God doubtless wants all of us to live in peace, but what exactly is preventing that? What kind of “fraternity” can Christians enjoy with Muslims in light of these teachings:
Muslims must fight against and subjugate Christians: “Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden what has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.” — Qur’an 9:29
Those who believe in the divinity of Christ are unbelievers: “They have certainly disbelieved who say that Allah is Christ, the son of Mary.” — Qur’an 5:17 (cf. 5:72)
Jesus is not the Son of God and belief in the Trinity is “excess”: “O People of the Book! Do not exaggerate in your religion nor utter anything concerning Allah save the truth. The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was only a messenger of Allah, and his word which he conveyed to Mary, and a spirit from him. So believe in Allah and His messengers, and do not say ‘Three.’ Cease! It is better for you! Allah is only One Allah. It is far removed from his transcendent majesty that he should have a son. His is all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And Allah is sufficient as Defender.” — Qur’an 4:171
And: “It is not befitting to Allah that he should beget a son. Glory be to him! When He determines a matter, he only says to it, ‘Be,’ and it is.” — Qur’an 19:35
Jesus was not crucified: “And because of their saying: We killed the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, Allah’s messenger – they did not kill him or crucify him, but it appeared so to them; and those who disagree concerning it are in doubt about it; they have no knowledge of it except pursuit of a conjecture; they did not kill him for certain.” — Qur’an 4:157
Christians have forgotten part of the divine revelations they received: “From those, too, who call themselves Christians, We did take a covenant, but they forgot a good part of the message that was sent them: so we estranged them, with enmity and hatred between the one and the other, to the day of judgment. And soon will Allah show them what it is they have done.” — Qur’an 5:14
Those who believe that Jesus is God’s Son are accursed: “The Jews call Ezra a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah’s curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth! ” — Qur’an 9:30
Christians who do not accepted Muhammad and the Qur’an are the most vile of created beings: “Nor did those who were given the Scripture become divided until after there had come to them clear evidence. And they were not commanded except to worship Allah, sincere to Him in religion, inclining to truth, and to establish prayer and to give zakah. And that is the correct religion. Indeed, they who disbelieved among the People of the Book and the polytheists will be in the fire of Hell, abiding eternally therein. Those are the most vile of created beings.” — Qur’an 98:6
Also, a hadith has Muhammad predicting that Jesus will return at the end of the world and break the cross, as it is an insult to Allah’s power to say that he would have allowed one of his prophets to be crucified:
Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah’s Apostle said, “By Him in Whose Hands my soul is, son of Mary [Jesus] will shortly descend amongst you people [Muslims] as a just ruler and will break the Cross and kill the pig and abolish the Jizya [a tax taken from the non-Muslims, who are in the protection, of the Muslim government]. Then there will be abundance of money and nobody will accept charitable gifts. (Bukhari 3.34.425)
Muslims have sometimes taken this to mean not just that crosses will be destroyed in the end times, but that they should be now. In Spain in 2015, Muslims broke into a church, spray-painted “Allah” on wall, and destroyed the crucifix. In Pakistan in 2014, Muslims destroyed a church that was under construction, and desecrated the cross. When the Islamic State occupied Mosul, it made destruction of all crosses in the city a top priority.
Here, in conclusion, is my favorite New Testament verse, this time referring to Pope Francis: “Leave them; they are blind guides. And if a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit.” (Matthew 15:14)
“God wants Catholic, Muslim fraternity – Pope,” ANSA, April 3, 2019:
(ANSA) – Vatican City, April 3 – Pope Francis said God wants inter-faith solidarity as he spoke about his trip to Morocco last weekend during his weekly general audience on Wednesday.
“With Muslims, we are descendants of the same Father, Abraham: why does God permit there to be so many religions?”…
“But what God wants is fraternity between us and in a special way – here is the reason for this trip – with our brothers, sons of Abraham like us, the Muslims. “We must not be afraid of difference: God allowed this. “We must be afraid if we do not work in fraternity, to walk together in life”.
CogitoErgoSum says
Christians and Muslims do NOT worship the same God.
CogitoErgoSum says
The Pope should believe the God of the Jews is the same God of which Christ spoke but no Christian should believe that the Allah of Islam is God. Jesus was born a Jew and spoke of Himself as the Son of the God of the Jews but Muhammad’s god of the Quran claims all of that is a lie. Any person who believes that God does NOT lie cannot believe that God would tell one group of people one thing and another group of people something exactly the opposite. That would make God a liar. The Pope really is a blind man if he can’t see this. Or does the Pope agree with the Muslims that the scriptures of the Christians and Jews are lies? I say again, this Pope needs to retire …. NOW.
Dr. Doom says
I agree! This Pope is not a spiritual leader in any way, shape, or form.
K WAGNER says
The POPE is a HERETIC
Michael Copeland says
When Islamic State destroyed the tomb and monastery of Saint Elian they explained:
“It was dedicated to a god other than Allah”.
Lydia Church says
Totally different god!
And to analyze the exact remarks…
Q: “With Muslims, we are descendants of the same Father, Abraham: why does God permit there to be so many religions?”…
A: Looking at racial lines, all we can say is that many nations have descended from Abraham. Some of us are in those lines and others are not. Of those that are, they belong to many different religions. We are not descended of the same ‘father’ as some can’t claim Abraham as an ancestor. If one is speaking regarding religion, there is only one God; the one of the Christian Bible. There is no other ‘Abrahamic’ faith, since all other religions are false. Even Rabbinical Judaism, which relies on the Talmud above the Old Testament and is anathema to Christianity. ‘True’ Judaism today is Christianity because that is where the road lead to and God outlined that in prophecy. As for the question, God does not ‘endorse’ any other religion than Biblical Christianity. He ‘allows’ anything because we were given a freewill. In the Garden of Eden, the devil was allowed to tempt Adam and Eve with another religion, and by their freewill, they made the wrong choice and were deceived. The devil quoted ‘God’s Word’ to them, but with a twist. “Did God REALLY say…?” And we see this all the more often as the days grow darker…. questioning the Word of God; the Bible. Part of the reason why God permits it is to separate the sheep from the goats. The sheep will choose God’s way, Christianity, the goats will choose another path ‘of their own making.’ God also allows sin and rebellion. But later comes the judgment. This way one can see what life looks like when you don’t choose God and His ways, but another path… and then suffering enters into the picture.
C: “But what God wants is fraternity between us and in a special way – here is the reason for this trip – with our brothers, sons of Abraham like us, the Muslims.
R: No. There is no fellowship with darkness. We are not brothers. They are lost sinners and we are saved Christians. They are not our brothers since they are muslims. They are not even ‘sons of Abraham’ in the sense that the Bible refers to ‘sons of Abraham,’ as that term refers to Christians of any race in a unique way even above referring to Jews. We are the ‘seed or offspring of Abraham’ and heirs by faith, and that faith is in Christ as the Bible declares about Christ (not another book). See Galatians and Romans. So genetically we may not be ‘sons of Abraham’ in a descendant way, but we are sons of Abraham in God’s way. Some muslims (not all, since it is not restricted by race) are ‘sons’ of Abraham in a genetic way, but not in a spiritual way, so not in God’s way; Christian faith. So we are not brothers spiritually and maybe not genetically either. But we can see that the reason for the trip is given as ‘interfaith’ purposes, something that God is totally against and what the antichrist will implement.
C: “We must not be afraid of difference: God allowed this. “We must be afraid if we do not work in fraternity, to walk together in life”.
R: Here ‘allowing’ is falsely interpreted as ‘condoning’. Just because something exists on earth does not mean that God is in favor of it. The devil and sin are some examples of that. As for fearing differences, that all depends on the differences in question. And to the contrary, we must be afraid if we DO work together in fraternity… with a people who are not our brothers but rather our enemies. God does not want this. He said to have no fellowship with darkness (Ephesians 5) and islam is darkness.
Happy to answer the questions anytime and set the record straight!
Nat Calverley says
According to the bible god gave man free will. That is why you have multiple religions.
As an atheist and apostate that has studied religion most of my life ,I respect people’s right to believe in whatever they want as long as they do not promote violence and harm to their fellow man.
Islam violates that tenant and has no place in the modern world.
Charles says
Cogito, the gospels enjoin us to love our enemies. Obviously we must first discern who are the enemies.
World@70 says
I do believe this Pope has a learning disability.
Terry Gain says
He can’t be this stupid. There must be another explanation.
Dan says
I dunno.
People still support Hillary despite all the evidence against.
And believe President Trump colluded with the Russians despite the evidence finally revealing not.
And think there’s eleventy hundred genders.
And blame law abiding citizens for gun crimes.
And love socialism.
And idolize Che and Fidel and Chavez and Muduro.
And think America, not the dictators run about 90% of the world’s countries, are to blame for the world’s problems. (Although Hillary, Biden and Obama have certainly made their contributions.)
And voted in Occasional Cortex.
And so on and so forth so…
Stupid people in positions of power who refuse to believe there competitors who will lie, cheat and steal to take them out?
Yeah, I can see someone being that stupid.
David M says
He’s gone to the dark side.
Rational man says
Yes that is it in a nut shell. He is not a christian leader but a false pope who knows exactly what he is doing and it is not the work of God/Jesus.
alex reid says
The Pope is a delusional idiot! He’s in the business of Religion & so he’s associating his lot with a bunch of retards who just happen to be “religious”. Mohammed was a mass murderer, rapist, slaver, liar, robber, paedophile & a necrophile. Some role model. Long overdue the entire lot of them were thrown into the Mediterranean & let people live in Peace.
Rufolino says
When someone in the Vatican reminds the pope of these facts (and there MUST BE someone who does !), I would very much like to know HOW the pope reacts.
There seems to be plenty of evidence that the pope just denies reality.
Walter Sieruk says
This about about the pope wanting “Catholic ,Muslim fraternity” Is a desire of pope Francis is a nonsense and illogical desire. For the authorized and official written standard written literature of the Roman Catholic Church uphold and teaches the doctrine of the Trinity of God . Likewise, many ,if not all, of the Protestant churches also teach the Trinity of God. The Trinity is a Christian doctrine that Islam strongly denies . Therefore since this basic doctrinal difference is outstanding ,any kind of genuine “fraternity’ between professed Christians and Muslims is illogical ,in contrast to reason and outright absurd.
This error, ignorance and foolish idea of pope Francis is awful. For there are a number of apologists for Islam, some are imams and mullahs and strangely enough, even some so called “Christian” priests and pastors, who don’t really obey the instruction of the Bible against such folly, as in Ephesians 5:11.II Timothy 3:16. Those “Christian” clerics, as pope Francis , have even made the outlandish claim that Christians and Muslim both believe in and worship the same God. So it stands to reason that it’s important to know if this claims valid and true or invalid and false. The facts are that the god of Islam or the Muslims is a single being. In great contrast the God of Christianity, of the Christians consists as the Trinity. By the Trinity it means that “Within the essence of the one True God there are Three Persons. Being God the Father. God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. Not three gods in one But Three Distinct Persons in One God. Being the Tri-Personal Nature of God, Matthew 3:13-17. Second Corinthians 13:14. . The Bible teaches, the Father is God, Galatians 1:1.The Son is God, First John 5:20. The Holy Spirit is God, Acts 5:3,4. Not three gods but the one and only Triune God.
As further explained in the Christian book MAJOR BIBLE THEMES by Lewis Sperry Chafer on page 39 which informs the readers that “Many believe that the doctrine of the Trinity in implicit in the use of the word Elohim, as the name of God which is in a plural form and seems to refer to the Triune God. “ Likewise, in the Christian magazine PERHAPS TODAY November/December 2013 on page 8 it reads about Genesis 1:1. “In the beginning God [this is the plural noun Elohim, meaning ‘more than one’] created the heaven and the earth.”
Furthermore, a bit of a view of the inner workings of the Trinity together may be seen in that the God the Father raised Jesus from the dead. Romans 10:9,10. Jesus raised Himself from the dead, John 2:19,20. The Holy Spirit raised Jesus from the dead, Romans 8:11.The inner-workings of the Trinity of God may also be seen in the fact that the Father sanctifies, First Thessalonians 5:23. The Son sanctifies, Ephesians 5:26. Hebrews 2:11; 9:12,14;13:12.The Holy Spirit sanctifies ,Romans 15:16. Second Thessalonians 2:13. Getting back to the Bible book of Genesis. In Genesis 1:26 in reads “The God said let US make man in Our image , according to our likeness…” The words are the plural “Us” and “Our.” As in “We the Trinity” For the very next verse, 27, it further reads “So God created man in His own image…” In verse 26 it’s the plural “Us” and “Our” to the singular “His” That is Three Persons in One God. In addition, in the New Testament in Matthew 28:19 It further reads the Jesus said “Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the the Son and the Holy Spirit.” [N.K.J.V] That is “name” not “names.”
In conclusion the many apologists and propagandists for Islam for Islam who make the claim that Christians and Muslims believe in and worship the same God are make an untrue and outright false claim. For the God of Christianity, Christians and the Bible is not the god of Islam Muslims and the Koran.
There is the Christian internet site which replies the many different claims made by the imams and mullahs as well as the other apologists for Islam. It’s http://www.answering-islam.org
Sun says
“We must be afraid if we do not work in fraternity, to walk together in life”.
The Pope could set a good example. He should send the Swiss Guards on a vacation leave and open the gates of the Vatican to welcome his brothers and sisters.
gravenimage says
Yep…
Kay says
The Pope should set a good example and like the Saint he named himself after, he should care about the souls of those he refers to as brothers and introduce them to Jesus.
Spiro says
This pope is truly ignorant or mentally ill if he thinks Islam and Christianity can co exists
Maybe he should work on his shrinking Catholic Church
and spread the gospel like the bible tells us to do
and stop courting the ones who intent to dominate non Islamics
I find it amazing the catholics let this go on
Raja says
God WANTS all the traditional churches to leave their mix of piety and tradtion. (Jesus was cleary against all man made tradtions when opposed to God’s cause) Would the Pope follow God in this respect? No Never.
Why is he expecting his faithful to take him seriously?
He is not uniting two “sects” but trying to unite The good and the ugly…
gravenimage says
We all know what a mix of ice cream and feces winds up tasting like…
elee says
From the infallible source that brought you the Inquisition……..
Spiro says
So the inquisition again
Did we forget about the slaughtered in constainople
The slaughtered in Judea .Egypt, Spain and Balkans
Oh that’s it that doesn’t count
elee says
By no means forgotten. The Inquisition closed shop in 1808. Some within the Church probably concede that the Inquisition did not embody the best of Christianity. Meanwhile Muslims hold that the Verse of the Sword and its ilk are the eternal unalterable truth. Oh and it was a Pope who promoted the Crusades. Many would prefer that Pope to the current incumbent.
Ecosse1314 says
Any reason in your opinion that the Crusades should not have occurred. By that I mean the underlying reasons that led to them not the ways they were administered.
elee says
Ecosse1314, perhaps I was not clear enough. I believe that the Crusades on the whole were a good idea that got terribly botched in far too many ways. I’m not an expert on this history but do heartily recommend Hilaire Belloc’s book-length essay on the topic.
Ecosse1314 says
Sorry..misinterpretated there
Nat Calverley says
The crusades were a response to Muslims conquering 3/4 of the Christian world by force.
Renate says
I’ve heard it said that the Pope is a Marxist. If so, that’s where he gets his reasoning and he’ll have to wait until he helps Islam win to find out that he’s been fooled…like the Leftists did in Iran.
underbed cat says
That is an excellent point.
Rufolino says
Three certs :-
This Pope is not a European and has little interest in Western culture.
The Pope is influenced principally by a Christian interpretation of Marxism.
He is now a stubborn old man whose views are solidified and rigid -so no matter how much he is criticised, little will change until he is gone.
patriotliz says
He IS a Marxist SJW…the only things that he may not have in common w/ the Leftist Globalist Marxist elites is that he says he’s against abortion and believes in God.
mneidoff says
I am convinced he is possessed by a demon. Just as Muhammad was possessed. In Buddhism this is the latter day of the Law when the world is filled with anger, stupidity and greed. The people are egoists and their lives can no longer connect to the old teachings because they corrupt everything they touch, reverse alchemy like turning gold into lead. Therefore the gods flee their temples and demons fly in and take possession of them, so they worship devils.
Kepha says
So, is thre also some sign that the Maitreya will appear ;)?
Benedict says
I for one would like to see proof of this, when and where did Our Blessed Lord speak to this pope on the matter of Catholic and Muslim fraternity. If he is unable to do so he should stop lying to the Catholic people.
Truth Triumps says
At End times, persons in Responsible position will take Detrimental Actions, which may seem, right!!!!
somehistory says
1 Cor. 10 “You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons.”
2 Cor. 6 “For what fellowship do righteousness and lawlessness have? What sharing does light have with darkness?”
The True God would never want anyone to “drink the cup of demons.” Doing so leads to eternal death. God created man as a free moral agent, a creature with “free will.” A creature who has the power to make choices. Our Creator wants each one to make the right choice. But He does not force us to do so and therefore, each one is allowed…if he/she chooses…to make the wrong choice. The wrong choice leads to darkness. The wrong choice…drinking the “cup of demons” leads to death.
If one knows that another has a cup of poison and wishes to “share” that cup, does it make sense to drink from it? If one knows that another has a cup of poison and wishes to force the drinking, would that one not oppose and fight to resist drinking?
Should anyone listen to this fool who keeps advocating for Christians to hold close islam and its adherents who wish to kill all who oppose them? moslims drink the cup of demons.
1 Cor 15:33 “Don’t be fooled (deceived) by those who say such things, for bad company corrupts good character.” It not only “corrupts” the character. It leads to death and God’s displeasure.
FYI says
unfortunately….. the muslim pagan Arab god allah {“the BEST of deceivers” k3:54} begs to differ..
“Oh ye who believe!Take not the Jews and Christians for friends,they are friends to each other.he among you who takes them for friends is one of THEM{i.e an infidel}”
koran 5 v 51
No sign of brotherly love there,no “love thy neighbor”{in fact allah teaches the OPPOSITE to God’s 2nd chief commandment}no Golden Rule,no realization that the “infidel” is a fellow human being who deserves respect
{instead we have allah teaching “slay the unbelievers wherever ye find them” k2:191}
Christians may say we are all God’s children but we are certainly not all allah’s{“the BEST of deceivers” k3:54}children.
The koran CURSES Jews on a FALSE premise and the Christians for believing in Jesus k9:30
allah: the antisocial pagan god of islam who hates Jews,Christians,Buddhists,Hindus,Ex-muslims,Atheists..
allah the Loveless:allah the god of Al Walaa Wal Baraa,the pathetic islamic doctrine of HATE.
STJOHNOFGRAFTON says
The three Abrahamic faiths meme is mush religion and false. Genetic decendancy from Abraham may apply, mostly to the Jews and Arabs, but certainly not to all Muslims. Whilst most true Christians are probably not genetically related to Abraham the only spiritual descendants of Abraham are true Christians.
(Galatians 3:29 “And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s offspring, heirs according to promise”).
somehistory says
STJOHNOFGRAFTON
True! 100%
gravenimage says
Pope: God wants Catholic, Muslim fraternity
………………………
Well, yes–but one may have to get past those Muslims raping, oppressing, and slaughtering Catholics and other Infidels first…
WPM says
The Pope wants his flock to be feed to the Islamic wolves and if they complain about it he labels them bigoted haters not good Christians. He is a true libtard willing to let the common man in his flock to suffer to satisfy his ego .Nice to live in a guarded palace24/7 on the donation of the Catholic Churches laymen and to lambasted them when they object they want to live their lives free from street violence, rape of their women , bombing of their churches, murdering and pillaging of their rural villages in Africa and Asia. If he cannot see the difference between the God of the Christians and the Jews with the murdering slave master mentality of Allah he is a deaf, blind, dumb , in ever moral fiber of his soul. Marxism has driven moral and logical reasoning from his soul .
patriotliz says
One of the many forms of “jihad”— the “Interfaith Jihad.”
BUT…it’s only a one way….Interfaith for Christians to accept Islam and “see how much we have in common”…. but it’s always supremacy for Muslims.
Muslims ‘tolerate’ Christians only as dhimmis.
I don’t think you will see field trips for Muslim students from an Islamic indoctrination school visiting a Church and reciting Christian prayers.
As a Christian you are the INTOLERANT one if you do not pander to and accept Islam on equal footing as a “religion.” The fact that Muhammad was said to be a “prophet” is a smack in the face of Jesus…since no more prophets were needed after the Messiah. They would all be false and Muhammad could have only been conjured up by Satan. We can know evil by it’s “fruits” and that would be Islamic murder and mayhem against humanity and the destruction of Christianity.
somehistory says
patriotliz
+2
scherado says
…
God wants guilders
God wants kroner
God wants Swiss francs
God wants French francs
Oui il veut des francs francais
God wants escudos
God wants pesetas
Don’t send lira
God don’t want small potatoes
…
-Roger Waters, What God Wants, Part II, off Amused To Death
WPM says
Roger Waters has sided with the Islamics with calling for a boycott of Israeli goods and services.