“’I feel regret whenever I think of him because he was such a good student,’ said Sheikh Mahir Gustaham, who taught Mr. Kiram Islamic jurisprudence and considered him his favorite pupil. ‘For me it’s a lesson learned: to watch closely and intently the good and quiet students because they may change.'”
Or maybe he absorbed what you taught him all too well, but you don’t want to say that to the New York Times.
“‘We need to figure out how people like Reza Kiram, with no prior indication, become violent extremists,’ said Col. Leonel Nicolas, the commander of the joint task force in the southern city of Zamboanga, where Mr. Kiram grew up.”
Yeah, it’s a total mystery. How could this have happened?
“And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from where they drove you out; persecution is worse than slaughter. But fight them not by the Holy Mosque until they should fight you there; then, if they fight you, kill them — such is the recompense of unbelievers, but if they give over, surely Allah is all-forgiving, all-compassionate. Fight them until there is no persecution and the religion is Allah’s; then if they give over, there shall be no enmity save for evildoers.” (Qur’an 2:191-193)
“We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve for what they have associated with Allah of which He had not sent down authority. And their refuge will be the Fire, and wretched is the residence of the wrongdoers.” (Qur’an 3:151)
“They wish that you should disbelieve as they disbelieve, and then you would be equal; therefore do not take friends from among them, until they emigrate in the way of Allah; then, if they turn their backs, seize them and kill them wherever you find them; do not take for yourselves any one of them as friend or helper.” (Qur’an 4:89)
“This is the recompense of those who fight against Allah and His Messenger, and hasten about the earth to do corruption there: they shall be killed, or crucified, or their hands and feet shall be struck off on opposite sides; or they shall be exiled from the land. That is a degradation for them in this world; and in the world to come awaits them a mighty chastisement.” (Qur’an 5:33)
“When your Lord was revealing to the angels, ‘I am with you; so confirm the believers. I shall cast terror into the hearts of the unbelievers; so strike the necks, and strike every finger of them!” (Qur’an 8:12)
“Fight them, till there is no persecution and religion is all for Allah; then if they give over, surely Allah sees the things they do.” (Qur’an 8:39)
“Make ready for them whatever force and strings of horses you can, to strike terror into the enemy of Allah and your enemy, and others besides them that you know not; Allah knows them. And whatever you spend in the way of Allah shall be repaid you in full; you will not be wronged.” (Qur’an 8:60)
“Then, when the sacred months are over, kill the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them, and confine them, and lie in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they repent, and perform the prayer, and pay the alms, then let them go their way; Allah is All-forgiving, All-compassionate.” (Qur’an 9:5)
“Fight those who believe not in Allah and the Last Day and do not forbid what Allah and His Messenger have forbidden, and do not practice the religion of truth, even if they are of the People of the Book — until they pay the jizya with willing submission and feel themselves subdued.” (Qur’an 9:29)
“Allah has bought from the believers their selves and their possessions against the gift of Paradise; they fight in the way of Allah; they kill, and are killed; that is a promise binding upon Allah in the Torah, and the Gospel, and the Koran; and who fulfils his covenant truer than Allah? So rejoice in the bargain you have made with Him; that is the mighty triumph.” (Qur’an 9:111)
“O believers, fight the unbelievers who are near to you; and let them find in you a harshness; and know that Allah is with the godfearing.” (Qur’an 9:123)
“When you meet the unbelievers, strike their necks, then, when you have made wide slaughter among them, tie fast the bonds; then set them free, either by grace or ransom, till the war lays down its loads. So it shall be; and if Allah had willed, He would have avenged Himself upon them; but that He may try some of you by means of others. And those who are slain in the way of Allah, He will not send their works astray.” (Qur’an 47:4)
“An ISIS Couple’s Troubling Path to Terror Recruiting,” by Hannah Beech and Jason Gutierrez, New York Times, March 24, 2019 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
ZAMBOANGA, Philippines — She was a Catholic math whiz with an M.B.A. from one of the best universities in the Philippines. He was the Muslim descendant of a sultanate family, schooled in computer science.
The couple, Ellen Barriga and Mohammad Reza Kiram, could have served as the model of a modern interfaith marriage. Instead, they are poster children for how violent ideology transformed educated Filipinos into agents of death for the Islamic State.
In 2015, Ms. Barriga and Mr. Kiram traveled to Syria to join the terrorist group, becoming key recruiters of other Southeast Asians, according to Philippine and American intelligence officials….
A year after arriving in Syria, Mr. Kiram, wavy-haired with jutting cheekbones, appeared in a video for the Islamic State. In it, he and a Malaysian and Indonesian urged foreigners to wage jihad in Muslim parts of the Philippines, where the Islamic State has been gaining strength.
“Worshipers of the cross,” he warned, “we will use the language of swords and language of bullets. Our brothers in the path of Allah will soon rise in your own land.”
Holding a dagger, Mr. Kiram then beheaded a hostage kneeling in front of him….
Ms. Barriga, who converted to Islam after earning an accounting degree, has been accused by the Philippine authorities of channeling Islamic State funds to local militants and aiding in a failed bombing attempt in the southern Philippine city of Davao….
“We need to figure out how people like Reza Kiram, with no prior indication, become violent extremists,” said Col. Leonel Nicolas, the commander of the joint task force in the southern city of Zamboanga, where Mr. Kiram grew up.
Even to their closest family and friends, the couple’s path to radicalization is indistinct. There were no defining traumas or fractures with society, only small signs that, in retrospect, hinted at trouble: too much time spent online, perhaps, or a fearlessness that could ripen into fanaticism.
“I feel regret whenever I think of him because he was such a good student,” said Sheikh Mahir Gustaham, who taught Mr. Kiram Islamic jurisprudence and considered him his favorite pupil. “For me it’s a lesson learned: to watch closely and intently the good and quiet students because they may change.”..
Spiro says
Maybe he listened to what was being taught
Saif bin takkiyah says
SEA continues to be a underreported jihad hotspot. I would like to see reporting on the ongoing indonesian occupation and genocide in West Papua. Indonesian government has killed as many people as the Assad regime buoyed by the silence and complicity of the media and every government in the world.
christianblood says
Why talk about a jihadist beheader in the Philippines when a just a few days ago, US paid One Billion taxpayer dollars to provide new missiles to its thousands of Saudi=ISIS head-chopping allies in the ME?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dxtpzYL-Xs
Saif bin takkiyah says
You claim to be Christian but you care not about the half a million Christians in occupied west papua whose blood was spilled by the Indonesian occupation government.
christianblood says
Saif bin takkiyah
In the West Indonesia is called a ‘moderate’ islamic country!
Could you provide some information about the West Papua Christians?
Diane Johnson says
There is much info about what is happenning in West Papua.
Indonesia actually stole the votes installing them as rulers over PNG when Australia signed Treaties etc.
What the Indonesians are doing to innocent people of PNG and holding political prisoners and causing the Highlanders to continue warring among themselfs is criminal. Look up Benny Wenda.
You will find a lot of info there.
MERDEKA!
christianblood says
Diane Johnson
Thanks for sharing info about Indonesia!
Will look up ‘Benny Wenda’ and related issues.
Thanks again!
gravenimage says
*Of course* christianblood does not care about Islamic State Jihadists beheading their victims–he has even condemned America for destroying the Caliphate.
And then he spams this thing again from a site that hates the US and applauds the Jihad against Israel.
I can’t find a single mainstream source for this claim–most of the sites carrying this claim are those like “Mint Press”–a Muslim site–and “therussophile.org”, which name speaks for itself.
Wellington says
Can’t stand the Saudis, christianblood, but as bad as they are they aren’t threatening a nation with extinction as Iran has respecting Israel. Moreover, repression in SA of females is terrible but so is it the case with Iranian repression of females for simply not wearing an hijab.
Quit it with the videos and links. It’s nauseating and you convince almost no one here at JW. You’re just a propaganda troll for Russia, which country under Putin has praised Islam, allowed Sharia in Chechnya and has links with repressive Islamic regimes like Iran and Syria just as America has links with repressive Islamic regimes like SA and Egypt.
It’s all part of Realpolitik and indicative of the fact that the entire Islamic world sucks. And meanwhile, Putin is siding with the thug in Venezuela. If only you exhibited some kind of balance at times, you would have a good chance of being taken seriously. But you NEVER exhibit balance. Russia good, good, good. America bad, bad, bad. So old and tired. Such tripe may play well in Russia and with loony leftists in America, but it makes no headway at all with sensible people in the West.
And if you respond, please no more links. Just argue matters in your own words. And for the record, I want you to know that it is a damn shame that Russia can’t do any better than Putin, who is a retrograde, a trouble maker, a thug, a killer and damn corrupt. Russia will, long term, pay a very heavy price for finding no better leader in the post-Soviet era than Putin. Pathetic.
christianblood says
Wellington
What does all this damning Russia and it leaders mean? Why are you so
obsessed with Russia and its leader???
Saudi Arabia is the global financier and the ideological and religious source of the universal islamic jihadist ideology! Saudi Arabia and the other US-allied Arab Gulf states like UAE, Qatar, Bahrain and Kuwait
all of them Sunni Wahhabis spent trillions of dollars on financing tens of thousands of Wahhabi Islamic imams, mosques, universities and madrassas all around the globe! Mind you, 15 of the 19 Arab Wahhabis Sunnis that attacked America on 9/11 and killed 3000 Americans were Saudis and yet your leaders are still dancing with their Saudi head-chopping buddies giving them billions of US taxpayer dollars!
Why does your cowardly and avaricious leaders preach their ‘democracy’ and ‘human rights’ shit in Saudi Arabia where there are public beheadings and crucifixions on weekly basis? Why not preach your damned ‘democracy’ and ‘freedom’ in Kuwait, UAE, Qatar and Bahrain instead of threatening another bloody regime-change wars on Venezuela?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f35TUFmCtYY
christianblood says
Correction:
Why doesn’t your cowardly and avaricious leaders preach their ‘democracy’ and ‘human rights’ shit in Saudi Arabia???
christianblood says
Wellington
US is secretly transferring its nuclear technology to Saudi Arabia=ISIS!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2FKn4aMOoQ
christianblood says
Wellington
U$A is giving Billions of dollars worth of military equipment to Saudis and Al-Qaeda jihadists in Yemen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeIpNzJhuO0
CRUSADER says
Oh, shiver me timbers!
Eh, Wellington?
😉
gravenimage says
And here christianblood is citing PressTV–which is a mouthpiece of the Iranian state. Not exactly a reliable source…
And his taunting Wellington over Saudi Arabia is grotesque–Wellington has never supported them, nor have I. Why does he continue to pretend that Anti-Jihadists here are pro-Saudi Arabia? I don’t know anyone here who is.
Then notice his sneering at ‘democracy’ and ‘human rights’ shit and ‘freedom’–all things he has always hated.
Will he condemn this Jihadi beheader? I won’t be holding my breath…
christianblood says
Wellington
US lectures to the world about human rights yet 40 million Americans live in poverty and are on food stamps which is (larger than the whole population of Venezuela)! 15 million American children reside in xtreme poverty, 28 million Americans live without health insurance, with widespread urban decay, yards filled with sewage, rampant levels of crime, violence, suicides, has the largest prison population on earth and hundreds of thousands dying each from suicides, homicides, opioid epidemic, mass-murder, abuse and police brutality! U$A is indeed a hollywoodized, (Rogue State) liberal imperialist, pro-Saudi, pro-perversion Hellhole!
gravenimage says
Again, christianblood will say *nothing* critical about Muslims beheading their victims.
Instead, he castigates Wellington for ills–real or imagined–in the United States.
The rate of poverty in the US is about 13%–Russia’s is not only higher, but it represents a much lower standard of living. This last is very significant–even the poor in the US often live much better than those elsewhere. (and before he asks why I am citing Russia, it is that he constantly lauds Russia here).
Another odd thing is that christianblood so often condemns America for being prosperous–he has said before that grinding poverty and even forced governmental starvation–as in Venezuela–are so much more “spiritual” than is enjoying a good standard of living, so you would think that he’d enjoy a high poverty rate.
As for some American children’s families receiving food stamps, this is true. What he does not appear to grasp is that this means they are receiving food assistance–unlike the plight of Venezuelan children:
“As Venezuela Collapses, Children Are Dying of Hunger”
http://www.nytimes.com/…/venezuela-children-starving.html
That he considers children dying of hunger to be preferable to their receiving food stamps is just sickening. And this is no abstract for me–my own family received food stamps at one time when I as a child.
As for suicide, there are about 12 suicides per 100,000 people in the US–a troubling figure. But rates in Russia are considerably higher–over 15 per 100,000.
Regarding health insurance, christianblood appears to believe that those lacking health insurance in the US have no access to health care. This is, of course, not true. Receiving healthcare without health insurance is less convenient and usually offers less choice, but it certainly is available. Again, I speak from personal experience, because I had brief periods when I was first out on my own when I did not have health insurance.
As for the problem of substance abuse, 30% of all deaths in Russia are due to alcoholism–ten times the rate in the US.
Another thing that christianblood either does not understand or hopes we don’t is the existence of free criticism in the West, both by the press and individuals. The US–and the rest of the West–are very self-critical societies. We are always working to try to ameliorate social ills–this is hardly true of the rest of the world. So there is a focus on societal problems here, rather than their being hidden as in so much of the world.
Another factor is ideological–especially from the far left, which regularly exaggerates the ills of the West to score political points.
One obvious example of this is with charges of police brutality. Police brutality clearly does exist, and should be stamped out where it is found–but leftist claims about its prevalence are often completely absurd. For instance, “stop and frisk” is regularly described as police brutality, which is obviously ridiculous.
And some of christianblood’s claims are just bizarre–like the assertion that American yards are filled with sewage. In fact, the US has perhaps the best public sanitation in the world.
Will christianblood pay attention to any of this? Unlikely. More probable he will just go on spamming his off-topic and scurrilous claptrap against the free West.
christianblood says
gravenimage
There is no opiod epidemic or mass-murder, police brutality, thousands of pstds that result in suicides and violent gang wars in Russia. Yes, there is alcoholism problem in Russia as Russia is a hard-drinking culture but generally speaking Russia is safe from the social ills and the extreme perversions and godlessness that is gripping the US with its largest prison population on Earth! The Lord says America is a cursed landand He is indeed fed up with its materialism, violence, bragging, ignorance, decadence, arrogance, stupidity, individualism and destructive attitudes!
2 Tim 3:1-6
gravenimage says
Of course, christianblood ignored everything I cited.
He wrote:
There is no opiod epidemic or mass-murder, police brutality, thousands of pstds that result in suicides and violent gang wars in Russia.
………………………….
Let’s see:
“Russian answer to opioid epidemic: ‘Cold turkey'”
Russia has an opioid abuse problem as big as America’s
https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2017/1128/Russian-answer-to-opioid-epidemic-Cold-turkey
and
“Torture and Abuse by Police Is the Norm in Russian Prisons”
https://www.newsweek.com/2016/04/08/russia-police-custody-torture-abuse-441489.html
And he doesn’t say why the suicide rate in Russia is higher than it is in the US.
More:
The Lord says America is a cursed landand He is indeed fed up with its materialism, violence, bragging, ignorance, decadence, arrogance, stupidity, individualism and destructive attitudes!
2 Tim 3:1-6
………………………….
No, this Bible verse does not mention the United States–it is about end times.
And christianblood has long demanded that God punish America for her sins real and imagined by allowing Muslims to conquer and murder us. The last time I noted this, he demanded that God “start from Gravenimage”. When I pointed out that this meant he was calling for me to be gang raped and beheaded, he said that if I resisted this it meant I was “rejecting the Truth of Jesus”.
Whatever shortcomings the West may have, the claim that what it needs is to replaced by the horrors of Islam is just sickening–yet christianblood has said this many times.
And note that he *still* will not condemn this Muslim beheading his victims. At this point, who can be surprised?
Wellington says
Gee, christianblood, are you on Putin’s payroll?
Your screeds are endless. Your videos are tedious and biased (and like so many verses in the Koran obnoxiously repetitive). You never criticize anything by Russia and always criticize America and the West. Your lack of balance is not only erroneous but risible.
I wish you would get lost because you contribute nothing to the truth (rather like Putin I would argue). I am certain no one of sense and knowledge really cares anymore what you have to say here at JW. I could be wrong about this and if there are any who disagree with me here, by all means please explain why christianblood serves as a truth-teller in any way.
Any response to you is just done to set matters more straightly (can this actually be an adverb and in the comparative degree no less?—but I digress) than you ever have shown yourself capable of. You are a withering and useless commenter. Here, I would argue, you excel. Congratulations.
Get lost, loser. I mean really lost—like in the wilds of a metaphorical Siberia from which metaphorical region you will never be extrapolated. A beautiful sentiment I contend. Know full well I don’t want to shut you down, I “merely” want you to get lost. Forever like.
gravenimage says
True, Wellington–christianblood contributes nothing to the Counter Jihad, even refusing to condemn Jihad horrors like this one. All he does is endlessly criticize the free West, even when he has to lie to do so.
No Muzzies Here says
Why is anyone surprised that a good student of Islam chops heads off?
christianblood says
No Muzzies Here posted
(..Why is anyone surprised that a good student of Islam chops heads off?..)
Haha!
Good one!
gravenimage says
Will christianblood condemn Muslims beheading their victims–or will he just laugh about it? Still waiting.
christianblood says
gravenimage
Of course I condemn muslim terror in all its manifestations but you will never condemn America’s long-standing support for islamic jihadists over the past 40 years and on so many different places!
Shame!
gravenimage says
OK–after my urging christianblood to condemn Muslims beheading their victims several times here, I suppose he realized it was too embarrassing not to do so, no matter how half-hearted it might be.
Of course his claim that I do not criticize America and the West when they act the dhimmi or enable Jihad is quite false.
But the idea that this means that I should swallow unsubstantiated calumny against the US made by Muslim web sites is just grotesque–but not a surprise.
AntiIslamicman says
Authorities baffled. Not sure why as the Koran is a hate book, all I can assume is that they never read the Koran or Hadith.
grego says
A lot of people are attracted to islam because it is a religion of violence and murder, and they are attracted to violence and murder. Humans that ugly to the bone, clear through the soul.
mortimer says
Why is Sheikh Mahir Gustaham so ‘SHOCKED’ ??? He teaches Islamic law and knows what is in Sharia, the canonical commentaries, the Sira, the hadiths and Koran. He is pretending not to know that Islam is a CONQUISTATORIAL DEATH CULT promoting genocide, rape and plunder.
I think all Islamic teachers know that, but they go into denial so they don’t feel guilty about creating little Hitlers and little Frankensteins like Mohammad Reza Kiram.
15% of Muslims support terrorist organizations … 15% attend the mosque every week. COINCIDENCE?
Paul J says
No Mortimer, just more taqiyya, say one thing to the kaffirs and the exact opposite to each other. This bs artist knows exactly why. He taught him.
Kesselman says
The wake-up call is indeed a long-distance call. Wherever Moslem atrocities occur the picture is nearly always the same, people pretend not to know or understand the depravity of Islam.—When things get worse, and they will, the civilized world will ultimately gather. What could have been a firm cut (after the 9/11 2001) will now be real nasty self-defense?
infidel says
Any Muslim can go mad and rabidly violent at any given time for any given reason at any given place. This in itself is another Islamic TRUISM from the annals of the infidel
James Lincoln says
In general…
A Christian who seeks to become a better Christian becomes more peaceful.
A Muslim who seeks to become a better Muslim becomes more violent.
Paul J says
+1
CRUSADER says
Troll going as “christianblood” is getting rather BORING.
Yawn!
gravenimage says
I know how you feel, CRUSADER.
Arthur says
religion of peace : “Worshipers of the cross,” he warned, “we will use the language of swords and language of bullets. Our brothers in the path of Allah will soon rise in your own land.”
this is what religion of peace brings – sword and bullets to someone’s own land
gravenimage says
Philippines: “Good student” of Islamic jurisprudence becomes ISIS beheader, authorities baffled
………………
*Of course* he was a good student…
Battle says
“Catholic math whiz” Ellen Biriga did not care for her “Love your neighbor.” At “Philippine university” she did not care for “Love your neighbor” if taught.
Mohammad Reza Kiram “descendant of Sultanate family” at Islam Moslem school did not care for “Love your neighbor” if taught.