New Zealand Rugby will almost certainly comply with alacrity. Historical knowledge of the Crusades is virtually non-existent among non-Muslims today; few people in New Zealand or anywhere else now remembers why sports teams were called “Crusaders” in the first place. No one remembers that the Crusades were tardy, small-scale defensive actions after 450 years of Islamic jihad that had conquered and Islamized what had been half of Christendom, as is documented meticulously in The History of Jihad From Muhammad to ISIS. And in New Zealand especially, any historical or present-day opposition to jihad is being demonized as leading to mosque shootings, and is being shut down accordingly. That the jihad will nevertheless advance there has not yet occurred to New Zealanders. By the time it does, it will likely be too late.
“Crusaders name, swords and horses have got to go, says Muslim advocate,” Stuff, April 4, 2019 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
A Muslim community advocate says the Crusaders name and its branding need to go, and quickly.
On Wednesday the Crusaders and New Zealand Rugby announced they would this season seek feedback on the Crusaders name, giving two options.
One was to remove the sword-wielding horsemen that has been part of pre-match entertainment, the second was to change the branding, as well as the Crusaders name that has been with the team since 1996.
Changing the imagery only would be an insult and defeat the purpose altogether, advocate Guled Mire told Radio New Zealand.
“By keeping the name in itself, which is actually quite distasteful, that’s not a viable option so I’m disappointed that’s being considered because for me that defeats the whole purpose.”
Mire said the name change debate should have happened a few weeks ago.
Since the March 15 mosque attacks in Christchurch there has been discussion around the Crusaders name.
The Crusades were a series of religious and political wars between Christians and Muslims fought in the 11th and 13th centuries.
Mire said the fact NZR and the Crusaders were talking about the name change was a step in the right direction, but it was important for all communities to be consulted, and not just the Muslim community.
“I think given the historical context of the name itself in terms of the Crusaders and the Crusades that had happened and what has happened in Christchurch, I think we need to revisit that and anything that really marginalises Muslim communities or any other religious or ethnic groups, it needs to be addressed,” he told Radio NZ..
Mire is a speaker, activist and writer who is passionate about advancing the social well-being of New Zealand’s ethnic and former refugee communities.
He was born in Somalia and resettled in New Zealand with his family when he was six years old. He now works in central government policy….
Jayme says
What people don’t get is its not cheap to change a team name and it can’t be done during the season leagues won’t allow it.
Terry Gain says
I demand that this Muslim change his supremacist and conquest ideology. Let’s see how that works.
gravenimage says
This is true, Jayme, but is not the main point. We should not have to make changes for Muslim threats.
Anne says
What a load of tripe. Don’t change anything ?
Brian hoff says
The league will allow it since the mass shooting and mass murder of muslim at two mosque by than far rightwing nutjob who support trump.
Adrian Thomas says
” far rightwing nutjob who support trump.”—–I thought he was reported as being a Deluded Left wing nutter ?
Thomas Moore says
Do you have ANY evidence whatsoever that this killer was a supporter of POTUS? Or are you simply insane and shitting out of your mouth?
gravenimage says
Actually, Thomas, he said he didn’t like Trump.
gravenimage says
Why is “Brian hoff”–really, “DefenderofIslam”–pretending that this Rugby team had anything to with the NZ shootings? What crap.
mortimer says
DOUBLE STANDARDS, ANYONE ??
‘Crusaders’ may be criticized. However, JIHAD may NEVER be criticized.
Islamic SUPREMACISM may never be mentioned or identified.
Steven RSA says
I wonder if Saracens Rugby Club should change the name too, after all it may be offensive to the peoples the Saracens fought centuries ago.
Rob says
No call to rename the UK Saracens Rugby Club (UK) after Manchester, Tower Markets, London Tube and Lee Rigby
gravenimage says
Good point.
Buraq says
Yes, change the name to ‘Mohamed’s Maulers’ or even ‘Mohamed’s Marauders’. Clown!
revereridesagain says
You beat me to it, Buraq! Let the Crusaders’ New Name That’s Even More In-Your-Face-To-Muslims Contest begin.
How about PigskinCamelKickers?
Steven RSA says
How about Cucksaders?
Mo Sewell says
Mo.
What a crock. If the name change hadn’t been mentioned no one would have cared. They’ve been our world beating champion team for 25yrs. Leave it be .
shoehorn says
How about the Mujhaddin? ..and they could change Christchurch to Mohammadmosque.
Steven RSA says
Surely “moderate” Muslims of New Zealand would not be offended by the word Crusaders. Surely it would only be the “extremists” who would be offended. I was given to understand that the western world does not bow to extremists; at least that is the message punted after every “extremist” act of terrorism.
rod says
the western world does not bow to extremists –
except in presidential elections
or in adopting sensible gun laws.
Kay E Weston says
Don’t like the name Leave and take your mates go with you.
Savvy Kafir says
Exactly!
Don’t let the door to New Zealand hit you on the butt on your way out, you whiny little Allah junkies. And don’t bother to write; we’ve heard it all.
Lydia Church says
Right!
But so typical. They immigrate because they need so much ‘help’ based on the repressive lands they are coming from, and then they want to make demands on the people in the country they are guests in! To turn them into just as bad of places where they came from! He’s just using that mosque attack platform green light to wage his jihad forward. What else? They see their opportunity. The door is open and the light is green for them.
mortimer says
Few in New Zealand will read this, but the Crusades were primarily defensive in nature. The purpose was to stop Islamic invasions into Europe, especially at Constantinople, to interdict piracy, extortion and enslavement of Christian on the way to the Holy Land. Winston Churchill enlisted the name ‘Crusade in Europe’ to emphasis the ideological reason for stopping Nazism and Mussolini’s fascism in the name of God.
The name of Crusaders is synonymous with those who defend the vulnerable and oppressed. Islam is the oppressor in this scenario. Muslims, you cannot claim that Islam is a liberator.
We can claim that Christianity liberates from backwardness, poverty, disease and ignorance. Where Christianity goes nations rise to greatness and stability. Where Islam goes, Islam’s fruits are that nations wallow in the 7th century, in fear, superstition, bigotry, disease, inbreeding, extortion, bribery, graft, and female repression. Should there be a ‘crusade’ against the fruits of Islam? Yes, but we will have to make it a crusade against Islamic ideology to be effective.
The old Crusaders of the past thought they could defeat Islam ideologically, but that you simply can’t, because Islam is a POLITICAL IDEOLOGY that must be defeated ideologically.
We must all become IDEOLOGICAL CRUSADERS in order to defeat Islam.
gravenimage says
+1
Joe says
It is a little off topic, but a crusade is any military action taken by a pope. There were many crusades that were not against Islam such as Albigensian Crusade. Of course, the most famous crusades were against Islam.
At the time of the crusades, religious and political affairs were intermixed. In the West, we came to the conclusion that they should be separated. In recent years, people want to again mix Church and State with sharia being the largest driver of that.
Carol the 1st says
Good positive post Mortimer, I saw none and was about to add these remarks from Robert Spencer in yesterday’s article re Cdn. MP who apologized for crusade meme:
“Apologizing is a sign of [his] acceptance of the idea that Westerners should be ashamed of the Crusades. The History of Jihad From Muhammad to ISIS prove from primary sources that the Crusades were not a gratuitous imperialistic venture, but a late and small-scale defensive reaction to 450 years of imperialist jihad aggression that had conquered and Islamized what had been half of the Christian world, and threatened the life of the Christian empire, the Byzantine empire. The West continues its cultural self-abnegation in the face of the chimera of “Islamophobia,” a propaganda neologism designed to make people ashamed of defending themselves and their homeland against a newly aggressive Islamic jihad.
There is a globally resurgent Islamic jihad today. Is no resistance whatsoever to be permitted?”
Spiro says
He works in central government policy
Let me get this straight a Muslim from
Somalia works in central government policy of an alleged Christian country
Wants to change the rugby team name change does it ever occurre to the Muslims the crusaders were trying to take back what they invaded
Of course NZ is so progressive and
Socialist they will probably. Give in
For PC diversity inclusiveness etc
Wayne Tilly says
I always ask myself one question and that is,since we are Christian nations that are totally inclusive of standing for everyone and obey the laws of the nation. Yet when we allow people to be in positions that dictate to us their beliefs on who we are and what we call our teams is totally irrelevant to anyone who’s day to day beliefs and life evolves around this Holy Book that dictates that he must obey the word as written in the Koran. I am sorry but there is no place in any government or state office, especially one that dictates policies.
FYI says
Will he be campaigning to have christchurch renamed as mosquetown?
I demand Guled Mire change his name to something more appropriate and infidel-sounding:Quag Mire.
I’d like people in NZ to know the TRUTH about..islam..
1. the koran: It CURSES Christians k9:30 for believing in Jesus Christ!
The “holy” koran teachings are in total violation of God’s Exodus 20 laws ,it is violently antisemitic and preaches a Doctrine of HATRED{al walaa wal baraa} towards ALL non-muslims k5:51 “Take not the Jews and christians for friends”
2. muhammed the “prophet” was a pedophile{Sahih muslim 3309},a mass-murderer of Jews{Abu Dawud 4390}
a self-confessed LIAR {al tabari 6:111} and a terrorist..
“I have been made victorious through TERROR”
Bukhari 4:52:220
muslims are required to follow his sunnah or example….
3.Al-Lah{“the god Lah”} or allah is in fact a pagan Arab god who PERMITS THE RAPE OF WOMEN
Sunan Abu Dawud vol 2 hadith 2155 and the use of women as sex slaves 4:24
Al-Lah is NOT the Judeo-christian Biblical God!
islamic values are 100% at odds with Western values be they religious{Judeo-Christian} or secular.
Al-Lah,the muslim god: is an antichristian,antisemitic,misogynistic,racist,murderous bigot god of hate and violence.
4 islam the “religion of peace”?The Greatest lie ever told!
“The muslim mission is to convert everybody to islam either by persuasion or by FORCE”
Ibn Khaldun{muqqadimah}
islam is antisocial{towards non muslims see k5:51},there is no “love thy neighbor”{Al Lah does not subscribe to the 2nd chief commandment}.
Usually with the aid of the Left the muslims strive to gain political power and when they have the numbers..you get Sharia Law,halal cruelty to animals etc:The RED-GREEN AXIS.
Given the current lefty politicians in NZ see how they are happy to pander to the muslim lobby..
Where are the feminists to protest FGM,the animal rights people to protest halal barbarism,the christian pastors{catholic,protestant etc} to speak out against islamification and counter the devious Dawa groups who try to TRICK people into converting to islam*,gay people{islam has appaling penalties which WILL be implemented if they get to the level of political power that permits the demonic sharia law..?
*Usually by claiming Jesus is a prophet of allah:but the Issa of the koran{a muslim} is NOT Jesus[a Jew}!
Besides,the Dawa statement about Jesus claiming to be allah’s slave .comes from a TALKING new born infant{koran 19 v 29-30}
I would be sorry to see NZ fall for al-Lah “The BEST of deceivers” k3:54 and islamic totalitarianism.
Terry Gain says
FYI
Thank you for your helpful summary of the lowlights of this barbaric ideology.
World@70 says
Don’t do it! Next he will demand to change the name of Christchurch because it’s offensive to Muslims.
Steve says
I would change it! I’d change it to The Jihadis and see what happens.
Beneath the Veil of Consciousness says
Next, he’ll demand they use the decapitated heads of kakirs as footballs. Sorry to see NZ pressured by a third world inbred simpleton.
Battle says
If Guled Mire, the Islam crusader hypocrite, the Moslem crusader hypocrite, and jihad christian-hater does not like the rugby team name “Crusaders”, too bad. The team owners have a free speech right to name their own team. Mire can pack up to ship his arse back to the s-hole Somalia he came from. And take all his like-minded hypocrite co-religionists with him.
Anjuli Pandavar says
This is as good a case of “you’ve brought it upon yourselves,” as ever there was. It was not enough to express your horror and revulsion at the Christchurch massacre and bring the full force of the law down on the murderer. No, the victims were Muslims. You felt compelled to indulge the utter baseness of Islam, and give free rein to the brazenness of Muslims to exploit to the full every opportunity that presents itself. I’m sorry to say, but you deserve this. You don’t yet see the problem? You still think you should be doing more? Don’t worry, the Muslims think so too.
Expect the name “Christchurch” itself to make it onto the “Islamophobia” or “insensitive to Muslims” list before long. It’s extremely offensive to Muslims, especially in light of the Christchurch massacre. It’s really rubbing those poor people’s faces in it. Easter is a couple of weeks away. Don’t bank on enjoying your usual “Islamophobic” hot-cross buns with your coffee. Oh no. That’d be offensive to Muslims, especially in light of the Christchurch massacre. To show true solidarity, why not scrap Easter before Muslims have to go to the trouble of demanding it. You know how offensive it is, especially in light of the Christchurch massacre. Grandma and grandpa, burn those cross-word puzzles! Have you no idea how insensitive you are? Muslims were massacred in Christchurch only a few weeks ago and already you’re othering them. Racists!!!!! Since you have sleepless night thinking of what more you can do to help Muslims feel welcome, and you’re already removing all crosses and crucifixes from your churches in light of the Christchurch massacre of Muslims, why not demolish all your churches and build mosques in their place? You know how deeply the Muslims are hurt. Surely, it’s the least you could do. Of course every child born with cross eyes has to have those offending eyes gouged out. And the Southern Cross on your flag, that’s got to go right now! Now! Farmers are no longer to cross-breed their animals. It’s insensitive in the light of the Christchurch massacre.
The following “Islamophobic” actions and phrases will have to go, in light of the Christchurch massacre. No more talking at cross purposes. No more crossing one’s fingers (learn to say “insha-Allah”). Cross my heart (and hope to die)? You will — to show solidarity, of course. Women to wear burqas and chadors, and men taubs, then there’d be no need to cross one’s legs — a grossly offensive act. No though must ever cross your mind again, ever. Don’t cross anyone’s palm with silver; transfer bitcoin. Never cross a Muslim’s path; get off the pavement and walk in the street. To cross swords would be to blatantly flaunt your Crusader heritage. Telephones will no longer have crossed lines — at last, an Islamic contribution to *improving* something! Cross-dressers — oh, God!
New Zealand society is at a crossroads — sorry, orthogonal intersection; I apologise unreservedly to the Muslim community for my extreme insensitivity, especially in the light of the Christchurch massacre; but orthogonal intersections all resemble that offensive symbol and must all be rebuilt into different arrangements so as not to hurt Muslims’ feelings as they go about their business of jihad, especially in light of the Christchurch massacre — and, if NZ were sincere about not being “Islamophobic”, it would make each of those redesigned orthogonal intersections a site of Friday stoning and beheading, right after the nationally-televised Jumu’ah service, before Muslims demand it.
You might possibly be able to expiate your guilt by ceding South Island to ISIS (Islamic South Island State) as their new caliphate. You know it’s the right thing to do in light of the Christchurch massacre, and rename that offensively-named city New Raqqa. No, that won’t cut it. What were you thinking when you named the place ‘Christchurch’ in the first place? It was a massacre waiting to happen. Ah, now I see why you’re bending over backwards, unable to do enough. And why you can’t even bring yourselves to consider that you’re about to get bled dry. I’m sorry. Ignore everything I said.
James V Howerton says
Someone needs to mail a copy to every NZ address.
LR says
+++Anjuli…Great rant…I agree – Mail a copy to the Rugby teams, the Governor, and all the Reps.
People must speak up against this ridiculous dhimmiitude.
kuriakose says
+1, Anjuli.
Dhimmitude seems nearing completion in NZ.
Uriah Sheep says
Did the tiny percent of Muslims in Ireland not try the same thing in Ireland about 2/3 years ago? It was to do about a Dublin half-marathon and the Crusaders Rugby Club were taking part in it like they have done for years. Thankfully the backlash was so severe that the Rugby Club board refused.
Also, did the tiny percent of Muslims not petition the Irish Government to remove the Christian cross from school emblems, badges etc? Again that was refused.
Though these things happened before the Globalist Varadker was around so perhaps the tiny percent (boosted by another 20,000) will try again.
gravenimage says
Grimly, though, they did drop their cross:
“Ireland: Crusaders Athletic Club drops cross from its crest to avoid offending Muslims”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/10/ireland-crusaders-athletic-club-drops-cross-from-its-crest-to-avoid-offending-muslims
somehistory says
somalie moslims are making a name for themselves all over the globe. Esp those who slither into government offices where they have a platform on which to make demands. And it stinks.
Each time they “demand” something and the “demand” is honored…hint: islam is only worthy of disdain, not “honor”…they gain more power which they then use to make bigger demands, which when “honored” leads to more power and demands.
The day is coming when they make the ultimate demand…. Change your religion to islam, or die. Change from worshipping your God to our fake ‘god’ or die. bend and bow to the beast, or die.
Revelation 13
Yajnesh Shetty says
What next? Change Christchurch to Allahabad?
Charles says
How hilarious. The Crusades are “offensive”? Really? It was simply an offensive action taken during a defensive war. The Christians had lost 2/3 of their territory to Jihad advance when they took initiative and invaded as a response to repeated attacks and invasions. Of course,Kufr defending themselves is as offensive as disbelief, or resisting the encroachment of Islam.
tim gallagher says
Great comment, Charles. Muslims display this total blindness all the time. They invaded many once Christian and reasonably civilised areas of the world and imposed their barbaric rubbish. The Crusades put a stop to it. To my mind, the Crusaders were heroes for stopping Islam’s takeover. But the Muslim supremacist attitude believes that the whole world should have just put up with backward, barbaric islam taking over. They have this total blindness and are offended when any non-Muslims fight back against barbaric Islam. But, the Muslims in New Zealand sense the weakness of authorities after the mosque attack and hence this move to have the Crusaders name dumped. It’s pathetic but I suspect that the people in charge will cave in and drop the name Crusaders. That will be seen by Muslims as yet another win. A small win in their supremacist drive to take over, which is what they always do everywhere they go, but, nevertheless, a win
jayell says
A 2% imported alien minority dictating to an established 98% majority what is or is not acceptable? This is the sort of scenario we would normally expect after a hostile invasion. Which is probably what it is.
Rugby is our National game says
For those muslims to effect this will be harder than swimming up a waterfall ..
Jucinda Adern with her expressions hijab and big eyes, milking the situation for every ounce of political juice she could get is one thing, but I doubt they will win this ….
The discussion will cause lots of anti muslim rhetoric and give people an opportunity to explain what the crusades were really about, and what the current muslim agenda is.
When 50 muslims were mowed down in Christchurch, so were 130 christians in Nigeria, followed by another 50 in Mali .. these sorts of discussions need to be out in the public area…
The Crusaders are part of our history, and believe me this discussion will be huge.
Talkback Radio will run hot
andrew mckendrick says
Just goes to show 2% is 2% too many.
gravenimage says
So true.
gary@erko says
Change the name to Dhimmidummies
sheliak says
Predictably, muslims in NZ waste no time exploiting the mosque shootings. This is the first of many increasingly substantive demands muslims will make of NZ infidels. The dhimmi ground has been perfectly prepared by the craven and cowardly NZ prime minister.
janimo says
The word DEMAND says it all.
Love does not demand.
Demand is an aggressive posture which is never satisfied. Demands only purpose is self satisfaction and ignores the wills and opinions of others.
While this man has every right to express his wishes, it should only be a wish. It should never be a demand. He is simply riding the wave of sympathy in light of the Christchurch murders.
Sadly I suspect that overly PC New Zealand will give in to this demand. If you do, there will be more demands.
Kiwis dont evet feel guilty about what happened in Christchurch. It was terrible and we should continue to be supportive of our brothers and sisters, but that does not mean giving in to their demands.
Were the Crusaders of the Holy Land victorious? Not really. The muslims were. So how can having a rugby team named Crusaders be insensitive to the muslims? I wonder if the name Christchurch is also offensive to the muslims. If so, why live there? There are many other places in the country.
Shamus says
Perhaps they could call themselves the Christchurch Catamites. “Cat” – swift, graceful and powerful animals such as lions, tigers and leopards. “Mite” – connotations of mighty. Together with the name of the city (until that gets changed), a pleasing alliteration. “Catamite” – a male who drops his trousers, bends over and spreads his cheeks, which is the recommended response when confronted by any Moslem demanding that we change our ways to avoid offending him. Yea, go the Catamites!
JMB says
The are even suggestions now that the very City of Christchurch should change it’s name. Christchurch being offensive to Muslims. But note, The city of Christchurch (Named after an Oxford college) and the province of Canterbury were both established by Church of England pioneers back in the 1840s. PC is going to destroy NZ, it will go the way of Canada.
LR says
@Shamus…Haha…
Save Europe says
Big question for this idiot – why did the Crusades happen?!
simpleton1 says
Islam does believe that Jesus is a prophet, but it can be an antithesis if he is represented by a cross .
As the theory is that all will see the errors of their ways, after battles with the “anti christ” armies and peoples, the rest then will have to make the decision to convert and become muslim.
So for some it would seem that there is a duty to follow Jesus and be guided in the “straight way” and do away with the cross.
It is much more than just a few battles in the Middle East.
The cross is haram, like pork.
Ren says
The Crusaders rugby team should keep their name and be proud of the Crusades.
gravenimage says
New Zealand: Muslim leader demands that Crusaders rugby team change its name
…………..
This team should tell this Mohammedan to go pound sand.
sidney penny says
“He now works in central government policy….”
Great job
LR says
I hope people will raise hell to keep the name. Remember what Carlin said about PC that is very true.
“Political correctness is fascism pretending to be manners”
Carol the 1st says
Why are the Maori so stupid? Lack of world news? Grudge against the British? Tourist pandering? Lamb sales? Urge to dance?
Mark Steyn says:
“Political Correctness” is training us to be as non-observant and unquestioning as the German public during WWII.
Rod says
The Muslim hating Christchurch murderer, who we know was an admirer and follower of sites like this one, saw himself as a Crusader, and admired Karadzic and Breivik, who both had the same delusion. The word today has ugly connotations. For you poor dupes to ignore them, or pretend that you have nothing in common with him is laughable.
I seem to remember that one of the Serbian war criminals, punished for the brutal murders of many women and children, actually adopted the name “Crusader”. Is he a role model for the member of the tiny self-loving Jihad Watchers club who has adopted the same name?
New Zealand and the rest of the world are appalled by what occurred in Christchurch, and they know why it occurred. The band of “Jihad Watchers” seem to be among a tiny minority who have missed the point.
gravenimage says
I see the repulsive “Rod” back, pretending that those who oppose violent Jihad are–somehow–the aggressors. Nice try, creep.
Kay says
Everyone who is civilized is horrified by the murders at Christchurch.
Almost no one knows *why* it happened though there are many theories.
Jihadwatch posters are also horrified by innumerable Mohammeden murders and countless Mohammeden abuses around the world.
And Christians are heartbroken at the persecution of Christians in many places worldwide, which most often are perpetrated by Mohammedens.
In fact, in recent and not so recent history, many places where Christians once thrived have been dominated by Mohammedens and become dangerous for Christians.
Extolling ignorance of the Crusades in history is not a virtue.
Rod says
You don’t know “why” it happened, Kay? Forgive me, but I’m very reluctant to believe you.
Carol the 1st says
Rod… what are your thoughts and feelings about the poor Rakhine villagers under ARSA attacks?
“This group is responsible for hundreds, if not thousands, of gruesome murders in Rakhine, including all-out executions of entire Hindu villages, with many unspeakable atrocities in their 2017 insurgency.”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2019/04/seven-days-in-rakhine-day-one-the-kyauk-phyu-no-go-
Brien Doyle says
This is an example of Hijrah and Dawah in practice!!!
It is a method of controlling by a religious ideology!!
mneidoff says
He willingly moved to a western nation and should adopt their customs. Say “I’m here now so you all got to change or I am marginalized” what muslim country would do that? nonsense
Fritz says
Just hand your bloody island over to islam and be done with it, NZ. Why not be HONEST about your complete lack of backbone and pandering to the murderous ideology of “pieces”.
Manfred says
Why do you even discuss this? have the muslims done anything good in your country?
Jesus says
if you give after for this crazy demand, it will start, this is the first test from the muslims, they have only one mindset take over your country
Carol the 1st says
A “muslim community advocate” like Mire has no brain and no shame. You don’t willingly anesthetize yourself and suggest you have a lack of self-regard by stabbing your own back with Islamic red herrings like “the big, bad Crusades”. You have Judeo-Christian values that leave the Ummah in the “mire”.
Onward Christian Soldiers (and with no apologies)!
E.Roe says
This is an overreaction to the tragedy in Christchurch … We could also suggest that the Hamilton-based Chiefs change their name as that provokes up the connotation of the ruthless savage killing of other tribes and explorers or whoever you may think of… It is silly to go backtracking to feel offense over conflicts that happened back beginning in 1096 with the Crusades ending in 1271AD. Then you can go back to 634-636 when the Jihadi Moslem armies invaded the Byzantine Roman Empire province of Israel what the Romans called Palestine.
Now you have to consider the number of Jihads that have occured since 9/11 2001 >>>> Nearly 35,000 yes 35,000 by the members of the “Religion of Peace” can you immagine the number of innocent lives that have been slain and rapings that is sanctioned in the qur’an against unbelievers
Anne Smith says
The Christchurch massacre will be milked for all it is worth and the naive population will happily go along with it because of the loving kindness of Christianity.
Elsa says
I wrote to all the New Zealand members of parliament, plus the NZ Crusaders rugby team and the NZ umbrella rugby association. Why? Outreach is essential. Here’s what I wrote:
Dear Member of Parliament,
I read the headline:
New Zealand: Muslim leader demands that Crusaders rugby team change its name
This is yet another reason to BE INFORMED about Islam and Islamic history.
Becoming informed is essential to be able to respond appropriately to inappropriate demands.
Several centuries before the Crusades, horrific brutal Islamic invasions turned much of the Middle East from Jewish, Christian, Zoroastrian, Buddhist, etc to Islamic, and also turned the north of Africa from Christian and Jewish to overwhelmingly Islamic. The Islamic invasion of Jerusalem led to desperate Christian leaders pleading, for several centuries, for help from Europe. The Crusades were a belated response to protect Christians.
In other words, Christians were being invaded and begged for help from fellow Christians. It took Christians from Europe several centuries to provide help. These were the Crusades.
Is the Islamic leader, Guled Mire, suggesting that non-Islamics have no right to defend ourselves against Islamic invasion?
I hold we all have the right to protect ourselves. Women are encouraged to take self-defence classes to be able to protect ourselves from attack. We’re encouraged to learn to protect ourselves, to educate ourselves to be able to protect ourselves.
We likewise need to learn to protect ourselves from inappropriate destructive demands like those of Guleg Mire.
The only way we can do this is by educating ourselves, by learning the truth (quite unsavory) of Islamic history.
Here is a link to a short introduction to Islam, including Islamic history:
http://westindanger.com/ed/intro-to-islam.html
First is a 9-minute video for children, that covers the 3 essential teachings of Islam, including al Walaa wal Baraa. The content of the video has been verified by Dr Bill Warner, probably the world’s foremost authority on Islam. Scholarly sources are provided for everything in the video.
That is followed by 3 videos, one only 5 minutes long, on Islamic history.
I recommend you not only watch, but if possible, air the videos on New Zealand television stations, and have discussions of the content on NZ stations, so New Zealanders become somewhat informed about Islamic history. Otherwise they are likely to be taken in by inappropriate demands.
Please do not hesitate to contact me for further information.
gravenimage says
Good for you, Elsa.
E. Maria says
These terrorists are very smooth in convincing the ‘Elite’ in most of the nations of the world. They have changed their tactics so instead of killing by the sword (although they still continue) they come across as snake oil salesmen and the Elites who refuse to believe or, have been indoctrinated, fall for these ‘Snakes.’
janwog says
Cruisades were a legimitate self-defense against Jihad.
confiteor says
Not long ago an Irish Sports Club and team, also called “The Crusaders”, changed their name, cowering to muslim “sensibilities”.
I haven’t followed up the story but let’s hope they changed it to “The Christians !”
because that would be even more offensive.
I’m beginning to wonder about the New Zealanders -they used to have a national
airline called “Kiwi Air” but they changed it when someone pointed out to them that a kiwi is a bird which cannot fly. When it’s pointed out to New Zealanders (who now have the blank look you get from mass hypnosis) that “Christianity” is a word offensive to muslims they will change the word wherever displayed in the country which will cost billions and New Zealand doesn’t have any money.
This is a country that got rid of its Air Force because they didn’t know what it was for.
They cannot fly but they can jump when they’re told to.
gravenimage says
The New Zealand Air Force does seem to still be around.
Ade Fegan says
muslims on a crusade again
TruthHonestReality says
This name will be changed, the question is when!?! The name shouldn’t have to be changed and mu slime s should go back to where ever country they came from. Stop trying to destroy our culture, what’s so hard for leftists to understand here?