‘dominating force’ of ‘imperialism and colonialism’ that is the ‘oppressor’ and all the others are the ‘victims’ in this script that have been ‘exploited’ all over the world like indigenous people’s and the ‘evil’s’ of Columbus, etc. etc. and then you stand out even more… I’ve seen this mentality all over the place.
Well I am all of these but not male and don’t have many assets to my name…!
( ;
I don’t go along with any of their ‘oneness’ false flag events like those listed above.
I know that…
JESUS IS THE ONLY SOLUTION TO THE WORLD’S PROBLEMS
World peace is not possible without the return of Christ
The cross is the only way to be reconciled to God as we are all sinners at birth
All other religions are false, there is no unity with them
I am not ‘one’ with anyone but God and His church, we are separate from the world
What the Bible calls a sin is a sin and not your identity or your right, we don’t ‘accept’ these sins
We preach the gospel that people need to repent of their sins and get saved by coming to Jesus, otherwise there is no unity with them.
Only God is God, nothing else is divine.
That is the truth. But it it is 100% antithetical to the message of the antichrist (you know who). Most will bite the bait of his false solutions that are opposite to God’s Word and they don’t even know it!
Rob says
Lydia I do live here and on both of our behalfs, I ignored the observation of the 2 mins silence. Instead I focussed my thoughts on Saffie Rousos aged 8 blown up at Manchester Arena along with about 9 other teens. I also thought of those killed at Boston, Ft Hood, Orlando, London and many many other locations.
Kay says
Bless you Rob
tim gallagher says
Rob, I’ve done the same as you. Because there have been so many more non-Muslims who have been victims of Muslim terrorism, I have tended to think of them and not given much thought at all to the Muslim victims at the New Zealand mosque. Had I been in NZ, I would have avoided the over the top carry on there.
somehistory says
Rob
++100
billybob says
more proof was in the video that this was a thought out with just this type of agenda happening.Why else did the NZ PM ban the live stream. Could it be to hide the fact that people were already laying in the corners slumped over before the shooting ever started.All laying face down, Outside you can see the shell casings being ejected and disapearing into thin air before they hit the ground. You can see the so called terrorist firing gun from inside his car at the windscreen yet the windscreen does not break. Could it be that the NZ PM wants to hide the truth about what really happened.The video clearly showed 2 corners with people all laying face down in the corner. Surely at least 1 person must have been facing the shooter and landed on their back. In the left hand corner after a sporadic hail of “gunfire?” you see one person at the back of the pile lift their head and look around and then put their head down calmly. Something smells like rotten fish. not in NZ so no problem accessing video
mortimer says
MEDIA IGNORE JIHAD IDEOLOGY but they are FASCINATED WITH the NZ shooter!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OencpRMNWZA
Joe Z. Wells says
New Zealand. This is what SURRENDER looks like!
mortimer says
New Zealand’s government is no doubt petrified that they will lose lamb and other meat contracts with Muslim countries. Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
Meanwhile, Western countries and their clueless elites lead the people like lambs, gagged, and dumb to the Islamic slaughter at the hands of jihadis. 50 people are being killed by jihadis EVERY DAY OF THE YEAR.
Lance says
@mortimer, you have an interesting perspective on this event based on your previous post. Another perspective to ponder perhaps, Albert Pike. It is interesting to note that for decades the (more extreme) muslim and islamic movement had been ‘contained’ to a certain region on this good planet of ours.
Is it just me or has the islamic movement (driven by certain PTB) now invaded your/our way of life in just about every western country. Albert Pike’s conditions for a NWO to ascend to power has been correct for the both WW1 and WW2.
I am just waiting for the narrative to change from muslim refugees to ‘conflict of ideologies’ between said refugees and their host countries.
Gee, I wonder what is going on in Finland, Sons of Odin ring a bell?
Break out the sun-screen and ray-bans. It will be interesting to see what happens when some false-flag ‘white guy’ shoots out one of those prayer blasting mega-phones.
gravenimage says
The Albert Pike “prophecy”, which I suppose you are referring to, is a well-known hoax.
Save Europe says
Correct M! 75 percent of NZ lamb which the UK imports is Halal…..and I don’t thank NZ for this….
Hone says
You are perhaps not aware that the party that Jacinda (many here call her Taxinda) heads got a minority of votes, and she just squeaked into power with the Greens another extreme virtue signalling lot, and NZ First headed by a lying veteran politician on his swansong. Taxinda is very shrewd, knows how to look virtuous, but also knows she will be desperate for votes at the next election. Plus we have a big population of people who know nothing about Islam. Easy to manipulate ignorant people.
gravenimage says
Thanks for that background information.
Westman says
I can assure you that the NZ men will not be wearing hijabs or making any other concessions even if the PM asks for it. This foul deed was done by an Australian, not a Kiwi.
These Kiwis are fiercely independent fellows who play Rugby at the local parks on the weekend at 35 years of age. Most know how to repair their own automobiles and maintain a home.They will give you the shirt off their backs unless you demand it; which is a serious mistake that Islam should avoid.
Take a look at those historic Maori war clubs and ponder their past use. There is no doubt that Pakeha and Maori would work together, should it be necessary, to oppose any future aggression by Muslims, particularly in sparsely settled areas where law enforcement only exists by the general good behavior and common values of the community. Great people, great country.
NZ is the perfect place for Islam to leave jihad behind and transition into the modern world. If it can’t be a good neighbor in NZ, then it won’t be a good neighbor, anywhere.
gravenimage says
Yes–that so many in New Zealand are cringing when this shooting was not even done by a New Zealander is insane (not that I am blaming Australians in general, either,of course–almost all of whom disavow this mass murderer)
Geoffrey de Brito says
It is theologically IMPOSSIBLE for “Islam to leave jihad behind and transition into the modern world.”
Here’s why; Muhammad’s most basic claim was that he is NOT the Qur’an’s author. He repeatedly and consistently claimed that Allah repeatedly sent the archangel Gabriel to Muhammad, to transmit to Muhammad for transcription, Allah direct testimony. With Gabriel there to make sure that Muhammad got it exactly right.
Since fallible mankind is literally incapable of ‘correcting’ INFALLIBLE Allah, not one word, not even a comma can be changed or struck from Allah’s message.
So, to reform Islam, the Qur’an MUST be revised. But to do that implicitly declares Muhammad to have either been deluded or a liar. In either case, Islam’s theological foundations utterly collapse.
Obviously, Islam’s Imams and Mullahs know this, and that is why I’ve concluded that Islam’s jihadist attacks are reactive…
Islam’s fundamentalist Imams and Mullahs sense that the modern world’s inadvertent cultural intrusion (movies, TV programs, articles on the internet, music, fashions, etc.) are a MORTAL threat to Islam’s 7th century totalitarian ideology. And that is why they believe themselves to be in a fight to the death. Either the modern world dies or Islam dies. That they can’t eliminate the modern world is irrelevant because they are in the deepest sense of the term… ‘religious’ fanatics and thus immune to reason, logic and factual persuasion.
The West won’t face this reality until millions have been sacrificed to Islam’s slaughter.
somehistory says
This is terrible. But not unexpected. She was trying to force President Trump…”on behalf of all of the American people” to express sympathy, and support, etc. for moslims due to the attacks. Mr. Trump angered her by refusing to do so.
Now, she is forcing islam on all of the people for whom she is supposed to be serving as PM. She is giving NZ over to islam as a church is where moslims are allowed to pray, in the minds of all moslims. NZ will now belong to them.
simpleton1 says
Prime Minister Ardern is playing to her fan club
She has a very loose tongue, and can not really keep track what comes out, with her knee jerk reactions that she has to make noise believing herself.
It is costing NZ in many other areas of government.
For the ones who think she is fine as a leader, offer her the job in your country, please take her, not that I wish her upon any country, but some say she has UN aspirations.
somehistory says
simpleton1
That is interesting. It is the exact opposite of the news report I read, and it wasn’t on a conservative news…if they exist any more…web site. The news I have seen, all write in the overwhelming sympathy for the moslims, with the usual asides about the “phobia.’
I have sympathy for the victims, but also for the “victims” being made after the attack by people such as she.
Dominic says
Did Muslims remove hijabs, sang Christian hyms in mosques in solidarity when thousands of religious duty massacres occured.?Noo they celebrated euphorically. Ironically the same “Allahu Akbar” is shouted out (belatedly) this time for Muslim victims.
simpleton1 says
Thank you somehistory.
Like you I have sympathy for the victims in that massacre.
Certainly no great stateswoman with an answer like that, playing to her fan base, or maybe a point for getting a UN job? but not considering New Zealand overall.
In 2008, she was elected President of the International Union of Socialist Youth for 2 years.
Great thanks for seeing the wider fuller picture. I appreciate that.
Battle says
If Christians would even have one minute of silence? As for Islam women head coverings wearing for those targeted to be subjugated and Islam call to prayer for those targeted to be subjugated, how stupid. Jacinta Ardern ignorant.
tedh754 says
I wonder what was being preached in that mosque.
dexter says
Watch Avi Yemeni on YouTube and you’ll find out
gravenimage says
Apparently it has links to those involved with Al Qaida.
Jay says
New Zealand will soon be as lost as Germany, France, England, Sweden,Norway, Italy, etc etc.
This PM is clueless about Islam and their war against us! The mosque attack is very sad, but where is the outrage about the numerous attacks on Christians worldwide done on a daily basis by Muslims??
The double standard by the PM of New Zealand is appalling and dangerous!
God save the world from this insanity!??
Dawne says
NZ will be lost quicker because it has such a tiny population. If things don’t change it will be overwhelmed and a Sharia compliant state within the next decade.
gravenimage says
Right now New Zealand is under 1% Muslim.
Geoffrey de Brito says
Care to place a bet as to how long that will last?
gravenimage says
Alas, the Muslim population is growing almost everywhere.
Pam Minnick says
You can bet that muslims all over are laughing their asses off because of this, after all what do we get from the muslim communities when there’s a Islamic terrorist attack, them worrying about backlash. NZ is going to see a muslim uprising now, stupid stupid people!
Anjuli Pandavar says
Given this unexpected advance in the cause of Allah, do the victims now become “martyrs”? Well, they died without killing. They were murdered and no infidel died in the process. End result: an infidel killed in the cause of Allah, albeit unintentionally. What does the Shari’a say about this kind of killing in the way of Allah? Should Muslims be rejoicing? Or should they put the lives of 49 Muslims before the advancement of Islam? How does the ulema pronounce on this?
gravenimage says
As many Muslims see it, this advances the cause of Islam–all most of them really care about.
mortimer says
Imho, GI, as many as 85% of Muslims are not paying attention to politics. They go to their jobs and live highly SEGREGATED lives and associate as little as possible with the dirty kufaar. Many of the mothers stay at home and seldom associate with kafirs.
gravenimage says
Mortimer, the majority of Muslims even in the West want to see the imposition of Shari’ah law. While they will not all wage violent Jihad themselves, all pious Muslims applaud the spread of Islam, most of them by any means.
Geoffrey de Brito says
Don’t kid yourself, they’re paying full attention. They’re just laying low till Muslims reach a high enough percentage of the population. Islam has been doing this for many, many centuries.
Search for “hijrah” translation: “migratory jihad”.
Carol the 1st says
“Laying low” is exactly what the Muslim Brotherhood advocates as the beginning tactic. These are the engineers discovering the lay of the land and creating a good impression.
simpleton1 says
NZ being called by PM Adhern, for the adhan
https://www.approachguides.com/blog/guide-to-the-islamic-call-to-prayer-adhan/
The hobbits rejected the call of the rings. 🙂
Many battles to be fought in NZ are more than just a film location.
Guy Forester says
Well, the NZ citizens had better start standing firm now. This “shot fired that is heard around the world” is not the same as the one fired at the Old North Bridge in Concord, nor on Bunker Hill, nor on Lexington Green. This is the call to subjugation. Well, NZ, what will you do?
FYI says
The koran always reminds me a bit of the equally fictional Lord of the Rings,with the cognitively dissonant Gollum representing allah{or the MSP,muhammed’s sock puppet} who loves to call himself WE,and in k27.17 it tells of Solomon{ the Muslim one},that he had armies of “the jinn,and humankind… and BIRDS”,there are talking ants too..and let’s not forget.. .the wizard muhammed’s flying horse with a{predictably}female face, Buraq…the sinister “angel” Jibreel{“the enemy of the Jews”}and Umar the Loiterer{mo’s friend and advisor that apparently liked hanging around the women’s toilet watching them dress and suggested women needed to cover-up,which miraculously, resulted in allah having the same idea..}
Gollum’s multiple contrasting facial expressions ,usually in the space of a short time,remind me of allah’s{muhammed’s sock puppet}contradictory teachings and personality disorder.
Just as Gollum is at war with { and constantly contradicts}himself and everybody else,that’s a bit like allah the “best of deceivers” k3:54
“We gives the Torah to the Jewsies and they takes it and writes it in HEBREW..Us hates that *ugh*The Christians stole the Gospel from us and corrupted it.Nasty Little Tricksies!Curse us and crush us!My precious-s-s koran is lost”
A shame muslims don’t realize the koran is a work of fiction: knowing that there is a TALKING INFANT WHO SPEAKS LIKE AN ADULT in the koran k19:30 means it has to be a nonsensical book.
simpleton1 says
Thanks FYI.
A good castings of characters.
We need a movie of Mohammad, and in NZ the Lord of the Rings, producer/director is here.
A gentle push for him to delve into the depths of Mohammadism, and he will find truth is even stranger than fiction.
Mohammad’s ‘spells’ with Gabriel, and then the spell now being cast over PM Adhern, and her followers, to wrap up NZ.
How to break the spell? Information, knowledge, free speech, knowing and respecting who we are.
Carol the 1st says
Gollum rocks!
gravenimage says
The biggest difference is that the Lord of the Rings celebrates goodness and decency, and the Qur’an lauds evil and savagery.
simpleton1 says
And as the story is not complete yet, we must complete it; and as so the ring went back into Mount Doom, then so with tough love, knowledge of truth, and application of wisdom, so also the koran etc. should also be returned to its fiery doom and extinction..
We all have a part to play in this, to push and pull that koran to its doom.
gravenimage says
Hear, hear!
Geoffrey de Brito says
Allahu Akbar does NOT translate as “God is the greatest” that is a lie promoted by the leftist media. Allahu Akbar translates as, “Our God is greater than yours!”
Carol the 1st says
Well they have to cling and submit to the most “PRECIOUS” thing in their lives, don’t they”?
simpleton1 says
A remembrance of all terror victims.
Lest we forget the many killed in terror.
gravenimage says
+1
Paul Saunders says
Did the Prime Sinister also change the New Zealand Constitution to make Islam the supreme law of the land as Islam requires. Sympathy for victims is not expressed by surrendering your own identity and principles.
mara says
NZ does not have a Constitution; more is the pity but if one were to be instituted now it would be a progressive shambles. The PM of NZ is not fit for purpose.
simpleton1 says
Censorship is being swung all around in New Zealand.
“Jordan Peterson book is no longer for sale from Whitcoulls in New Zealand following the Christchurch terror attack”
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/entertainment/2019/03/jordan-peterson-s-12-rules-for-life-removed-from-whitcoulls-following-christchurch-terror-attack.html
Geoff Rankin says
WTF What has that got to do with this matter. They have also banned the film, ‘Mumbai’, for som idiotic ideological reason. Te woman is a prized sycophant and traitor to her nation.
simpleton1 says
Ardern has so many supporters, who like her, believe in unconscious racism, continuing colonist oppression.
Pointing at a white supremacist that killed 50 and any supporters as I pointed out are looking to take control where ever they feel there is a case.
Whitcoull censorship or self-censorship is just another symptom of this malaise, of impinging on “free speech”, which has been de-platformed for some speakers here in NZ., in the past year.
That is what it is about ! ! !
All ‘Virtue signalling’ like PM Ardern with hijab days, “Kindness” speeches at the UN and a government budget that will be a “well being” budget.
gravenimage says
Appalling censorship.
Seth says
They do like their sheep over there.
Ardern is an exceptionally stupid creature, a true product of our benighted times. Just get it over and done with: recite the shahada and wear a hijab full-time.
Rob says
Yet she had no qualms visiting the ultra-conservative Pacific Islands nations as a pregnant unwed woman and with her BF in tow and expecting them to be treated as NZ’s First Couple.
Jack Cade says
All you Kiwis bend over and apply vaseline to the prescribed area.
Pat A Ashcraft says
It was a horrible thing but forcing a Muslim call to prayer on Christians is going too far. Would she force a Christian call to prayer on the Muslim community?
Dawne says
Any NZ citizens on here seriously need to write to her and/or tweet her to ask exactly this and also to your parliamentary representative. Also ask why she is wearing the symbol of female oppression? If she agrees with the hijab she needs to stand down as PM, cos women should not rule over men in Islam.
simpleton1 says
Just what can I say?
Only approved ways of thinking and talking will be allowed, as there can be consequences, and now that is true in NZ.
dumbledoresarmy says
“Any NZ citizens on here seriously need to write to her and/or tweet her to ask exactly this and also to your parliamentary representative. Also ask why she is wearing the symbol of female oppression? If she agrees with the hijab she needs to stand down as PM, cos women should not rule over men in Islam.” Yes. All NZ-based jihadwatchers need to be writing not only to PM Arden but also to their own MPs. Write briefly, politely and *pointedly*.
gravenimage says
Spot on, DDA.
Niemoller says
The doltish NZ PM and her leftist cretins now will ban guns, ban criticism of Islam and will open the flood gates to Islamist immigration, thereby becoming as effectively evil as the racist terrorist himself, but by many times over.
Heidi says
She is the living example (among others like Merkel) that all artificial intelligence is nothing compared to natural stupidity.
Rotem N. says
Hijab is basically a symbol for women oppression…
Jessinda and her followers – You’re PATHETIC!!!
VRWC member77 says
Does she also “stand-in-support” for the Iranian government that has and continues to imprison women for NOT wearing the hijab?………Logic would say yes, I reckon so. This women is a vile pig inn my opinion along with tens of millions of others.
Rob says
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/christchurch-shooting/111473440/headscarves-movement-means-well-but-it-is-cheap-tokenism
owensgate says
ASTONISHING! The muzzies have just learned that if they do several “False Flag” attacks by themselves on their own mosques (and remember, muslim lives are expendable to achieve a muslim goal), NZ would probably convert en masse and add Arabic to their list of official languages, if not actually converting all Christian Churches to mosques.
gravenimage says
There *are* a lot of hoax “hate crimes”–but what happened in New Zealand was not one of them.
owensgate says
I never meant to imply the subject attack was a “false flag” event. You didn’t read what I said. The muzzies now see that the “attack” garnered maximum sympathy toward them. They got the PM to don a hijab and proclaim the “call to prayer” throughout all of NZ, and by extension of this for their cause of total domination, it’s now conceivable that, say, they could have band of shia muzzies attack a sunni, or whichever (we infidels don’t know the difference anyway) mosque, and get even MORE “sympathy” and concessions. Most of the “Left” is going to convert, eventually, and the rest of us will lose our heads.
Paul J says
That’s the way to do it, sunni kills shia and then blame a white supremacist. The sheeple will fall over themselves to show support for the poor muslims. Allah is the greatest of decievers and so are his followers.
gravenimage says
Agreed, owensgate.
Lance Steele says
One more excellent example of the fact that “You can’t fix stupid”.
Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY) says
“New Zealanders — men as well as women — are also being asked to wear the hijab this Friday.”
Please recite the Quran passage that allows men to wear women’s headgear.
gravenimage says
This is particularly stupid…
Dawne says
Wonder how many Muslim men in NZ will be wearing the hijab. The woman is totally stupid.
Paul J says
So are the men that will wear one, and so are the people that voted for this traitor.
Jeanne Zaks says
Worse than that horrible New Zealand mosque attack , but does beg the question as to where the media is ? Does anybody care for Africa in the West you do know about the genocide of christians in africa recently.
Mike says
The left obviously does not care about the Christian genocide neither do the greens or labor or Democrats in USA .You would think a common sense imigration program would be to help the minorities get out and come to safer places .
Joe says
I asked this question on Breitbart and it was censored. Several days later, I tried to comment on a different story, and it was not allowed. I assume that I’m banned from Breitbart for at a while for asking for some fairness in reporting. I never said anything that should have been censored; I was only pointing to the fact that murders of this type happen every day and do not get press coverage. Somehow it is news when Muslims are murdered, and it is not news when non-Muslims are murdered.
Kilauea says
Muslims killing non-Muslims in the West is not news because it happens everyday. Muslims getting killed by non-Muslims is news because it is rare and the MSM is all in for the Muzzies.
Paul J says
Spot on. To report on every muslim attack to the same degree that the NZ shooting has been reported would leave very little air time for ANY other news. There is so many of them (muslim attacks). Even sport and the weather would be limited to a 30 second spot.
Lee says
She is another “useful idiot” for the Muslims.
Mike says
As others have mentions Muslims most common victims of terrorism is their ancestral lands becoming a Muslim still wont save us!
Wellington says
Beyond idiotic. Lethal actually. I consider this Prime Minister of New Zealand a facilitator of the one religion which seeks to dominate all the earth, by force if necessary (and it will be necessary).
And when has a Muslim country ever engaged in a day of sympathy for slaughtered Christians or Jews and Muslims aplenty of that country have worn for a day a Crucifix or a Star of David in commemoration? One way street once again. Besides, the Crucifix and Star of David are not symbols of repression but the hijab most definitely is.
Getting back to this pathetic excuse for a PM, compassion without wisdom and knowledge not only means very little, it is a negative. One knows this or should know this. She certainly doesn’t. Meanwhile, Christians in Africa and Asia are slaughtered by Muslims en masse and the world doesn’t give a damn. What a phony and stupid world we live in.
gravenimage says
Good points.
andrew mckendrick says
New Zealand has its Lady Diana day.
Mike says
Obviously the NZ PM does not understand or care that the head covering is a symbol of the opression of women – https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/rendezview/this-is-a-symbol-of-oppression-please-dont-celebrate-it/news-story/45843572e31a0cda3b2218d63f419fd8
tim gallagher says
The level of sucking up to the Muslims by this leftie New Zealand Prime Minister (and, I guess, her advisors and other members of her government) is unbelievable. I understand it to a degree, because this massacre is such a terrible and shocking event in what is usually a very quiet, peaceful country. So, the country is in shock. But surely this appalling imposition on everyone (on the government run radio) of the MUslim call to prayer will surely be seen by Muslims as a pathetic surrender to their evil cause of trying to impose Islam on everyone. I think the Muslims will see it as the soft non-Muslims putting up the white flag of surrender. It will probably embolden them. Also, this imbecilic idea of having all women ( and men as well !!) wearing the oppressive hijabs…What the hell. This level of surrender is pathetic. It has gone way too far.
Brian hoff says
Man in the middle east cover they head as protection from the sun light.
gravenimage says
Which has *nothing* to do with the Hijab, which is often murderously enforced on its victims, and whose purpose is to mark out which uncovered Infidels can be raped by savage Muslim men.
“Brian hoff”–really, “DefenderofIslam”–hopes we do not know these things.
tim gallagher says
gravenimage, because you live in the USA, I was wondering who are the politicians in your country who are taking a tough stance on Islam? I know Trump has tried to be pretty tough. I think I heard of Allen West a while back, probably a couple of years back the way time goes.. You know, I’m talking about people like Wilders and the Le Pens, Orban, Tommy Robinson also although I guess he hasn’t actually won a seat in Parliament that I know of. Here in Australia, Pauline Hanson and maybe Bernardi ( probably only a little) have had the guts to get stuck into Islam. Fraser Anning has been really ferocious in his comments but he’s been monstered by everyone for his comments and made an outcast, although I think he’s spoken the truth.Who are the politicians in the USA that are awake to Islam and speak up fearlessly about it? I’ve often wondered who they are. I figure you must have some people who resemble Wilders and the Le Pens to some degree. Thanks for your comment, Mario. I’ve found this New Zealand reaction ( full on surrender really) way over the top.
gravenimage says
Tim, Allen West. Peter King, and Michele Bachmann immediately come to mind–I’m sure there are more. President Trump is not bad, either.
Sadly, I live in a very “blue” part of the country. Most of the politicians in my neck of the woods are pretty clueless about Islam.
Paul J says
Unfortunately this will only get worse as more and more left wing feminists and their soy boy arse kisses enter the parliaments of the west. Wait until the Labor/ greens get into power in Australia later this year Tim, we are rooted then mate. We NEED more Pauline Hansons in politics, not commie labor bitches and dingbats like Sarah Hanson Young. Any women especially with leftist views should be barred from politics, they are dangerous and bad influence on others. We need more conservative women (conservative men are demonized) in politics, there just isn’t enough to counter these traitors on the left, so therefore the left controls the narrative in politics AND society.
tim gallagher says
I agree with you, Paul J, that, if the Labor/Greens mob win the federal election in May, which everyone seems to think will happen, Australia will be in big trouble. I just keep thinking that most people are going to wake up to the dangerous enemy that Islam is, but it never seems to happen. I believe you are right about the dominance of the left and the way it controls the narrative. The left have marched through the universities, the media, the school teachers, etc. There are, at least, some conservatives in the media who fight against the leftist garbage. Not enough of them though. I enjoy Jihad Watch because the people who comment here are wide awake to what a danger Islam represents. If only more of the population of Australia and every other country would wake up. Anyway, I live in hope that the vast majority will wake up.
sheliak says
The political, media religious and social opinion mavens in the west are surrendering on every front in this war and guaranteeing an unspeakably violent and bloody clash in the near future.
Dan M. says
So much for the Kiwis pointing the way for the return of western civilization:
“The timid civilized world has found nothing with which to oppose the onslaught of a sudden revival of barefaced barbarity, other than concessions and smiles.” -Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
“We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.” -Benjamin Franklin
Indiana Tom says
“To acknowledge this, there will be a two-minute silence on Friday. We will also broadcast nationally via TVNZ and RadioNZ the Call to Prayer.”…and then we will confiscate all the semi auto guns from the evil white people so Muslims can attack at will.
Ashley says
The shock and horror that Jacinda Ardern and other New Zealanders are feeling over the attack is understandable. The good intentions of these initiatives are obvious.
____________________
Thank you, Robert Spencer. Your words refreshed my spirit.
I have no desire to stick my head into this lion’s mouth of topic. Too much hostility and vitriol for my taste.
Yes, Ardern donned a hijab. Never saw her donning one when speaking to the public/press about these attacks. Ever look at the mourning veil devout Catholic women don while observing their prolonged period of mourning? Black from head-to-toe, with a veil often covering the head and face. Think Jacqueline Kennedy… Her attire shocked the shit out of me when I saw the footage.
New Zealand is reeling on the heels of these mosque attacks. Ardern is walking a tight rope.
Ardern didn’t observe National Hijab Day…
This was a horrific event in New Zealand. A token of respect for the dead is in order. If only for two minutes…
I can stomach that…
I cannot stomach Islam, but I’m human enough to know that 50 dead people shot up at mosques isn’t the answer. Some of them toddlers, some elderly, some in the prime of their life…
somehistory says
Ashley
I can understand your comment.
It wasn’t any more correct for the guy to go on a shooting rampage, killing moslims, than it is for moslims to go killing Christians, Jews and others. I’ve seen several photos of some of the children…three and four years old…killed and severely wounded, and it is heartbreaking. They were just little children, not much more than babies.
The problem is, the PM is jumping in with too much. Silence, and signs of mourning with her country are certainly understandable.
The ‘call to prayer’ over all of the medai outlets may seem to her as just a symbol of that mourning. But to the moslims who are trying to conquer the world for islam, it is a sign of surrender. They will all see it as owning all of the places where it was played, all of the places where it is said. I’m afraid her country is going to pay even more; and that any Christians and Jews there will not reap any benefit from this government action.
This will be painful for them to have to hear this proclamation that the ‘god’ of islam is the ‘only’ god and that the fake prophet is a ‘true’ one. Even if they turn off their sets, they will still be aware of it. And they will have to prepare for what comes next.
Kay says
+1
Wellington says
+2
gravenimage says
Good exchange, Ashley and Somehistory.
Wellington says
Sorry, Ashley, but here we disagree. The hijab is a sartorial symbol of the worst religion in history. What Jackie Kennedy wore in mourning is in no way comparable because the Catholic theological blueprint does not call for the rape of women who wouldn’t wear such garb for whatever reason while Islam’s theological blueprint, and as found in Suras 4, 23, 33 and 70 of the Koran itself, condones the rape of women who do not “cover themselves.”
The Prime Minister’s donning of an hijab does a great disservice to all those females who are, one way or another, threatened, even to the point of death, if they don’t wear an hijab. Moreover, displaying herself with no head covering while nonetheless indicating disgust with the killer’s cowardly actions would send a message of hope to women functioning in the Islamic sphere of mankind and also send a signal to the world that non-Muslims do not have to wear any Muslim garb in order to demonstrate contempt for killing the defenseless.
The Prime Minister wearing an hijab is craven, not laudable. Indeed, it sickens me. But I remain a fellow fighter with you against what Islam intends for us all and so this rare disagreement should not serve in any way as a rebuke to you. I fully support your right to aver what you did but just consider for a moment the dearth of rights that Muslims in bunches would deny you should you not wear an hijab—or wear a crucifix—or go with arms or legs uncovered—or, mon Dieu, openly criticize the one religion that will tolerate no criticism.
As ever I remain
non-Islamically yours,
Wellington
gravenimage says
Wellington, I think Ashley was condoning the moment of silence, not the PM wearing a Hijab.
Wellington says
Well, I admit I may be wrong but the Jackie Kennedy comparison is what led me to think that Ashley, whom I certainly respect, was in some way cutting the PM a break here. I most definitely am not. It was wrong and craven of the PM to wear an hijab just as somehistory indicated that broadcasting the Muslim call to prayer betokens surrender by the hated kuffaar. The two minutes of silence would have been enough and if this is all Ashley was condoning then I am sorry I misunderstood her.
gravenimage says
You may be right, Wellington.
somehistory says
Wellington
I agree with your assessment of the woman…who is supposed to represent the entire country..regarding the “don’t rape me, rape someone else” scarf.
It was a very, very, bad decision and never moslims will pay a heavy price for her capitulation to islam.
JMB says
One minutes silence would be appropriate, nothing more. Playing the Islamic call to prayer over the national broadcasting network is completely over the top. We should now get this back into perspective; An Australian gunman committed an unspeakably evil and horrendous crime in a peaceful part of NZ. A cowardly crime with 50 innocent lives taken. The NZ PM has shown leadership and compassion. As a follow-on for this show of leadership and compassion I would like to see the leaders of the Islamic world get up on to the world stage and show similar compassion and leadership for; the daily slaughter of Christians and the bombing of churches as well as the burning of Christian Homes in Nigeria. I would like to see a similar apology over the ongoing persecution and murder of Christians in Pakistan, I would like them to apologise for the ongoing burning of churches in Indonesia, an apology for the MURDER of 88 AUSTRALIANS in Bali just a few short years ago, AND ongoing expressions of regret and contrition over the murder of 3000 Americans in NY back in 2001.(All they say is ‘time to move on…)
gravenimage says
New Zealand’s Prime Minister dons hijab, orders national broadcast of Islamic call to prayer
……………….
I doubt very much that the Prime Minister understands that the Hijab is a call to rape Infidels, and that reciting the the Islamic call to prayer means the speaker has converted to Islam, which he cannot leave on pain of death. It also several times includes “Allahu Akbar!”, which Muslims scream while slaughtering Infidels in Jihad.
Does Jacinda Ardern understand any of this? Not likely…
Wellington says
I should imagine, gravenimage, that Ardern’s knowledge of Islam comes pretty close to being non-existent, though it would not surprise me in the least if you brought up to her Islam’s continued extensive atrocities to this very day (34,000+ just since 9/11, as I know you know, but would bet a month’s pension she doesn’t) that she would most likely bring up the faux comparison of Christians engaging in lethal behavior too in the name of their religion even though: 1) when they did so they were violating the tenets of their faith, contra big time Mo’s creed; and 2) Christians have ceased doing such things long ago.
109 verses in the Koran calling upon Muslims to wage war “until all the earth is with Allah” {Sura 8:39}, versus 0 verses in the New Testament calling upon Christians to do the same thing in the name of their faith, stands as highly refutative evidence of anything that can be said in the name of Islam. The PM of NZ doesn’t get this and way too many other people still don’t, even though by now it is long overdue they do. And Islam most certainly profits from this.
Islam invariably profits by ignorance of what it is really all about. Ignorance of Islam is a great ally of Islam, perhaps its greatest ally. The present PM of New Zealand certainly serves as an example of this verity. She is indeed right now just about the most destructive of useful idiots. Damn shame.
gravenimage says
Sadly agree, Wellington.
Crusades Were Right says
If – I mean WHEN – the jihad attacks begin in New Zealand, TWO things are certain:
* The government won’t be taking Korans from their owners, or closing mosques
* The political-media establishment won’t be putting the blame on the jihadists – rather it will be put on “white supremacists”, “Nazis”, and of course, “Islamophobes”
abad says
Ardern has literally handed New Zealand over to Islam on a silver platter.
Buh Bye New Zealand, you went down a lot faster than most Moslem-infested western nations.
Hoi Polloi says
OK. Won’t be going to NZ now. But you know who will be. Congratulations. What will NZ don and broadcast in honor of all the slaughtered Christians?
Asparagus Tip says
Voters of New Zealand, vote this idiot out of office ASAP.
Lil Miss Guided says
Got rid of church bells but happy for the Muslim call to prayer.
Very slippery slope.
I do hope all those African nations that had thousands of Christians massacred IN THEIR
CHURCHES by Muslims this month will be ringing church bells & demonising anyone who speaks out against Christians.
But of course the western media didn’t cover that at all. No!
It seems that Christians lives being killed in their own worship is of no consequence In comparison to Muslims.
So who is bigoted & biased now western media?
That would be YOU!
James Lincoln says
Robert Spencer states:
“New Zealanders — men as well as women — are also being asked to wear the hijab this Friday.”
My question to the group is simple: what would happen to these non-Muslim New Zealanders if they were NOT ALLOWED – by Muslims – to remove the hijab on Saturday?
R Russell says
Another turkey voting for Christmas – or should that be Eid?
diecheneydie says
Relax!
Alkimos says
More like Mr Ed….head like a bashed crab and brain to match.
diecheneydie says
Go for New Zealand! God bless the PM.
gravenimage says
Is “diecheneydie” in favor of New Zealand and the rest of the West toadying to the horrors of Islam, including forced veiling? It certainly sounds like it…
John says
Maybe she can add a prayer for the 100+ Christians killed by Muslims in Nigeria this past month.
CRUSADER says
Maoris should feel pissed off over this attempt at cultural appropriation of a distant culture presumed for Kiwi country….
CRUSADER says
Kiwi students sure are pissed!
Haka shows so….
New Zealand students honor shooting victims with haka dances
https://youtu.be/hmVjMdutQrc
Carol the 1st says
“Comments Disabled” – can’t imagine why!
El. Gallo says
Even is a mere civic religion in NZ these days, NZ is a Christian nation. Showing the CHristian respect for the murders is a great way to model. But kowtowing to Islam is a terrible error. As pointed out by those above, when do Islamic leaders mourn for murdered non-Muslims? Just in the last two weeks, many more CHristians were murdered by Islamists in Nigeria tha Muslims killed in NZ. Where are the Muslim leaders sorrowfully marking that latest slaughter?
Carol the 1st says
The New Zealand muslims have been “shaken”. Poor lambs.
Avi Yemeni says “We know of *at least* one occasion when an Indonesian sheikh was brought to the mosque to preach violent Jihad – in Christchurch – to the local community.”
He thinks the people who got killed are still “absolutely” innocent. Hmmm…i wonder if they were so “shaken” as to go to the local authorities to report upon such evil influences attempting to taint their Religion of Peace? I’ll bet they just shook it off.
Guy Forester says
Dear Citizens of NZ:
It appears to me that your PM, that you voted for, has just given a symbolic gesture of submission to a group that historically has enslaved, slaughtered, and disenfranchised any and all that it has conquered.
You are about to be disarmed and your rights to speak and associate freely may soon be a distant memory.
The difference between a slave or a serf and a free person (generic “freeman”) is the ability to possess weapons. Serfs and slaves are kept unarmed. Peasants (the mainly poor, uneducated or minimally educated) are also denied weapons by cost and often denied the right to vote, assemble, and protest as well.
You are about to become some version of serfs, slaves, or a best a permanent peasant class in your once free country. Thousands of your best young men (and no doubt some women as well) lost their lives fighting against Hitler, Kaiser Bill, the Japanese, and some communist inspired revolutions. All over the world!
What do you intend to do to remain a free country?
Terry Gain says
I had a long back and forth with an idiot on YouTube who thought the Manifesto and massacres were wonderful because they would lead to civil war with the white folk fighting Muslims. I told him exactly the opposite would happen and that it would now be difficult to even criticize Islam.
Few in the west even notice the slaughter of Christians in Muslim land or the lack of response form Muslim governments.
gravenimage says
You were quite right, Terry.
simpleton1 says
For me it is a tragedy, a real mess and mix of views. A part of the speech.
We must guard and maintain free speech.
The truth like a pea, can not be covered by a pillow.
Thanks to Robert Spencer, posters and commentators, in having patience, keeping to the truth, and providing room for great debate and discussion.
Laura says
Jihad is the problem worldwide, and so called ‘far right extremism’ is the predictable response to decades of muslim invasion, the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of Christians and people of other non-muslim faiths, the rise, and fall of ISIS, and disappointingly, the appearance of anti-Semitic muslims in western political circles. The script, to destroy western civilisation, has been written, and the political elites are following it…to the letter.
somehistory says
simpleton1
He said it happened because we fear the “way they dress, the food they eat,” which is just stupid. The “rape-her-don’t-rape-me” scarf is not “feared,” but must be seen for what it is.
He said it happened because we fear the “way they pray.” When they prey in the streets, blocking traffic, bellowing over the loudspeakers at all hours, this is something to *complain* about, but people don’t “fear” it.
It is a practice to impose on never moslims, to force everyone to see and hear them.
And this part shows that they do not really mourn the dead: He said it is “proof and evidence,” what their hoaxes haven’t. ‘Last week’s events are proof and evidence to the entire world that terrorism has no colour, has no race and has no religion.’
and then he says that “White supremacy” is the problem and must be stopped. “White” can be singled out for condemnation even though the attack was a tiny stat of the many, many attacks worldwide…most by moslims for a “religious” cause.
This is the way moslims wage a “non-violent jihad” using violence. They are violent and teach violence, but it’s the White people who must be stopped. I still think it might all have been a giant hoax or committed at the request and direction of moslims. Just so they could have “proof and evidence” to silence everyone.
Paul J says
Muslims have been known to kill each other. This attack certainly has advanced the cause of islam. Quite easy to write a manifesto designed to look like right wing propaganda and make the shooter appear to be a white supremacist (white men Have joined ISIS, yes?), the dead children have guaranteed their mothers entry to “paradise” and all the dead are regarded as martyrs. Allah is the greatest of decievers after all. What I believe is irrelevant but these are some points to ponder.
Carol the 1st says
I wonder if Imam Gamal Fouda was there when the Indonesian sheikh came a-courting?
kuriakose says
I guess it is time to rename Christchurch as Moohamadallah.
Seriously are the people in the West blind and deaf? Or have their brains have been reprogrammed?
Carol the 1st says
I’m sure it’s all about the sheep business and a constipated media. I’ll get over it – no problem. The world has taken a distinct turn to the Right and NZ needs to tune into the real wake-up calls before they find themselves mysteriously dispossessed.
Fritz says
Shameful, shameful, shameful submission! You see this deluded woman on television and you know what is coming. People like her (and their castrated male supporters) will bring the end of our civilisation. Never empower idiots who have lost all contact to reality.
And never, ever forget what real victims have to say about the hijab:
https://twitter.com/AsraNomani/status/1108345187540054016
https://twitter.com/ScrappyNoot1/status/1108380029032038400
Carol the 1st says
These brave, free-thinking women end up being gagged by suspiciously useful suck-up females who supposedly LOVE the freedom of a garment imposed by DEFAULT by their head-patting masters.You can fool some of the females some of the time, but you can’t fool all of the females all of the time.
Fritz says
On another note, there was a VERY interesting article on Stuff.co.nz about the Christchurch mosque:
https://web.archive.org/web/20140727140346/http://stuff.co.nz/world/middle-east/10310496/A-kiwi-lads-death-by-drone
“A Kiwi Lads Death By Drone
When the Jones boys converted to Islam, it caused quite a stir in Christchurch.
Suddenly Daryl and his younger brother Nathan, who grew up in a strong Christian house, were sporting beards, learning Arabic and wearing flowing robes. Carloads of Muslims, including immigrant women in veils, would turn up at the family’s home in a smart east Christchurch suburb, neighbours tut-tutting and muttering about terrorists.”
[…]
Also have a look at this article on Newshub:
https://www.newshub.co.nz/nznews/christchurch-mosque-linked-to-alqaida-suspect-2014060417
“Christchurch mosque linked to al-Qaida suspect”
Please read and spread the word!
somehistory says
Fritz
Thanks for the links. I read the articles. The poor families who lost their sons…first to islam and then to death as terrorists for islam.
If the shooter knew of these things…and no reason he couldn’t know if he read the news…could have factored into his thinking and his criminal actions. No excuse for him, but it does explain a lot about the moslim barracks.
ThinnySkinnyWhinny (@WhinnySkinny) says
Globalist politician with anti-native racism sympathetically identifies with totalitarian ideology? … makes sense.
HyperWhiteHeteroMale says
Western women can be so dumb….it’s almost as if they were a fifth column! I wonder: did this leader or any other in the free Western world wore a cross in solidarity with the several attacks in the last 3 years on Coptic Christians in Egypt? In just one attack during service, more than 40 Copts were kills by fanatics who stormed the St. Mark Cathedral. In another attack, 11 Copts were killed.
gravenimage says
The idea that Western women are a “fifth column” is grotesque. Is Pamela Geller a fifth columnist? Debbie Schlussel? Michele Malkin?
How about Jihad Watch’s Christine Douglass-Williams? Or the many Anti-Jihadist women who regularly post here?
Jacinda Ardern is a dhimmi fool, no doubt–but she is not much different from many of the clueless men in leadership positions in the West right now.
James says
I would not do that. I doubt if they would reciprocate to the West. They should have should sympathy in traditional Western ways, not by employing their ways. That just legitimates their values, but why should we do that? They would never legitimate ours.
Robert Mann says
Dear Lydia
I do live here (a native). Today the mgr of my parish phoned to say the bishop had emailed that each parish should ring its bell 50x at 3pm. I normally ring our bell before the 8am service. I refused to help with this obeisance to the evil militaristic lying fanaticism founded by that child-raping active enemy of Christ. Similarly, later today the mgr of the church shop announced on short notice that the shop would close briefly at 1.30pm for the 2 min silence advocated by that ignorant stupid dhimmi woman. I immediately departed.
The media have been promoting Islam. An imam was invited into Parliament to intone prayers to that furphy ‘Allah’. The Speaker of the Parlt had already unilaterally crippled the opening prayer which has for many decades opened every session of Parlt.
Despite all this ignorant dhimmitude, we are a long way short of sharia.
somehistory says
Robert Mann
Good for you in standing for what is right.
These actions will speed up the demands of moslims for their evil lawless code to be implemented. And unfortunately, weeds grow very fast, esp when watered. Faster than any healthy plant.
Laura says
I lived in New Zealand as a teenager, back in the 60’s when they were very hard on us ‘Pom’s’ and would often pick fights for no reason. The Kiwi’s were tough and uncompromising, so I can’t understand why they have rolled over and embraced their muslim enrichers. This will end badly, I fear.
gravenimage says
Well, beating up little English girls doesn’t take a whole lot of courage.
Terra Nova says
Submission straight away to Islam, Mrs Ardem sold her country out.
Did you wear your jihab too, when all the Christians were massacred and 50 Yazidi women were decapitated? All people are equal, there are all different people, but as soon as people want to conquer you, want to play boss, put THEIR laws on you, butcher us, decapitate us, rape us, do what they feel like, THEN THERE IS SOMETHING VERY WRONG, but may be Mrs Ardem had not noticed it.
New Zealand, I always thought better of you, but you are the same week people as the rest. You might need a strong new HAKU.
Mark Roberts says
Alot of people commenting are vastly under-estimating Kiwis. There will be a backlash to PM Taxinda. We have elections next year. Don’t write us off just yet. The political battles haven’t started yet. Since the nation is still grieving it would be inappropriate to use what happened for political point scoring. Come election time it will be full on. Give the PC types like Taxinda enough rope and they will hang themselves at the next election, metaphorically speaking.
nochip4me says
There were two types of people in history……those who built towns and worked hard to produce the things they needed. Then there were those who uncivilized and non productive chose to raid, plunder and destroy what good people had created. These modern migrants are those plunderers reborn. They come to take advantage of the good will of the decent people.
“If your home is invaded by rats, no matter how tender your heart is toward them, the rodents will destroy everything. They will not adopt your lifestyle or values. They will chew up your things, defecate everywhere, eat your food and possibly spread disease. There is only one solution: keep them out and then get rid of those already in. To not do so is to see them take over to your ultimate destruction. To allow them to stay is suicide.”
Fritz says
The ideology of rape, murder and conquest is beyond reform and redemption.
Ronyvo says
Yes, you’re right. Islam is one of the most horrific tool Satan is using to destroy our Lord’s creature. It’s followers (the Muslims) are brain washed and used as weapons. Mohammad, their prophet, was an ignorant evil man. The Koran is the produce of his diabolical intention.
That is said, the wide spread of this disease is blamed primarily on the ‘intellect’ westerners by allowing this ever most dangerous ENEMY to invade our countries.
Jacinda ‘s behavior is a proof of this stupidity. Men and women to wear the hijab and allowing this Islamic CALL for prayer is a full submit to this vicious enemy and even encouragement for this enemy to continue and increase their crimes against humanity.
I am not condoning what happened, which is a reaction of the increasing attacks on the citizens of NZ by Muslims, but the reaction could be expressed differently in a Christian, peaceful and organized manner.
gravenimage says
Good post.
Ruth Your Amazing says
Not my Apostle Brian Tamaki & Ps Hannah & not my Church Destiny. There is only one God and his name is Jesus Christ. The Father Son and Holy Spirit one God.
Our people STOOD during the silence amongst the the Muslim brothers and Sisters during their prayers and continued to talk and help and build relationships.
Destiny Church is the Only church in NZ who has and will continue to openly denounce any acknowledgement of any God other than the God of our nation, of our people and country.
Our constitution that my church readdressed & co-signed with the government 15yrs ago clearly stated that Nz is and will always be a Christian Nation. That is our Identity. We welcome all Nations, cultures and religions to enjoy the freedoms of our country.
The government removed prayer in parliament a few years ago and then all of a sudden they were chanting the Muslim prayer.
We are hated by media, the public and so called christians but that people is persecution…we will continue to stand Tu Tangata (Stand Tall) for our God our Nation our people and All peoples freedom for Love is greater then hate!
No Fear says
In sympathy with the mosque victims I have decided to genitally mutilate my daughter and wear a burka. Peace be upon me.
Ruth Your Amazing says
That’s nice dear, will you also behead your goat and drink it’s blood
gravenimage says
That’s what Muslims will be demanding next…
patriotliz says
This is how Muslims invade and take over non-Muslim territory. Guilt the Europeans and descendants to accept the historical Islamic enemies of Western Civilization. I’m sure the Leftist-Islamic axis of evil was secretly delighted about this Muslim massacre. Jihad got a tremendous boost from this idiot infidel-on-Muslim terrorism and he also greatly promoted more censorship of any criticism of Islam.
In accordance w/ Islamic supremacist, imperialistic conquests and given the dhimmitude of infidel leaders in NZ, I predict that name of the city of “Christchurch” must of course have to be changed because it is too ‘offensive’ to Muslims. NZ must of course honor the Muslims martyrs. How about changing the name to “City of Muhammad” to make sure the Muslim colonizers feel welcomed?
As for the Adhan, New Zealanders should go to all the houses of their dhimmi leaders to make sure they are able to enjoy the Adhan over loudspeakers before sunrise:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLUTe9ZQpYk&t=
MS says
Well since “Mrs Ardem” is actually a man (transsexual) …she will be tossed off a rooftop like a rag doll by the mohammedens, once they take over.
The mosque shooter was in Pakistan last fall & saying how great the country was & how nice the people were. Something isn’t adding up to the whole story imo…
somehistory says
MS
I thought ardem looked like a man in all of the photos. Not realizing, just that it was an ugly face for a woman. One cannot change their DNA, no matter how much it may be desired.
Is that why the ‘males” were also instructed to wear the headscarf?
gravenimage says
Considering she just gave birth a short while ago, the claim that Jacinda Ardern is a transexual is just ridiculous.
One can be critical of her actions–there is no reason to make stuff up.
Denny says
Disgustig submission
Sivle says
Wouldn’t it be funny if what’s-his-name sitting in solitary confinement coverts to Islam?
And why not? -he has done more for the advance of Islam in the world than any event since the fall of Constantinople.
Oh what a misguided fool -couldn’t he see his action would be just what they were praying for?
Rakesh says
Seriously! I pity the west. Always trying to act more civilized. Trying to show sympathy to Muslims. Talking about Human Right Violation. Though large nations will survive it but small western nations will never do. Ur future generations will live inside hijab.
ER says
I thought the purpose of the hijab was to cover the hair … not just wear a scarf on your head.
ER says
I’m still waiting for National Wear a Burka Day. (that would really separate the sheep from the goats)
J D.S says
National call yo prayer west the hijab on Friday or maybe every Friday or every day?????
I feel sorrow for the families if those murdered in NZ, for that matter anywhere there is loss of life needlessly.
I also feel sorrow for the thousands on top of thousands of other innocent people killed by Muslim terrorists and no one seems to be interested in that. I think maybe I saw a figure of over 80,000 in either 2017 or 2018 not sure of yearv. It was in one of Pamela Geller’s reports.
No Muzzies Here says
There is one thing I can’t figure out: which Anglo country will capitulate first to Islam? There seems to be a race between the UK and New Zealand to see who can adopt Sharia the fastest.
This taking place as the last remnants of Islamic State are wiped out.
Ren says
It doesn’t take much for someone to become a dhimmi.
Peter WF says
She quoted from the Quran as follows –
“Prophet Muhammad said the believers in their mutual kindness, compassion and sympathy are just like one body. When any part of the body suffers, the whole body feels the pain. New Zealand mourns with you. We are one.”
She just missed one thing – In the Quran the definition of believers is narrow – muslims. There is no broader meaning for the word. Put it in and have a look at the meaning of the passage.
Get some first hand knowledge.
Case in point – Friend had less than zero opinion of Trump – “buffoon” to be exact. I said “Where did you get your info from?” All second hand or less. I said – “Don’t expect him to be perfect” and sat her in front of Trump’s 2019 State of the Union address on youtube.
At the end she asks – “Was that edited?” Couldn’t believe how poorly the media presents him.
Geoffrey de Brito says
As anyone paying attention to Islam’s strictures by now should know, it is entirely appropriate that dhimmi infidel men on the left wear the hijab. After all, a majority of Western men on the left prove every day that they’re eunuchs in all but name. Their women gelded them long ago…
sarc/off
UNCLE VLADDI says
Then she took away the whites’ guns, so that only the peaceful muslims would be armed in future.
(There – fixed that problem, didn’t she?)!
😉
Dry Academy says
Sickening beyond belief. This is the kind of leadership that democracy produces. Worthless, stupid, soulless,sociopathic bureaucrats. Say what you like about kings, but they would never have acted this way.
gravenimage says
This is absurd–many patriots have been democratically elected.
And if you think that kings have never sold out to Islam–many far worse than the witless NZ PM here–then you know little about history. Read Robert Spencer’s “History of Jihad” for more information.
somehistory says
Paul J
Well, we know they lie…any lie is acceptable if it advances islam…any action is acceptable if it advances islam…The two go together for hoaxes that moslims carry out and then lie and say it was a White person wearing a ball cap and saying go back.
This could very well be perpetrated by a moslim killing some of his own community to advance the cause.
It certainly has benefited moslims world wide as they get people to stop telling the truth about them in more places than before.
gravenimage says
In this case, Somehistory, the perp does not appear to be Muslim.
somehistory says
gravenimage
Perhaps not, but appearances can be deceiving…and deception is what they do best.
It may be “for real”…but there are just too many questions and it is being way over used for silencing the public…more so than the attack in Canada and the one several years ago in one of the states. I’m just not totally convinced it was really a non moslim attacking moslims without some ‘conspiring.’ I’m more convinced that it was a fake.
gravenimage says
Well, so far there is absolutely no indication that Tarrant is Muslim. If other information comes out that he is, then I will of course change my mind.
Mark Berlinger says
Adiós New Zealand
Prime Minister Ardern grovels to Islamic demands and another country run by self-hating feminists is conquered. There’s a cancer pressing on their brains. No matter how misogynistic and degenerate the invaders, liberal feminists can’t supine quickly enough in surrender to these men who will replace the weak male natives.
gravenimage says
Most feminists–like most other liberals–just don’t believe that Islam is actually a threat.
Darkwing says
What is the problem. Where I live, the women had all the fire fighters wear pink shirts for a week, plus 100’s of fire dept around the country were told to do it.
NotALibNoMo says
The muslim call to prayer…….The English translation is presented here. Oddly, the tune they use for the “prayer” is the same as the old “Oscar Meyer bologna” jingle……It roughly translates to:
Our moon-god has a first name,
it’s a-l-l-a-h.
Our moon-god has no second name,
it’s (shouting) A-L-L-A-H.
Oh we kill kafir most every day,
and if you ask to whom we praaaaaayyyyyyyyy…….
To kill kafir is A-O-K,
says a-l-l-a-h, oy vey.
Allahu’s Snackbar!!!
peter says
I think Jihad Watch should start awarding ” most useful idiot of the year” and “the greatest dhimmi of the year ” each year . This year’s award should go to prime minister of New Zealand ,I do not want to mention her name . This idiot does not realize that Muslims kill more muslims all over the world and muslims are using this play victim hood and every day when muslims are slaughtered by other muslims as it happens all over the globe including Pakistan ,Afghanistan ,Yemen ,nobody raises an eye brow or Christians or Hindus are mass murdered by muslims no body cares . It is height of hypocrisy by left wing media and politicians .God save the world from useful idiots!
gravenimage says
Peter, Jihad Watch used to do this, for several years–there were awards for worst dhimmi and best Anti-Jihadist. I would love to see that come back.
Carol the 1st says
Trivia:
Jacinta is probably not thrown off by odd sects with odd origins:
Raised a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormon), Ardern left the church in 2005 because, she said, it conflicted with her personal views; in particular her support for gay rights. In January 2017, Ardern identified as “agnostic”
Yammi says
The PM of NZ is overdoing her activities to protest against mosque. It is very cruel to kill innocent people and it is condemnation beyond words. I genuinely empathise with the victims. The PM must look into the security of NZ citizens but not wearing his ability, asking government to adopt Muslim practices and she is acting more than a Muslim head of state in mourning for the victims. I have not seen any statement from her when Yazidis in Iraq were killed and their women were enslaved by sunning Muslim terrorists called ISIS. Neither I heard anything of various Islamic terrorist attacks after mosque massacre. These acts will embolden Islamic terrorists and they will get safe heaven in NZ significantly reducing security of its citizens. As for Islamic world, the press reported just now that 2 minor Hindu girls aged 12 and 14 were abducted in Pakistan and converted forcefully to Islam and married off 2 Muslim boys. PM Arden sit up and take note and please end your rhetoric.
Carol the 1st says
Unimaginable what the poor, brave Yazidi have been going through:
Thousands of Muslim Women Raped, Tortured, Killed in Syrian Prisons
Where are the Media, UN, ‘Human Rights’ Groups?
by Bassam Tawil
March 25, 2019 at 5:00 am
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/13954/syria-women-raped-tortured-killed
Naildriver says
Such people as this NZ PM just amaze me in their complete capitulation and patronizing of this ‘immigrant invasion’. Yes, the bad bad killer was very correct upon that point. Muslims should be considered invaders since they have only ill intentions to the non-Islamic society’s they enter. I’ll bet he killed a few terrorist wanna be’s — perhaps a devote who dreamt of killing those Native NZ practitioners of that dance performed for the murdered Muslims, or a devotee whose jihad in bud was to kill children.
That this PM donned a hijab or scarf shows her utter lack of understanding and offensive disregard for those millions of women tyrannized by Islam and thousands just recently murdered by Islam’s devotees. And She and those who support Muslim immigration into the West are as guilty of the consequences of that violence and killer himself.
Carol the 1st says
Why Naildriver, aren’t you worried you’ll rain on Jacinta’s parade??
TruthSeeker says
Dear JW commenters, Wellington, Gravenimage etc.
I am a JW visitor for a long time and read many of your valuable comments silently but this time I felt compelled to leave my first comment.
I have lived past 10 years in NZ and recently migrated to Australia. Here’s my 2 cents …
You are all guilty of under estimating NZ PM Jacinda Ardern. I think she perfectly understands what she is doing and she is playing her cards really well. What she is trying to do is to win the next year’s election in NZ by breaking up the majority (whites) votebank and securing sizable chunk from minority (including all musims). She came to power through back door with last min deal with a one man party , who himself lost the election but got baited to have the deputy PM post which was his dream all along his career (Mr. W Peters). And her rule is not going well, of course as an idealistic left leaning leader crafting impossible targets in a fairyland of ubiquitous equality and gradually failing to meet them in harsh cold reality.
So first thing she did after coming to power is to quarrel with Aussie PM to let her “rescue” refugees from Manus island bypassing Australia to prove how compassionate leader she is to the refugees. Meanwhile ordinary kiwis can continue begging in the pavements of Lambton Quay in Wellington within walking distance from the beehive (NZ Parliament) with “I am homeless, jobless” placard, they are not potential election winners you see.
Just before the next election came this horrific shooting which presented her a big fat chance to spin an evil plan to milk the white guilt to the fullest, present herself THE most loveable, compassionate leader in THE west, as every step she takes , like wearing hijab or forcing the azaan throughout NZ , sold out global news medias like BBC would gladly amplify her web of lies throughout the world more and more convincing kiwis of her leadership qualities. Add with this the perpetual kiwi search for relevance in world stage. To those unaware NZers suffer time to time from mild bouts of loneliness of being physically left out on the global map, i.e., whenever a kiwi does something newsworthy in world stage he/she becomes toast of the nation to prove kiwis do count on world stage! You wont believe theres a reddit group always tracking /shaming web sites leaving off NZ from world map, such is their fear of being irrelevant on world stage, the hunt for a kiwi connection is always on. And look how JA became the toast of the media throughout the world! Surely the white kiwis should feel compelled to vote her to retain PMship in the next term , to even think someone in her place atm is pure inhumane!
Long story short she is playing her cards well for another term as PM and then an illustrious career at the UN following her predecessor Helen Clark’s example , but with more radical refugee and muslim pandering this time. Yes the small price maybe end of free speech , religious freedom in NZ, maybe some mass conversions to islam and dramatic cut in women freedom , abandonment of western values, end of gay rights to name few which are just necessary collateral damage in her political aspirations you see !
So I fear this is just the beginning of a long dark slippery slope for NZ unfortunately, but nothing is impossible to achieve well carved out political aspirations.
They say keep your friends close but enemies closer, … are you still willing to dismiss her as naive and ignorant ? Well do it at your own peril mate and just wait and watch how she continues to become islam’s savior in days to come …
Regards,
TruthSeeker
Don Ameche says
Thanks for the perspective TruthSeeker .
somehistory says
TruthSeeker
thank you for the inside story.
I have been thinking it was all a set-up as this pm jumped in so quickly and easily to force the country of NZ to bow to the beast of islam. You have just made me think it all the more.
gravenimage says
TruthSeeker wrote:
Dear JW commenters, Wellington, Gravenimage etc.
I am a JW visitor for a long time and read many of your valuable comments silently but this time I felt compelled to leave my first comment.
………………………..
TruthSeeker, sorry it took me so long to get back to this thread, see your post, and reply. I thought I had seen you posting here in the past, but that may have been another poster with the same username. If these are your first comments here, welcome!
More:
I have lived past 10 years in NZ and recently migrated to Australia. Here’s my 2 cents …
You are all guilty of under estimating NZ PM Jacinda Ardern. I think she perfectly understands what she is doing and she is playing her cards really well. What she is trying to do is to win the next year’s election in NZ by breaking up the majority (whites) votebank and securing sizable chunk from minority (including all musims). She came to power through back door with last min deal with a one man party , who himself lost the election but got baited to have the deputy PM post which was his dream all along his career (Mr. W Peters). And her rule is not going well, of course as an idealistic left leaning leader crafting impossible targets in a fairyland of ubiquitous equality and gradually failing to meet them in harsh cold reality.
………………………..
You could well be right–i know she was not actually elected and that the Conservatives got the largest number of votes,and that she is the result of a deal between Labour and the Greens.
More:
So first thing she did after coming to power is to quarrel with Aussie PM to let her “rescue” refugees from Manus island bypassing Australia to prove how compassionate leader she is to the refugees.
………………………..
Yes, I’d heard about this–more virtue signalling.
More:
Just before the next election came this horrific shooting which presented her a big fat chance to spin an evil plan to milk the white guilt to the fullest, present herself THE most loveable, compassionate leader in THE west…
………………………..
I think you are right–she is actually sickly glorying in this.
And I agree with you about NZ often feeling a bit isolated and overlooked–even when the rest of the world notices those “down under”, NZ is often an afterthought or confused with Australia. I remember arguing with an otherwise quite knowledgeable friend who insisted that NZ, like Tasmania, was actually an island state of Australia rather than an independent nation.
And I remember the flood of NZ pride when Lord of the Rings was largely filmed there.
By the way, though I am an American, my mother was English and I have relatives both in Britain and in Australia and NZ. In fact, I have a cousin in Christchurch.
I think your analysis is sound, and welcome input from someone on the ground. Thank you.
I hope all this sickening pandering backfires on Jacinda Ardern, though. We’ll see.
TruthSeeker says
There is nothing crazy in desperate attempts to cling on NZ PM’s post as far as monetary reasons are concerned. Here’s some perspective :
1> NZ , a country of roughly 5 million ppl in total, less than half of Ontario province in Canada, have their PM Jacinda Ardern earning more than NZD 450,000/- per year or more than USD 309,444/- per anum which is *8.63* times more than Kiwi average salary, also is the fifth highest paid leader among OECD countries more than Canada & UK PMs. Go figure!
2> Every elected MP in NZ earns at least twice the NZ average wage which makes political career a lucrative one in NZ and so to ensure continuation of this salary plus promise of an imp position at UN perhaps are driving factors behind JA’s sell out of NZ to islamism. A small price to pay, esp when being paid by others while she can laugh all the way to her bank from UN HQ in NY . Source :
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=politician+salary+in+NZ&oq=politician+salary+in+NZ&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l2.6089j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/106445791/politicians-pay-around-the-world-how-our-mps-salaries-stack-up
gravenimage says
Thanks for that information, TruthSeeker.
Shalom Bertie100 says
And yet this mosque in New Zealand has just been linked to some extremist activity. Will any of them care about that. No, of course not.
gravenimage says
Yes–one of them had links to All Qaida.
gravenimage says
Al Qaida