I received this email from a French-speaking contact. The tweets at the link are in French, but the summary provided here is sufficient to give you an idea of what is being said. The fact that the Africans pray on site indicates that they are not just Africans, but Muslims, and their hostility to the French may be a result of the contempt that the “best of people” (Qur’an 3:110) often have for “the most vile of created beings,” i.e., unbelievers (Qur’an 98:6).
Does this mean that the Notre Dame fire was an arson jihad attack? Absolutely not. Once again, however, it raises the possibility that it could be, and the question of whether or not the French government has the will even to investigate a possibility that could be so politically explosive, or to tell the truth about what it finds if it shows up its policies in a negative light. Will there be such an investigation? Will the renovation workers at Notre Dame be looked into? Or would the political fallout be too great for the Macron government if something inconvenient was found?
Here is a link to a series of tweets by a French traditional stone carver who worked on different monuments’ sites including Notre-Dame cathedral. He tells of his experience of seeing many African workers hired “who hate us” and “pray on the site”, one attacking him and others physically, that he was fired but not the African attacker, his complaint at the police station where a female police officer started deafeningly screaming after him when he mentioned the attacker was African, that she wore a hand of fatma on a necklace, which is a North African symbol.
https://lesobservateurs.ch/2019/04/18/les-tweets-dun-tailleur-de-pierre-du-chantier-de-notre-dame/
“Les tweets d’un tailleur de pierre du chantier de Notre-Dame” (“The tweets of a stonemason at the Notre Dame site”), LesObservateurs.ch, April 18, 2019.
Krishna says
there is many possiblities that the destruction of notre dame would be linked to islamist inspired attacks
medforth says
The burning down of historic buildings and churches has a long tradition among the enemies of the Occident. For example in Gelsenkirchen, Germany+++
Yes, the haters of the Occident like to set fire to it. Unglorious destruction of cultural assets also in Gelsenkirchen,Germany in 1995. For example the Gothic vicarage of Schloss Lüttinghof (photo below). I could not believe it when I read in the newspaper about a fire exercise at the place where only one house stood, the old vicarage built in 1516. Thereupon I rode my bike to the Gelsenkirchen district of Hassel and sadly it was true. The historically valuable building was burned down in the context of a fire exercise!
Read more:
https://searchlight-germany.blogspot.com/2019/04/the-burning-down-of-historic-buildings.html
b.a. freeman says
stands to reason, medforth; the left can brook no opposition, so the way to remove it is not just with re-education camps and mass graves, but by obliterating both the family and our judeo-christian heritage, so as to root it out before it even starts.
so sad.
gravenimage says
Medforth, there is no indication that this was intentional.
Pants says
Why were the 12 Apostle statues beheaded before they were removed from the Cathedral? This was before the fire even took place.
Henry Mansfield says
As a child I used to love reading about history. Dinosaurs, knights in armor, America’s founding, cowboys and Indians, the Industrial Age…all of it.
Islam was woven into much of it, but the religion and what it’s adherents believe was glossed over. After 9-11-01, for a brief time, people were willing to take an unflinching look at Islam and use blunt language to describe it. Real history since the lifetime of the Muslim prophet has been one atrocity after another against non-Muslims.
The speed with which the French government decided that the fire at Notre Dame was NOT arson shows a tendency towards revisionist history, and I condemn any form of revisionist history.
medforth says
Cologne cathedral master builder does not rule out that it was an arson attack on Notre Dame+++
Assessment of a master builder of the Cologne Cathedral on the blaze in Paris:
“However, an old roof truss in a church with centuries-old wood does not burn so quickly either. The wood is of course very dry, but over time it also becomes protective. Wood is not easily flammable, it takes time. Many insulating materials burn much faster. But when wood burns, there is hardly anything to do… I am not saying that it could have been arson. But you have to assume that there was another source of ignition. Simply in such a way does not come about in the wooden roof truss such a fire.
Instead of an overhasty euphoria about reconstruction, now is the time for fire experts ! After every fire, the first question is the cause of the fire. Is this not the case with one of Europe’s most important cultural assets ?
Read more:
https://searchlight-germany.blogspot.com/2019/04/cologne-cathedral-master-builder-does.html
Terry Gain says
I am not saying that it could have been arson.
……….
Presumably he means ” I am not saying that it was arson”.
owensgate says
The latest BS I’ve read from the MSM is that the French now say it was a “Computer Glitch” that caused the fire. Seriously? How dumb do they think we are? What, in this Universe of stupidity, could this “computer” be controlling? No. It was one or more of the musselman “working” on the project, who had an idea occur to them, and when they are “safely” out of France, they will take ownership of it.
spiro says
yes its always a computer glitch that’s the problem That excuse is pathetic and over used
I am having a problem with the idea there were Muslims working on this church if this is true your right its stupidity on biblical level
lebel says
damn straight, the media along with the politicians are shipping the Muslim firestarters out of France as we speak. Meanwhile they are letting other Muslims in the start more fires in churches in order to hasten the takeover. Do not believe anything they say unless they confirm what you already think. Of course it would be weird for those in charge of the cover up to tell the truth but who cares about all thiat? Muslims did it and that’s it.
gravenimage says
Does lebel have a problem with Muslims abusing the Infidels they work with? Not so you’d notice.
Wellington says
You keep trying to deflect, lebel, often with pathetic attempts at humor, ordinarily accompanied by denigration of Jihad Watch, that your religion is the one major faith developed by mankind that simply stinks.
Islam, in its theological blueprint, is an enemy of freedom and equality under the law, lebel, and people like you can try to shake and shimmy and hide this truth but more and more folks are finding out about what Islam really intends with each passing year.
Just take death for apostasy, among Islam’s many wrongs. This alone, condoned by the Koran (Sura 4:89) and the hadiths (e.g., Bukhari 9.84.57) makes Islam execrable.
You know the greatest threat to Islam, lebel? The truth about it.
CRUSADER says
The Gift of Living Hell given to France….and to Western Civilization, as a near death experience ….
Bill Whittle’s Take on the “Accidental” Fire at Notre Dame – ‘Nox
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56tPjl9NsAI#action=share
Michael Copeland says
An electrical short-circuit is being alleged as the cause of the Notre Dame fire. However, the retired architect for the church emphasised that all electrical wiring was kept well away from the “Forest” of oak beams.
He also emphasised that old oak does not catch fire easily or quickly: sustained heat is required. When Hampton Court Palace caught fire the oak beams were found to be charred on the outside but otherwise unaffected and well capable of continued load-bearing.
Several questions arise.
Why was there electrical wiring in such a situation?
How does a short-circuit create a sustained heat spot for long enough to ignite old oak?
Does not a short-circuit cause a trip switch to go off, or a fuse to blow?
Keys says
Just the fact that authorities are saying it was caused by an electrical short without further explanation is suspicious.
Who put the wiring in that caused it; why -what was purpose of the wiring – was it not encased in metal conduit – what kind of wiring was it and was it not connected to a circuit breaker for the very purpose of short protection; when was it put in, by who, and exactly where was it in the church, and how did it cause the wood beams to ignite ??? Can the cause be replicated as a model of how it happened ?
The answers to those questions, and others, will generate more follow-up questions that require answers for confirmation of the “electrical short circuit theory”, at least for my acceptance of that explanation.
Kay says
It’s true. If it were an adequate explanation there would be explanatory diagrams.
Terry Gain says
My questions are:
1. Will the French conduct an honest investigation?
2. If arson is discovered as the cause, will that information be released to the public?
3. How long will the French remain asleep?
spiro says
1. no
2. no
3 until its to late
b.a. freeman says
doesn’t necessarily take a short circuit to start a fire, Michael. if a rag were to be soaked in solvent (turpentine, etc.), with the overturned open can of solvent near an electric heater (preferably downslope from the solvent can), it could both delay ignition and feed solvent to a fire that could start the wooden slats of the renovation scaffolding burning, and when those burned through, they would be *large* burning boards that could provide the sustained heat necessary to set large old *dry* roof beams on fire. i’m sure that any pious muslim would be willing to at least try that, and there are *certainly* plenty of soldiers of allah in the city of lights-going-out.
WPM says
The fire was declared an accident even as firefighters was still battling the flames and before any investigation in how it started could have took place. Logic, reason ,looking for truth are all western evils that should be banished because they hurt and slander Islamic feeling and the feeling of the libtards who have made them their personal pets. I mean with the white middle class in France protesting in yellow vests ,”hate speech ” on the internet in Europe facing more restrictions ,over a thousand attacks on Churches in France over the last year ,we know that with French election coming up we know the current leaders in France cannot handle any truth leaking out the original official story of the fire story could be wrong. Lets let burning buildings , “Lone wolf” terror acts , “work place violence”, not cloud our reasoning to think they are connected to a people who see it there god giving duty by their holy books to kill or enslave us? Some people did something ,why they did it should not be look at too carefully ,because it might hurt their feelings. Big brother says shut up, pay your taxes ,lose your culture , we must do this for the collected good of Europe. We will enslave you or kill you for your own good.
Renate says
The yellow vests are still protesting in the streets in France over Macron’s policies, so I doubt that he’d initiate an investigation and even if he does, I highly doubt that he’d tell the truth about the findings of the investigation if Islamic ideology was involved. I’ve read that on average, there are 2 attacks against churches in France per day, so, it’s no stretch of the imagination to suppose that this fire was an Islamic attack. Part of Macron’s strategy is to keep the people in the dark about what’s really happening to their country.
Kerry Wade says
It has got to be the height of stupidity to engage Muslims in the restoration of such a wonderful cathedral! And its restoration is so much more than an iconic place of worship, its about civilization, the clash of civilised values as against the barbarity of Islam.
Renate says
Yet if they hung a sign outside the Cathedral saying, “Muslims need not apply.” (for restoration jobs), they’d be called out for discriminating against a religious group or Islamophobes. So, there you have it. The Left ties our hands with political correctness and lets the Muslims go at us unfettered with fires, beheadings, vandalism, and you name it. Surely there must be an end to this madness.
MS says
The whole place was rewired a few years back & safety measures were to the highest degree.
Vids on YouTube of multiple different people climbing up to the roof at night & then going all over it in daylight. So easy for a mohammeden to climb up & plant an incendiary device to take down the crown jewel.
Why was security so lax on such a building?
Was reports of two different fires substantiated?
No Muzzies Here says
One thing is certain. IF the fire was set by Muslims, and I’m not saying that it was, then the French government would absolutely be in a state of panic and do everything, including lying, to prevent the public from knowing the truth.
Notre Dame is loved and appreciated by believers and non-believers. It is a work of art, and a beauty forever. The French people are in a state of shock over this fire.
The reaction to the hypothetical situation mentioned above would be immediate and definitive: the world would finally realize what it should have realized after 9/11. You know what that is, and I’m not going to say it here.
owensgate says
No problem, I’ll say it: Islam is at WAR with us, and we don’t have the common sense to fight back. And had FDR been in charge of France when Notre Dame was attacked, he would have rounded up all the musselman (trying to find the most derogatory word I can for “moslem”) and put them in “resettlement camps”.
Steve says
It is time for a cruise missile with an inert warhead to be sent to PM May of the UK, Macron of France, and Merkel of Germany to give then the hint to stop this madness unless they would like a “live” one.
Terry Gain says
It’s time for you to grow up.
Wellington says
Seconded.
gravenimage says
“Steve” here is full of crap. Agent provocateur.
Wellington says
Seconded.
Dan says
With all the ISIS jihad nut jobs fleeing the battlefields, warnings of thousand and thousand of them not only sneaking in as phony refugees, but already there as sleepers, over 800 churches vandalized in France alone last year – the second biggest church in France recently being fire bombed and Notre Dame being the top of the list, give me a break.
If Muslims were in the work crew, then there’s just no way I’m ever going to believe it wasn’t arson.
People don’t understand basic science anymore, or they’d know that all explosions are basically fires that create rapid expansion.
Somethings, like plastique, once triggered, expand so fast they don’t need a container.
Small amounts of gunpowder, in a cartridge for instance will cause an explosion to propel the bullet, but, in a pile just fizzles.
Gas fires largely just burn but, if they heat a sealed container, even WATER can cause an explosion.
My point is, all these ISIS guys are I.E.D. experts, and all that knowledge can be use to create improvised BURNING devices, I.B.D.’s., and all sorts of construction, even home cleaning products, can be combined to ignite a heat source.
Some stuff needs quite a bit of time to ignite, basically a time delayed fuse, just smoldering until creating enough heat to ignite something burnable.
Toss something like that in some deep nook or cranny, and nobody’ll ever find it.
Basically, it’s a perfect guerilla tactic for one of those “Lone Wolves” we keep hearing about.
mortimer says
A French stonemason at Notre Dame speaks of working with Muslims “who hate us” … yes, this hatred is called ‘AL WALAA WAL BARAA’. W-B is an ‘ESSENTIAL’ doctrine that Muslims must believe and practice or they will go to Islamic hell.
A Muslim who doesn’t ‘hate’ kafirs ‘for the sake of Allah’ is considered a kafir.
Ashley says
Some interesting comments following this clip. Has anyone here seen the image that this man is referring to?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYEXTaiPvDI
gravenimage says
Ashley, it is this thing again:
https://www.politifact.com/facebook-fact-checks/statements/2019/apr/16/facebook-posts/no-there-was-not-lone-man-dressed-muslim-garb-walk/
CRUSADER says
Firewall host Bill Whittle doesn’t mince words in this letter to the French people. The Notre Dame fire is a “tremendous gift to the French people,” if you are willing to receive it. (See above post)
….as a postscript, this video from the Paris fire department’s responders was recently published.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIaMC4Is2OM#action=share
Ashley says
Thank you, Graven.
I knew the video clips I had seen of this were bunk, but never saw this clearer clip indicating the yellow vest or identifying the individual as a firefighter.
Appreciate it!
Happy Easter to you and yours!
Ewanda says
Not going to get much reversal of the invasion from France. Remember that the French men consider themselves “lovers” not fighters. More hope could be placed in the hands of the women who have the most to lose if the country is lost. They should be given the strategy, the encouragement, and the tools to implement reversal. Actually that should happen over the entire globe.
No offense but I can’t see why men would dispel islam when it seems the perfect world that any male would want to live in, if the only thing that they live for is the primitive side of the brain. Why would any man give up those ideas that big “mo” came up with in his ideology? If push came to shove, why is a man’s world in a Christian-Western type civilization better than what islam has to offer and why is islam worth fighting against?
Would like help in understanding the difference in the concepts and not intended to insult anyone.
CogitoErgoSum says
Why is Islam worth fighting against? Because most people prefer freedom to tyranny.
Wellington says
Frankly, CES, I don’t believe most people do prefer freedom to tyranny. Now, tyranny beyond a certain degree will elicit rebellion often times so that a “standard tyrant” will take the place of a tyrant who is completely out of control, but this is not what I am addressing. What I am addressing is that most people across the earth—the Islamic world, most of the Asian world, much of Latin America, Russia, and increasingly many in the West where liberty was born, don’t give a damn about freedom. They want a modicum of security and will passively accept “strong-man rule.”
Only the West pioneered true freedom and it is dying even in the West. I see much trouble ahead precisely to the extent that freedom continues to be devalued, which is certainly something that has happened on college campuses across America where the Left is most in charge. This sea-change has already begun as well with the American Democratic Party. And as America goes, so goes any hope for freedom throughout the world.
I will recount here what I wrote before at JW and that was an encounter many years ago (about 15) with a Russian student that I taught. When I mentioned that America became great above all reasons because of freedom, the Russian student said to me that I had to understand that to Russians freedom means something very different than it does to Americans. Freedom to a Russian, he continued, means being able to buy as much vodka as you want and being left alone in your apartment to drink it. QED.
CogitoErgoSum says
Wellington, Islam would take away even that Russian man’s vodka and, yes, Islam would even take away that man’s ability to be left alone when the other Muslims see that he is not attending Friday prayers at the mosque and so then give him a good beating for it. But I do agree that people love to have someone higher up who will provide them with bread and circuses in the manner that the socialists promise (but never deliver) to the masses. Maybe the best we can hope for are philosopher kings who will kindly care for the ignorant who refuse to learn.
I wish you a happy Easter Sunday, good sir.
Ed Lee says
Wellington, you probably are already aware of this, but in 1759 Benjamin Franklin wrote, “They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety”.
gravenimage says
Ewanda, civilized men don’t want to abuse women and enslave people.
eduardo odraude says
What real man lives only for the primitive side of the brain? I also ask that question not to give offense, but to state my humble opinion. “Men” who live only for the primitive side of the brain are basically only animals. Men, I believe, to be what they really are, need individual freedom, and there is no individual freedom without freedom of thought and freedom of speech. There is also no fully human love without freedom. Real men in my humble opinion do not want to be slaves to any authoritarian worldview or totalitarian state. Some slaves will tell you their condition is excellent, the best anyone could desire. They will deny they are slaves! They are enslaved not just outwardly but even within their own minds! Hegel (despite his errors) noticed the truth that even being a master is itself enslaving.
There are some propagandists who will say Islam permits freedom, but if one keeps one’s eyes open to reality — notice, for example, the state of human rights in Muslim-majority nations — one sees that Islam, to the extent people in those nations follow it, crushes freedom.
eduardo odraude says
One only needs to go to the websites of various human rights organizations and look at their stats and data on human rights around the globe.
elee says
I concur and applaud Eduardo.
gravenimage says
+1
somehistory says
I think that some men appreciate women who can carry on an intelligent conversation with them. I think that many men prefer to have their wives dressed up when they go out to dinner or a show….islam doesn’t allow “shows”…I think men like to see other men appreciate the beauty and intelligence in their wives and would not wish to see disgust in the eyes of another man when looking at his wife.
I believe that some men want to “work with his hands what is good work” and see for himself just what he can accomplish. The farmer who plows and plants and works to produce a good crop has a great sense of accomplishment when he sees it in the field and when he brings in his harvest. Or a painter or other artist sees what he can do with his hands. Even a plumber or electrician can feel pride in a job well done.
I think that many men who have sons wish those sons to look up to them and respect them for who they are, not be forced to bow and scrape out of fear of what will happen if they don’t. And I read once, a very long time ago, that the best gift a man can give his son is to love and respect the boy’s mother.
None of that is available in islam. And there is so much more to the enjoyment of life here on this big blue ball than what islam would allow a person…man or woman.
gravenimage says
Fine post, Somehistory.
Wellington says
Because, Ewanda, you fool, the “Christian-Western type” male, contra the putrid excuse for a male which Islam has “constructed,” comprehends, let’s see here because it is a very long list, that 1) freedom is important, contra Islam; 2) equality under the law is important, contra Islam; 3) the female is equal to the male, contra Islam; 4) a Golden Rule for all is important, contra Islam; 5) romantic love is important, contra Islam; 6) women who don’t “cover themselves,” a la Islam, are deserving of rape, and thus again contra the most putrid excuse for a major faith in mankind’s history.
Enough reasons? You want more you fool? Just ask because I’ll provide them to you. Many more. Count on it.
Your turn, fool. By the way, your kind make me sick. I hate Islam but I also hate massive ignorance about Islam. In fact, apologies for Islam, whether by an ignorant dhimmi or a deceptive Muslim, are rank in the extreme and deleterious to liberty in the extreme. You are one of the two. No third option.
eduardo odraude says
To politicians, police, and media: when you make a practice of covering up Islamic involvement in many cases of jihad, you have various reasons, well-intentioned and otherwise, for doing so. Probably politicians’ and police forces’ main reason is to maintain public order and prevent lynch mobs. You do this to protect your own authority as much as to protect Muslims. You also do it to avoid charges of racism, and to keep from being fired or otherwise punished, and to avoid making more trouble than necessary for yourself: who wants to stand out as a target for future jihadist attackers? As for media, they do it for some of the same reasons as well as other reasons.
Problem with the cover-up strategy: people start to notice it, and therefore fewer and fewer will believe you even in cases where there happens to be no Islamic involvement. Your distrust of the population at large is creating a situation not that different from what happens in dictatorships where information is controlled by authorities: many feel disenfranchised, unrepresented, and that they have no normal, peaceful recourse for remedies. Rumors and lies start to abound in the absence of reliable information. As JFK said, “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.”
But recognition of the downside of cover-ups and censorship would only partly undermine some of the causes of cover-ups, while other causes will not be undermined at all, so the cover-ups will no doubt continue.
CogitoErgoSum says
I still haven’t found any explanation for this video of a figure on the roof of Notre Dame. It looks to me as if a man lights a couple of flares and drops them down a shaft (elevator shaft?). He is quite close to the place where the fire seems to have started. What do you see? Link is below:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Mh4sRYaz6I
somehistory says
Au petrified wood…I lived in a house that was so old, but so well-built, that the wood had petrified. Couldn’t even put a nail in the wall if I had wanted to. But it was nowhere near being 800 years old as the wood in this cathedral.
And a huge fallen tree in the yard had petrified. One might be able to burn it if they could get the fire hot enough, but trying to catch it on fire with a match or lighter…impossible. One would need an accelerant. Just as the guy in the video is saying.
This was arson…by someone. It didn’t just happen. Whether or not the government will ever admit it, is anyone’s guess. They may be forced to…or not.
CogitoErgoSum says
Thinking about this some more, I see that a floor has been placed atop the scaffolding that rises above the roof of the cathedral. What I had guessed might be an elevator shaft could be some sort of chute to a bin somewhere far below used for collecting refuse from the renovation work. Could the damage to Notre Dame Cathedral have been caused by an intentional dumpster fire?
I see many possibilities for the start of the fire. Why do they say so quickly the cause was electrical? Show us the evidence.
somehistory says
Oily rags…Linseed or other paint thinner…if piled together, will suddenly ignite with the accelerant already built in, so to speak. And if a match was added….
As your say, many possibilities. They just don’t want the finger to point at a moslim. If it was a “White college professor”…like the guy from NJ who was hoping to copy this fire in a cathedral there or in NYC…and could be proven non-moslim…they would be talking arson and “White national.”
they can’t show what they don’t have…it may take a few weeks to manufacture something that seems plausible…to convince the delusional.
Ashley says
Yes…the roof.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/20/europe/notre-dame-fire-investigation-intl/index.html
somehistory says
At least, it looks like someone is investigating. The two alarms were reported right away, but I don’t recall reading or hearing that the alarm panel indicated two different spots for the two alarms. Could be the first fire just wasn’t big enough when the alarm sounded and the guys couldn’t see it, but the second one was burning at a more combustible site.
Maybe they will get to the true “source.”
Ashley says
Just some random thoughts…
Notre Dame Cathedral’s interior is nearly 52,000 square feet. The artifacts are priceless and irreplaceable. I would *think* the security staff would exceed two guards during the night shift.
The cathedral has to be teeming with security cameras and monitor screens, including the roof which we now know can and has been scaled. So why did investigators rely on “amateur” footage to determine that the fire originated on the center of the roof? Does the cathedral not have state-of-the-art cameras? Why didn’t security know that punks had been scaling Notre Dame Cathedral to access the roof?
Notice all the excuses…short circuit. Computer glitch. Fire alarm sensors. Elevator issues. But to suspect arson is to labeled a conspiracy truther.
Not sure I’m buying the viral video of someone moving around the rooftop. First, way too grainy. Second, we don’t know who shot that video or when. This was no Abraham Zapruder. It looks like a hoax to me. I like YouTube for songs and instructions, but I don’t rely on the format for news of this nature. That said, I completely believe the videos “Martin” posted.
I feel like we’re being fed a bone as a means to distract. I’m curious about these security guards and the overall security measures the cathedral employed.
Okay…end of random thoughts!
Happy Easter to all!
eduardo odraude says
I hope that video is further evaluated. It appears to be dated from one hour before people realize the church is on fire. You see someone moving around on the roof, and he emits two flashes, though you cannot see what the flashes are.
eduardo odraude says
Here is a twitter feed where someone claims to have verified the timestamp on the video — that it really was from an hour before the fire.
https://twitter.com/ghoeberx/status/1118786263962869761
CRUSADER says
Quasimodo !
But, of course….oh the calumny!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdIP2xmDqx0
Rarely says
We may or may not ever find out the real cause of the fire — even if it is determined. The “truth”, whatever it may be, is paying the price of the cover-ups and lies of previous events. This is simply because people have become more skeptical than ever before because of that. The more we are burdened by this “political correctness” the less we are likely to believe official versions of anything and the more likely that conspiracy theories will find fertile ground.
The possibility that this was arson and the possibility that it was caused by muslim extremists gives credibility to the accusations of a “fired”, and likely disgruntled, ex-employee when, under normal circumstances, these accusations would be viewed with much skepticism.
From the coverage so far and recent history, I am inclined to believe it was likely arson and caused by muslim extremism but I sadly suspect that if it is proven to be otherwise many will still believe that to be the case.
Anonymous says
In the tweet, the French stone carver says that the African worker attacked him by surprise, punching him violently in the back, trying to break his spine.
jayell says
“Does this mean that the Notre Dame fire was an arson jihad attack? Absolutely not. Once again, however, it raises the possibility that it could be……”
Bearing in mind the facts that the ‘short circuit’ occurred despite (a) the high security in this kind of job, (b) the company involved being well-experienced and respected, (c) it being stated that the work hadn’t even started and they’d just erected the scaffolding, so what functioning equipment was up there?, (d) all the workers had left the site well before the blaze started, therefore no activity should have been taking place anyway, and (d) the cathedral had closed and should have been empty – this ‘accident’ shouldn’t have happened at all, if indeed it was an ‘accident’. However, add to that the fact that this just happened to occur by ‘unfortunate coincidence’ on the first day of Holy Week, and things definitely start looking very suspicious. Who might want to cause an ‘unfortunate accident’ at such an auspicious time in the Christian calendar? Someone with highly charged anti-Christian religious motivation? What sort of person might that be? Possibly one or more of he “many African workers hired “who hate us” and “pray on the site”? So this absolutely might well have been a an arson jihad attack. And are the French authorities going to track down these ‘African workers’, or are they afraid that this might open a rather nasty can of worms?
CRUSADER says
Secret visit of Notre-Dame roof and frame —- (English) – Toute L’Histoire
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkGJMExlByk
somehistory says
The stone carver’s experience is much like one would see in a movie…like the “invasion of the Body Snatchers.” (There are others) The bad guys commit a crime or are planning one, and the one who has knowledge goes to the police to report and finds that the police are co-conspirators with the bad guys and lock up or kill the one reporting.
moslims are in all parts of business…and in all parts of government. They will not allow another moslim to be ‘fingered’ or reported on by a non moslim.
An article in FPM, written by Milo, has a very interesting, and quite disturbing, paragraph. People are calling on Macron to make the rebuilding of Notre Dame ***inclusive***…so non Christians would have “space” there.
elee says
Cassandra……..the prophet without honour in his own country……the theme resonates because it keeps happening. Churchill lived long enough to be vindicated. Where’s our Churchill? “We shall never surrender”!
Savvy Kafir says
If you’re British, Anne Marie Waters is your new Churchill. And a pretty awesome one too. So support her & her For Britain party.
If you’re not British, support For Britain anyway. Become a member, donate $$$, and help to promote them on social media, etc.
CRUSADER says
Leftist takeover with Muslim mayhem, whilst few do much about it.
Certainly seems as though “Orwell’s 1984” and “Body Snatcher” have occurred.
elee says
I don’t think we’re going to speculate our way to a satisfactory resolution here…….not this week or this month anyway……and if we did who would act on it? How about turning up the heat for some investigation publication and prosecution regarding the 875 other recent desecrations……starting maybe with Saint-Sulpice? Oh and Hugh Fitzgerald’s series on the rampant explicit in-your-face nastiness of Muslims and Islam is both indisputable and well-taken. Proclaim THAT to the multitudes. Is that perchance why the safirs of another time stood before this cathedral and shouted “Deus vult”?
Savvy Kafir says
You hate the French? Get the hell out of France!
Better yet — if you’re a Muslim, we’ll just assume you hate the French; so get the hell out .
CRUSADER says
“The Story of God” on National Geographic:
Inside Notre Dame | The Story of God
(Note how there are many flags with Crescents and Stars hanging within the inside of Notre Dame….)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnZFfj6VNvY
CRUSADER says
Also note the dismissive conduct of the presenter, and the priest’s mild explanation of “something happened by some people” when speaking of why the Crown Of Thorns had to be spirited away to safekeeping from Constantinople….
gravenimage says
French stonemason at Notre Dame tells of working with Muslims “who hate us” and “pray on the site”
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Many here had wondered if there were supremacist Muslims on the work site at Notre Dame–and now we know. I cannot say I am surprised.
CRUSADER says
Notre Dame: Priceless artefacts saved from blaze – BBC News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1N2o1RjFJs
Peter WF says
The purpose of migration is to manipulate the labour market. More people in the market lowers the cost of employees.
UNCLE VLADDI says
Re: “NOTRE DAME STONEMASON TELLS OF WORKING WITH MUSLIMS “WHO HATE US” AND “PRAY ON THE SITE””
… and there it is, those diversity-hires I was speculating about, who were only hired to prove how non-racist Micron et al are!
Debi Brand says
“….many African workers hired ‘who hate us’ and ‘pray on the site’, one attacking him and others physically….”
Yeah … one could not but wonder of that profound, clear, possibility … thus, not a bit surprising, one stating, such was in fact so.
Thus, ‘ begs asking, could they have possibly, while “working” and praying there, took note of “wonderful possibilities”?
Jay says
The fire at Notre Dame should be a wake up call for France, as well as Germany, England, Sweden, Spain,
Italy, etc etc. After all the numerous church fires in France this past year, why haven’t they done anything ?
Poland and Hungary have seen the light and are protecting their sovereignty! Thank God the guard at St Patricks in NYC was doing his job. And the massacre in Shi Lanka today is heartbreaking to say the least. The unfettered invasion of Muslims across the globe into civilized countries has caused havoc and destruction and death everywhere! Terrorism on steroids! Wake up world – it’s almost too late!
There is never acclimation only invasion and destruction! And yes PM Churchill is not resting easy today!
The world needs another Churchill. The USA will not be able to save everyone again!
God bless and save the world from this insanity! God bless America! Study history or we are bound to repeat it.
Pres Trump is our only hope to protect and save America from the liberal insanity on steroids in our country today!! ????????????