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UK: Council candidate under fire for burning Qur’an in pub during heated debate

Apr 16, 2019 3:00 pm By Robert Spencer

I’m never in favor of burning books. It was the Nazis who made the practice famous, and emulating the Nazis is never a good idea. Also, the Left today is engaged in a large-scale effort to silence perspectives that dissent from their own, and that insidious effort could mean the total destruction of free societies. The antidote to bad speech is not the shutdown of the offensive speech, but more speech: discussion and debate, which generally Leftists and Islamic spokesmen shy away from, because they know their positions are intellectually weak and that they would not be able to win a debate.

Also, I believe it is important to know the beliefs and understand the ideology of those who are making war against free societies. People should not burn, but read and understand, the Qur’an.

This incident, however, took place in shattered, staggering, dhimmi Britain. Would Frankie Rufolo be under fire and have been reported to police if he had burned a Bible? What do you think?

“Election candidate, 19, set fire to Quran in Exeter pub during heated debate,” by Alex Richards, Devon Live, April 13, 2019 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):

An ‘atheist activist’ standing for election in Exeter shocked punters at a city pub by setting a copy of the Quran on fire.

The incident, condemned by city leaders, happened at a heated ‘after party’ in the Old Fire House pub following Katie Hopkins’ visit to the University of Exeter – where he had been handing out flyers.

Frankie Rufolo, 19, admits the inflammatory and offensive act and has been left to question whether it was a step too far, even for him.

The copy of the Quran, the central religious book of Islam, was burned with a candle during a heated political debate….

Mr Rufolo, currently campaigning to be a councillor in St Thomas representing the ‘For Britain Movement’, explained: “It was 90 per cent white, left wingers and even some right wingers.

“They were saying all the usual rubbish and it descended into nonsense. I was holding up the Quran and calling it evil.

“They were defending Shamima Begum and effectively calling me a racist.

“I lost my patience a bit, this was after a long night, and it was just to make a point that I am not afraid to say what I think.

“I see Islam as a threat to freedom of speech in this country.

“You need to do something ‘out there’ and provocative, I do lose patience when some people are defensive of a religion which is oppressive.”

When questioned by Devon Live on whether he thinks any point he wished to make has been over-ridden by his actions, he answered: “You do have to be outspoken sometimes. Obviously some stuff can be counter productive.

“I will have a think about whether it was counter productive.”

The Quran which was burned is owned by Mr Rufolo, who says he carries it in his bag wherever he goes and can even “recite passages from memory.”

Mr Rufolo, who has lived in Exeter all his life, said: “It is no secret that I am critical of Islam as an ideology in particular. Some people will want to demonise me because of that.”

He says he is not associated with the Far Right, despite his beliefs about religion: “To be clear I describe myself as an Atheist activist. I dislike religious ideas but I find many religious people to be nice.

“Being an LGBT atheist the Quran says a lot worse about me than I can say about it. It is my private property and I can do with it what I like.

“I criticise the book Twilight by Stephanie Meyer, which some believe contains Mormon ideology, but it doesn’t mean I hate all teenagers that are fans of it.

“I meet people in Exeter who are gay and ex Muslims, it is sad how casually their family now hate them. We’re demonised and called bigots and far right all time, but I am trying to give minorities within minorities a voice.”…

He was recently reported to police following an incident where he labelled the Quran a ‘book of evil’ at a debating society event at Wetherspoons pub The Imperial.

The case was later dropped by those offended by his remarks, thought to have been university students at the debating event.

“A lot of University of Exeter students have gone on to be politicians and I am quite worried about people in cabinet being dead against free speech.

“At the end of the day offence is subjective, this is a free country and if you want to live here you have to live with being offended sometimes. I see Muslims as equals so I expect them to live with offence as I do. ”

He says he is also vocally against branches of Christianity, including Catholicism and the Church of England….

MP Ben Bradshaw said: “Exeter is a friendly and tolerant city and there should be no place here for hateful, racist or islamophobic behaviour of this kind.”…

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  1. Walter Sieruk says

    Apr 16, 2019 at 3:05 pm

    It’s far better to expose the many errors of the Quran than to burn that religious book.

    So since the very foundation of and for Islam is the Quran ,this leads to very important question: “Is the Quran the Word of God or is it a fabrication of a man. Thus, is the Quran the truth or a fiction and a hoax ?” The answer is clearly given on pages 145 through 157 in THE ISLAMIC INVASION by Robert Morey in which he wrote a section on the Quran with its self-contradictions. Just two of the many he cited are the following “The Quran differs on whether a day is a thousand years or fifty thousand years in God’s sight’ and “Who was first to believe? Abraham or Moses [Sura 6:14 versus 7:143]? The above is inconsistent and illogical. Further, Morey wrote about “The fact that Judaism and Christianity broke up into different sects was used in the Quran to prove that they are not of God [Suras 30:20-32. 42:13, 14]. Yet Islam has broken up into many warring sects and therefore cannot be true if the Quran is right.” Moreover, Morey in his book shows many more contradictions and absurdities in the Quran, there are and how Muhammad incorporated extra Biblical and Jewish folklore along with pre-Islamic Arabian myth and parts of Zoroastrian and Hindu stories into the Quran. Furthermore, the Muslims claim that “the Quran is the direct, literal word of God unmodified in any way by the Prophet who uttered them at the bidding of God.” Nevertheless, in the book UNVEILING ISLAM by Ergun Mehmet Caner and Eethi Caner has shown that the Quran was modified in the following account on pages 45. “Muhammad felt the need to improve on the words of Allah, since he changed Allah’s wisdom for his own on several occasions. A hadith tells of the nonchalant emendations of Muhammad:’ On a number of occasions he [a scribe] had, with the Prophet’s consent changed the closing words of verses. For example, when the prophet had said ‘God is mighty and wise ‘ Adbollah b. Abi Sarh suggested writing down ‘Knowing and wise’ and the Prophet answered that there was no objection. Having observed a succession of changes of this type, Adbollah renounced Islam on the grounds that revelations, if from God could not be changed at the prompting of a scribe such as himself. After his apostasy he went to Mecca and joined the Qorayshites.’ Other writers reveal that later Muhammad and his people did go war with the Qorayshites and he personally killed Abdollah. Obviously Abdollah knew too much and Muhammad wanted Abdollah’s knowledge to die with him.” In conclusion, the Quran is not only a fiction, it’s also a hoax.

    Even though the above essay was posted before, it should now be added that the last statement of the above that “the Quran is not only a fiction, it’s also a hoax.” To put this in a Biblical way. As in from the Bible, it may be truly explained that the Quran is a deceptive work of “the cunning and craftiness of men in their deceitful scheming.” Ephesians 14:12.. [N.I.V.]

    • CRUSADER says

      Apr 16, 2019 at 7:26 pm

      Quite rather “Shaytanic”, don’t you think?

      Just enough “spirituality” and “divinity” to hoodwink the masses….
      ….while excusing the booty calls of the mujahid….

  2. elee says

    Apr 16, 2019 at 3:08 pm

    He burned the best witness ever against Islam! I encourage every kafir to read it.

    • underbed cat says

      Apr 16, 2019 at 10:07 pm

      Good point, it is the best witness to expose the nature.

      • Jak says

        Apr 18, 2019 at 8:25 am

        As long as there is one muslim or one copy of the quran there will be no peace

  3. CogitoErgoSum says

    Apr 16, 2019 at 3:34 pm

    If he bought and paid for the book he should be able to do with it as he pleases, including burning it. It’s not as if his was the only copy of the Quran in the world. Of course, they could charge him with something like illegal burning or air pollution so just tossing it into the trash might be best.

    • keith says

      Apr 16, 2019 at 5:40 pm

      No no no, the Quran comes in two ply for a reason!

      • CRUSADER says

        Apr 16, 2019 at 7:21 pm

        Which is smoother and more comforting for the ass-whiping?

        The Meccan or the Medinan verses?

        https://www.ispot.tv/ad/w34c/quilted-northern-robes

        • CRUSADER says

          Apr 16, 2019 at 7:22 pm

          Crafted for Greatness !

        • keith says

          Apr 18, 2019 at 3:10 am

          Good question,,,suppose I’ll have to try em both, in the interests of science of course!

    • Najwa Laylah says

      Apr 19, 2019 at 4:15 pm

      The best alternative to burning flags is to scrub them publicly, on a sidewalk for instance, to symbolically cleanse the places, persons, or things they represent of what besmirches them. Bonus: cleaner sidewalk, if you do it right.

      I’m sure there’s some similar non-combustive way to deal with your own copy of a book the contents of which disgust you. I’ve seen some remarkable drawings for sale done on pages of old books, for instance. But ultimately, paper is paper and there are many ways to turn the bad to the good– in the end, it can be composted.

  4. Diane Harvey says

    Apr 16, 2019 at 3:53 pm

    “I’m never in favor of burning books.”

    While I understand that point, this candidate/debater did it to make his point which, among others, is that there is nothing beyond dispute or discussion, most particularly the ideas that undergird Islam.

    What’s more, he burned his own Qur’an, and among the freedoms we have is the right to dispose of your property as you see fit. In the case of the Nazis, they burned the property of others, not their own.

    • mortimer says

      Apr 16, 2019 at 5:33 pm

      He was showing his contempt for the Koran … fair enough. I don’t like the burning of any book.

      The Koran can be excoriated with words sufficiently.

      THE KORAN is: a troop motivator, a Machiavellian hoax concocted by Arab dictators for the benefit of their own emolument and power, a plagiarized text that is self-referentially incoherent, ungrammatical, illogical and unhistorical, incomprehensible in the original text, a racist manifesto of hatred towards non-Arabs, a solicitation of murder, an anti-Semitic hate text, an anti-Christian death warrant, an extortionist’s manual, a justification for slavery, pedophilia, polygamy, rape and violence against women. The Koran appears to be the rantings of a schizophrenic. There isn’t a single useful idea in it, and much that is in it is obviously erroneous, stupid and morally repugnant. It preaches implacable hatred and endless world war against non-Muslims until victory. So long as there is this book, there will be no peace in the world. The viciousness of the Koran cannot be edited out of it for it is alleged to be the perfect, complete and eternal words of Allah, even though these words are absurd, irrational and amoral.

      • CRUSADER says

        Apr 16, 2019 at 7:19 pm

        Veritas.

      • J_not_a says

        Apr 16, 2019 at 8:12 pm

        Well, he did pick the Old Firehouse Pub to burn it in, so there’s that, lol.

        • CRUSADER says

          Apr 16, 2019 at 11:49 pm

          Leaving things quite a-flame, indeed.

      • Demsci says

        Apr 16, 2019 at 8:49 pm

        There is so much information and explanation in this statement. Wow! You know so much Mortimer! I think you referred to Abd Al Malik, caliph 685-705, who rather “formalized” Islam. As explained in Roberts book “Did Muhammed Exist?” Which was fascinating and corroborated by Tom Hollands book about Islam’s origins. Jay Smith on youtube also explains these origins very well. He says: “Attack the man and the book” but, but, not out of spite, but especially to let the truth be known. And let Islam really, on the basis of truth, compete with other religions or beliefs for the adherence of men.

        In this context; Mortimer, the “book” may continue to exist, in museums perhaps, but it is our hope that in future ever more Muslims leave their faith, until Islam is a small manageable cult.

        • Demsci says

          Apr 16, 2019 at 8:50 pm

          Rather for the adherence of man (kind).

      • Demsci says

        Apr 16, 2019 at 9:07 pm

        In your excellent “summary/ review” you point out the flaws of the Quran. These are exacerbated by the Sira and Hadiths. Perhaps we could say that the whole of the sacred texts, which are a finite identifiable collection, the trilogy, are a mess.

        Now, we can recognize that Muslims are mostly fine humans, of which Islam is only one aspect.

        As to these core or sacred texts; the Muslims have as tenet that they are Divine and clear, in a good way.

        Now we as critics can go 2 ways; 1. Islam is clear but in a bad dangerousway. 2. Islam is unclear, but precisely because of that also dangerous, because prone to violent anti democratic interpretation.

        Position 1 affirms Muslims belief in clarity of core texts and thus some respect for them.

        Position 2 is like your post, it has contempt for their low level of clarity, consistency, with its mistakes etc.

        and moreover it acknowledges that even if the core texts were uniformly understandable in the same way, still interpretation of them by many-faceted different Muslims in different lands must vary. Like in “if the texts are PREscriptive or now only DEscriptive”. And it is important to note that this UMMAH has no authoritative leadership about interpretations.

        It argues that Islam is useless for Muslims and mankind, unworthy of any God. A Hoax with its promise of Heaven. And in 2nd place dangerous because of interpretations all over the place (of the core texts), including those which incite to violence and lead to anti-democratic positions..

      • underbed cat says

        Apr 16, 2019 at 10:21 pm

        Mortimer, I say….wow….excellent, complete description and explanation of the amoral, dangerous book from every angle.

        • Twerzig says

          Apr 17, 2019 at 9:53 am

          You Sir are very learned.
          But who is this The the Lah God.
          He seems very powerful.
          Why Sir is he not
          taught of in Schools?.

      • Heather says

        Apr 17, 2019 at 5:49 pm

        Could be the perfect, complete and eternal words of Allah, if Allah was Satan.

  5. Halal Bacon says

    Apr 16, 2019 at 4:00 pm

    it’s not a book, it is satan’s manual for the destruction of humanity, so let it burn

  6. Dilbert says

    Apr 16, 2019 at 4:02 pm

    So why doesn’t anyone get upset when the muslims burn The Holy Bible? How did a country that once ruled over much of the world fall so low as to be governed by a pack of new age snowflake wimps? Next they will be arresting women who complain about being raped by muslims and permanently close churches that complain about muslims trying murder the Christians worshiping!

  7. Michael Copeland says

    Apr 16, 2019 at 4:12 pm

    “MP Ben Bradshaw said: “Exeter is a friendly and tolerant city…””
    Memo to Mr. Bradshaw:
    Islam is not a tolerant or friendly ideology.

    “If anyone desires a religion other than Islam, never will it be accepted of him;”
    Koran 3:85, part of Islamic law

    “Jews and Christians are filthy. Their lives and property can be taken in jihad by the muslims.”
    Yaser Qadhi, Tennessee

    • Michael Copeland says

      Apr 16, 2019 at 4:28 pm

      “My religion does not tolerate other religions . It does not tolerate” – Imam Abu Bakr, Australia

  8. kimmer111 says

    Apr 16, 2019 at 4:33 pm

    I’m TOTALLY in favour of getting RID of the koran once and for all!!!

    • peter says

      Apr 16, 2019 at 9:43 pm

      Can you tell me how you plan to it ?

      • PRCS says

        Apr 17, 2019 at 1:18 pm

        Thank you, for that!

        How that book (of which there might be a billion in print) can be gotten rid of seems never to occur to those who advocate for that.
        What if the owner of a Qur’an in, say, Saudi Arabia says, “No, I’m not getting rid of mine”?
        Its contents are ingrained in people’s minds. Some participate in Qur’an memorization contests.
        Anyone can read it online.

  9. FYI says

    Apr 16, 2019 at 4:34 pm

    I don’t agree with burning books.

    Recycle them instead:give Worms the food they need and put the paper in a Composter.

    It’s good for the environment and allah will be pleased with infidels…

    • Savvy Kafir says

      Apr 16, 2019 at 4:42 pm

      Using Qur’ans for compost does sound a lot more eco-friendly than burning them; but it doesn’t have the same visual impact, if you’re trying to make a statement.

      • J_not_a says

        Apr 16, 2019 at 7:47 pm

        Shredding for kitty boxes or bird cage lining is also a good use for Mo’s musings once read.

    • b.a. freeman says

      Apr 16, 2019 at 5:26 pm

      good suggestion, FYI!

      have U ever seen a time-lapse photo sequence of a plant growing shown as a video? U could do something similar with a quran. first, the quran appears, opened just about anywhere to expose some putrid, hate-filled rant of muhammed’s sock puppet, allah. next, a turd appears on it, or perhaps we could watch it being slowly released as an unseen (for his own safety) individual defecates onto it, followed by dirt being heaped on top of the turd. finally, we see a time-lapse sequence as living plant grows from the filth.

      other than teaching my fellow kuffars about islam or using it as a**wipe, i couldn’t think of a better use of a quran!

      • CRUSADER says

        Apr 16, 2019 at 7:18 pm

        I read the Book of Mormon on a long flight once….it put me to sleep.
        Did the same with the Koran, too.

        Main thoughts were that both seemed made up by Frat Boys from using excuses for booty and gold using fantastical imagination and previous fabric from scriptures of other religious weight.

        • J_not_a says

          Apr 16, 2019 at 7:42 pm

          I’ve read quite a few books in my 64 years but the holey cowran has the sole distinction of being the only one of both horrific and monotonous.

  10. Hugh Fitzgerald says

    Apr 16, 2019 at 4:39 pm

    Exustiolibrorum, burning of books, plays into Muslim hands. Instead, Mr. Rufolo could have read aloud Qur’anic verses, s-l-o-w-l-y. E.g., 2:191-193, 3:151,4:34, 4:89, 5:33, 8:12, 8:60, 9:5, 9:29, 47:4, 98:6. Much more effective.

    • Hugh Fitzgerald says

      Apr 16, 2019 at 5:00 pm

      Though I enjoy making up words — my hapax legomena have been etched on walls in twenty-seven countries — exustiolibrorum was perhaps a jape too far. So, on second thought, I think “exustio librorum” is better.

      Now back to the matter at hand: How Best To Handle The Qur’an. I suggest reading it, straight through,accompanied by Robert Spencer’s Blogging the Qur’an, then reading it again, then reading it to find the 120 verses that are especially disturbing, then reading those verses aloud to all and sundry..

      • gravenimage says

        Apr 16, 2019 at 6:30 pm

        +1

      • CRUSADER says

        Apr 16, 2019 at 7:12 pm

        Would you recommend a copy by Tommy Robinson or by Bill Warner’s Center for Study of Political Islam’s “Simple Koran”?

        Reading it in order of Mecca and Medina verses sure helps with understanding things….

        • eduardo odraude says

          Apr 17, 2019 at 1:32 pm

          Robinson and his co-author are more or less under siege, so I’d recommend his version.

      • awake says

        Apr 16, 2019 at 10:00 pm

        +2

    • CRUSADER says

      Apr 16, 2019 at 7:14 pm

      read aloud Qur’anic verses, s-l-o-w-l-y. E.g., 2:191-193, 3:151,4:34, 4:89, 5:33, 8:12, 8:60, 9:5, 9:29, 47:4, 98:6. Much more effective.

      THERE YOU HAVE IT!!!
      (Similar to carving out and pasting the key verses of “scripture”, as Thomas Jefferson had done for the US Congress)

    • PRCS says

      Apr 17, 2019 at 1:34 pm

      To make a statement, yes, passages should be read from one’s personal Qur’an.

      And to then make clear how much it disgusts, and how irrelevant Islam’s blasphemy laws are to western kuffar—-burn it.

      Better, yet: buy several copies and repeat.

      It’s not like there aren’t a billion or so other copies available in print; not to mention its worldwide presence online.

  11. James Lincoln says

    Apr 16, 2019 at 4:45 pm

    I am far more interested in the reaction that he gets for burning the Koran rather than the fact that he burned the Koran.

    It was his Koran. If he wants to dispose of it in that way, as long as it does not cause a fire hazard / annoying air pollution to bystanders, let him have at it.

    • Angry Aussie says

      Apr 16, 2019 at 6:19 pm

      Me too. Let’s watch the number of riots, acid attacks and church burnings rise, as a starting response, even though we know in advance that they are only ever carried out by mentally ill people.

      • Barb says

        Apr 16, 2019 at 7:13 pm

        A psychiatrist in New Zealand said on TV following the Christchurch Massacre that it was wrong of the media to say that terrorists were “mentally ill” because it wrongs those who genuinely have mental health issues – too true!

        • CRUSADER says

          Apr 16, 2019 at 7:29 pm

          “Being an LGBT atheist the Quran says a lot worse about me than I can say about it.”

          The latter attribute is what differentiates him from Irshad Manji, one can suppose….

        • James Lincoln says

          Apr 16, 2019 at 9:39 pm

          Barb,

          That particular psychiatrist is “mostly” correct. Most terrorists are, in fact, not “mentally ill” from a clinical point of view, although a relatively small percentage are.

          Also, most people who are, in fact, mentally ill – and are receiving proper treatment – are not particularly violent, although a relatively small percentage are.

      • J_not_a says

        Apr 17, 2019 at 6:57 pm

        Rather, use the term “mentally disturbed”

  12. Savvy Kafir says

    Apr 16, 2019 at 5:17 pm

    As an American member & enthusiastic supporter of the For Britain party, I have mixed feelings about this candidate burning a Qur’an.

    On the Not-So-Great side of the ledger: 1) It MIGHT have a net/overall negative effect for the For Britain party, and for the anti-Islam movement in general. 2) I’m generally not too keen on the idea of book-burning. 3) As others have stated, reading & quoting from the Qur’an might be more effective.

    On the other hand… 1) Frankie Rufolo probably did plenty of reading & quoting from the Qur’an, before he lit this one up. 2) This incident has no doubt raised public awareness of the For Britain party – which gets ignored by the mainstream media (except when it’s being vilified) and denied public venues, etc. 3) At this point, plenty of patriotic Brits (and potential For Britain supporters elsewhere) probably have no problem with someone burning this particular book. 5) The act of publicly burning a Qur’an is a bold one; and we need far more boldness in the global resistance to Islam. And 6) Torching a Qur’an must be pretty satisfying, since it pisses off Muslims so VERY much. And they’ve surely got it coming.

    BTW: I’m very impressed by the fact that this anti-Islam activist & political candidate is only 19 years old. If only I had been that aware & on the ball at 19! Or at 29, for that matter.

    • CRUSADER says

      Apr 16, 2019 at 7:10 pm

      Good thing the “kid” is starting out so early….he has a lot more copies to burn!!!!!

    • Barb says

      Apr 16, 2019 at 7:18 pm

      Hopefully Frankie Rufolo will be catapaulted into Council with an overwhelming majority of votes!
      A Councillor / future Mayor who knows the tactics of the ideology of Islam would be a huge plus for his constituents!

      • Savvy Kafir says

        Apr 16, 2019 at 9:43 pm

        Agreed! Let’s hope so!

        That would also be a nice poke in the eye for the PC idiots in the mainstream media (and Wikipedia, etc.) who brand For Britain as a “far right, fringe party”, and who do all they can to discredit & squash it.

  13. tonypearson says

    Apr 16, 2019 at 6:09 pm

    The British MP making phoney moral statements in this case is Ben Bradshaw. Non UK readers will be unaware that he is a gay man in a civil partnership. This poor deluded fellow has taken the standard Labour Left position of siding with a religion that given the chance would kill him.

    • gravenimage says

      Apr 16, 2019 at 6:48 pm

      Thanks for the background information.

  14. gravenimage says

    Apr 16, 2019 at 6:11 pm

    UK: Council candidate under fire for burning Qur’an in pub during heated debate

    This incident, however, took place in shattered, staggering, dhimmi Britain. Would Frankie Rufolo be under fire and have been reported to police if he had burned a Bible?
    …………………….

    Really, that question says it all.

    I’m not a fan of burning books, either–this is bad symbolism.

    That being said, assuming it was his own Qur’an and did not belong to someone else, why would the *police* be called? Is there Shari’ah law in Britain now?

    • underbed cat says

      Apr 16, 2019 at 10:32 pm

      Yes I think they have been following it as they arrest people for truthful free speech, with jail time….who here has not heard about Tommy Robinson trying to warn Briton but was thrown in jail. Unbelievable at first but it has happened, to appease the riled up religion of no peace.

      • Michael Copeland says

        Apr 17, 2019 at 2:28 am

        “No peace can be made between us and the non-believers.
        This what our holy book says. This what Allah says.” 
        Yusuf al Qaradawi,
        spiritual adviser to the Muslim Brotherhood
        http://www.watson37.com

  15. sheliak says

    Apr 16, 2019 at 6:14 pm

    I take it that burning a single Koran is a greater offense to muslims than the burning of Notre Dame cathedral is offensive to Christians.

    • J_not_a says

      Apr 16, 2019 at 7:56 pm

      Ultra PC islamophilic dhimmified Britain will no doubt be taking the view that the burning or destruction of one’s own copy of a Koran as a “hate crime” and to be charged and punished accordingly.

  16. Angry Aussie says

    Apr 16, 2019 at 6:17 pm

    I am in favour of burning that book. If I were in the UK, and in his electorate, I would vote for him. Guaranteed.

    If nothing more, he has gained the attention of many.

    In a show of support and in rememberance of Islamic reaction to Salam Rushdie’s book, The Satanic Verses, and the bon fires around the world, I would be more than happy to donate to the pile for this one.

    • CRUSADER says

      Apr 16, 2019 at 7:06 pm

      But you wouldn’t want to see Tommy Robinson’s “Quran” burned, now would you?

  17. ntesdorf says

    Apr 16, 2019 at 6:58 pm

    On the 25th year of the hijra (647), During the Caliphate of Uthman, many Muslims in different regions were arguing that they can recite the Qur’an better, and they had differences between them.
    Upon hearing this, Caliph Uthman is said to have ordered the burning of both fragmentary manuscripts and whole copies of the Qur’an[9] and sent a message to Hafsa, one of Muhammad’s wives, requesting the manuscripts she had in her possession. Making a codex from what Zayd bin Thabit had originally compiled. He then issued it. Later on Caliph Abdul-al-Malik is said to have done much the same thing, all over again, dumping unwanted Qur’an versions in the river.
    Qur’an burning and destroying is very old sport.

    • CRUSADER says

      Apr 16, 2019 at 7:08 pm

      How old was Hafsa in the year 25?
      Maybe as old as 35? Or is that stretching it?

  18. CRUSADER says

    Apr 16, 2019 at 7:05 pm

    Why not do what Jefferson did with the New Testament: carve out the wondrously peaceable parts of the Queeran….and then burn the rest (the nasty parts) as discarded chaff….

    That’d be similar to Muslim Reform, wouldn’t it be?

    Anyway, cheers! to the burn.

    • J_not_a says

      Apr 16, 2019 at 8:26 pm

      “Peaceful” parts of the holey cowran? What would that be – two pages? Lol is that a stretch?

  19. Indiana Tom says

    Apr 16, 2019 at 7:35 pm

    He says he is also vocally against branches of Christianity, including Catholicism and the Church of England…
    But they usually do throw LGBTs from the top of tall buildings..

    • Savvy Kafir says

      Apr 16, 2019 at 9:37 pm

      No doubt he is MORE opposed to Islam than to Christianity — for the same reasons as many other godless foes of Islam, myself included. And, in his case, there’s the additional threat of being murdered by homophobic Muslims, which I’m sure he’s aware of.

      Although some of the more politically correct atheists still defend Islam & Muslims for some perverse reason, fortunately there are some non-religious types — both progressives & conservatives — who see Islam for what it is: a religious/ political/ legal & cultural system that promotes medieval barbarism & savagery, and poses a grave threat to human rights, free societies, & women’s fashion. Those people probably won’t show up at your church barbeque; but they do have your back when dealing with the Muslim enemy.

      From my own perspective, I can sum it up like this: I’d like to see more Christians learn to be skeptical of religious faith, of their own accord, just as I did myself. That’s it. That’s all. On the other hand, I’d like to see all Muslims expelled from the West at gunpoint. Islam poses a unique threat, and requires a unique solution.

  20. awake says

    Apr 16, 2019 at 10:49 pm

    Robert is being diplomatic here, but he is entirely correct. Burning the Qur’an does nothing to offset the affect of Islam globally. It is truly an affliction, a historical plague on the world. This chap espouses that he burned the Qur’an because it is so “intolerant”, because he can recite it from memory based on his extensive exegesis of the war doctrine. Islamic doctrine needs to be read, explored, examined and critically commented on. Not burned.

    I don’t believe him. Do you? Rufalo appears to be in his salad days, espousing talking points to support a political agenda. Given the current state of the dead western European continent, (eastern Europe is improving, albeit at an apparent glacial pace), and assuming on face value that he indeed studied the doctrine of Islam, the collective trinity of abject evil in the Qur’an, Hadith and Sira, burning a portion of the doctrine seems on its face as a perfectly reasonable response to the horror of the revelation of actually reading Islam’s plan contextually, as a whole. Any sentient non-Muslim should, and would be, horrified. But is is indeed a mistake. Islamic doctrine, as supported by the abhorrent actions of Muslims world-wide needs to be exposed and documented, and the correlation by historical and modern day Islam, not burned.

    That was the purpose of Jihad Watch, post 9-11. I personally owe an debt of gratitude I cannot repay to Robert in this regard. Hugh is certainly no slouch either. He emboldens the atheist principle who can, did, and will continue to avoid the normative trappings of religious moral equivalency inherent in atheists. The nom de plume will continue to identify the unique threat that Islam poses to our existence. For that, my gratitude is also offered without hesitation.

  21. somehistory says

    Apr 16, 2019 at 11:17 pm

    Unless he stole the unholy book, or he endangered someone with the candle, he committed no wrong. And he is right…islam is evil.

    Has he been banned from the pub? Some years ago a guy who tore the filthy book was banned from a ball field.

    The time is coming, and coming fast, when the entire world of mankind will understand just what islam is. And it will be destroyed, brought to its end forever.

  22. James Cameron says

    Apr 17, 2019 at 2:44 am

    Mo *was* whiter than white, so obviously burning Mein Koran is a terrible thing to do: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZxH4QYLRQY

  23. Martin says

    Apr 17, 2019 at 2:58 am

    “The case was later dropped by those offended by his remarks…”

    That idea that causing “offence” is a crime and the police must get involved is ridiculous.

    The 19-year-old Quran burner of Exeter had it right when he said:

    “At the end of the day offence is subjective, this is a free country and if you want to live here you have to live with being offended sometimes. I see Muslims as equals so I expect them to live with offence as I do.”

    Of course the local (and spineless) MP, Ben Bradshaw, couldn’t stray from the safety of Political Correctness when he said:

    “Exeter is a friendly and tolerant city and there should be no place here for hateful, racist or islamophobic behaviour of this kind.”

    If you’re gay, like the Quran burner, you’d be hard pressed to find anything more hateful about gays than what is written in the Quran. Getting mad at this gay man for burning the Quran is like getting mad a a Jew for burning Hitler’s autobiobraphy “Mein Kampf”.

  24. Erl Roe says

    Apr 17, 2019 at 4:38 am

    I find the often quoted comment that one should not follow the example of Hitler’s followers burning books at his request … But the question that should be asked regarding the Nazi burning of books … ” what were the books that were requested to be burnt? I personally have the Koran in 2 forms and even though i do not beleive in its content I have no interest in burning them…But if it is true what was burnt in Germany in the 1930’s was pornography as I understand it was what then what would you say?

  25. Minas says

    Apr 17, 2019 at 6:39 am

    He should have used it to line his kitty’ litter box.

  26. John Lloyd Scharf says

    Apr 17, 2019 at 11:32 am

    Never burn a Quran or Muhammadan flag.You can only do it once. Suspend them in urine like they did to the image of Christ on a Cross.

  27. eduardo odraude says

    Apr 17, 2019 at 1:38 pm

    Instead of burning it, rewrite it in satirical form. Or do an illustrated version. Or create a graphic novel about someone reading it. Etc.

    • Giacomo Latta says

      Apr 17, 2019 at 10:28 pm

      The koran is so absurd that mocking it is so hard to do. The problem is so many people are ignorant of its contents.

  28. PRCS says

    Apr 17, 2019 at 1:44 pm

    Those of all political stripes need to understand and acknowledge that Islam is NOT a warm and fuzzy ‘progressive’ ideology.

    It is a very far right theocracy.

    • eduardo odraude says

      Apr 17, 2019 at 1:58 pm

      That’s a good point. Perhaps the best label, the one that might waken a few more people on the left anyway, is “extreme far right”.

      • PRCS says

        Apr 17, 2019 at 3:06 pm

        Yes, even better.
        Thank you.

  29. PRCS says

    Apr 17, 2019 at 3:27 pm

    The works of Bosch Fawstin
    http://fawstin.blogspot.com/

    and

    Sheik Yer’ Mami (Winds of Jihad)
    http://sheikyermami.com/

    are interesting.

    Here’s a Winds of Jihad cartoon video:
    https://archive.org/details/TheIslamicJihadSong

  30. Giacomo Latta says

    Apr 17, 2019 at 10:26 pm

    ”I see Islam as a threat to freedom of speech in this country.”
    If Mr. Rufolo had even the slightest doubt of the veracity of his opinion then corporate islam and its leftist useful idiots have quickly put an end to it.

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