When? Where? When has it ever borne fruit? Where and when, in the 1,400-year history of jihad, have Christian lands near Muslim lands ever been left alone by the Muslims? When, in that 1,400-year history, have Christians living in Muslim lands ever been granted equality of rights and been treated as full citizens? The Pope is guilt-tripping Christians into accepting mass Muslim migration into Europe while ignoring the history of Islam and denying the doctrines of Islam, and demanding that everyone believe that the situation will be different this time, despite the absolute lack of any reason to believe that it will be. Is he bent on destroying Europe as a home for free societies and obliterating the remnants of Christendom? That certainly will be the result if his exhortations are heeded.
“Leave them; they are blind guides. And if a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit.” (Matthew 15:14)
“Pope: coexistence with Muslims ‘is a beautiful flower that promises to bear fruit,'” Asia News, April 1, 2019 (thanks to Lookmann):
Vatican City (AsiaNews) – Coexistence between Christians and Muslims “is a beautiful flower that promises to bear fruit. We must not give up!” knowing that“ there will still be difficulties, many difficulties because unfortunately, there are intransigent groups ”.
Pope Francis confirmed his belief in dialogue on his return from Morocco, a country where “there is freedom of worship, there is religious freedom”, in speaking with journalists during the flight back to Rome. He also said that “now we see the flowers, the fruits will come later. But the flowers are promising ”.
Always, “when there is a fraternal dialogue, there is a relationship at various levels”. “For example: the joint appeal for Jerusalem was a step forward made not by an authority of Morocco and an authority of the Vatican, but by believing brothers who suffer seeing this” City of hope “that is not yet as universal as we all desire it to be: Jews, Muslims and Christians. We all want this. And this is why we have signed this desire: it is a desire, a call to religious fraternity that is symbolized in this city that is all ours. We are all citizens of Jerusalem, all believers ”.
“With Muslim brothers and sisters, we sealed this fraternity in the Abu Dhabi document, and here in Morocco, with this we have all seen a freedom, a welcome, all brothers with such great respect.” “We have seen that it is better to sow hope, to go hand in hand, always ahead”. In Morocco, he said, we have seen, “even in the dialogue we need bridges and we feel pain when we see people who prefer to build walls. Why do we feel pain? Because those who build walls will end up being prisoners of the walls they have built ”.
He later went on to say “but something else is concerning to me: the regression of us Christians when we take away freedom of conscience. Think of the Christian doctors and hospital institutions that do not have the right of conscientious objection, for example, for euthanasia. How? The Church has moved on and you Christian countries go backwards? Think of this because it is a truth. Today, we Christians have the danger that some governments will take away our freedom of conscience, which is the first step toward freedom of worship. The response isn’t easy. But, let’s not accuse Muslims. Let’s accuse ourselves also in these countries where this happens. It is a shame.”…
na says
Archaic smile
Westman says
A caption for the photo: “Bringing home the bacon, er, lamb”. “Mohammad, honeybun, I’m home!”
Pope Francis must think like political leaders who rule by statistics and polls – the sacrifice of a relative few lives is of no consequence to their aspirations. His silence about the destruction of the one, while leading the 90 and 9 to the slaughter, speaks volumes about his break, and those of his supporting Cardinals, with reality. He is successfully driving informed members out of the Catholic Church
Mockingjay says
Oh it will bear fruit allright – the bitter, poisonous fruit of the destruction of Europe and the 3rd World War.
And Rome will be, of this, all the prophecies are quite certain, the first city to fall.
So, pope Francis: we will remember you and your Words.
nicu says
so true , mockingjay ! I wonder if the Pope is still a Christian ! Why he doesn’t visit the persecuted Christians in Islamic countries ???
K WAGNER says
Hypocrit?
Carolyne says
The fruit it will bear is the same fruit which in Christian mythology a woman ate and destroyed her own domicile.
Rufolino says
Too true. This Pope will NEVER be forgotten . For all the wrong reasons.
tim gallagher says
I agree with all your comments. This Pope just seems to live in a fantasy world. He’s totally ignorant on the subject of Islam. Maybe he is mad. But it is dangerous for mad people, who live in a fantasy world, to have power because they can do so much damage and endanger so many people.
Terry Gain says
As everyone who is Islamo-aware knows, the Koran teaches that Christ never claimed to be God; that He faked his death on the cross; and that He will return to earth at end times to break the crosses and send Christians to hell and Muslims to their carnal heaven. Can you imagine how Muslims would react to claims that Muhammad is not a prophet and Islam is a fake religion?
Making nice with Muslim’s isn’t going to change Islamic doctrine. There isn’t one Christian church in KSA or Iran. Tens of thousands of Christians have been slaughtered by Muslims during this Pope’s reign of error and he hasn’t said boo. Islam is supremacist and has never coexisted with other religions except when Muslims were a minority and had no practical choice.
The Pope is not proposing coexistence but submission. He is a fool.
owensgate says
I read somewhere that the very existence of islam is the result of machinations of the Holy See for some ecumenical reason; the Catholics INVENTED islam. Seems the “pope” is reclaiming the Catholic churches “baby”. The Vatican went Satanic WAY before the beginnings of islam.
Ecosse1314 says
Perhaps you can provide a link for your assertions?
owensgate says
There are a couple of search results, and of course on the Internet “caveat emptor”, but considering the horrific history of the Catholic Church, it doesn’t seem unreasonable. https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vatican/esp_vatican33.htm
Ecosse1314 says
Really let us get this straight. The RC Church in the 7th Century helps form what we now call Islam.
They then spend 1200 years fighting it.
Does that make sense to you?
I suggest you have little knowledge of history or indeed reasonableness.
Keys says
owensgate – yes, caveat emptor, there is lots of bunk on the internet including the link you provided. I hope you do not want to believe this non-sense.
Sincerely, owensgate, citing this stuff as being possible does you no good, and it does not help the cause of getting the word out about the true nature of Islamic teachings.
Does this, from the link you provided, seem reasonable ?
“As a result of the vision of Fatima, Pope Pius XII ordered his Nazi army to crush Russia and the Orthodox religion, and make Russia Roman Catholic. A few years after he lost World War II, Pope Pius XII startled the world with his phony “DancingSun” vision to keep Fatima in the news. It was great religious show biz and the world swallowed it.”
Wellington says
You’ve referenced a site that starts with the title “Secret Vatican briefings” by a supposed disgruntled ex-Jesuit. This is the best you have?
With Ecosse 1314 here. In fact, you ought to be ashamed of yourself for the absurd contention that the Roman Catholic world invented Islam.
There are nuts everywhere. You come to mind.
gravenimage says
Fine post, Ecosse1314.
Terry Gain says
owensgate
Your comment is scurrilous anti-Catholic bs.
Richard says
Terry Gain: That’s twice you’ve posted magnificent comments on this post so far. Keep going!!
gravenimage says
Spot on, Terry.
Kesselman says
Popeye is an old poop. Every time he opens up his mouth only distorted history comes forth. Hasn’t he got any schooling in South America?
James Lincoln says
JW Quiz – Please pick the best answer:
Pope Francis is:
A. An ignorant fool.
B. A Muslim apologist.
C. A Marxist/Globalist.
D. A Christian in name only.
E. An undercover Muslim using Taqiyya.
F. All of the above.
Emma says
I get the impression the pope enjoys hearing himself speak. He must be surrounded by people who don’t speak but sit in silence because he is seen as the leader of the flock
Raja says
Popes in the past have been likened to the dreaded anti-Christ of the bible.(Anti-Christ the devil has always been around in this planet)
Stafford North’s book proves by his own methods and analysis how they(some popes) were as ugly as Nero, an infamous anti-Christ.
Prophecy referring to Christian apostasy has been condemned as demonic in the Bible and the Roman Catholic Church is in the forefront of that fact with regard to celibacy and eating meat on particular days.
Sadly we have had this “Christian” pope discharging nonsense for quite some time.
The head of Roman Catholic Church conveniently leaves all of Christ’s teaching but invariably pulls out some stupid idea with the preposterous mix of religion with politics.
He probably knows too well that he is the most hated personality of the Muslim World for NOT joining officially with Islam. The die-hard Muslims can’t wait to see that day…
Importing any refugee is not rosy and with Muslim refugees it is sure recipe for chaos and destruction-what JW calls suicidal…
gravenimage says
This is not really about Catholicism–other Popes have not bowed to Islam like this.
Olli Hekkala says
Pope: “how much you can integrate to give a dignified life to the people”
Well, if you can integrate Muslim community to European country, you have just created puncture wound on mother Europa. Islam should have stayed in Arabian peninsula. Unfortunately Islam have bloody borders, let’s keep them as short as possible.
Jesus: “but if you will enter into life, keep the commandments. .. You shall do no murder ..You shall not steal, You shall not bear false witness ..You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” – Matthew 19:17-19
mateenelass says
Perhaps the Pope was thinking of the amorphophallus titanum, otherwise known as the corpse flower, named for its odor similar to rotting human bodies — how appropriate for anything that Islam touches….
gravenimage says
Yes–or perhaps a Venus Flytrap or other carnivorous plant…
Kessler says
This article reads like a monty python sketch with added absurdity and stripped out humour.
How can anyone nod approvingly to this and not feel sick inside?
Nowhere and at no point in the muslim world do/did muslims coexist on equal terms with Christians, for the simple reason that Islam promotes superiority over non-muslims. In Christian majority countries like the UK, people are bending over backwards to accommodate muslim sensitivities, and yet, the single biggest threat to our society remains jihad terror and creeping sharia (although the latter is not seen as a threat by most – yet).
This pope is an absolute disaster – whenever he speaks, it seems increasingly like a case of senility.
Kessler says
furthermore – only 2 things concern him. Trump’s wall and the “regression of Christians”.
No words about the regression in muslim countries which is robbing people of the right to free speech, and religious/gender/sexual equality. No mention of the intolerance and hate which is driving Christianity to extinction in the Middle East. Be gone you utter waste of space
Demsci says
Good reciprocal coëxistence of Christians with followers of (all the) other faiths; can we make a list?
A list about countries where Christians have the majority or are a major religion.
But also about countries where other faiths dominate and Christians are only a minority.
Christians with Jews, surprisingly good, warm even. Much better than in the past! 2-way-Street.
Christians with Atheists in general; OK, 2-way-Street.
Christians with Buddhists, OK. 2-way-Street.
Christians with Zoroastrians, Bahai, Mormons, Jehova’s witnesses et al; OK.
Christians with Hindus, a little problematic, In India. Admittedly.
Christians with Communists downright Bad. One way Street; communists the bad Guys.
But It seems to me good coexistence and good relations with the Muslims is the toughest to achieve, especially In countries where Islam dominates. Very one way street. Christians NOT the bad Guys.
And what if we make a list with whom Muslims have a good reciprocal coexistence?
In countries where Islam dominates: With none of the above mentioned other faiths!
So the Pope has a lot to appreciate and celebrate but leave it to him to celebrate good Coex. With the last big faith with whom Christians can achieve that!
Renate says
After watching the video below, I think the Pope’s endearment to Islam is due to the Catholic church’s entrepreneurial spirit and desire to hang onto its adherents. Apparently, for some people, religion is big business.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYkMgWWvMpU&list=PLgS31mpImMjHGY0sGiVA9qS6SoSGCCVA9&index=3&t=0s
Renate says
Well! Sorry! I don’t know what happened to that link, but if you go to YouTube, you can watch it on the VisualPolitik EN channel. The title is Why did POPE FRANCIS visit ABU DHABI? – VisualPolitik EN
gravenimage says
How does pandering to Islam help the church keep its adherents?
Terry Gain says
The Catholic Church’s embrace of the evil ideology of Islam is driving the faithful away.
Renate says
In that video, I got the impression that since the Pope is advocating for Islam, Islamic nations are favouring the Catholic Church by allowing them to build churches in Islamic countries to maintain a hold on Roman Catholic foreign workers in those countries. It works for Islam because it’s giving the foreign workers something from their own cultures while they’re working in Islamic countries and it works for the Catholic Church because they get to maintain their adherents.
CogitoErgoSum says
I’m not sure why Catholics in Muslim countries would want to remain in their religion since the Pope keeps telling them how bad they are and that Islam is just as good anyway. If Francis had a son:
Son: Hey, dad. Look at the size of the wart on that man’s nose!
Francis: Hush, boy. Haven’t I taught you better than that? Your ears are every bit as ugly as that poor man’s nose anyway. I swear, I am ashamed to take you out in public. Now keep your mouth shut and be prepared not to go without supper tonight. I can’t believe I still tell people you are my son.
CogitoErgoSum says
See how stupid I am. I couldn’t even get right that sentence about the boy going without his supper. I feel so humiliated.
CogitoErgoSum says
Anyway, I like a happy endings to stories so …. another man happens by and overhears what has transpired between Francis and his son and says, “Wait, let’s go over and take a closer look at that man’s nose. That wart may very well be cancerous. Let’s see what we can do about getting him to see a doctor for a check-up. It’s a good thing you did pointing that out, young man. Now, let’s invite the poor man to come over and share with us some of these snack cakes I just bought while we find a way to talk him into seeing a doctor.
CogitoErgoSum says
But, like Hollywood, I can’t resist making a sequel to my story and driving it completely into the ground until everyone is sick of it so …. when they go and talk to the poor man with the ugly wart on his nose he gets completely offended, goes berserk and takes out a knife and stabs both Francis and the friendly man and cuts off the little boy’s too big ears and mutilates the boy’s nose, telling the boy that everybody should have a nose so beautiful.
Then there is an earthquake which opens up a huge crevasse that swallows up everybody and afterwards fills in with water creating a huge lake by which beautiful flowers grow and there is peace on Earth from that day forward …. until the sun goes supernova and expands in size to beyond the orbit of Mars …. and it’s like nothing was ever here. The End.
I like closure as much as I like happy endings. Maybe my script could use a re-write though.
Renate says
CogitoErgoSum, Hollywood awaits!
CogitoErgoSum says
Thanks, but I think the ending is not quite happy enough. I think if I give the friendly man some super powers that make him able to stop the knife attack on Francis and the boy the story would be better and could have almost endless sequels. Eventually this man would be able to show the people of the Earth how to travel faster than light to other dimensions before the sun explodes. It could be awesome. But maybe I am just April fooling myself.
Naram-Sin says
It’s already bearing the fruit of murder, rape, persecution, war, hate, intolerance, etc. Thanks Pope Francis.
gravenimage says
+1
FYI says
A beautiful flower eh?
islam’s great respect for christianity represented symbolically as a visual metaphor?
A Venus Flytrap.
Remember that..
1.the koran CURSES Christians for believing in Jesus k9:30
2.the koran CURSES Jews k2:65{..isn’t Jesus a Jew?}
3.allah’s denial of Jesus k4:157 and refusal to believe in God’s Holy Spirit{!!}
due to his difficulty with understanding theology k4:171, means allah “the BEST of deceivers k 3:54 cannot possibly be the same as the Christian God.
4 koran 5 v51 “take not the Jews and Christians for friends” is the OPPOSITE to God’s 2nd chief commandment{allah missed the 2 chief commandments didn’t he?.. and his koran teaches that it is OK to violate the Exodus 20 Laws..there is no “Love thy Neighbor” in islam so any talk about being brothers with muslims is contradicted by allah’s “perfect” koran..}
5 allah’s Greatest enemy{Sahih muslim vol 5 hadith #5611}is a man called..MALIK AL AMLAK
{“King of kings”:only Jesus Christ has that title Revs 19:16.Of course muslims deny this…}
Bergoglio,like all Jesuits, would know this to be the case that allah is NOT the Biblical God:so what he is doing is SUBVERTING Christianity by equating allah with God.
Bergoglio,Fraudulent Frankie is a complete fake.
{As many Catholics surely know..Fatima 1917,st Francis of Assisi’s prophecy of a false pope..};only the truly blind refuse to see what he is doing.
That’s CHRISLAM,Bergoglio’s baby,the basis of the NWO religion..
{I hope that little lamb was OK…was his name “Victim” or “Silence of the..”I wonder?given all the stories coming from Rome these days,Urbi et Orgi…the game of musical chairs with all those Cardinals…}
FYI says
This is a difficult time for catholics because Rome and Smiley Jorge are clearly betraying Christians and undermining Catholicism.Much of what constituted catholic beliefs and traditions disappeared after Vatican 2:we see the results today of what Pope Paul VI said when he startled the world by saying “the smoke of satan” had entered the Church.He was talking about the type of clergymen like Bergoglio,Pell,McCarrick..
If I was God for the day,it wouldn’t be world peace I’d bring..I’d go to Rome and have Bergolio swinging form his heretical Jesuitical bal….
…most of my family are catholic and they say worse.
To hell with the vatican and Fraudulent Frankie the False judas pope!
Harold says
As a Catholic, it is so sad to see such a fool in Peter’s chair. He clearly takes sides with the Leftists that are responsible for taking away religious freedom in the West. He says, “We Christians” are taking away freedom of conscience. Faithful Catholics are asking you to excommunicate the pro-abortion politicians who in many cases are working to take away freedom of conscience, but the Pope is more interested in his utopian “social economy.”
CogitoErgoSum says
It’s amazing how this Pope can always end up reminding Christians of how bad they are. He’s an expert at taking the teachings of Christ and turning them against the faithful to humiliate them. I hope he was able to teach the Muslim imams in Morocco just how hypocritical and self-centered Christians are and how they concentrate on the mote in their own eye while refusing to help the other guy get the big beam out his. I think that’s what Jesus was talking about, wasn’t it? Or do I have that backwards? Oh, it doesn’t really matter as long as nobody can see anything anyway. Let’s all curse the darkness.
lebel says
“When, in that 1,400-year history, have Christians living in Muslim lands ever been granted equality of rights and been treated as full citizens?”
To be fair, such concepts made little sense anywhere in the world before the 20th century. There are interesting examples in the 20th century such as in Senegal where a Christian was President. Of course in the West we have had only one Muslim President, the jihadist known as Hussein Obama whose goal it was to implement Shariah law in the US (and indeed the world)
CogitoErgoSum says
Yeah, who came up with the idea that we should treated everybody the same anyway?
Demsci says
Ok, lebel, then you say: only in the 20th century did Muslims have equal rights in the Christian countries.
So before that in those 1400 years that Islam exists, neither Muslims nor Christians ever gave equal rights to the adherents of the other religions in their own respective countries.
Nor did the countries of any other religion give equal rights to the adherents of another religion before the 20th century,
Therefore compare the countries with dominating religions, esp. The Christian and Muslim countries,
giving freedom of religion to adherents of other religions,
ONLY in the last 100 years or so, and not in the full 1400 years of the existence of Islam.
But a Christian president in Senegal does not constitute proof that the Muslim country Senegal gave equal rights to its Christian citizens.
But ever since at least WWII I daresay that Muslim immigrants did get equal rights in Western democratic countries. But you will have a very hard time showing completely reciprocal conduct by the Muslim countries after 1945.
Your sarcasm about a “Muslim president” notwithstanding. That sarcasm is about a president and it is about what the Western democratic countries allowed. But that is already known to be fully equal rights proof. This sarcastic response does not touch upon the lack of reciprocity of Muslim countries, giving rights to adherents of other religions.
and in the West the rights of Muslims include freedom of speech, which in Islamic countries the adherents of other religions do not have. Not with all their censorship and onesided Islamic propaganda and laws.
lebel says
Demsci, I am not saying that Christians in the 20th century have it better in Islamic countries than Muslims have it in Western countries. Overall the balance is tilted in favor of the West but that does not mean that the jihadwatch caricature is true.
RS’s question makes no sense since for much of the last 1400 hundred years the very concept of full citizenship would make no sense (for example, the USA only defined citizenship in 1868 as including “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof.”
A final point, just because something has not happened in the past does not mean that it can’t happen in the future.
Wellington says
Whitewashing Islam again, lebel? Here’s a thought for you: When Christians did wrong in the name of their creed, they were violating the tenets of their faith, contra Muslims big time. As an example, there are 109 verses in the Koran calling upon Mohammedans to wage war upon non-believers “until all the world is with Allah.” {Sura 8:39} By contrast, there are 0 verses in the New Testament calling upon Christians to wage war until all the world is Christian.
Doesn’t this statistical difference between the Koran and the NT make you pause, lebel? Yes, address this, lebel (but you won’t, deceiver that you are, just as you won’t address the over 34,000 documented Islamic terrorist attacks worldwide just since 9/11 versus close to none at all committed by followers of any other major faith since that very dark day in American history, courtesy COMPLETELY because Islam, damn it, still exists).
As for your deceitful reference to the 14th Amendment, you seek again to engage in moral equivalency. Won’t do, lebel. Won’t do at all. Here’s why: Unlike the Islamic world, Western Civilization has shown a capacity to evolve, the 14th Amendment to the American Constitution being an example. Another is that the West was the first civilization to comprehend that slavery was wrong, make major efforts to end it AND, as well, apologize for its role in it. When did the Islamic world do anything like this? Hell, slavery still goes on in the Islamic world and is defended by major Islamic clerics across the world to this very day.
You can very possibly fool uninformed dhimmis, lebel, but here at JW you have more than met your match. Doubt me? Well, shatter us informed kuffaars and tell us how the Islamic world has led the way in anything enlightened over the past half millennium or so and why Islam is really no worse than any other religion respecting, let’s see here, liberty, equality under the law, no death for apostasy, women’s rights, the authorization of force to enforce religious dictates, fine beer, fine music, great pictorial art, a true Golden Rule for all—yes, it is a very long list, lebel, and it is sickening to see you time and time again try to draw a rough moral equivalency between the Western world and the Islamic world.
Your turn, lebel, but know full well that while I think the Western world is full of faults, the Islamic world goes way beyond this because, like Nazism and Marxism, it is born out of malevolence and fraud and not just simply error and ignorance. Oh yeah, your turn. Give it a shot.
Wellington says
The Jihad Watch assessment of the Islamic world, which you characterize as a “caricature,” is as true as the assertion of truth can be, lebel. Over 34,000 documented Islamic terrorist attacks worldwide done in the name of Mo’s decrepit creed since 9/11, versus almost no terrorist attacks over the last 18 years by followers of any other major religion in the name of their religion, serves as only a very small, partial testimony why Islam is not just another religion and is a menace to mankind as no other major faith is.
As for your deceitfully invoking the 14th Amendment to the American Constitution as a way of exculpating Islam, this is woeful in the extreme. Here’s why: Western Civilization was exploring the parameters of liberty as far back as ancient Greece, with fits and starts to be sure, but exploring it nonetheless. When has the Islamic world ever been on the side of pioneering freedom to this very day? When has the Islamic world ever stood up for real liberty and real equality under the law?
The West has had many faults and still does, but it has exhibited an amazing capacity to fault itself and try to make a better world. When has the Islamic world, replete with a myriad of errors as it has, ever blamed itself or made a real effort to make for a better world?
gravenimage says
Fine points from Wellington.
gravenimage says
Mistreating non-believers has never been codified in any faith as it is in Islam, no matter what lebel pretends.
alex reid says
F*ckin’ Idiot!!
Ric says
Francis is a delusional man who, in the end, will lead Roman Catholicism to ruin. A man whose hubris has no bounds, an arrogance that will embolden the enemy of Western Civilization, Islam.
Tom W Harris says
Hands off that sheep, Francie!
somehistory says
Rotten trees produce rotten fruit. Oh how rotten is the fruit from the hybrid tree of this pope who pretends to be Christian, who pretends to be a shepherd of Christ’s flock, and the evil stench from satan known as islam! Rotten to the core.
And…he and his rotten hybrid tree have sights set on Jerusalem. The City of Jerusalem belongs to Israel. Jerusalem is important to both Jews and Christians, but it belongs to the Nation of Israel as the capital.
No other city in the entire world has such claims laid upon it…Would this fake prophet, pope of the place called “Vatican City,” allow all people to lay claim to it? Does he say ‘Vatican City” belongs to Jews and moslims too, or just to him and his fake claims to be Christian? Supposedly, Peter went there (although the Bible does not say that), and Peter was a Jew who became a Christian Apostle. The Apostle Paul, a Jew who became a Christian, traveled to Rome. So why is “Vatican City” not said to belong to the Jews?
This false shepherd, wearing sheep’s clothing…and that clothing is threadbare and showing wolf fur and teeth…and his moslim henchmen, wish to take Jerusalem away from the Nation of Israel, away from the Jews, and give it to moslims for islam, for satan.
Peter WF says
Move the pope to Pakistan.
gravenimage says
Pope: Coexistence between Christians and Muslims “is a beautiful flower that promises to bear fruit”
…………………..
This is a “beautiful flower” that exists only in his own imagination.
Pious Muslims not only persecute Christians and other Infidels everywhere, but they are commanded by Islam to do so.
STJOHNOFGRAFTON says
What the Pope is proposing is the ideology of Chrislam.
Chrislam ultimately fails because Christianity and Islam are diametrically opposed on the most important of issues – the identity of Jesus Christ. True Christianity declares Jesus to be God incarnate. For Christians, the deity of Christ is a non-negotiable, for without His deity, Jesus’ death on the cross would not have been sufficient to be the atoning sacrifice for the sins of the entire world (1 John 2:2).
Islam adamantly rejects the deity of Christ. The Qur’an declares the idea that Jesus is God to be blasphemy (Qur’an 5:17). Belief in the deity of Christ is considered shirk (“polytheism”) to Muslims. Further, Islam denies the death of Christ on the cross (Qur’an 4:157–158). The most crucial doctrine of the Christian faith is rejected in Islam. As a result, the two religions are absolutely not compatible, making Chrislam a concept
true Christians must reject.
The fact that the Pope is promoting this “beautiful flower” Chrislamic fraternity meme shows that he is not, in fact, a true Christian. Rather, his hidden agenda is that of promoting a one world religion.
Lydia Church says
Exactly… spot on!
Mark Swan says
No, Islam will never coexist with any religion, it is about dominance,
not coexisting.
More than fifteen years ago, Pope John Paul II asserted that Christianity
defines the very idea of Europe. Will the challenge of Islam and an out-of-control
secular morality force a reassertion of that “Christian” identity in Europe, led
by a very charismatic religious figure? Such a person could be in the wings
and preparing to walk onto the world stage.
It is certainly possible that a strongly positioned Church could try to lead
the troubled West threatened by moral decadence and an opposing militant
Religion attempting to push itself onto a nominal Christian World—however,
unless this present Pope takes on a whole new persona, there must be someone
else who fits the billing, on the way.
Rufolino says
Interesting thinking Mark. I’m also constantly asking, what is the NEXT pope going to be like ?
I foresee a strident reaction as the only possible way, at least the next man will surely be a conservative ?
Many people urgently look for a change but Bergoglio could theoretically be in St.Peter’s shoes for many years yet.
Fritz says
This pope is clearly insane.
Dries says
Pardon the possible pun – but with this statemennt the pope has made himself the perfect April fool
Herman says
This idiot in his ivory tower is not capable of seeing the continue vandalising and destroying of churches all over the world…
He is a shame and an insult to the position he holds
Almost the “sheep in wolves cloths”, but where are his “advisers”?
Too busy with ?????
And yes: I have NO RESPECT at all for these traitors!!!
And the catholic church has lot’s and lot’s of them, everywhere in the world!
Anne Smith says
More like ragwort
janwog says
Especially fruit for Islam with the demise of Christianity.
Garth Woodward says
guess thats his girlfriend for the night
Arlis J Edmondson says
Maybe the Pope can learn to read. I don’t think these Church attacks are being carried out by either Christians or Jews…
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2019/04/france-an-average-of-three-churches-are-attacked-every-day