It is, or should be, common sense that the ills that are evident in Islamic states will be transported to the West via immigration. Over 12 million Muslims have been killed by Muslims since 1948, and fierce antagonism continues between Islamic sects.
“During a German language course for asylum seekers in Freistadt in Upper Austria, there was a massive brawl…..Because the migrants did not agree on the topic of a ban on alcohol for Muslims, a student from Afghanistan (32 years old) pulled out and punched his fellow countryman (44 years old) in the face with his fist. The son of the 44-year-old Afghan wanted to defend his father and also took a fist.”
Any manifestation of Westernization/modernization among Muslims is deemed by some Muslims to be anti-Sharia (which it is) — anti-Islam and apostate behavior. Girls and women have been murdered for being too Westernized, and incidents of honor violence are largely covered up. Many Muslim cab drivers are also refusing to transport alcohol and dogs. Muslims who wish to assimilate can expect violence from other Muslims. Pluralistic Muslims are unacceptable in normative Islam, and not even the West is a safe place for many of them.
“Fight among asylum seekers broke out during German language course in Austria: The trigger was different opinions about Islam,” Searchlight Germany (thanks to The Religion of Peace), April 10, 2019:
During a German language course for asylum seekers in Freistadt in Upper Austria, there was a massive brawl. According to a report in the newspaper Kronen Zeitung, the participants had argued loudly during the five-minute break about the ban on alcohol by Muslims. “So far, we have not had any problems with course participants,” said Klaus Riegler, head of the Chamber of Labour. So far, however. Recently, a dispute escalated during the break of a German language course for asylum seekers, which was held at the premises of the Chamber of Labour in Freistadt. Because the migrants did not agree on the topic of a ban on alcohol for Muslims, a student from Afghanistan (32 years old) pulled out and punched his fellow countryman (44 years old) in the face with his fist. The son of the 44-year-old Afghan wanted to defend his father and also took a fist.The course instructor was outside the training room during the conflict. An employee of the Chamber of Labour called the police. The two slightly injured were treated by a doctor. ….
mortimer says
The school curricula of Saudi Arabia for junior and senior classes teach children to hate the Shi’ite Muslims and consider them ‘REJECTERS’ and words that are worse.
As the ‘near enemy’, Shi’ites and Sunnite Muslims consider one another enemies of Allah.
William A Carr says
This would be hilarious if it were possible to laugh at how they behave even to one another. Religion of peace? Best of people? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha und so weiter.
Mike says
There is only one good sort of muslim : tje Saudi Arabian . Others are less pure.
medforth says
Pakistani rapist had his throat cut, one hand chopped off and one cheek cut out in Innsbruck, Austria+++
On Wednesday evening terrifying facts became known about the death of the alleged murder victim of Innsbruck-Wilten: As the newspaper ÖSTERREICH learned from a well-informed source, the 28-year-old was so badly battered in the apartment by the three Indians – a man (22 years old) and two women (20 and 21 years old) – that even the tough homicide detectives were disgusted: The Pakistani ( a convicted sex offender) not only had his hand cut off and his throat slit, but was also stabbed eleven times in the stomach with a knife. In addition, at least one cheek was cut from his face. There is also said to be further mutilation and the suspicion that some of the terrible injuries were inflicted on him while he was still alive – in other words, that he may even have been tortured to death.What was leaked on Wednesday evening is in any case disastrous: according to the report, the victim is a convicted sex offender who, as an asylum seeker, first went to Greece, then to Hungary and finally to Austria. In 2014 he was sentenced to five years’ imprisonment for rape, sexual abuse of minors, sexual harassment and public sexual acts. Absurd: In prison he again filed an asylum application, which was of course rejected. As soon as he was released from prison, the Pakistani, who was most recently in Italy, met the three Indians in Innsbruck, with whom he celebrated together. In the course of the party he approached the sisters indecently, then he tried to attack one. It is unclear who stopped the brutal attacker, knocked him out, cut off his hand and cut his throat.
Read more:
https://searchlight-germany.blogspot.com/2019/04/pakistani-rapist-had-his-throat-cut-one.html
keith says
Sounds like a reasonable response to a Musloid sex offender.
gravenimage says
It is hard to tell, but this sounds like Muslim-on-Muslim violence. I don’t think anyone should be applauding this savagery. Also, there is a good chance that this creep’s murder had nothing to do with his being a sex offender.
Terry Gain says
I disagree that Muslim on Muslim violence should not be celebrated. If they are killing each other they might eventually wake up to the evil ideology which motivates them.
elee says
Terry Gain: “When your enemy is destroying himself, do not intervene.”
———Napoleon Bonaparte
gravenimage says
Terry, Muslims have been doing this for 1400 years now, and few Muslims have left Islam because of it.
As for Muslims attacking Muslims in the West being a good thing, this actually puts us in a great deal of danger. I very much doubt that Muslims are going to be so scrupulous as to ensure that there are no Infidel victims caught in the crossfire.
Havoc says
Wake up to the evil of Islam? I doubt it.
FYI says
muslim 1 islam is “THE religion of peace”.Discuss
muslim2 I’ll MURDER anyone who says it isn’t..
muslim 3 But isn’t that ..ironic?isn’t homicide morally wrong?where is the peace in violence?
muslim 2 Aha!A crypto-kuffar and an islamophobe!
muslim 3 I’m just saying..a christian told me there were things called commandments of God in the Bible.
And the 6th one condemns homicide as a sin:isn’t it funny how the koran teaches the OPPOSITE to Exodus 20 v 1-17?maybe we should at least TRY,although maybe it is 1,400 years too late..Anyway,the kuffar,to be honest are right:islam is NOT a peaceful religion.Come on,we all know it!
muslim 2 “the sixth” whaa?What are you?A Jew?
Ex-muslim well,Thank goodness I left islam …oh…I’m in the wrong room aren’t I?I thought this was the Atheist society..and is it too early to come out of the closet?
muslim1,2,3..Get him!.let’s beat up this apostate for telling us the truth about islam that we would prefer not to hear,using the koran’s
commands to do violence as a convenient excuse to project our failings onto others, as we cannot deal with the illogicalities of islam ourselves in a civilized,grown-up manner like adults.
SemiDave says
Love it!
observer says
Remember little Zakari al-Jaber… ?
These people are programmed lunatics.
Things will never change.
gravenimage says
Yes–that was a hideous case:
“Saudi Arabia: Man asks mother if she is Shia, then cab driver beheads her 6-year-old son”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2019/02/saudi-arabia-man-asks-mother-if-she-is-shia-then-cab-driver-beheads-her-6-year-old-son
somehistory says
If a Christian refugee…migrant…had been in the class, the molsims’ common enemy…they wouldn’t have been so ready to fight each other.
A “massive brawl” and the account mentions three people…a 32 year old, a 44 year old and the older one’s son. They “took out fists.” At least, they didn’t have knives, because surely they would have used them. There is no real agreement except regarding those they hate.
gravenimage says
Austria: Massive brawl breaks out among Muslim migrants over differing opinions on Islamic law
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That says it all–what fine citizens these violent Mohammedans are going to be! sarc/off
Trish says
Well,, they are being sent to the West because of the violence and the problems they will cause! That’s the one world order that the powers that be are working on obtaining for us!
DHazard says
Ingratitude might as well be one of the Pillars of Islam. Muslims came to Europe to escape Islam, somebody else’s Islam. But that “somebody else” is also running away Europe. No problems if they would just be a little humble and let other people choose for themselves how they will practice their own religions. But built into Islam is the imperative to spread as well as claims that the Quran and Muhammad are perfect.
Good Muslims make bad neighbors for everybody, both Muslim and Kaffir*
*on a whim I googled “Kaffir”. The definition is not what I expected. There are 3 definitions and the one used worldwide by Muslims is not in first place. Instead I learn for the first time that white South Africans referred to blacks in an offensive way as kaffir. This MUST have been intentional but kudos to them, they minimized the Muslim and maximized the White Supremacist.
Kaf·fir ˈkafər
noun: Kaffir; plural noun: Kaffirs; noun: kaffir; plural noun: kaffirs; noun: kafir; plural noun: kafirs; noun: Kafir; plural noun: Kafirs
1. OFFENSIVE•SOUTH AFRICAN
an insulting term for a black African.
2. OFFENSIVE
an insulting term used by some Muslims for non-Muslims.
3. HISTORICAL
a member of a people of the Hindu Kush mountains of northeastern Afghanistan, who did not convert to
Islam until the 19th century.
gravenimage says
Muslims also come to the West to spread Islam here.
elee says
The South African usage may be historical. Muslims were selling African captive slaves to (mainly Portugese) traders at the mouth of the Congo before Columbus set sail. Somebody forgot to tell Malcolm X. Sheer speculation, of course, on my part. Then again the Dutch were a big naval power then too, they rivalled the Portugese and the Turks in war and trade in the Indian Ocean, so Dutch settlers in South Africa might have learned the word from subjects of the Ottoman Caliph. I don’t think anyone has ever speculated that the term originated anywhere other than in Arabic Islam.
Trish says
Google will always give the leftist answer as the correct answer.
elee says
Rejoice soldiers of Allah! When you have killed or converted all the kafirs Allah will still need your strong arms and sharp blades! Did you think you’d be unemployed in Dar-es Salaam while there are apostates and hypocrites to be killed?
David Grisez says
Disagreements among groups of Muslims can very quickly escalate to violence. Because of the teachings of Islam one group of Muslims can consider another group of Muslims that they disagree with as apostates who must be killed. Also other disagreements can result in violence among Muslims. One example that I read about some years ago if I remember correctly involved a Mosque in Pakistan. This Mosque had two factions in it. Each faction wanted its leader to lead the Prayers. The dispute between the two factions quickly escalated into a full gun shoot out in the Mosque. By the time it was over around 17 people were injured and there was blood all over the floor of the Mosque. Islam is so violent and deadly, even among different groups of Muslims. It appears like the only way Muslims know to settle their differences is to fight it out.
elee says
Disagreements among groups of Muslims can very quickly escalate to violence. Agreements among groups of Muslims can very quickly escalate to violence. I’m starting to see a pattern here. And if they do it at the mosque presumably they won’t hit a lot of kafirs.
Kerry Wade says
The fact is that if the world was inhabited by Muslims alone, the world would not last long because they would end up killing each other until the entire disease wiped out itself. It would argue for isolating these animals, solitary confinement period. Better still put them under the blade, let the punishment be according to their law, beheading.
Terry Gain says
Graven Image
“Terry, Muslims have been doing this for 1400 years now, and few Muslims have left Islam because of it.
As for Muslims attacking Muslims in the West being a good thing, this actually puts us in a great deal of danger. I very much doubt that Muslims are going to be so scrupulous as to ensure that there are no Infidel victims caught in the crossfire.”
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GI
With respect, you are wrong. Muslims are leaving Islam once they learn about Islam. The exodus would be even greater if otherwise well intentioned people would stop foolishly claiming that Islam is a religion when we all know that it is a totalitarian, supremacist, violent, xenophobic. misogynist, political ideology with irrational religious aspects.
Terry Gain says
Sorry, I forgot to mention conquest.
gravenimage says
Terry, thank you for the reply. You wrote:
GI
With respect, you are wrong. Muslims are leaving Islam once they learn about Islam.
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Terry, I said few Muslims are leaving Islam once learning about it–not that none of them are.
But, grimly, most Muslims–and all pious Muslims–have no problem with the horrors of Islam. If they did, there would be no Jihad.
I doubt that the Muslims brawling above have a problem with Islam and its violence.
More:
The exodus would be even greater if otherwise well intentioned people would stop foolishly claiming that Islam is a religion when we all know that it is a totalitarian, supremacist, violent, xenophobic. misogynist, political ideology with irrational religious aspects.
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Terry Gain says
Apr 13, 2019 at 7:16 pm
Sorry, I forgot to mention conquest.
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Actually, Muslims have a better chance at leaving Islam in the West than they do in Dar-al-Islam.
It is not Infidels considering Islam to be a religion who are preventing Muslims from leaving Islam. The death penalty for apostates in Islam is nowhere embraced by the West.
Terry Gain says
Hi GI
You are quite correct, however our culture is so much stronger than theirs. If only we were willing to champion it. I just watched 20 members of the Palestinian Authority dressed up for some occasion. All the men were standing in a line wearing western suits. We should unabashedly export our culture to the Middle East, including Obama’s most excellent proclamation that
NO RELIGION CONDONES KILLING
🙂
gravenimage says
Terry, I very much agree that our culture is much stronger–and better–than is Islam, and that we should be championing it.
I don’t, sadly, think that “Palestinians” wearing suits is proof of their being civilized. I have my own standards of sartorial correctness, but, objectively, adopting Western clothing is not the same as adopting Western values.
When Abbas started wearing suits rather than adopting the “revolutionary” and “third-world dictator” look of Yasser Arafat, it didn’t really mean that he was actually any more civilized.
And Obama was not, as I’m sure you know, saying that Islam is not a religion–he was simply lying about Islam not condoning killing.
Avenger says
You can’t be serious Terry! We (the West) are losing on all fronts – population, geography, politics, colleges and universities etc.
Just because muslims wear Western dress we are winning the culture war? Lol! The 911 terrorists loved living in Western culture until they decided to murder about 3400 Americans. For every one Muslim that leaves their fleabag religion, 100 non Muslims convert to Islam (I will need to document that).
Wishful thinking like Mortimer.
will Rodgers says
islam is not a religion ; is a pagan tribal cult of muhammad. Like Jim Jones and other fake cults he convinced people that he was a chosen leader. Who was he and why did and he and his murderous uncle start this cult. Good way to make money when you are a desert bedouin and hundreds of wealthy Christian Merchants are traversing the Silk Route across the desert with money and goods in hand. So they teamed up and started the first”turnpike” . Now the merchants had three chances to get past the tool booth. First, pay a lot of money or give up your goods, Second, Bow down to muhammad [ later they added allah which BTW means ‘the god’- how original] Third, bow down and have your head cut off. you can convert a ot of people quickly with those choices.
Terry Gain says
Terry, I very much agree that our culture is much stronger–and better–than is Islam, and that we should be championing it.
I don’t, sadly, think that “Palestinians” wearing suits is proof of their being civilized. I have my own standards of sartorial correctness, but, objectively, adopting Western clothing is not the same as adopting Western values.
When Abbas started wearing suits rather than adopting the “revolutionary” and “third-world dictator” look of Yasser Arafat, it didn’t really mean that he was actually any more civilized.
And Obama was not, as I’m sure you know, saying that Islam is not a religion–he was simply lying about Islam not condoning killing.
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Hi GI
I didn’ t suggest that Palestinians wearing suits was evidence that they are civilized, but only that it is evidence of the strength of our culture. Good grief, even Obama, Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton wear suits. Mind you, I have yet to see my Pope wearing one.
Anne Smith says
Leopards never change their spots
Sentinel says
The Arabic term is takfiri. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takfiri.
Terra Nova says
Leopards come very close to you and are laying there, waiting, they have already a plan to attack you and when you are in the most vulnerable position, they attack, like most animals of prey.
The real prophet Muhammed is disgusted and so am I and many with me.
Older Canadian says
I think this should be encouraged. Comic relief, for the interim, before they overwhelm us.
Jihadria Ocasio-Copenhagen says
It seems you missed another recent massive brawl, this one replete with fire:
https://voiceofeurope.com/2019/04/copenhagen-in-flames-after-right-wing-protesters-provocatively-throw-the-quran-on-the-ground
Copenhagen in flames after right-wing protesters provocatively throw the Quran on the ground –
Violent riots erupted in the Danish capital on Sunday [April 14, 2019] when the right-wing politician and Islam critic Rasmus Paludan, leader of the party Stram Kurs (Strict Course), held a demonstration in the district of Nørrebro, Denmark’s Radio reports.
An angry crowd of counter-protesters showed up and attacked Paludan’s demonstration, and when the police intervened, they were attacked as well.
“We had been expecting counter-protests, but not that it would lead to the type of unrest that we have seen today”, said Copenhagen police chief Jørgen Bergen Skov at a press conference in the evening, while the riots were still ongoing.
People threw, among other things, paving stones, bicycles and plastic chairs against the police, and footage from Nørrebro shows how cars and other property are ablaze.
The Police used tear gas and drew weapons, however, without firing any shots. On Monday morning, the police announced that 15 people had been arrested during Sunday’s riots, which also spread to other districts in Copenhagen.