As the JihadWatch YouTube channel was one of the first to suffer being shadowbanned, I won’t be losing any sleep over Alphabet’s losses, but the fact is they are increasingly becoming irrelevant, they needed to shadowban us, as browsers seeing our content for the first time on all of Alphabets platforms were attracted to it, this site was always highly viral on social media and search engines till February 2017. Governments, media and hate groups such as the SPLC, along with the mainstream media told them what to do. Examples from Google and Facebook and they did it. Of course, they didn’t stop there, they started outright banning, deplatforming, and demonetizing more and more popular content creators, alternative views and others guilty of wrongthink.
I recently migrated Robert Spencer’s video chanel over to Bit.Tube in the expectation of complete removal in the near future.
Timcast does a great summary here:
“Youtube Gets Woke Goes Broke Loses 70 BILLION DOLLARS!!!”
original article here at CNBC
CRUSADER says
“Die Luft der Freiheit weht”
Marketplace should dictate matters of choice, not the Orwellian false-justice gatekeeping hypocrites!!
One reason I started posting at JW was in support of it, as it along with other promoters of free thought were becoming under scrutiny of false-virtue censorship.
LET FREEDOM RING !
(And,…. Stanford, ….let the winds of freedom blow!)
mummymovie says
BIG UP YASELF, CRUSADER!!!
Everyone should join in the exodus from YouTube/Google/Gmail, and all of these oppressive, censorship-policied, megalithic, monopolistic, globalist, transgressive/fascist hard-left, jihad/hijra-enabling sites, services, platforms, apps, etc. like Farcebook, Instaphlagm, and eventually even the trickiest of them all, Amazon and Apple (These are gonna be a little tougher).
Out with the old, I say, nonetheless!
We must liberate ourselves from “the Cloud”.
Bill says
Absolutely. All of what is happening is by design. It is not inept management or rogue employees. A competing industry is developing and that is where folks should be going. 2020 is going to be very difficult if people are not now finding and supporting other avenues to obtain facts, news, and opinion, that is not the product of the global media oligarchy.
CRUSADER says
You sound like one of those hippies who 50 years ago said,
“Stop the world, I want to get off.”
So, you want to EXIT, but to where?
Do you have a solution?
Are you starting your own platform? computer system? media program?
It’s fine and dandy just to say “Out! Out!” but where will you go?
mummymovie says
In light of recent events, pal, it’s lookin as though you soon may not have much of a choice.
marc says
@CRUSADER said “Do you have a solution?”
I don’t have one, GAB and all the other startups catering to the “right wing” and others guilty of “wrongthink” have similar problems to any proprietary system, they are that, owned by someone who either mismanges it or will hit a scalability issues.
There are answers out there though, Bit.Tube is built on open source software, and runs on a distributed network. to replace twitter and facebook, is diasporafoundation.org and mastodon.social both very viable, but as no one owns them there is no reward to ownership, i notice antifa have started moving over to them, the “swingers’ and japanese comic “art” people have done for a long time.
each smaller community has their own host server, so we could have our own here, and we would have connectivity with lots of others, families might have their own, it’s far more organic, but there is just no interest from the “right”.
Yokel says
“ Amazon … (These are gonna be a little tougher).”
The next stage of the war will move to Amazon. Many of the smaller free speech advocating alternatives are hosted on Amazon (AWS) instances.
What would happen if two men in suits, carrying the government equivalent of a violin case, turned up at Amazon HQ and said something like “Nice little business you’ve got here Mr Besos. It would be a real shame if something stopped it from connecting to the internet wouldn’t it? Your servers have got one or two unhelpful pieces of information or unsuitable web sites on them. We can rely on you to sort it out, can’t we?”
If everyone moves to distributed storage on servers at home, it will be amazing. Those long enough in the tooth may remember this story:
https://tallbloke.wordpress.com/2011/12/14/tallbloke-towers-raided-many-computers-taken/
with another start point here:
https://noconsensus.wordpress.com/2011/12/14/crackdown-shooting-in-the-dark/
It was part of the Climategate affair, you may remember:
https://www.theregister.co.uk/Tag/climategate
Or put another way, Mr Plod will apply the heavy handed “frighteners” against anyone stupid enough to administer a “dissident” web site from home, let alone to host it! Get your information now while you can. It won’t be available for much longer.
Oh wait! This is a WordPress blog, just as Tallbloke’s was!
Dave says
They Just lost 10% . No big deal
marc says
I think only 8%, but their shareholders will be livid
Mac-101 says
Unfortunetly THESE HIgh Tech scumbags git untold of money from the NSA/CIA and who knows who else so THEY will NOT be goin broke anytime soon. . Just perfecting THEIR Orwellian control for THEIR Global Masters over ALL of us they allow to continue to emit CO2!
Bill says
Despite the phony show of concern, the SJW shareholders are obviously fine with this because they control the Board of Directors and the Board controls the Management. The shareholders knew of, allowed and supported this business direction because the shareholders themselves are leaders among the global elite oligarch of financial banks and investment companies seeking ultimately to destroy individual rights and freedom.
Common business sense dictates that if you really care about the business, you do not alienate half your customer base, kick them out of your “store” permanently, make those who remain in your store afraid to shop, for fear of being harassed or thrown out or demonetized. But this is exactly what is happening on YouTube, Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook. It continues unabated, whit the pace accelerating. Notable figures with enough clout get it reversed with the digital masters claiming innocent mistake. Meanwhile how many thousands of regular citizens suffer this daily with no recourse whatsoever?
These losses will be deemed acceptable as the globalist elites work to use the digital industry and their related media corporations to enslave people on a global basis. But for the huge advancements in digital processing, data storage and access, this would not have been possible even 20 years ago. It is all possible now.
Anyone who has not found alternate venues like Gab, Bitchute and others before the 2020 election cycle begins in earnest, will find themselves shut out, shut down, and scrambling to find alternatives.
RonaldB says
I think you’re entirely correct that the profit motive, as we understand it, is playing a minor role in the decisions of these huge technology megacorps. They are not monopolies, but dominate the market by far. In a sense, they are too large to fail. Also, they are so integrated with so many components, they simply don’t care what the customers on a particular component think.
The large mega-corps begin to resemble governments: they have almost total power over their domains, they build huge bureaucratic empires, and are not really accountable to anyone. If a $70 billion drop in market valuation doesn’t get their attention, nothing will.
Also, more and more the techno-geeks are products of sheltered, woke education, and have been infused with cultural Marxism. Their Marxism is more important to them than their profits.
But, back to Earth, there is the consideration that the larger the corporation, the more susceptible to catching cold from a government sneeze. To give an example, if the government started interpreting the social media as being liable for libel, they would immediately face billions of dollars in lawsuits. You can see the effect in the $250 million lawsuits filed by Nicolas Sandman for the libelous coverage of him by major media. So, the very size of the megacorps makes them hostile to government policy, written or implied.
Really, the only defense against the abuses and censorship is to maintain smaller service providers, nation-based rather than global. There may be a case for making Google divest acquisitions such as YouTube and making Amazon split into separate companies, one a book company and the other a merchandise company. I would also require US corporations to not have subsidiaries or branches registered in foreign countries. Their dealing in other countries would be strictly on the basis of customer-provider, not member of the board and stakeholder. If the US corporations want to put themselves under the authority of, say, Abu Dubai, they should be free to. But, that means leaving the protection of the US government and the advantages of a domestic company.
jarmanray says
Hopefully, Adam Smith’s laws of supply and demand will prevail once again. I keep hoping that a better mouse trap will be built that will exclude no one from either side of the spectrum.
Bill says
Go to Gab. You will see some ugly stuff from the haters of Jews, none of which is pleasant to read, but all of it is an eye opener. I would rather know that there are people out there like that then pretend they do not exist. Islam is called out frequently without retribution to the posting persons. Leftists have a hard time, not because they are censored or stopped, but because most there do not believe their BS. The left mostly spends its time trying to bring the site down with DOS attacks and whinging on mainstream platforms and urging the Democrats to shut it down.
RonaldB says
The big problem with the Nazi crap on Gab is not that they express hatred, but they flood the channel. You have to sift through hundreds of mindless, boilerplate Nazi tweets to find anything worth reacting to. The very best sites do moderate for content, relevancy, and decorum. I’m not advocating that Nazi crap thought be censored out, but that the hundreds of brain-dead mindless sloganeering be cut out so you can actually have a discussion or argument. I can name several websites that often have virulent anti-Jewish postings, but there is value in engaging them.
marc says
@RonaldB we actually get quite nazi type trying to comment here, we’ve let a few through occasionally, but it always ends back at,
“the moozlims are here because the jooz brought them to destroy our white race, i read the protocols and the talmud, cackle, skittle, burn them all…”
People try to debate them, but they are not interested in any discussion, anyway mossad pays me to delete their comments 😉
gravenimage says
Marc 🙂
RonaldB says
“anyway mossad pays me to delete their comments ”
I’m happy to hear that someone found a way to make a living wage from real news and opinion websites like “Jihad Watch”.
simpleton1 says
What happened to the Russian Roulette post? that was put in by Daniel Greenfield and was an article written by Bosch Fawstin? in the past day or so.
Has Jihadwatch pulled it?
Has it been hacked?
Are some countries blocking it?
Has some pressure been exerted by some that are offended?
I found it was a broad base approach to a problem, with many different solutions.
It was an civil interesting debate bringing up many differing points of view to consider.
All I get is :-
Not found, error 404
The page you are looking for no longer exists. Perhaps you can return back to the homepage and see if you can find what you are looking for. Or, you can try finding it by using the search form below.
Ashley says
That is odd, simpleton1. I was reading the comments on that particular post this morning.
You are correct…it has vanished:
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2019/05/muslim-roulette-by-bosch-fawstin
I’m sure marc can offer up an explanation. I’m sure it is just a glitch…marc, the tech guru here at JW, has had to wear a few extra hats during Robert’s absence…
marc says
@simpleton1 sorry, some technical error, we’ll figure it out, nothing nefarious.
gravenimage says
Good to hear, Marc–thank you.
simpleton1 says
Thank you marc. Always a lot of work to keep a blog running.
This did seem the right post for that comment as talking about the nefarious corporations. 🙂
Sort of would be interesting to know why? even if it is just a technicality.
On ‘Russian Roulette’ I did think that possibly some comment could pop up that may pop up that would be deleted, but the whole post, with what I thought was a good debate, about problems, and the vast range of view points with considered answers.
Thanks to moderators, as the flow on this blog seems to be pretty much unimpeded.
The pressure on some blogs, since the Christchurch shootings, has made for some major blogs, that all comments must go through moderation, and if limited staff, can take a long time to go through, almost being censor ship when comments are finally checked through hours later and late at night.
gravenimage says
If you find an ugly post–they do turn up here, sometimes it seems to deliberately smear Jihad Watch–you can alert the moderators at the “Contact Us” box.
marc says
opps, posted under wrong comment
CRUSADER says
7 Deadly Sins of Social Media…
Lust – Tinder
Gluttony – Yelp
Greed – LinkedIn
Sloth – Netflix
Pride – Instagram
Envy – Facebook
Wrath – Twitter
gravenimage says
Alphabet (Google/Youtube) does what it’s told and loses $70 billion
…………………..
Censorship trumping even profit–just crazy.
And this ugliness has been going on for some time:
“The Purge: YouTube Mass-Censors Conservatives, New Right, Classical Liberals”
https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2018/03/01/the-purge-youtube-mass-censors-conservatives-new-right-classical-liberals/#
There was a story on this in KCBS this morning, and they implied that everyone banned was inciting violence.
They specifically mentioned Alex Jones. Now, I am not an unalloyed fan of Jones–he is a conspiracy theorist and a 9/11 “Truther”–but I have *never* heard him incite violence. Banning him and then lying about the reason for it is just despicable.
marc says
@gravenimage “Alex Jones”, really don’t like him, he drags us down with him because we have so much mutual cause, I do wish the families had gone after him sooner, slander that actually costs lives, BUT, there is zero justification for deplatforming him, they actually went against their own ToS to take him down, while he’s just an idiot, and it’s right his conspiracy theories were out in the open, they are huge monopolies with plenty of lawyers. In my mind he comes off way better than them.
UNCLE VLADDI says
Please tell us, Marc – exactly how does Alex Jones 9/11 “slander actually cost lives!”?
marc says
9/11, that was not what I had in mind. We can’t quantify the cost on the mental health the slander played on top of the grief of the Sandy Hook survivors and parents who have since taken their own lives. They should have got him in court sooner. 9/11 is a very popular conspiracy theory, I don’t think much harm done to the families could be directly contributed to him. Deplatforming was never the answer, whatever my PoV is regarding the truth. Another reason i see them differently, 9/11 he never called the victims play actors, there he was questioning the cause.
CRUSADER says
“I Wanted to Help Google Make AI More Responsible. Instead I Was Treated With Hostility.”
— Kay Coles James
President of The Heritage Foundation
(James is a leader in government, academia and the conservative movement.
Google decided this year to create an advisory council that would help guide the company in the responsible development of artificial intelligence.)
KEY TAKEAWAYS:
A. Less than two weeks after the AI advisory council was announced, Google disbanded it.
B. Being attacked is not new for me.
C. Uncivil discourse is an illness in America.
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Read full article, it is incredible!
https://www.heritage.org/civil-society/commentary/i-wanted-help-google-make-ai-more-responsible-instead-i-was-treated