When they released him before, did they keep track of him? Clearly the answer is no. And why not? Because there are just too many possible or potential jihadis for authorities to keep track of them all. And that is an Islamic State strategy: they are endeavoring to overload intelligence and law enforcement agencies in the West, and cause them to collapse. They’re well on their way to success.
“37-year-old Turkish ‘terror’ suspect who killed three in Utrecht shooting arrested,” RT, March 18, 2019 (thanks to David):
The 37 year-old Turkish suspect in the deadly shooting on a tram in the Netherlands has been arrested, Utrecht’s police chief has confirmed.
Gökmen Tanis was arrested after a major manhunt following the shooting which authorities have confirmed killed three people and injured nine more.The terror threat level for Utrecht was reduced after the suspect’s arrest. It is not yet clear where exactly the police managed to apprehend Tanis….
Utrech Police had warned citizens to watch out for Tanis but not to approach him. Sources told BBC Turkish that the 37-year-old had previously been arrested over “suspected links” to the Islamic State a few years ago, but was later released.
David says
1- Erdogan publicly plays the New Zealand terrorist attack video during his campaigns.
2- Turkish man Gokman Tanis, 37 years old, opens fire in #Utrecht.
3- Suspect remains at large.
4- Threat level raised, tightened security.
5- A Turkish businessman residing in Utrecht told BBC Türkçe that Tanış had “fought in Chechnya” and that a “few years ago [Tanış] was arrested and released for his connection to ISIS. He was not a part of the Turkish community [in Holland], he was a recluse.”
(Via Imam Tawhidi)
christianblood says
Surprise! Surprise! Gökmen Tanis is one the Islamic jihadists sent to Chechnya by US and Nato (including the Netherlands) to kill Russians and now he returns and turns against his own handlers!
Ernie says
Ofcourse you can beef up this wild information with PROOF , “christianblood”? You’re spreading des-information , you Russian troll !
gravenimage says
Can christianblood back up this grotesque claim? Somehow I doubt it…
But then, he constantly praises Shari’ah law in Chechnya, as well as discounting the importance of Jihad terror attacks there.
The only thing he is consistent about is sneering at Western victims of Jihad.
kuriakose says
christianblood: US has played a dirty role in aiding seperatists inChechnya all for strategic interests.
Quote: In the early 1990s, Dick Cheney’s company, Halliburton, had surveyed the offshore oil potentials of Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, and the entire Caspian Sea Basin. They estimated the region to be “another Saudi Arabia” worth several trillion dollars on today’s market. The US and UK were determined to keep that oil bonanza from Russian control by all means. The first target of Washington was to stage a coup in Azerbaijan against elected president Abulfaz Elchibey to install a President more friendly to a US-controlled Baku–Tbilisi–Ceyhan (BTC) oil pipeline, “the world’s most political pipeline,” bringing Baku oil from Azerbaijan through Georgia to Turkey and the Mediterranean.
At that time, the only existing oil pipeline from Baku was a Soviet era Russian pipeline that ran through the Chechen capital, Grozny, taking Baku oil north via Russia’s Dagestan province, and across Chechenya to the Black Sea Russian port of Novorossiysk. The pipeline was the only competition and major obstacle to the very costly alternative route of Washington and the British and US oil majors.
President Bush Sr. gave his old friends at CIA the mandate to destroy that Russian Chechen pipeline and create such chaos in the Caucasus that no Western or Russian company would consider using the Grozny Russian oil pipeline…….
https://off-guardian.org/2015/05/20/what-if-putin-is-telling-the-truth/.
Problem is that the controlling forces behind US, Europe are the shadowy forces of big money who will willingly use the devil himself to achieve their purposes. The US has been using regime change as an excuse to topple unfriendly presidents all in the name of democratic rights and freedom.
This is NOT to say Russia, China are blameless. I wish our friends here would be a bit more objective, that’s all.
christianblood says
kuriakose
(…Problem is that the controlling forces behind US, Europe are the shadowy forces of big money who will willingly use the devil himself to achieve their purposes. The US has been using regime change as an excuse to topple unfriendly presidents all in the name of democratic rights and freedom…)
Absolutely right, kuriakose! They are indeed using the devil himself, in the form of ISIS, Al-Qaeda and other jihadist groups as we speak!
They lie, deceive, betray, entrap, falsify, invade, bomb, back-stab and mass-murder to do their evil, greedy, avaricious satanic agenda all across the globe!
christianblood says
kuriakose
Thanks for the link and the historical perspective you shared on the well-documented role of the CIA played in the Chechen war against Russia!
As we speak, the CIA is at it again in the Ukraine, transferring its ISIS and Al-Qaeda jihadist proxies from Syria to Ukraine to fight the Russian-speaking Ukrainians in the Donbass region. See more of this on the link below:
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/447536-isis-chechen-islamists-ukraine/
gravenimage says
Notice that christianblood *still* hasn’t backed up his claim that US and NATO are behind Gökmen Tanis, and that the Jihad in Chechnya is actually caused by Westerners.
Ernie says
David , one question for you : is ” imam Tawhidi ” a reliable source of information ?
gravenimage says
Generally he seems to be–although I am always cautious. One of the few “moderate” Muslims, he is under constant death threat from his more orthodox coreligionists.
gravenimage says
Thank you, Boromir’s Horn–I had missed that so far. Thanks for bringing my attention to it.
Felix Quigley often weighs in at the end of posts, claiming that the only thing that can oppose Islam is if Trotskyites can conquer the West first and impose the horrors of Communism on us.
I often counter his claptrap–Communism is as totalitarian as is Islam–and so he has become more and more outrageous in his accusations against me.
On that thread, he claims I am “a very big DANGER TO US ALL” (his words) for saying that I support all speech save incitement to violence.
I like your reply to his post–very witty.
eduardo odraude says
Please sign this petition calling on Fox to bring back Judge Pirro. Fox removed Pirro because Pirro started asking the “wrong” questions about Representative Omar, and a Muslim producer at Fox, Hafsa Kamal Khan, complained. The Hamas-linked Muslim Brotherhood front CAIR also wanted Pirro removed. Let Fox know you don’t support the removal of people who ask completely legitimate questions to do with Islam and Omar:
https://www.change.org/p/suzanne-scott-bring-judge-jeanine-back-to-fox-news
CRUSADER says
Or we stop watching FOX NEWS until it gets back on the Right Track!
Mainstream Media is rather cooked and fried as it is….
paul 316 says
CRUSADER
I’m with you, STOP WATCHING FOX NEWS
Guy Forester says
It would probably help to find out who owns large blocks of Fox stock as well.
gravenimage says
Signed!
CRUSADER says
Something Fishy about this Catch and Release policy that is rampantly widespread in the West….
Invisible Law Enforcement in a Virtual Reality….
Way Back When says
I am watching the spin already, that this was “domestic violence.”
Robert or any reader who can remember, in the early 1980s an immigrant to the Netherlands, from either Iran or Pakistan, wrote an anonymous book to warn the Dutch people that in their kindness, warmness and gentleness, they had no clue about the venom and violent nature of the muslims they were importing. The author gave many examples from his own experience, both in his birth country and in the Netherlands. The government of the Netherlands banned the book as “hate speech.” Fifteen years ago it was still easy to find in translation on the internet, but now it is impossible and search engines are deliberately counter-productive. It does not help that the work was anonymous, and I can’t remember the title now.
If anyone can remember the title, and even better, provide a link or a means to find it, please post it here. It was a warning to the Dutch almost forty years ago by one who knew, and is worth remembering.
Robert, if you check the email provided against your contacts, you will remember me as one who regularly corresponded some fifteen years ago. Thank you for everything.
gravenimage says
Good to see you back here again.
Jan says
The book is:
De ondergang van Nederland
Land der naïeve dwazen
Mohamed Rasoel
1990
https://www.amazon.nl/Ondergang-van-Nederland-naieve-dwazen-ebook/dp/B078KLVX97
Way Back When says
That is exactly the book, thank you very much, Jan.
Way Back When says
It will not be presented, ever, now matter how searched for on goggle or any search page that uses goggle. It’s the very first link on Yandex.ru, however, if you search for The Downfall of the Netherlands, in English translation.
Benedict says
Its policies like these, that finally leads to shootings like the one seen in New Zealand. Governments have to change their policies towards the Muslim population in their countries, or there is going to be repeat of incidents seen earlier. Arrests and deportation of criminals and their families should be carried out.
gravenimage says
More applauding savagery from Benedict? No real surprise there. At least he isn’t demanding that Western women wear Hijabs and Burqas, which is his usual schtick here.
Walter Sieruk says
Those Muslim migrants who were allowed to enter the nations of Europe a,as that Turk jihad-minded Muslims in the Netherlands , who in murdered those people in the of city of Utrecht on that tram is tragically on the the many jihadist evils and vicious violence committed devout and dangerous Muslim terrorists .As jihadists threats of murderous Islamic terrorism in the Netherlands , France Germany along with the other countries of Western Europe is most awful This is the outcome of mass Muslim immigration into Europe as well.as many Muslims not only being ungrateful but even worse violent deadly. those Muslim migrants are so very arrogant to the point that they have became criminals . As in some of them engaged in rioting and even rapes of the European girls and women. In addition to this vile brutal behavior by the heinous Muslim who were kindly permitted to enter the nations of Europe to live, As the countries of ,for example the Netherlands France, Germany Sweden, Denmark etc.
This unthankful Islamic spirit on the part of those lawless violent Muslims who immigrated to the countries of Europe may be explain, in part, by the fact that the Muslim fundamentalist group that even had the president of Egypt assassinated in the month of October of the year 1981 has a fifty –five booklet that is was written only for Muslims fundamentalists but was later discover by non-Muslims. This booklet’s title is THE NEGLECTED DUTY. One scholar, Johannes Jansen who had thoroughly investigated Islam and Islamic terrorism has even discover that those Muslims, who had entered Europe of behaved in violent and heinous ways, are actually action out what they view and a sacred individual duty of the jihad as by engaging in awful violent criminal action in non-Muslim lands . As Jansen revealed that jihad booklet of Islam, THE NEGLECTED DUTY “contains all the ideological material needed to justify the attacks of 9/11 or any other acts of terror committed to frighten non-Muslims. And he thinks the document explains the criminal behavior of suburban and center –city immigrant youngsters in many European cities; its author clearly ‘sees Islam as license to kill rob and commit arson.’ “ [1]
Nevertheless, many of the apologists for Islam still have that blatant gall , in spite of all the facts of reality, to actually make the claim the Islam is a “peaceful religion.” What a totally false to make that Islam is “a peaceful religion “What Bull! A “peaceful religion” indeed.
[1] THE ISLAM IN ISLAMIC TERRORISM by Ibn Warraq pages 308, 309.
Walter Sieruk says
That vicious and murderous jihadist who is a Islamic terrorist shooter in that tram in the city of Utrecht of the Netherlands was not the first nor will he be the last Muslim terrorist to inflect deadly Islamic violence on the people of Europe in a European nation.
Many jihadists have the Islamic agenda and quest to conquer the nations of the West for Islam. Either “by hook or by crook” as in by engaging in the stealth jihad or in the violent and deadly “jihad of the sword” As seen in this recent jihad attack in Germany which harmed twelve people. Likewise part of all this in is by the Muslim infiltration of the Western countries which is being accomplished by the great number of Muslim migrants who are entering the Western nations.
As a Former Muslim had revealed in his book when he wrote that “there has been large –scale immigration into the West, from Islamic nations…of Muslims who are implacably hostile to the West, have no desire to learn why the West became so rich and tolerant , and certainly have no desire to assimilate. They feel no gratitude of allegiance to their Western host nations; their only obligations are to fellow Muslims.”
The author further clarifies by adding. “The mere presence of so many Muslims in the West had affected the domestic and international behavior of governments, whose foreign policy is dominated by fear of offending their Muslim population ready to riot on the slightest pretext. Those unassimilated Muslims are committed to introducing Islamic laws in the West. , and they are able to do so cleverly exploiting the freedoms created over the centuries by the infidels.” [1]
As for that above statement that the “Muslim population [is] ready to riot on the slightest pretext…” This is valid evidence that the old saying is true .Which is that “Evil is always looking for an excuse.”
On this very important subject another scholar in his book informs the reader that “Islamic involvement in the political process is much more advanced in Europe than in the United States.” and he further makes it known that “Of all the continents of the world, Europe is probably the number one target by Muslim strategists who are seeking world dominance.” [2]
[1] THE ISLAM IN ISLAMIC TERRORISM by Ibn Warraq, page 354
[2] HOW ISLAM PLANS TO CHANCE THE WORLD by William Wagner , pages 176, 195.
Walter Sieruk says
This Muslim/ jihadist shooter and murderer in the country of the Netherlands is a very harsh reminder of those violent and deadly Muslim migrants who have entered the different nations of Europe and commit crimes of the most vile ,brutal and heinous sort countries, as seen in this recent Muslim/jihadist shooting murders in that tram in the city of Utrecht in the Netherlands is wicked enough S till this jihad affront also reveals the jihad minded Islamic contempt .dishonor and reproach towards the people of the Netherlands as well as Muslim malice toward the people of all other Western nations who were kind yet foolish enough to allow them, those Muslim migrants to enter, invade, their home countries of Europe in the first place. This type of situation is reflected in the Bible .Which reads “When the wicked comes, contempt comes also; with dishonor comes reproach.” Proverbs 18:3. [N.K.J.V.]
Furthermore, those jihadist Muslims with their Islamic way of thinking by their well thought Islamic schemes for the action of involvement in their violent and sheath jihad for the advancement of Islam in the many different Western nations. Those sly scheming jihadists are, somewhat, of a reminder of the information reveled in the Bible in Proverbs 15:26. In which the reader is informed that even “The thoughts of the wicked are an abomination to the Lord…”
Paul says
Evidently the guy was a real piece of work. Totally friggin’ nuts, drug dealer/user, violent, unpredictable, known by everyone in his neighborhood to be dangerous. I think honestly it is a stretch to connect him directly to jihadism, but of course the larger question looms: how a Muslim upbringing can warp a personality. I lived in Utrecht for 14 years, and I know the type.
https://www.ad.nl/dossier-schietpartij-utrecht/gokmen-37-is-doorgesnoven-gek-een-drugsdrealer-en-een-instabiel-figuur~aab0a880/
gravenimage says
Having links to the Islamic State is indeed about Jihad.
medforth says
Utrecht attack leads to heightened security for Dutch Jews: the terrorist threatened violence in the past against a conservative news website+++
Read more:
https://searchlight-germany.blogspot.com/2019/03/utrecht-attack-leads-to-heightened.html
gravenimage says
Utrecht jihad murderer captured, had been arrested before for suspected links to the Islamic State, but was released
……………………….
Who can be surprised by this?
Tekyo Pantzov says
KEEP TRACK OF HIM? Are you kidding? Anyone who has ANY link to Islamic terrorists should be shot on the spot.
Beneath the Veil of Consciousness says
Where’d he get the gun? That would be an interesting trail to follow. I wonder where it would lead?
Jan says
He was a drug dealer, they all have guns, so I don’t expect much from thist trail. Also witnesses said he used a hand gun with a longer barrel than usual. It was not a big assault riffle, this attack does not seem that well prepared.
Georg says
“had been arrested before for suspected links to the Islamic State, but was released”
As Ilhan Omar implored an American judge to do with a number of her constituents. Apparently in that district it is IS militants’ wishes > safety of American people.
gravenimage says
Grimly true.
Butch says
According to some news outlets, some government source apparently stated that this was domestic violence. Were the victims in any shape or form related to him?
David M says
That’s what they are going with on Australian media. Sounds like disinformation to me.
Jan says
This is just before the Dutch elections. Thus spin is being used to blunt the idea of an attack, an honour killing or random crazy drug addict is much more convenient explanation for MSM and their political mainstream friends.
Indiana Tom says
Catch and release.
UNCLE VLADDI says
It’s not that the “intelligence services” are over-loaded, it’s that as ever their political masters’ own motto still is, always was, and always will be: “There’s No Money In Solutions!” Ban islam as the global crime and murder gang is always was, still is, and always will be, and the intelligence services can go back to monitoring China – in whose pockets, “coincidentally,” their most of their political masters currently reside!
JAN says
This is not how the Dutch government and media report the facts. In the Netherlands it is reported that he is not known for Islamic militancy, his brother how ever is known by the intelligence services as Islamic radical. The shooter has a long list of convictions, he is known for violence and has used a gun in public before. The attack was I’ll prepared and the shooter has killed far less people than a well prepared killer would have done. He did it after rush hour and the location of the attack is an well known Muslim slump, not a logical unbeliever Target.