All that said, the data does suggest that today’s backward Muslim countries tend to be more violent. But I submit that the reason is that they are backward, not that they are Muslim. When Christian Europe was a backward society in the Middle Ages conducting pogroms against the Jews, the Muslims in the Middle East were leaders in mathematics.
But why are “today’s backward Muslim countries” both “more violent” and more “backward”? Surely the violence of Muslim societies must be attributed to the Qur’an, with its exaltation of violence ‘’in the path of Allah,” and to the hadith, too, where Muhammad, the Perfect Man and Model of Conduct, is seen as a military leader and warlord, engaged in one military campaign after another, participating in the killing of 600-900 bound prisoners of the Banu Qurayza, and dividing the loot (property, women) seized from the tribes he vanquished. Violence is central to Islam. And why does Beaton not address the question as to why Muslim countries today are more “backward”? Could one reason for that backwardness be the hatred of bid’a, or innovation, because societies based on Islam are deemed to already be perfect? If Muslims start introducing innovations in ways of doing things, clerics fear, this might lead to a questioning of beliefs, of Islam itself, and that cannot be allowed.
When Beaton writes that “Christian Europe was a backward society in the Middle Ages conducting pogroms against the Jews,” he both exaggerates the anti-Jewish violence in Western Christendom (it was not all pogroms and blood libels) and ignores the attacks — pogroms — on Jews by Muslims. In Granada in 1066, the entire Jewish population of 4,000 was killed in two days, and there were repeated eruptions of violence against Jews in other Arab lands including Egypt, Syria, Yemen, and in Morocco under the Almohades.
Here’s the strongest point offered in response to my Facebook post. Peaceful Muslims are often reticent in condemning violence and extremists who engage in it. Many Muslim organizations did condemn 9/11 and other terrorism, and for that they deserve credit. But too often, they fall silent or issue an equivocal criticism.
If, as Beaton has claimed, far less than one-tenth of 1% of the world’s Muslims have been involved in terrorism, how is it that the “peaceful Muslims” who make up more than 99.9% of the Muslims are “reticent” — that is, afraid — to condemn “violence and extremists”? How can the many be so afraid of the very few? Beaton doesn’t explain.
How many Muslim organizations condemned 9/11? There were many in the West and elsewhere. There were also many examples of Muslims, especially in Gaza and the West Bank, handing out candy to passersby to celebrate the great achievement of Al-Qaeda. In other Arab countries, there was celebration in the air. Only in one Muslim country, Iran, were there noticeable expressions of sympathy from the public. And in the years since, with the dozens of major terror attacks in Europe and in America carried out by Muslims, many Muslim organizations have remained silent. This Beaton gets right: “too often, they fall silent or issue an equivocal criticism.”
For example, a newly elected Muslim congresswoman whom America rescued from violence and starvation in Somalia, and who seems to think that the problem in Washington is that too many legislators owe “allegiance” to the Jews, recently referenced 9/11. The words she chose were “some people did something.”
That offends me. What happened on 9/11 was not just that “some people did something.”
Okay, good, there are limits to what Beaton will stomach, and Ilhan Omar’s “some people did something” — a remark which will undoubtedly enter a future edition of Bartlett’s Quotations — is intolerable.
What happened was that psychopathic Muslims in a perversion of their religion murdered thousands of innocent men, women and children in the bloodiest attack on American soil since the Civil War.
How does Glenn K. Beaton know that the Muslims who since 9/11 have engaged in more than 35,000 terror attack are “psychopathic”? Or that what they did was a “perversion” of their religion? Would he be willing to look at the evidence, in the Qur’an and hadith, that such people are merely following the dictates of Islamic texts and are not “psychopathic”? Is he aware of how many of those terrorists have quoted Qur’anic verses to justify their attacks? He could not possibly have read the 109 verses in the Qur’an that command Muslims to wage violent Jihad, to “fight” and to “kill” the Unbelievers, to “smite at their necks,” to “strike terror in their hearts”? But had he read them, he would also have had to admit that the terrorists were not engaged in a “perversion of their religion,” but were dutifully fulfilling its texts and teachings.
What does Beaton make of this verse:
“I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them..” (8:12)
Or this one:
“We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve, because they joined others in worship with Allah, for which He had sent no authority; their abode will be the Fire and how evil is the abode of the Zalimun [the Disbelievers].” (3:151)
And can Beaton possibly be unaware that Muhammad himself, in a famous hadith that needs to be endlessly quoted,, claimed that “I have been made victorious through terror”?
mortimer says
Glenn K. Beaton asks:”In an age of terror, what is the responsibility of Islam?” Huh? ‘Age of Terror’?
Does he mean that 270 million jihad deaths in the last 1400 do NOT represent terrorism? Has he read ‘The History of Jihad’ by Robert Spencer? Or any other books about jihad?
Does Beaton know that 1 non-Muslim has been killed every 3 minutes since Mohammed began his attacks?
Does Beaton not consider 1 killed every 3 minutes to be TERRORISM? What would be then?
270,000,000 KILLED / 1400 years = 192,857 deaths per year since Mohammed began his attacks.
192,857 KILLED / 365 = 528 deaths per day since Mohammed began his attacks.
528 KILLED / 24 (hours) = 22 deaths per hour since Mohammed began his attacks.
22 KILLED / 60 minutes = 0.3669 persons killed by Islam every minute since Mohammed began his attacks.
1 KILLED / 3 minutes = one person was killed by Islam every 3 minutes since Mohammed began his attacks.
The errors in Beaton’s conclusions could have been avoided if he had COUNTED the deaths caused by jihad.
mortimer says
Our slogan: “It’s the IDEOLOGY, stupid.”
mortimer says
Response to Beaton: Less than one percent of the Muslim population are jihadists? So are US MILITARY LESS THAN 1% of the American population.
Does the world NOT fear the American military because they are so small? They sure do fear them.
STATISTICS: 1,281,900 US service members, with an additional 801,200 reservists … less than 1% of the US population, Mr. Beaton.
Malcolm (South Afric) says
Archbishop appeals for urgent help to prevent Christian genocide in northwest Nigeria
Archbishop Ndagoso said he believes the targeted attacks on Christian villages by Fulani extremists are not only religiously motivated but stem also from “injustice and impunity.”
He explained that the Nigerian constitution safeguards freedom and equality of religion. But he said in the northwest states of Nigeria where Muslims number close to 98 percent of the population, Sharia law permeates the legal system, and illiteracy rates are high, Christians are “a very tiny minority who unfortunately in the eyes of some do not count.”
Archbishop Ndagoso is therefore appealing to the Trump administration and the entire international community to help the Nigerian government to ensure security for its people.
“I have always said: the first duty of every government anywhere in the world is to protect and safeguard the lives and property of their citizenry. But I can tell you right now in our country that is not the case, especially in the northwest. Citizens are being killed like chickens,” the archbishop repeated.
The mainstream media has been largely silent about the intense persecution of Christians in northern Nigeria. Earlier this month, following a string of attacks, Nigerian born pro-life activist Obianuju Ekeocha tweeted out:
mortimer says
It’s shocking what is happening in Nigeria to Christians … 1,000 to 2,000 have been murdered by jihadists every year. I care.
Malcolm (South Afric) says
@ mortimer
Good on you.
Appreciate that.
Malcolm (South Afric) says
https://www.lifesitenews.com/catholic
Kepha says
The trouble is, a lot of us care, and are in no position to do anything but pray (and bug our not-so-honorable members of Congress).
mortimer says
Further statistics:
There are now MORE COMBAT-JIHADISTS than combat troops in the US military, Mr. Beaton.
– Less than 1% of 1.6 billion Muslims are actual combat ready jihadists (possibly 1/3 of 1%) = approx. 530,000 combat-ready jihadists worldwide.
– Less than 1% of US population are service members (and reserves) = about 2 M … HOWEVER, less than 1/4 of those in uniform are COMBAT SOLDIERS … 3/4 are ‘support’: i.e. admin, cooks, plumbers, storesmen, mechanics, etc. = about 300,000 actual combat-ready troops.
LET’S COMPARE : 530,000 jihadists worldwide versus about 300,000 (including reserves).
Do you feel secure in that knowledge, Mr. Beaton? Jihadis outnumber US combat troops.
Westman says
Mortimer, your calculator may be off a bit:
.01 [1%] X 1.6e9 [1,600,000,000] = 16,000,000. Divide that by 3 [one-third] = 5,333,333.
That’s more than 5 Million jihadists, about 17.7 times the size of the combat-ready US forces. Thank goodness for Islamic-induced incompetence that was so evident in Iraq.
TKF says
Fantasy Islam=Peaceful Real Islam= Not So F-ing Much.
Michael Copeland says
“And can Beaton possibly be unaware….?”
Yes. Definitely. Beaton shows himself unaware of great deal about Islam.
Ole Pederson says
Wrong! There never was a significant number of muslim mathematicians or scientists. What Europeans call “arabic” numbers was invented by Indian mathematicians.
In the mentioned era, there were Arab scientists and scholars but most of them were not muslim, they were Christians, Jews, pagans and others. Recommended reading: Dario Fernandez Morera, The Myth of the Andalusian Paradise.
elee says
Every Muslim is a soldier. The “civilian-military” distinction is a western innovation wholly foreign to Islam. That includes the 99.99% who don’t blow themselves us but also know or suspect and say nothing.
Michael Copeland says
“We are at war and I am a soldier”
London 7/7 bomber
onthebeatontrack says
Hugh, you have some decent points to make but I think you diminish them in your rage. It’s a bit, well, jihadist
In any event, I don’t think the Muslim terrorists are no problem. They are a serious problem and should be dealt with harshly. The Mossad has the right idea.
But none of that means that all 1.8 billion of them are terrorists who should be hated on. We’re better than that .
For perspective, you should be aware that I’m a very conservative fellow. You can find my stuff archived to prove my point at theAspenbeat.com
GKB
IanB says
All 1.8 billion Muslims are not ACTIVE terrorists but they ALL embrace a supremacist, totalitarian ideology with a 1400 year history of violence against non-Muslims. The only good Muslim is an apostate ex-Muslim.
warren nicodemus says
How do we get the Message out . If were all banned from Face/Book ?
https://youtu.be/uTpwuvn8Rxw
Hallo , Two Steps From Hell .
https://youtu.be/gG7cHdYWkfw
Day of Judgment , Muhammad Abdul Jabbar .
warren nicodemus says
https://youtu.be/PTjaIsHbmIw
Diary of a Badman exCrew & Muhammad Abdul Jabbar Speaks out
warren nicodemus says
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBu93ZCpj4s
FYI says
islamic prophecy is, like the unholy koran,completely fraudulent and a pack of lies.
This is very,very hard for the islamic Abdoolic brain to understand but you see…
The source of Prophecy is revealed in the Gospel{which allah falsely says he wrote k5:46-47}to come from a particular aspect of God{2 Peter 1 v 20-21}
Unfortunately,due to an EPIC fail in the koran,allah, the theologically challenged pagan Arab god of islam, reveals he doesn’t know where it comes from k4:171
“Cease! say not “three” it is better for you” says allah desperately in k 4:171:in other words
allah “the BEST of deceivers” k3:54 is telling muslims NOT to believe in God’s wisdom or the source of prophecy as one of the “three” is…God’s Spirit of Wisdom.
It’s actually quite funny.. and an enormous ERROR on the part of Al iLah but lost on muslims as
Al Ilah has not gifted the primitive Abdoolic brain with the ability to figure it out..
FYI says
That video above comes from a dawa foundation:muslims think if they try trolling using western names like Brian or warren we won’t know..LOL
See how easily the islamic apologists are exposed!
Against DAWA conmen…
1Know the Dissembling Tricks of the islamic trade
taqqiya: intentional lying to promote islam
kitman:lying by omission{e.g awkward koranic verses}
tawriya:Intentionally creating a false impression
muruna:blending -in {“Brian”…}
taysin and darura..
2.Sugar coating islam :its “The religion of PEACE”…honest!
3.islam respects Christians
{k9:30 the koran CURSES Christians for believing in Jesus}
4.Jesus is a prophet in islam
“Lo!I am the slave of allah.he hath given me the scripture and hath appointed me a prophet”
k19:30
This statement does not even come from an adult:It’s a TALKING BABY in a crib!1..see k19;24-30.
Besides, in the koran, issa is a muslim,not a Jew:so muslim claims that the koran refers to Jesus are LIES
5 The hijab is al about respecting women right?
In the koran k2:282 woman are considered HALF the worth of a man in Testimony as muhammed said they have a “deficiency of the woman’s mind”
{Sahih Bukhari 2658}
vlparker says
The Western focus on terrorism is exactly what islam wants. Terrorism is not going to do in the United States. It is stealth jihad, muslim infiltration of school boards, county boards, police departments, the FBI, Congress, etc. that is the problem. The terrorists aren’t the major threat. Everyday muslims getting into the bureaucracies is the problem.
David Hayden says
Same goal; different tactics.
Paul Wheeler says
Why this waste of electrons and time?
Glenn K. Beaton has nothing, zero, zip, nada to do with Islamic terrorism and zero responsibility for it.
Muslims have responsibility for Islamic terrorism.
No one else, except maybe the kuffar for their stubborn refusal to revert or pay the jizya with willing submission and to feel themselves humbled.