“ISIS has come to implement Islam as it is, by the book. It has not come up with anything on its own. It evoked the religious texts exactly as they are. It did not distort, change, or replace anything. It came with the text and implement it exactly as it is….They came in order to [implement] the proper Islam, complete with slave girls, the rape…”
Will Islamic apologists and their Leftist allies denounce Dr. Arwa Al-Khattabi as a racist, bigoted, “Islamophobe”? Of course not. They’ll just hope you don’t notice what she says.
“Yemeni Academic Dr. Arwa Al-Khattabi: ISIS Represents Islam; We Must Discuss This Honestly and Take Responsibility for What Is Happening in the World,” MEMRI, March 16, 2019:
On March 16, 2019, BBC Arabic (U.K.) hosted a debate about extremism and Islam. Dr. Makram Khouri-Machool, the director of the Cambridge-based European Centre for the Study of Extremism, said that most Muslim societies are peaceful and that Islam should not be accused of extremism. He said that there had been no killing of Arab Christians in the Middle East until American and Western occupation. Dr. Arwa Al-Khattabi, a Yemeni expert in European and German history, said that ISIS represents Islam and that it has attempted to implement it by the book without distorting, changing, or adding anything. She said that Arabs and Muslims must discuss the matter honestly and take responsibility for what is happening in the world rather than act like victims and blame others.
Following are excerpts:
Dr. Makram Khour-Machool: This is an important point for everyone to understand – the matter is between extremist forces in the West and the Muslims. This is why we say that most Muslim societies in the world are peaceful societies, and Westerners cannot look at the religion of Islam and accuse it of extremism in the world. This must stop – from a scientific, legal, practical, and procedural perspective.
Host: Okay let’s hear from…
Dr. Makram Khour-Machool: Just one more thing… The problem is that the Arab regimes do not have the power to stand before the European regimes and tell them: “What you want to apply to us – you must apply to yourselves.”
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We had not seen the killing of Arab Christians and easterners until the intervention and occupation by America and the West in the Arab east and in our Arab world. The Arab Christians lived with their Muslim brothers in security in their countries, and there were no problems until the invading Western powers came in and nurtured the hatred and supported it financially, as they still do. Thus, there is no connection or correlation between Western terrorism and Christianity in the East.
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Host: Do you agree with Dr. Gabriel Sawma’s point that ISIS represents Islam?
Dr. Arwa Al-Khattabi: Yes. This is the truth, and we must discuss this in full honesty and fairness. We must confront our [problems]. ISIS has come to implement Islam as it is, by the book. It has not come up with anything on its own. It evoked the religious texts exactly as they are. It did not distort, change, or replace anything. It came with the text and implement it exactly as it is.
[…]
They came in order to [implement] the proper Islam, complete with slave girls, the rape…
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It is very unfortunate that we want to deny… We have a huge problem and we must recognize this before [we do] anything else. We have a problem, and we must take responsibility for it before we blame others for what is happening in the world. We cannot shut our eyes and deny this. It is happening because of us. When we deny things and place the blame on others, as if we are forced to do all this and are not the reason for what is happening… We must all own up to what is happening.
mortimer says
Hear, hear. An honest description of the agenda of Sharia law.
Why doesn’t TODD GREEN DENOUNCE Dr. Arwa Al-Khattabi ???
Perhaps, because he is a coward and cannot defend his ideas against someone more knowledgeable.
A coward RUNS from debate.
Rufolino says
This woman is perfectly correct !
But how do you make the blind see the truth ?
jimjfox says
TRUTH is a relative concept in Islam; every word of the Koran is true, everything that contradicts it is lies. This is what the great majority of muslims believe & belief trumps fact every time.
Walter Sieruk says
As for those brutal, cruel and vile ISIS jihadist /Muslims kidnapping girls and women and using them as sex slaves. This actually started with the founder and prophet of Islam, Muhammad, who all Muslims look to as an example of how to behave. It’s revealed in the book JESUS AND THE JIHADIS: CONFRONTING THE RAGE OF ISIS by the Christian authors Graig A. Evans and Jeremiah J. Johnson For on page 124 it informs the reader “Muhammad endorsed enslavement of all types…he endorsed sex-slavers as a gift form Allah , and enjoyed offering sex-slaves as gifts…” Further page 125 informs the reader that “Islam has enslaved more people than any other culture.”
elee says
Let’s get rational here. Everyone who wants to be a 7th-century Arab, move to Mogadishu or Pakistan or some other Muslim utopia. And when you get a toothache don’t go asking for some western kafir aspirin. It’s a kafir innovation. Kill the vaccinators and praise Allah while you watch your children die.
Now can someone explain the huge mass appeal of this evil cult?
UNCLE VLADDI says
Sure I can – islam is an idolatrous exercise in total criminal irresponsibility. So it’s irresistible to leftopathic libertine “liberal” criminal gangsters, too.
Islam teaches irresponsibility. It’s nothing more than a list of victim-blaming excuses for its members’ own criminal desires and actions. In this way it is exactly like the teachings of its Western libertine “liberal” counterparts.
Criminals in general insist there are no real crimes nor criminals, because we’re all only ever helpless victims anyway – of predestined, “inevitable” circumstances beyond our control / victims of “society” / mere “products” of our environments (or, as their god, Karl Marx put it, of “historical predeterminism”) and as their holy mobster “muslim” brethren prefer to proudly put it, “slaves of unknown and unknowable allah!”
Literal “Psycho-paths” (Greek for “Thought-Killers”) fear fear (the thought of the mere memory of previous pains) AS more pain, and so hate thinking in both them selves and in all others. They also hate music and sex, because it induces a loss of control.
Thus while Muhammad had to show his sexual strength, he also had to bow to others’ complaints about seeing his wives going potty at night.
windrush48 says
The “appeal” is really quite simple …… you never have to be responsible for your own actions and deeds – no matter how depraved, evil, or hateful, you are DIRECTED in your actions and ‘you’ have no responsibility to any other power. Kind of like catholics … as long as you do what you are told, you are absolved of your wrong doing. The difference is – the catholic is absolved before God … the muslim is absolved BY ALLAH before the entire world and guaranteed paradise for their actions.
What brainless dolt would not appreciate the benefits of that?
jimjfox says
Appeal? Lifelong indoctrination plus death if you ‘leave your religion’ AND allah’s sadistic cruelty in the afterlife [skin roasted off & replaced; repeat ad infinitum]. Yep, I see it!
Jinxmim says
Nice to see an honest Muslim. So many people get caught up in verse comparisons, interpretations, etc. that they overlook the only thing that matters. How most Muslims understand the Qu’ran. Every country with a law code based on the Qu’ran is a nightmare and they all have the same patterns of problems. As far as how much value the Qu’ran has in guiding people to create a functioning, stable society it’s worthless. Stop reading it and get your money back. The Bible on the other hand, especially the New Testament, is the basis of Western society. A largely successful experiment with individual freedom and tolerance. There really is something in there for everyone.
Michael Copeland says
“how much value the Qu’ran has….. ”
Arthur Schopenhauer said:
“I have been quite unable to find in it one single idea of value.”
Walter Sieruk says
Those vicious, malicious misogynistic , murderous Muslims of ISIS who kidnap Yazidi girls and women and use them as sex slaves which cruel vicious crime against those females and ,very much ,a sin against the God of the Bible, ,yet no a sin to the false god of Islam . The jihadist ISIS with their hateful spite for may be seen by their most savage Islamic behavior possible to brutally, callously heartlessly kidnap and enslave for sex slavery as well as slavery for other things the Yazidi girls and women are totally despicable One of the major reasons as the how those ISIS/jihadists are so cruel as to kidnap young girls and use and exploit them as sex slaves is found in the Bible. For the Bible teaches that there are some people who are extremely heartless, cold, callous and dangerous because they have had “their conscience seared with a hot iron.” First Timothy 4:2. [ K.J.V.] In this case of the “hot iron” is Islam.
Those Muslims who viciously enslave those young women for sex has proven by their action is that Islam is a false religion. They have proven that Islam is a violent, sex –driven ,lust-filled demonic religion .
CogitoErgoSum says
I hope Amazon has stopped selling whatever book it is that ISIS was using for its ideas.
Falsafa says
Please Mr Spencer – there are 100+ genuine Scholars including those based at (your frequently quoted) Al-Azhar University. All have signed the attached open letter detailing how each of the so called ‚ISIS’s transgressions (to put it mildly) are in direct violation with Islamic Jurisprudence and religious norms….direct references and all.
I know we can‘t expect you to be balanced in your work as that would not be in line with your mandate. But for those genuinely seeking truth, beyond a warped view of Islam which you espouse here in your blog and publications, please read carefully the link reference I have provided here:
http://www.lettertobaghdadi.com
thank you
CogitoErgoSum says
Will the proclamations in this letter over-ride what is in the Quran or will the Quran over-ride what is in the letter?
CogitoErgoSum says
Are those considered to be members of the “People of the Book” still expected to show humble submission to Islam along with payment of the Jizya? What if some of those people do not pay either because they cannot or simply do not want to submit the Jizya? What should be done with such people? Are they still to be treated as equals to Muslims? What happens to people who do not quality as “People of the Book?” Are they treated as equals also? Are you saying proclamations made by Allah in the Quran, such as the one made in verse 9:29, are eligible to be put up for a vote and the Jizya was abolished (before the return of Jesus)? And the same was done with slavery? When were these votes held and how often are things in the Quran put up for a vote? Are only people who have passed a proficiency test in the Arabic language allowed to vote or can non-Muslims vote too? Your letter brings up so many questions — which many must have asked already — so please tell me where I can find the answers.
PABLO says
Falsify,
Give it a rest.
crawford421 says
Taqiyya!
mortimer says
Nice try, FALSE-A-FA. You think we’re unable to read and understand the following:
– Dr. Ahmed al-Tayeb, the Sheikh and Grand Imam of Al Azhar refused to condemn ISIS terrorism, “Al Azhar cannot accuse any [Muslim] of being a kafir [infidel], as long as he believes in Allah and the Last Day—even if he commits every atrocity,” adding: “I cannot denounce ISIS as un-Islamic, but I can say that they cause corruption on earth. ISIS believes that those [Muslims] who commit the great sins are kafirs and can be killed. Thus if I denounce them of being un-Islamic, I fall into the same [trap] I am now condemning.”
– in 2015, the former imam of the Grand Mosque of Mecca, Sheikh Adel al-Kalbani, declared that the Islamic State and Saudi Arabia “follow the same thought”. He has stated as well, that ISIS is a “true product of Salafism,” the same brand of Islam as officially espoused by Saudi Arabia. He clearly stated, “We [in Saudi Arabia] follow the same thought [as ISIS], but apply it in a refined way…They draw their ideas from what is written in our own books, from our own principles… we do not criticise the thought on which it (ISIS) is based”.
CRUSADER says
Yup.
More taqiyya.
Al-Azhar institution doesn’t want to lose its standing….
….they want to keep Obama as a believer.
gravenimage says
The dishonest Falsafa wrote:
Please Mr Spencer – there are 100+ genuine Scholars including those based at (your frequently quoted) Al-Azhar University. All have signed the attached open letter detailing how each of the so called ‚ISIS’s transgressions (to put it mildly) are in direct violation with Islamic Jurisprudence and religious norms….direct references and all.
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This says nothing about Muslims raping their victims and using them as sex slaves.
What does Al Azhar have to say on this matter?
“Female al-Azhar prof: Allah allows Muslims to rape non-Muslim women”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/01/female-al-azhar-prof-allah-allows-muslims-to-rape-non-muslim-women
“Washington: A female Islamic professor has claimed that Allah has allowed Muslim men to rape non-Muslim women in order to ‘humiliate’ them, report stated.
Suad Saleh, who is a professor from the renowned Al-Azhar University in Cairo, Egypt, made the claims during an interview to a TV channel.
According to The Inquisitr News report, in the video posted by LiveLeak, Saleh says that Allah has given the Muslim men a way to have sexual relations with slave women that is ‘legitimate’.
Saleh suggests that the only time it is acceptable for Muslim men to enslave a woman for sexual purposes is during a ‘legitimate war’ between Muslims and their enemies such as that with Israel…”
More:
I know we can‘t expect you to be balanced in your work as that would not be in line with your mandate.
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How is correctly citing Islam’s condoning rape and sex slavery not balanced? It is simply the truth.
Wellington says
Falsafa: Others have already ably responded to what is either your ignorance or deceit (I’m bettin’ a case of beer and a rack of BBQ ribs that it’s the latter), but I would nonetheless point out Sura 4:89, Sura 8:12, Sura 8:39, Sura 9:29 and Sura 98:6 just for starters why you’re full of shit.
You can still fool ignorant dhimmis, Falsafa, but there are so many who post here at JW, in addition of course to Robert Spencer himself, who cannot be fooled by the likes of you. And know this too: With each passing year more and more non-Muslims are coming to know what Islam really intends for us all. Eff off.
Paul J says
You tell him Wellington + 1
Papa Whiskey says
We must all own up to what is happening.
(Snort.) I should live so long!
somehistory says
“It is happening because of us.”
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moslims everywhere will be blaming her for what happened in NZ because she is telling the truth.
“extremist forces in the West and the Muslims”
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and the usual lies from the moslim creep…blaming all of the terrorism on the “West.” Any Christians who are bold enough and have the opportunity…and are still alive, of course,…could say what great big lies he is telling about the living together peacefully before.
Paul J says
It’s called pretext, say anything critical of islam or condemn any activity and it’s regarded as persecution thereby justifying a violent response. The only “innocent” non muslims are those who don’t criticize or condemn them and also pay the jizra. That’s what they mean by not attacking innocent people. Mo started it to justify his 8th and first successful raid during the forbidden months.
Debi Brand says
“ISIS has come to implement Islam as it is, by the book, complete with slave girls, the rape”
Indeed– “by ‘the Book.'”
Tony Naim says
There is absolutely no truth whatsoever to what Dr Makool is claiming: about the murder of Christians in the Middle East, which did not happen until American or Western occupation. I am a Maronite Christian from Lebanon. My Church was born in the Seventh century precisely as a result of and because of Islamic violence against Christians in the Byzantine Empire that had started on day 1 of Islam. Let this idiot review his historical information before spreading his lies.
gravenimage says
Yes–violence against Christians in lands conquered by Muslims is nothing new.
somehistory says
Tony Naim
Thank you for confirming the Truth of the matter. From inside the lion’s mouth, it is easy to see the sharp teeth and smell the hot breath. The lion may be able to hide those things from a distance.
Charles says
“In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act”, George Orwell. This is the internal dialog desperately needed in the Islamic world.
TKF says
There’s the rainbows and lollipops Islam that Muslims try and sell the West, and then there’s the REAL Islam, the one that Mohammad invented, the one that ISIS and their ilk follow to the letter. The prophet didn’t hug it out with his enemies, he wasn’t some kind of 7th century Beto O’ Rourke. He beheaded his enemies, had sex slaves and spread his twisted vision at then point of sword. Islam is a religion of peace, if by peace you mean…AFTER everyone is either dead or Muslim.
CRUSADER says
you forgot about including the unicorns and the cotton-candy fart clouds…
you must be exclusionary!
CRUSADER says
Don’t count out Beta O’Dork!
He eats dirt, under foot, as a way to counter defeat.
David Grisez says
I remember the statement made by our previous President Barack Obama telling us that the Islamic State is not Islamic, and that no religion condones the actions of the Islamic State. Well the statement was false. The Islamic State was very Islamic. They based their actions on the teachings of the Koran and the Hadiths. This included taking the Yazidi women as sex slaves. This included throwing homosexuals off tall buildings to their deaths and other things.
Rufolino says
Thank you David and hear, hear !
Tony46 says
Strong and honest woman.
mortimer says
“ISIS came to implement the texts exactly as they are … it did not distort …” – Dr.Arwa Al-Khattabi
gravenimage says
Yemeni scholar: “ISIS has come to implement Islam as it is, by the book, complete with slave girls, the rape”
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God knows this is true.
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