Qanta Ahmed, a naturalized American, accomplished doctor and liberal Muslim, is at it again. Claiming to represent true Islam, she has launched another diatribe against Ilhan Omar over her recent, infamous CAIR speech in which the Minnesota Democrat congresswoman described the 9/11 terrorist attacks as “some people did something.”
Ahmed quite rightly calls Omar “…a disgrace for me and other American Muslims with her outrageous, ignorant, anti-Semitic and now anti-American comments.” But then she misleads her readers by claiming falsely that Omar “…repeatedly projects a distorted and patently Islamist interpretation of Islam – a religion that in reality stands for the values of justice, peace and ethical conduct.”
Ahmed sets up a false dichotomy, painting Islam as a rosy religion of peace and harmony, and Islamism as a perversion of Islam, focused inexplicably on violence, bloodshed, hatred and terror. She never explains how Muslim “radicals” could ever come up with their worldview and attribute it to Islam, or how Muslims from disparate realms and cultures could come to the same conclusion — that they are compelled to violent jihad against the non-Muslim world — with nothing in common except the Qur’an, the traditions of Muhammad, and fourteen hundred years of bloody Islamic history.
All evidence to the contrary, Ahmed vainly tries to separate Islamism from Islam. Were Muhammad alive today, he would thrash her for hypocrisy — attempting to portray his “revealed religion” as something less than it is. She is like a chef touting the wonders of the death cap mushroom, deadly poisonous as its name implies, by claiming the mushroom itself is beautiful and healthy, and that the poison dwelling in every aspect of the mushroom has nothing to do with the mushroom itself. Yet the two are impossible to separate.
Ahmed skillfully pillories Omar’s vile 9/11 dismissal by drawing attention not only to the initial murder and carnage perpetrated by the Muslim attackers but also to the ongoing fallout over the almost 18 years since — deaths due to disaster-related diseases contracted by rescuers, chronic mental health issues among survivors and family members of those lost in the massacre, and the fear and animus generated in the non-Muslim world toward Muslims as a result of this (and 34,800+ Muslim terrorist attacks worldwide since 9/11).
She remarks that on that fateful day of the attack, while working as a physician in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, she turned on the TV at 4 pm to witness live the World Trade Towers being hit by hijacked jetliners.
“Living at the time in the Saudi Kingdom – the epicenter of Islam – as the world learned the identity of the 9/11 terrorists, I wondered how my religion had been hijacked by suicidal killers who claimed they had a religious duty to kill innocents.
And I knew from that moment that these murderers would now become the face of Islam for many non-Muslims who know little about a religion with more the 1.6 billion followers around the globe.”
One wonders about the reaction of the many Muslims around her in the streets of Riyadh at the first news of the jihadi attacks on the USA. Were they as horrified as she, or was there dancing, horn-honking and the sharing of sweets at this blow struck against the Great Satan, as America is labeled from the pulpits of mosques across the Islamic world? Perhaps Qanta Ahmed will share her recollections with us someday.
Nevertheless, Ahmed herself is desperate to show that the Islamism of the hijackers is a poison that has nothing to do with the death cap mushroom of true Islam.
“Radical Islam – also known as Islamism – is a deviant, fictional and extreme distortion of true Islam, perpetrated by Islamist Muslims who use it to justify hatred and lethal violence that in reality have nothing to do with Islam.”
So, from where do these deviant radicals get their non-Islamic ideas that they associate with Islam? Could it be from any of the 109 verses addressing jihad that are found in the Qur’an, or the numerous Qur’anic decrees painting disbelievers and hypocrites (vacillating Muslims) as the enemies of Allah whom true believers as instruments of Allah’s wrath are called to punish? Could it be from “holy texts” that promise those who kill and are killed in the way of Allah that they will find eternal sensual pleasures beyond imagining as a reward for their brutal conquests on earth?
Might their penchant for terror find its roots in the example of their prophet, whom the Qur’an presents as the “beautiful pattern” (33:21) for all human beings to emulate? It is Muhammad, according to the most reliable of Hadith sources, who declared, “I have been made victorious through terror” (Sahih Bukhari, 4.52.220).
Where could Islamists have developed their enmity toward Jews? Certainly not from the dozens of Qur’anic texts which paint the Jews as evil, untrustworthy, greedy, treacherous, cursed by Allah, stubborn, lying disobedient, scheming, dirty/unclean? Or from the Hadith traditions? One of the most famous of these (even ensconced in the Hamas Charter) and repeated often, prophesies:
“The Day of Judgment will not come about until Muslims fight the Jews, when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say, ‘O Muslims, O Abdullah [servant of Allah], there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him.’ Only the Gharqad tree, (the Boxthorn tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews.” (Sahih Muslim, 41:6985); see also Sahih Muslim, 41:6981, 6982, 6983, 6984; Sahih al-Bukhari, 4:56:791; 4:52:177.)
Why does Qanta Ahmed not acknowledge these seminal, authoritative Islamic texts? Only she knows. Instead, she peddles her own fictional Islam, though making very little effort to defend her version from Muslim sources. Islam, she protests is “…a religion that in reality stands for the values of justice, peace and ethical conduct.” To support this, she quotes one verse from the Qur’an, prefacing it with a sentence meant to impress readers with the Qur’an’s commitment to justice:
In fact, the holy texts of Islam emphasize that one’s greatest allegiance should be to justice – even if doing so demands superseding family and coreligionist ties.
“Be strict in observing justice, and be witness for Allah, even though it be against yourselves or against your parents or kindred,” the Koran says in Chapter 4, Verse 36.
One evidence that the Qur’an is not really very important to Qanta Ahmed’s understanding of Islam is the fact that she misattributes this text to Sura 4, v. 36. As a matter of fact, the text she quotes is found in Sura 4, v. 135 — only 99 verses later….
And there are two points to make with regard to this boilerplate teaching on justice: first, every religion worth its salt claims that justice is a virtue that shows no partiality, for partiality whether to parents or kindred or self is obviously a denial of justice. Islam is not to be lauded for promoting something so obvious, and found in all major religions. Second, justice in Islam is defined by the decrees of Allah, which are weighted in favor of believers and against disbelievers. This is why Islam enshrines jihad warfare, slavery, sexual abuse against non-Muslim girls and women, and dhimmitude status on recalcitrant Christians and Jews. Such treatment is just, because Allah declares it so. In Allah’s kingdom, non-Muslims do not share the “justice” that Muslims are meant to enjoy.
Yet even if Islam championed true justice, as the other religions do, that is not the issue. What sets Islam apart is not where it agrees with the other religions of the world, but where it differs — and on this front Qanta Ahmed wills herself to be blind. Islam is the only religion whose god demands his followers to pick up the sword to advance his kingdom until all the world is conquered; whose god tells his subjects they are the best of all peoples, and non-Muslims are the vilest of all created beings; whose law threatens doubting adherents with beheading should they recant their allegiance.
Ahmed has created a fantasy Islam in her own mind, one which ignores the vast evidence of Islamic texts and history, and from this castle in the sky she launches attacks against Ilhan Omar, whose Islam sadly is much closer to the Muslim Brotherhood and that of the 7th C. desert prophet himself.
Read the rest here.
ntesdorf says
What a pity that Qanta Ahmed is mistaken about the true nature of Islam. If she were right we could all relax quite a bit more.
mortimer says
Dr. Ahmed has the wrong information and is disseminating only fanciful wishful thinking. Here is the MESSAGE OF MOHAMMED from the Koran … violence directed against disbelievers.
Koran 48.29 “Muhammad is the messenger of Allah
Those with him are VIOLENT (ashiddaa’) against the unbelievers (kufaar),
Compassionate amongst themselves.” (Richard Bell’s translation)
Islam is malignant and malicious towards disbelievers … not benign. The goal of Islam is ENSLAVEMENT of the human race using every technique, including terrorism (Koran 8.60 ‘Turhibunna’ terrorize them).
thebigW says
“Dr. Ahmed has the wrong information and is disseminating only fanciful wishful thinking.”
She ain’t the one doing the fanciful wishful thinking. No way in hell she doesn’t know she’s presenting false information.
MTMLA says
She’s a liar. She knows better about islam. I saw her interview and I wanted to vomit. She knows how people in KSA are treated according to Sharia. She’s a liar, through and through
gravenimage says
Agree, thebigW.
FYI says
She must have missed the violently antisemitic bits of her koran…
allah{ or muhammed} probably would be annoyed at Ahmed for contradicting islam’s teaching on women.
In the koran it is made clear that the Testimony of a woman is HALF that of a man k2:282
The reason for this is because,according to the illiterate {k7:157}muhammed{APFh,allah prays for him}, of ” the deficiency of a woman’s mind”{Sahih Bukhari 2658},an attitude that still certainly exists in islamic countries since,after all,it is in the koran.
William A Carr says
I would like a Muslim to show me the parts of the Quran and hadiths which show that Islam is about peace and love/
Westman says
So, if the Islam is, “a religion that in reality stands for the values of justice, peace and ethical conduct.”
Could Qanta Ahmed please explain why millions of Pakistanis want to murder Asia Bibi? And how that displays “ethical conduct”?
And, please, a few words about Turkey’s Erdogon concerning his, “Ottoman Slap”, and his threat to return any biased Austrailians, “in coffins”?
And while we’re speaking of “deviant” Islam, how about explaining those heads chopped off in dear old SA? Or those bodies hanging from cranes in Iran? Did Ahmed ever treat a patient with an infected arm whose hand had been chopped off?
It’s good that Ahmed has left Real Islam in the rear view mirror in her own life but it changes nothing for the minds entrapped in its web, the enormous wasted human potential, or the parasite it is upon humans.
Ahmed is an anomaly in Islam, an educated physician, in the West, with no hijab, free, while the majority of her “sisters” of the world have been denied a good education, mutilated, required to be covered, must be accompanied by a relative, can be beaten by husband, shorted in inheritance, instructed by the Quran that they lack intelligence, and generally become lower class citizens.
william rodgers says
All of the evil pagan and tribal cult followers of muhammad are wrong. None are for real peace and compromise. All demand subjugation to their Cult
Jaladhi says
This is Ahmad’s stealth jihad to protect Islam – lying and deceiving the gullible kafirs such as those on Fox TV.
mortimer says
Perhaps Dr. Ahmed is sincerely mistaken. The Koran comes in two parts: 1) peaceful Islam 2) warlike Islam. They are both authentic and Islamic scholars have explained Allah’s self-contradiction with the theory of ABROGATION.
Dr. Ahmed should know about ABROGATION, and if she DOESN’T KNOW about it, then SHE SHOULD NOT BE PRESENTING HERSELF AS AN AUTHORITY. She is presumptuous and deceptive to present Islam without putting the PEACEFUL VERSES of the Koran in the context of ABROGATION.
Islamic scholars say that the Koranic verse K.9.5 ABROGATES ALL THE ‘PEACEFUL’ VERSES in the Koran.
Chapter 9 of the Koran is a declaration of war against humanity.
Dr. Ahmed has NO EXCUSE for misdirecting her listeners. Islam is NOT benign, but is certainly a doctrine of warfare and hatred against disbelievers.
Jaladhi says
Qanta Ahmed knows exactly what she is doing! Every Muslim knows his or her Quran well and that the second half Medina passages are the murderous ones. But Muslim won’t point that out – they will only talk about Meccan passages and claim Islam is peaceful. So this is Ahmed’s stealth jihad to fool us. Don’t fall for it! The last chapter al sayaf or the chapter of the sword summarizes the religion very well and all Muslims will follow or support it in some manner!!
thebigW says
Thanks Jaladhi, I don’t know what mortimer’s been smoking. “Perhaps Dr. Ahmed is sincerely mistaken.” Yeah sure, and “perhaps” the moon is made of green cheese that looks like it’s not green cheese. “perhaps” the Earth is really flat even though most everything we know about it says otherwise.
FYI says
And that hijab is worn in honor of a god,the pagan Arab god Al iLah…
A misogynistic god who thinks women are stupid, having ” a deficiency of mind”
{Sahih Bukhari 2658}
A god who says most women go to hell{Sahih Muslim 241}
A god who PERMITS the rape of women{Sunan Abu Dawud vol 2 Hadith 2155}
{“Context” the islamic apologist will say:but never is there EVER an excuse for rape..}
A god who says men must be in charge of women{k4:34}
A god who says “Women..like domestic animals to you” {Al tabari 9:1754}
All that hijab wearing for nothing muslima ladies!
In honor of a god who hates women…..
Of course it is much ,much,worse for Ilhan Omar than it is for say,Arab women.
islam’s attitude to women is bad enough but you see a Somali woman would not be considered equal to an Arab woman{islamic supremacist ideology puts the Arabs WAY ABOVE all other non-Arab muslims:thus indonesian,somali etc muslims are not actually considered the same or as authentic as Arabs}
PRCS says
I’ve seen several of those gullible Fox kafirs fawning over her description of “her personal Islam”.
Not surprising, of course, given that most–if not all of them–still think IS “fighters” are: “radical Islamic Islamist Muslim extremists’ who are twisting and perverting Allah’s “revealed” word.
Not just television ‘star’, of course: Secretary of State Pompeo referred to the Sri Lanka jihadists as “evil doers”.
KWJ says
Another Secretary of State in the pocket of jihad Gulf states…KSA, Qatar, UAE. His suck-up meeting with Qatar not long ago showed that.
Halal Bacon says
de·lu·sion·al
/dəˈlo͞oZH(ə)nəl/
adjective
characterized by or holding idiosyncratic beliefs or impressions that are contradicted by reality or rational argument, typically as a symptom of mental disorder.
“hospitalization for schizophrenia and delusional paranoia”
Or Else! says
I wouldn’t think that, other than the small Ahmadiyya sect, there’d be a lot of mosques, Islamic schools, colleges, universities that teach what Quanta Ahmed is selling.
Did Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi’s degree encompass the true, peaceful Islam? It didn’t? Shame on the University of Baghdad
10/10 from the taqiyya judges!
Beneath the Veil of Consciousness says
Notice the interviewer? I wonder what Jeanine Pirro was thinking as she was biting her tongue. She is the same brave person who dared to call out true Islam regarding Ilhan Omar’s commitment to Sharia Law. For her bravery, Fox News channel suspended her for two weeks. Apparently, she was not following the false narrative. She has obviously been muzzled on this issue so any future interviews between her and other deceivers will merely be a dance of deception. How sad that we in America treat our most courageous, who argue for reality, with such chilling contempt and humiliation.
mortimer says
If Islam is a religion of peace then why is it the only one that consistently produces religiously-motivated terrorist attacks each and every day of the year?
If Islam is a religion of peace then why were there 35,000 deadly terror attacks committed explicitly in the name of Islam since 9-11?
If Islam is a religion of peace then why did Muhammad, the prophet of Islam, have people killed for insulting him or for criticizing his religion?
If Islam is a religion of peace then why are Muslims told to emulate the example of Muhammad who committed a violent act every six weeks in the last nine years of his life?
If Islam is a religion of peace then why did Mohammed say he was “ordered by Allah to fight men until they testify that there is no god but Allah and that Muhammad is his messenger”??
If Islam is a religion of peace then why after Muhammad died, did the people who lived with him and knew his religion best immediately fall into war with each other?
If Islam is a religion of peace then why did Mohammed’s whole family get murdered by Muslims?
If Islam is a religion of peace then why did three of the first four Islamic rulers get killed by Muslims?
If Islam is a religion of peace then why did Muhammad direct Muslims to wage war on other religions and bring them under submission to Islam?
If Islam is a religion of peace then why did Muslims continue their Jihad against other religions for 1400 years, checked only by the ability of non-Muslims to defend themselves?
If Islam is a religion of peace then why is Islam the only religion that has to retain its membership by formally threatening to kill anyone who leaves?
If Islam is a religion of peace then why does Islam teach that non-Muslims are less than fully human? Muhammad said that Muslims can be put to death for murder, but that a Muslim could never be put to death for killing a non-Muslim
If Islam is a religion of peace then why does the Koran never once speak of Allah’s love for non-Muslims, but it speaks of Allah’s cruelty toward and hatred of non-Muslims more than 500 times?
If Islam is a religion of peace then why do so many people fear it…including Muslims?
If Islam is a religion of peace then why are Muslim countries called Dar al Islam, while non-Muslim countries are called Dar al Harb?
If Islam is a religion of peace then why is there no punishment in Sharia law for the MURDERERS of apostates or blasphemers.
If Islam is a religion of peace then why are there 164 jihad verses in the Koran?
If Islam is a religion of peace then why why are many thousand terrorists and militants acting in the name of jihad and sharia?
If Islam is a religion of peace then why do different Islamic sects make war on each other?
If Islam is a religion of peace then why are there an average of 4.5 lethal jihad attacks every day of the year?
elee says
+1
mateenelass says
+1 many times over!
Wellington says
My compliments, mortimer.
Wayne says
Well said, mortimer. I read every every line as if Judge Jeannine had been reading it. We’d all be in a far better position in this war with Islam if she actually would be permitted to speak the truth.
gravenimage says
Fine post, Mortimer. Thank you.
CRUSADER says
It is as if this is all orchestrated.
Omar and Tlaib are the left jabs which stun you. Didn’t expect these, as you
didn’t know Islam could be harsh.
Now you are softened up by the left hits from Islam’s intense expression…
…only to get whacked from another angle by Islamic propaganda of bewilderment…..
and you are ready to take a fall to the mat. You don’t know what happened!
Whereas Qanta Ahmed does her level best to knock you out with a right punch
you don’t see coming from a loving adversary of sorts….
If it is coordinated somehow, it’s an exceptionally effective strategy for most people to face
because it leaves people very defenseless.
You certainly don’t want to hit back at Qanta Ahmed, you just don’t. She’s too lovely.
So….down you go….
James Lincoln says
Dr. Qanta Ahmed can only be doing one of two things:
1. She is being deliberately dishonest and what she communicates as being Islamic.
or…
2. She is not knowledgeable of Islamic sources which disagree with her.
If #2, then the good doctor should read the Koran along with Robert Spencer’s latest book using evidence-based logic – no emotion. If she does this, and thinks the same way that she currently does, then #1 would definitely apply.
James Lincoln says
typo: “about” what she communicates
elee says
One can be a Muslim and an useful idiot.
Michael Garant says
A radical muslim wants to kill you, a moderate muslim wants a radical muslim to kill you. Don’t remember where I read that but it describes how I feel about her…..
gravenimage says
One can also be a Muslim and a Taqiyya artist…
Troy Laarman says
Either she is ignorant, which being from Saudi Arabia I highly doubt, or she is practicing tekkia(idk how to spell it lol) the quranicaly sanctioned duty of Muslims to lie to unbelievers to protect themselves and to further Islam. She and her I’ll are in my opinion more dangerous than a violent jihadi. War is deception and the decieved will be the tools of oppression for they will defend an Islam that doesn’t exist at the expense of free speech as they shut down those who try to speak the truth about Islam.
Troy Laarman says
Ilk not I’ll ^
Kenek says
“who claimed they had a religious duty to kill innocents.” under islam only the believers are innocent all others must be converted or killed.. people of the book have the option of slavery (jizya is slavery instead of death). some of the dead on 9/11 were moslems who didn’t deserve the same fate as the infidels. she was right.
PRCS says
And she is just now fooling the Ingraham Angle substitute with the same nonsense.
Steve says
What should concern everyone is the Judge is accepting this garbage and this is not the first time with her guest that she has done this.
Demsci says
Before 9/11 ever so few people knew anything about Islam and believed anything about it, what whatever the Muslims told them.
For instance the Muslims told their audience the 5 pillars of Islam; Shahada, Hajj, Zakat, Ramadan, 5 prayers a day, as if that was it.
So many non-Muslims still know so little about Islam. Including reporters and politicians.
But consider:
The name Muslim is in no way protected. There are experts, but no central authority in Islam. It is not possible to throw Muslims out of Islam. On the contrary, someone like Qanta Ahmed, zuhdi Jasser, Majid Nawaz, Irshad Manji etc. they are on principle forbidden to leave Islam!
Yes there is the rule of abrogation. But keep in mind that like Christians saying the Old Testament is no longer prescriptive, some Muslims can claim that the harsh commands in Islam also are no longer prescriptive and only descriptive, to be seen in it’s context of time.
So what do we see? VARIATION in interpretation, even if knowledgeable people think Muslims like Qanta, Zuhdi, Irshad are confused or lying, which I completely understand,
But also great swathes of humans, inside Islam, inside the media, politics and among the non-Muslim masses do believe in this variation. The left often proclaims “The Islam does not exist’, meaning there is great variation in Islam. The right often believes this also, up to and including US president, pope, Fox News.
Their battle cry, 99 out of 100 times in response to Islam is clear and bad; “Do not paint all Muslims with one brush.” Or: “Do not stereotype”. If you do, you are a bigot and to be shut up and shunned. It seems some sort of must for the often ignorant vast majority of non-Muslims to believe in the distinction of minority of bad Muslims and majority of good Muslims.
At least that is both my personal experience and what I ever since 9/11 heard so overwhelmingly on TV, Internet, among politicians of the whole spectrum.
Don’t attack me, the messenger, but to me it seems this is what Mateen Elass et al is up against.
CRUSADER says
Any more specificity on Irshad Manji?
She seems to have drifted more into Identity Politics matters and Moral Courage.
Demsci says
But I keep in mind always, that although I get blocked every time when I am perceived to “paint all Muslims with a black brush” I also can make a very good case with positing: do not “paint all Muslims with a white brush” either. Because that, I think, is the aim of the other side. But that can be and is ever more refuted.
It would indeed be a travesty if non-Muslims were to conclude that Qanta Ahmed’s Islam is the real Islam.
But if it is considered by so many a variation of Islam and ISIS is another than the very vagueness of the core texts is the problem and the danger.
See David Wood and Apostate Prophet. David said: either Allah wants this violence he talks about OR Allah is the worst communicator of all time. Either way, the result is this torrent of terrorist acts (34000 and counting).
Demsci says
I hope Apostate Prophet and other ex-Muslims succeed in their mission to expose Islam and persuade Muslims to leave Islam, en masse.
Meanwhile, one of our positions might be: the names Islam and Muslim are NOT PROTECTED. So anyone can claim to be a Muslim and preach some ideology, religion and call it Islam!
What the late Arabist Hans Jansen said was that the deathpenalty for apostasy was a WEAKNESS. Because it means no matter what is being said about Islam all Muslims stay Muslims as long as they must. Also those with the most deviant interpretations stay inside and abuse the name Muslim, to Islam’s detriment in clarity.
There is only this big problem that the MSM and politicians try to WHITEWASH Islam by claiming the true Islam is clear and good. It is not. It is UNCLEAR and both good and bad. With very bad communication, therefore all these terrorist attacks. At least that is a position we can take, whether we believe it or not. In the hope it is effective.
Linda Goudsmit says
Islam is better understood as a supremacist, expansionist, socio-political movement with a religious wing. What confounds Westerners is their suicidal insistence that Islam is a religion like any other – it isn’t. Islam has been engaged in a religious war against infidels for 1400 years. Westerners tend to forget that back in the day there was no such thing as separation of church and state – religious rule was government rule so religious wars were political wars. The United States was founded on religious freedom and the separation of church and state. Our Judeo-Christian tradition tolerates differences in beliefs – Islam does not. The goal of contemporary Islam is the same goal as 7th century Islam – settlement NOT assimilation. There is no multiculturalism in Islam there is only Islam and its expansionist mission to establish a worldwide caliphate ruled by supremacist Islamic sharia law.
alex reid says
What version of the Koran is she reading? It is all about subjugating & enslaving the rest of the World. On youtube.com even senior Muslim politicians say Islam is a mess. One actually said “for the past 40years we’ve been murdering each other, so how can we get on with non-Muslims?” Long overdue for a good clear out .
patriotliz says
THANK YOU MATEEN! Finally someone critiques Dr. Qanta Ahmed and her STEALTH JIHAD. I yell at the TV every time she pops up on FoxNews and Judge Janine as the token “good” Muslim spokesperson attacking those “bad” Muslims like Ilhan Omar. But she is in fact spewing taqiyya jihad by falsely pretending that her fictional fantasy benign Islam is not that bad “false” “Islamism.” All that she accomplishes is to promote the Islamization of the West by fooling Westerners into thinking that Islam is really a “kinder and gentler religion” than what Muhammad had invented and which has conquered a chunk of the world and now revving up it’s re-conquest of the West. Why doesn’t she do the smart and ethical thing and become an apostate?—BECAUSE—she fully admits she is a “proud” Muslim. What is there to be proud of? Better to be an apostate atheist than to be a Muslim. I was dismayed by a recent article by David Horowitz seemingly validating her Muslim credentials also as a spokesperson for Islam. (See my posting on that article.) What was Horowitz thinking? It seems that Muslims who still retain a foothold in Islam can make a living going around the West bad mouthing their coreligionists who are the true Islamic believers. That makes non-Muslims feel all warm and fuzzy that they are fighting the good fight when they are not.
Just say “NO” to Islam in toto.
By the way…how did she get on the Council of Foreign Relations?
. https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/273538/terrorist-caucus-house-david-horowitz
PRCS says
Yup!
PRCS says
Apr 25, 2019 at 10:48 pm
And she is just now fooling the Ingraham Angle substitute with the same nonsense.
Do they know they’re being buffaloed?
Demsci says
Qanta Ahmed presents her religion as true Islam. and this should not be believed, I agree.
But I suppose all 1,6 billion Muslims believe what they believe is the true Islam.
To me it is important what the non-Muslims believe and see. And I see divers versions of Islam. And I can try to find out which version is the true one, with help from the experts, like Robert.
OR I could conclude that the texts are multi-interpreted because they are multi-interpretable,
esp. if the doctrine of description-not-prescription is practiced. Rather than just having one absolute true, valid interpretation to the exclusion of all others,
especially if it is such a benevolent interpretation as hers.
But that is the very mistake the leftists, media and so many ignorant Westerners make. Who often see nice Muslims and assume a nice Islam. who view an attack on Islam is an attack on all Muslims. who have the attitude of “innocent until proven Guilty” towards Muslims.
Tom says
I used to believe that there was an explicit theological difference between Muslims who follow the Koran of Mecca and the Koran of Medina, one being the teachings of a moderate and peaceful Mohammad and the other the death and destruction associated to the Mohammad that was the angry and hate filled warlord of the later passages of his life.
The evidence of what is constantly and regularly reported, although no where near the number of actual incidents, as hate preaching in mosques throughout the western world and the number of Jihadi’s who are a direct result of fundamental teachings which occur in mosques, has long since changed my mind.
I now believe that there are varying levels of Jihad in Islam, some are appearing as inclined toward peaceful coexistence and some merely moderate while the rest are radical. They are all a form of deception and at the extreme end, violence.
No, sorry but I will listen to what this woman has to say, but it will not change my mind, given the evidence at hand.
gravenimage says
Qanta Ahmed, Death Cap Mushrooms and Islam
………………..
Here is the stalwart Andrew Boston, debunking her claptrap:
“Debunking Qanta Ahmed’s Corrosive Claim, ‘Antisemitism Is Profoundly Against Islam'”
https://pjmedia.com/homeland-security/debunking-qanta-ahmeds-corrosive-claim-antisemitism-is-profoundly-against-islam/
KWJ says
It doesn’t matter to us if Islam is about justice, peace and ethical behavior because what’s ethical behavior in the Qur’an is their idea. It’s like some time ago when a US official chastised a Saudi execution and a Saudi official said “It is truth.” What is justice in the Qur’an? It could mean the punishments and defense of Islam. It could mean when Muhammad had the legs and arms cut off of a camel thieves who also killed the camel owner, that is, justice for the murdered guy. Justice also means being fair and reasonable.
What is ethical behavior in the Qur’an? It’s whatever Muhammad said to do or handled a situation. She should give examples not this vague claim. Ethical behaviors would mean things like not lying, honoring your word/deeds (the latter being stated in the Qur’an), it could mean a verse like when they have conquered unbelievers you tell them about Allah and let them go back to their place (abode) and let them mull over it. If ethical means doing what’s right that could be things contained in the vast sharia laws. E.g. unethical politicians are those who don’t follow the rules, lie, cheat, etc. Having sexual before marriage is a grave sin. Drinking alcohol is forbidden and so on.
What is peace in Islam? A temporary peace treaty? Telling Muslims they should say “Peace!” when an unbeliever uses harsh words against them? That is in the Qur’an. Is peace when Islam dominates the world and all submit to Allah? How much peace was there when Muhammad was sending out raids about seven months into living in Medina?
I’ve had plenty of Muslims tell me Islam is truth, the right path, a correction, so to speak, of the previous monotheistic religions and that Islam is the only monotheistic religion otherwise you are going to the hellfire.
When Muslims say these vague things they should be asked for specifics. She lived in Saudi Arabia where their school books are not sweet and kind. She is not clueless-it is impossible for a Muslim as educated as her to not know how the ulema in Saudi Arabia thinks. Saudis speak of learning a lot of repetition of the Qur’an.
The Muslim Brotherhood says they are about human rights but to them that means the right of Muslims to live under sharia law and all that entails which is not what we consider human rights considering human rights groups get on Islamic countries’ punishments for gays or women not having equal rights or their harsh punishments.
Fox News has gone soft on Islam. After all wealthy Saudis have investments in Fox, Twitter, school book companies, etc. The interviewers don’t challenge their claims or ask for specifics such as, “Will you explain example of justice, peace and ethical behaviors in Islam. What does the Qur’an say?” Then we can point out abrogated verses.
We also have to remember there are tons of fatwas of proper behaviors and solutions the ulemas (the Islamic jurists) base on the Qur’an and Hadiths which constitute Islam.