European opposition to the death penalty leads to peculiar paradoxes. Can a European country deport a pro-death penalty cleric, who supports killing infidels, gay people, and just about anybody else, to Iraq, which has a death penalty and might employ it on him?
Is that poetic justice or a human rights violation?
That’s the quandary of the week in Swedenistan.
Abu Raad, who works at the al-Rashideen mosque in the city of Gävle, was seized on Wednesday and and placed in a migration detention centre along with his adult son.“We want to know the reason for this. We don’t know anything,” Mohammad al-Najjar, the mosque’s leader, told Sweden’s TT news wire. He said he was hoping to be able to make contact with Raad over the weekend through his lawyer.
Baffling.
Why would a devout Muslim cleric be detained in tolerant Sweden? It’s either Islamophobia or ISISphobia.
According to Doku, which investigates Islamic extremists in Sweden, Raad has inspired many Islamic State sympathisers, has hailed an IS victory in Iraq, and has called for homosexual men to be executed.
But there is a Save Raad campaign underway.
Raad’s relatives on Thursday circulated a petition claiming that he was facing deportation, and would face “a guaranteed death sentence” if he ever returned to Iraq.
And if he remains in Sweden, its population will face “a guaranteed death sentence”.
It’s a matter of choosing who lives and who dies.
Raad or Sweden.
Ravi says
Is there a difference between Sweden and Iraq? I thought Sweden is almost looking like Sudan.
Angel says
Sweden one of the most democratic countries in the planet have been taken over by an ancient Muslim fanatics
mortimer says
Sweden is going to become more like Iraq and Sudan as on-the-run jihadists try to escape the death penalty. I believe the time is coming when people we see that the death penalty (while it may not deter jihadism) will certainly keep many jihadis from entering. If they realize that they may be executed in country ‘B’ for their terrorism and crimes against humanity, the jihadis will remain in country ‘A’ … which will hopefully be a Berzerkistan.
When jihadis realize that terrorism is the best way to wreck their own lives and the lives of their families, some may be dissuaded. We must increase the legal penalties against jihadist-terrorists until only Islamic countries will receive the terrorists. Then … ISLAMIC COUNTRIES ARE WELCOME TO THE PROBLEM THEY CREATED by supporting that TERRORISM CULT called Islam.
christianblood says
Sweden is an ISIS/Alqaeda hellhole! A Somali journalist who is a muslim had to leave Sweden and had to go back so Somalia for fear islamic extremists in Sweden! This journalist lady says it much more safe to live in Mogadishu (the most dangerous city on Earth) than to live in Sweden because the power that Islamic extremists have in Sweden! Watch her interview below:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=as4m-dDubjghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=as4m-dDubjg
gravenimage says
Of course, most people would take a Muslim castigating Infidel lands for being worse than Islam with a large grain of salt. Not christianblood, of course.
Lilith Wept says
Mortimer, I agree with you. Moslems understand and respect strength and power. And we of the West are weak and powerless, as moslems see us. We keep appeasing and censoring and restricting ourselves , so moslems won’t be offended, when no Moslem has complained about the thing that’s been censored or restricted!
This constant giving in to Islam and moslems co start stream of demands only causes moslems to think “ great! What else’s can we get if we push harder?”
It’s like a child pushing his parents to see where the boundary is….if you don’t set a boundary , and always enforce it, then that child will keep pushing …and so will moslems.
I do think there needs to be a much stronger her stance taken against Islam. But the problem is that Islam is using the First Amendment ( freedom of religion ” as an open invitation to take over our country. …..
I see moslems using that first amendment and our laws as tools that they use to spread the Islamic influence and to islamify America.
I don’t think that it’s fear that’s causing this appeasement. I think, it’s more that the liberal leftist look at moslems as a poor persecuted minority who has been abused, and taken advantage of, by mainstream America. And of course moslems push out the propaganda that moslems and Islam are always the victim, no matter the circumstance!
But I have no idea what causes people to have a selective blind ess about what Islam really is. I mean , just one reading of the Koran , and reading a biography of Mohammed’s life , and a glance at Islamic history should tell you that this is not a peaceful, tolerant, ideology,!
One look at Sharia law should send liberals running when they see how Islam directly opposes most of their main causes!
windrush48 says
It is BECAUSE Sweden is so “democratic” that Sweden has been taken over my muslims.
As regards this “cleric” ….. deport the lump of camel excrement.
As regards the possibility of his being executed …. sounds like a “personal problem” to me!
gravenimage says
This cringing dhimmitude is not actually democracy–more appeasement.
Leslie Fish says
Tell the Swedes: “No problem! Just deport him to Mecca.” That’s where all good Muslims want to go at least once in their lives, anyway. Let him become the Saudis’ problem.
Savvy Kafir says
Poetic justice, for sure. Keeping alive enemies who would happily have us all killed is just plain stupid.
My fellow progressives need to get over their ethical queasiness regarding capital punishment. The True Believers of Islam are waging war on us. We cannot afford to coddle them or keep them alive at our own expense.
mortimer says
Your globalist pals are using Muslims as ALLIES to impose their globalist utopia on opposed peoples. They deny that jihadism is authentic Islam because they would have to stop importing terror-supporters.
We do not want your boots on our face. The globalist agenda is not about ethics, it’s about the billionaire crony capitalists collaborating with ‘socialist’ ideologues. This type of political economic system of partnership between crony capitalism and socialism was created by Mussolini.
Savvy Kafir says
Globalists are NOT my pals. Anyone allied with Muslims, of any sort, for any reason, is NOT my pal. And what makes you think I want my boots on your face? WTF?! Are you off your meds again?
Those globalist assholes you refer to may call themselves “progressives”; but that’s a disgusting perversion of the term. There is nothing progressive about importing third-world savages to destroy Western civilization, so that a few soulless, short-sighted people can (very briefly) make lots of money and gain lots of power. That does not make the world a more enlightened, more humane, or more sustainable place.
CRUSADER says
Hmmmm…..
….maybe DE-PROGRAMMING would work instead!
Didn’t that work on the Nazis?
mortimer says
Yes, deprogramming is very effective, but you know nothing about it. You are a humiliation to the counterjihad and you do much harm. You appear to be unteachable and determined in your fascism.
CRUSADER says
Morte` !
What it is, dude !
Tell it as it is….
Move along, there, cheesecake.
You are far too idealistic for the world which is coming down hard like a freight train !
kuriakose says
Did it work on people like Majid Nawaz etc? Give us some proofs where your deprogramming actually worked.
In the meantime, all you can do is come down hard on people who have legitimate concerns. You have to defeat the globalist NWO, who already control many western governments.
Tell me how do you defeat evil? If I read the Bible, it is clear to me evil will always be here until Jesus comes back.
Limerick by U.S. Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes:
God’s plan made a hopeful beginning
But man spoiled his chances by sinning.
We trust that the story
Will end in God’s glory;
But at present the other side’s winning.
Savvy Kafir says
Mortimer, if all counter-jihadis embraced your fantasy of “deprogramming” Muslims, much of the West would become part of a new caliphate within a few generations.
Muslims have been kicking ass & conquering territory for 1400 years — except for those times & places where non-Muslims have fought back effectively. Resisting Islam successfully has never been accomplished by talking, or by teaching Muslims anything, or by convincing them of anything, other than the fact that they will be annihilated if they continue their aggressive behavior.
Since Muslims are so quick to employ violence to achieve their goals, we will have to resort to violence, or the threat of overwhelming violence, to effectively resist the spread of Islam. Muslims will have to be expelled from the West at gunpoint. If that does not happen, eventually they WILL rule the West, and the world will be plunged into a new Dark Age.
Devout Muslims cannot be reasoned with. They cannot be bargained with. And they cannot be controlled, once their numbers become great enough.
gravenimage says
Mortimer, how is questioning whether Muslims (or anyone) can be “deprogrammed” Fascism?
And I have asked you dozens of times now that if this “deprogramming” is indeed effective that you post *even one* testimonial from an ex-Muslim that you have deprogrammed them.
Even without the governmental backing that you say is necessary for this program to succed, surely you must have personally deprogrammed a *few* Muslims yourself, or else you would not claim that this is foolproof. They can post here using pseudonyms of they are understandably concerned about their safety. I hope to see some from you soon.
nicu says
In Germany we have the same situation ! Even when somebody says hekilled women and children in Africa he may stay here cos he might be sentenced in his home country . Afghans LIE that they were Taliban to stay here ! Trump doesn’t let criminals in – Merkel doesn’t let them out – and there are millions to come for good !
We are F*** !
Ravi says
I think Germany is already F*** ! Although 75 years have passed since Nazis were crushed, somehow even after full two generations, Germans are told to be ever apologetic and not raise their voice. You are responsible for your own fate. Current generation should say hell with Nazi past, and accept no culpability what so ever. Americans killed Native Indians / Brits killed hundreds and thousands during their colonial occupation / French killed many including thousands of Algerians / Islamic invaders butchered millions but somehow Germany still has to atone for its WWII sins and must make every effort to be not called ‘racist’.
Barb says
As Raad is an enemy of the country of Sweden, the Swedish Government has the greater responsibility of protecting genuine Swedish citizens.
One of the Sri Lankan Easter massacre Jihadists is reported to have said: ” “It is a sin to live in Dar Al Kufr, (a country with a non-Muslim majority)” and “Even if a Kaffir (non-Muslim) does good things, I hate him, because he is a non-believer [in Islam]”
1. As it is a sin for Muslim’s to live in non-Muslim countries – No Muslim should mind having their citizenship revoked, should they?
2. After revoking citizenships of all Muslim’s (helping them not to sin against their false god Allah) they can be resettled back in their Muslim countries!
3. As a Muslim Raad will have no problem being deported as he then will not be guilty of living in a non-muslim country!!
alex reid says
There are other Muslim majority countries he can go to. The hypocrisy of the Swedes is unbelievable! The guys wants you subjugated, enslaved & eventually killed off, FFS!!
gravenimage says
Sweden Can’t Deport Pro-ISIS Imam Because Iraq Would Execute Him
…………………………..
More suicidal insanity from Sweden.
Barb says
Why not deport Raad to another Muslim country – because Islam is a Nation – Islam doesn’t recognize Nations as such according to scholars – so Raad should be happy in any Muslim country, shouldn’t he??
gravenimage says
Good question.
abad says
Sweden should send him to Afghanistan.
Bygeorge says
Well then, do the world a favor. You execute him!
Curt Kingsbury says
Evidently they value a killer’s life more that those of their own citizens…!
Jaladhi says
And Sweden has a problem with on less murderer on this planet?? Obviously, they have totally lost their minds( err.. brains) they will have no problem he blows up Swedish citizens as a result of their decision!!
DHazard says
Back in the 80s and early 90s the U.S. had a huge extradition dispute with Canada over Charles Ng, who was charged with numerous murders in California. Ng and his partner Leonard Lake tortured and murdered many people including whole families with infants. In Cal. he faced the death penalty, something to which Canadians were deeply against. His whereabouts only became known after his arrest in Canada for shoplifting. But eventually the Canadians gave in probably because of the situation they were in, a known serial killer roaming about Canada and worse, Canada becoming a haven for foreign murderers.
The UK is now in a similar situation. Jihadists are not much more than glorified serial killers anyway.
CRUSADER says
In the late 60s and early 70s USA Americans who didn’t want to commit murder (in Vietnam and Cambodia) left for Canada….as a haven for that ilk, as well….
Mary says
Where is the proof that he will be executed?^
don vito says
Yes, kufrs should start with your excellent question! Cheers
Ade Fegan says
Sooooooooooo … Deport Pro-ISIS Imam Because Iraq Would Execute Him
Ade Fegan says
Sounds like a plan
James Lincoln says
Let me see if I understand this article correctly:
Abu Raad is a devout Muslim cleric who sympathizes with the Islamic state and has called for homosexual men to be executed.
Because of this, Sweden wants to legally deport him…
OK…
He migrated from Iraq to Sweden and is now facing a LEGAL deportation back to Iraq.
Logically, I see no reason why Sweden should not deport him.
What happens to him back in Iraq should be of no concern to Sweden.
Heather says
Sooooo, I don’t see a problem with it. Not Sweden’s problem. Note they are sooooooo very fond of killing, murder, blood etc. but the cowardly ba….ds they really are don’t want to die, well boohoo.
Lt Mason says
North Pole is nearby, send him there to proselytize the polar bears.
George says
Sorry all Western countries you are to late should have shut the door and stopped them long ago. Enoch Powell was right in the UK years ago shut them out we have enough. BUT TO LATE. WAS THE CRY
Bad Penguin says
How many Christian Swedes will have to die over this liberal progressive stupidity?
don vito says
I have an answer, but by reading JW you already know it. But thanks for making the point. (all kufr).
J D.S says
If this imam believes in, preached and teaches what the Koran says…Then send him back to Iraq…EXPRESS!
Well Swedeistan will not do it.
Andy says
Sweden! Execute him yourselves! Why should Iraq get the credit!
Savvy Kafir says
A bullet is a lot cheaper than a plane ticket.
CRUSADER says
EXCELLENT
Dean says
GOOD who gives a shit! They deserve nothing less… not only that they’re are ok murdering others or their own kind but yet he’s worried that Iraq is going to kill him? Sound more like a sympathy vote!!!
I’m getting so pissed off with governments believing bullshit like this.
REMOVE THEM FROM OUR COUNTRIES NOW!!!