“If I did not harm to anyone, if I committed no harm in Syria for four years, what kind of threat can I be to Britain?”
That she committed no harm in Syria for four years remains unproven, and even if it is true, she was in the Islamic State, and she was a true believer; to whom could she do harm there other than the occasional Infidel sex slave? But in Britain, she could aid in jihad recruitment, in which she has engaged before, raise jihadi children, and more.
“I know the British public, they are scared, they don’t want to deal with us, but they must deal with us.”
Why must they? And the answer is likely this: because Theresa May and/or Jeremy Corbyn will force them to do so.
“I feel British, but Britain refuses to take us.”
If the caliphate had not collapsed, would Tooba Gondal “feel British” today?
“Tooba Gondal: Female British Isis recruiter asks to return to UK saying ‘we just want a normal life,’” by Lizzie Dearden, Independent, April 2, 2019 (thanks to Paul):
A British woman who joined Isis in Syria and recruited teenage girls has pleaded to return to the UK for a “normal life”.
Tooba Gondal’s appeal was a stark contrast to a previous Twitter post where she attacked “lies that muhajireen regret hijrah [joining Isis] and desperately want to return” to the west.
She had used social media to urge “sisters” to join her in the terrorist group’s strongholds, while celebrating terror attacks and condemning the “kuffar” [disbelievers].
Tweeting under the name Umm Muthanna al-Britannia, she shared a photo of herself brandishing an AK-47 with the caption “living the life”.
A 2015 tweet claimed she had obtained a suicide vest and continued: “I came here to die. I will not leave till I get what I came here for: shahadah [martyrdom].”
“Everyone around me is getting shahadah,” she later wrote. “When will it be my turn?”
But Gondal has claimed she is “not a threat” since being caught by Kurdish-led forces as she tried to flee Isis’s last territory towards the Turkish border….
In an interview with the Rojava Information Centre, she claimed it was a “relief” to leave Isis territory, where there had been food shortages and “constant bombing, sniping and bullets”….
The former Goldsmiths University student said she was born in France and is of Pakistani heritage, but grew up in London from the age of three.
Gondal said she has “permanent British residency” but a French passport, which she concealed by sewing it into her children’s nappies.
“I feel British, but Britain refuses to take us,” she added.
Gondal said she had heard news that the Home Office had revoked fellow Isis bride Shamima Begum’s British citizenship.
“I know the British public, they are scared, they don’t want to deal with us, but they must deal with us,” she added.
“We can’t stay in this camp for the rest of our lives, they must deal with us. We are not threat to their society, we just want a normal life again. If I did not harm to anyone, if I committed no harm in Syria for four years, what kind of threat can I be to Britain?”…
Emilie Green says
“‘we just want a normal life”
The Muslim idea of a normal life is at great variance with we consider a normal life.
gravenimage says
Spot on.
keith Oades says
She said that the British people have to “deal with her”. Do it the old way. She is a traitor to her country.
And the penalty for treason is??? Give her a fair trial, find her guilty and put her in front of a firing squad.
Simple really.
Lauren Hermann says
We need more people that think like you.
windrush48 says
“I know the British public, they are scared, they don’t want to deal with us, but they must deal with us.”
The ONLY thing the British must “deal with” is whether it is a bullet to the back of the head or a rope around the neck.
Minas says
Yes, deal with her the old way, never mind the firing squad though, have her drawn and quartered, it’s closer to Sharia which I’m sure she would appreciate more on her way to shahadah.
CogitoErgoSum says
I think she should stay in that camp until the person she was dies and then is born again. She needs to completely cast aside the person she was, fully and without regret. This would include leaving behind all that led her to where she is now.
unbeliever1 says
What led her where she is is her religion. Islam. Had she followed any other, she wouldn’t be ”where she is now.” To join ISIS, one has to be a Muslim.
Wellington says
“…what kind of threat can I be to Britain?”
Plenty, bitch, because you still believe in the totalitarian ideology which is Islam.
Every totalitarian ideology, examples being Islam, Marxism and Nazism, are a threat to liberty. Specifically here, the only question for free societies to answer (hopefully accurately—better damn well be rooted in accuracy) is how much tolerance of the only major faith, Islam, which itself is oozing in intolerance (gettin’ any of this, lebel?) can a free society tolerate?
Beyond a certain point, the tolerance of intolerance will surely lead to the ending of tolerance Forget the 56 majority-Muslim nations where no true freedom exists, only the degree of the dearth of freedom being germane, just look at contemporary Britain where the bending-over-backwards for Islam has led to great intolerance by way of the Orwellian distinction between free speech and hate speech. Ominous. Indicative too of how how Islam uses freedom to end freedom, especially if aided by clueless dhimmis.
Mohammedanism is corrosive. Right now it’s corroding Britain (and many other Western nations). Time to realize, as several Eastern European nations do, that Islam in your midst is a guarantor of the ending of such good things as freedom of speech, equality under the law, women’s rights, freedom of religion (let’s not forget Islam’s mandate for death for apostasy) and even your own cultural identity, which Islam cares not a whit about if you are a kuffaar.
No sympathy, bitch. None.
Westman says
In reading the full article she has children by jihadis. Assuming that human behavior is about half genetic, she intends to raise children already having 1/4+ jihad tendencies, and from her attitude, provide the environmental bias to make 3/4+ jihadis of them.
Halal Bacon says
there is that MUST word, sorry, no tickey, no laundry, do not pass go, do not collect $200 jizya
Ashley says
If in fact that is a photo of THE Tooba Gondal, I must say…quite attractive.
Appears she’s toting an assault rife…and sporting sensible sneakers as she has her back turned walking towards some sort of electrical infrastructure.
Sure, welcome her home. What could go wrong?
Billy Chickens says
I think you have it wrong. Tuba Gonads is facing us in the picture. Either that or her tennis shoes are on backwards because it’s the front of the shoes facing us. It’s just so darn hard to tell the front from the back in one of those get ups, but in the picture the shoes indicate she’s looking at the camera. Can’t really tell but I think she’s smiling.
Ashley says
Thanks, Billy! I didn’t look close enough at the shoes… Indeed, the “thing” behind the costume IS facing the camera.
Thanks again for the clarification.
Ashley says
You got that right, BH.
A couple more details here:
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/british-isis-matchmaker-who-lured-14222330
Deborah Johnson de Santamaria says
Yes, definitely smiling.
A_M_Swallow says
> She had used social media to urge “sisters” to join her in the terrorist group’s strongholds, while celebrating terror attacks and condemning the “kuffar” [disbelievers].
> Tweeting under the name Umm Muthanna al-Britannia, she shared a photo of herself brandishing an AK-47 with the caption “living the life”.
At the end of the Second Wold War Lord haw Haw was convicted of treason for making broadcast for Germany. These are the War on Terror equivalent.
> A 2015 tweet claimed she had obtained a suicide vest and continued: “I came here to die. I will not leave till I get what I came here for: shahadah [martyrdom].”
> “Everyone around me is getting shahadah,” she later wrote. “When will it be my turn?”
Suicide vests are weapons – a form of grenade. She has taken up arms against Britain (and France).
somehistory says
“I came here to die. I will not leave till I get what I came here for:”
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She wants to “die.” She went there to “die.” Now, she wants to force herself on a society that she would gladly have used her gun against…while she was feeling *tough.*…and wants to “live a normal life.”
What is “normal” for moslim terrorists is making terror and killing those who oppose them.
She didn’t say she wanted to put aside islam and live like a “normal non moslim” and ***ask*** nicely to be let back in. She is demanding it. But, she said she wouldn’t “leave until she got what (she) came here for.” Death. Guess she thinks it’s a terrorist’s prerogative to change her mind.
Ashley says
She’s the Leona Helmsey of ISIS.
I DEMAND TO COME HOME!!!!!!
Nerve.
Some nerve.
somehistory says
Ashley
+2
gravenimage says
Leona Helmsey may have been a b*tch, but I’d take her any day of the week…
Rufolino says
That Britain is even discussing returning UK citizenship to a self-declared traitoress is outrageous, and an ominous indication of Britain’s moral decay.
Lauren Hermann says
Unfortunately, Rufolino, I must agree with you. When is the West going to wake up????
jayell says
“I feel British, but Britain refuses to take us,” she added……”
The British identity is traditionally based on a Christian Anglo-Saxon/Celtic heritage. This Gondal woman is none of those, and therefore, with her somewhat incompatible background, beliefs and inclinations, she cannot possibly comply with a ‘British’ identity – and probably hasn’t even the first idea what it’s supposed to be despite living in the UK since age 3. Therefore how can she possibly ‘feel British’? What’s HER idea of ‘British’, because a ‘British’ person would certainly never get involved with the outrages of the Islamic State, let alone recruit for it. Strange that she doesn’t seem to realise that. In any case, she has a French passport and only rights of residency in the UK – until she effectively disqualified herself by getting mixed up with the Islamic State. It seems that she may be suffering from the same ignorant, bigoted delusions as others of her ilk in the UK, whose inherent myopic narcissistic ignorance blinds them to the reality of the UK to the extent that they somehow seriously believe that the place is 70% muslim when it is not yet even a tenth of that!! Well, the UK has dismissed Ms. Gondal for reasons that she should be able to understand, but such is her conceit that she seems unable to take that fact on board and seems to think that she has some right to challenge and overturn it. How? And such is her bloated self-image and obvious ignorance of the British public that she misreads ‘dislike’ as ‘fear’. No, Ms. Gondal, if we find your attitudes and beliefs so repulsive that we don’t want to deal with you, then we’re not going to deal with you. End of story.
gravenimage says
British identity is usually based on an embrace of civilized British values–clearly not the case here.
Rufolino says
Advise you to check what actually are “British values” in 2019 !
gravenimage says
I meant traditional civilized British values.
Max says
I did not harm to anyone says she. She only procreated future bitter terrorists, morally supported the many blood-thirsty Muslims that had sex with her and vigorously applauded every time another non-Muslim was decapitated. In her depraved mind, however, she did nothing wrong and she is ready to go back to the UK to collect welfare and teach her little demons what is expected of them.
gravenimage says
She also recruited others to the Islamic State.
Agostino Armo Pellegrini says
…we just want a normal life again. ~ISIS recruiter.
Well guess what? we non-muslims just want a “normal life,” too, one free of muslim terrorism and dangerous enclaves and rising immigrant crime and sexual assault, without our totalitarian government jailing or fining us for frank speaking tweets… but are our concerns ever addressed? Do we ever get special treatment or sympathy? oh, hell no, we’re “islamophobes” and racists for even talking about it. Did Tommy Robinson get a normal life when his own government hounded him with trumped up charges for acting patriotic and concerned about child rape? Does the average British citizen get a normal life when everything they love–their freedoms and security and their neighborhoods–get flushed down the toilet for islam? What about those kids at the Manchester concert who got blown to bits for muslim terror, was their life normal with islam? We all want a normal life. This ISIS recruiter presumably had a normal life too in Britain, but she left it for “joining ISIS,” and it’s reasonable for us to think that “join” equals “help.” She was armed as the mentioned photo showed and she admitted to “living the life.” She convicted herself with her own words and actions. It’s people like her and her islamic brethren that are destroying our normal life, so I don’t want to hear her squawking about wanting a “normal life.” The little fool should have thought of that before she joined ranks with terrorists who kill for her religion’s supremacist ideals. And if they do let her back she should get 20+ years in prison, if I had anything to say about it.
“I know the British public, they are scared, they don’t want to deal with us, but they must deal with us,” she added.
Well, the British government has dealt with you, by sensibly refusing to let you back in. This wasn’t a minor case of shoplifting for food, little darling, you joined forces with a warring enemy. The last thing Britain needs is one more rabid puppy for allah.
m. says
gtfo & stay out
gravenimage says
ISIS recruiter demands to return to UK: “The British are scared, they don’t want to deal with us, but they must”
………………….
Why must they?
Britain should deal with these thugs only to the extent of keeping them out of the UK.
Lydia Church says
Exactly. They don’t have to at all. But the only way in which they should is by keeping them out and deporting those who managed to sneak in!
WAYNEY says
Well one must say if one carries an AK47 then one intends to use it . It is a anti government firearm not a rifle used to harvest food . This female jihadi is a threat to all of the peoples that want a normal life .. SHE AINT NORMAL .. BYE BYE BABY GOODBYE AND GOOD RIDDANCE , HOPE YOUR TRIP UP ON AN IED DEVICE ON YOUR TRAVELS SMILE S
James says
It is too late to want to live a normal life and feel British. What about all the people that got killed by ISIS, did they all get to lead a normal life and feel British too? What sort of arrogance does it take to talk like that. She probably would starat supporting Muslim sharia based organizations and try to subvert the West. Is British sharia law? Is that her gift to Britain in return for her normal life?
somehistory says
James
True! She is arrogant. And her victims are not living normally if at all.
na says
Demand your Government you need your beloved/SAME one who you lost in ISIS ATTACKS OR ANY OTHER TERRORIST attack.And pledge in your mind at any way I will defeat all terrorism.
Killing others is number 1 sin, this is not politics. Even if it is a mistake of software that firm is responsible. Otherwise that is called software terrorism.
Dude says
Let’s face it: she was so eager to die, to do the yabbadabbado suicide lightspeed jump into paradise, we can only expect that this will continue to be her number one goal. Perhaps at a market near you.
We’re all so eager not to believe that people could ever be so damned stupid. But hillbilly inbred masses produce idiotic backwards societies who create and follow such nonsense childish ridiculous ideas. Let them kill each other like they have for centuries, but keep them far far far away from sane society.
na says
If you have Islamophobia and if you are scared just visit your chief of that country, find financial sources, try to block, smuggling, drugs, gun business …….. demand a huge amount as compensation and free treatment. No one should defend killing. Facebook, web sites hacked then demand a huge amount from Saudi, Pakistan. Repel Islamic terrorism . “Who is Muhammad and his wives does not matter/bother(consider silly). who lived 14000 years back and died”. Just fight for present Islamic terrorism. If you have good Muslim friend then behave them very well. But Terrorism should be eliminated. Because one life =10000000000000000000000 usd. Our current life is called tree of life. Do not expect a paradise after our present life. This is the 1 life.
Kay says
Yes, each life is precious and everyone gets only one life.
It’s imperative that our governments work to protect our lives and not bring murderous traitors into our communities.
Terra Nova says
We have to deal with you? Yes, and how !
In the Netherlands it happens exactly how I predicted the government would act. The Red Cross is waiting for the Government of the Netherlands, to ask the Red Cross ,to get all the dutch Jihadis and their families to come back to the Netherlands, like the Dutch Jihadi’s requested, because they are now in camps in Syria. As the Red Cross has to be neutral, the Dutch have to put in a request first, and then the Red Cross can start to evacuate them back to the Netherlands and then the Dutch taxpayers have to pay for the flight and transportation, housing again, (their whole keeping up). They are going to take back all the “Dutch Jihadis” and their whole families. Some weeks ago the Government kind of acted like they were not going to do it, and yesterday it was almost already dealt with, the Red Cross is only waiting for the request, and are ready to move immediately.
That’s the Netherlands for you. They say one thing, and decide secretly in the backroom the opposite
The arrogance of that woman ” They have to deal with us”
A_M_Swallow says
Women murderers and traitors were traditionally burn at the stake. We have plenty of wood.
gravenimage says
Back to the history books for you, I’m afraid.
A_M_Swallow says
Joan of Arc was burnt to death by the British in 1431. According to Wikipedia in Britain “The last woman to be convicted for “high treason”, and have her body burnt, in this case for the crime of coin forgery, was Catherine Murphy in 1789.[88]” After that women were hung.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_by_burning
UNCLE VLADDI says
Re: ISIS brides:
They all CHOSE to leave civilized lands to go forth and deliberately, intentionally (mens-rea) commit MURDER – and against fellow muslims, even!
As self-determined murderous criminals, there is no way any of them should now be let back into civilized lands which obey the rule of law – because rights (to citizenship) can only come with corollary, concomitant responsibilities – by accepting the duty to obey that very same, Golden Rule of Law which most simply defines all morality as Do Not Attack First – a law which, by their own chosen actions, they have obviously breached, reneged on, and abdicated their responsibility to uphold by joining the very most attack-first-prone gang of criminals on the planet today.
And, as for their jihadi “ISIS Brides” – it really doesn’t matter if they were, as devalued women, “merely” aiding, abetting, and enabling the main criminals, as willing accessories to their crimes, by offering them support services, either.
J D.S says
Whey should “recruiter” be allowed back to the UK, or any civilized place…no telling how many “killers were recruited under this recruiters watch..Get over it and be happy where you are.
William A Carr says
She claims to feel British but she was not British enough to resist the siren call of the caliphate, that was the ‘normal’ life she chose, to be an enemy of Britain and British people. I am not sure which it is naivete or arrogance
MJP says
England has its hands full already why let this traitor & Terrorist back in the Country she should be tried for treason & executed.
TKF says
Uh….NO! Stay in your Islamic turd pile with the rest of your ilk and your evil Muslim spawn.
Old Fat Bald Socially Inept Ron says
Shoot the traitor.
Maggie Farley says
Had all those years over there I’d say you where a bigger threat now then before you went Britain don’t want or need you back