“You’re damn right I’m condemning Zionism,” ranted the longstanding Georgetown University associate and leftist “Islamophobia” scam artist Nathan Lean to this author two years ago on Twitter. The normally bombastic Lean, who has previously launched twitter tirades against this author, has recently scrubbed almost all of his tweets, but screenshots taken over the years preserve this bigoted man’s obsessive hatred of Israel.
Contrary to the historical evidence of Zionist leaders who recognized the rights of Arab inhabitants in what would become the Jewish national home, Lean has maligned Zionism as an ideology that “asserts that a certain group of people have the ‘right’ to a certain tract of land, and can thus expel all others.”
Thus his “Criticism of Zionism makes good sense.”
Lean regurgitates the standard leftist slanders that
Israel is not a democracy. It’s an ‘ethnocracy,’ which gives rights to one privileged ethnic group and denies them to the (occupied) others. Further, Israel ethnically cleansed those others—Palestinians—from their own land.
Therefore Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is the “leader of an apartheid project.”
Lean accordingly has tweeted this screed:
Because it’s an apartheid state. Because it steals Palestinians’ land. Destroys their homes. Drops bombs on their children. Rations their food and water. Monitors their movement. Abuses human rights. And violates international law. Screw your ‘democracy.’
Lean sometimes qualifies that apartheid encompasses “not the entire country. The Occupied Territories, for sure, though.”
The Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) are a primary target for Lean’s caricatures, a military that he sees as a driving force behind Israel’s supposed historical land theft. He condemns the IDF because it “doesn’t apologize for, ahem, all the land they’ve stolen from the Palestinians over the past 7 decades.”
Lean offered no condemnation of this anti-Semitic tweeted response that “Old habits die hard. For generations they have been thieves.”
Lean tweeted the Palestinian propaganda that the violent 2018 Great March of Return “protests were peaceful” and involved “unarmed refugees” whom the IDF merely “slaughtered”:
Lean dismissed any Israeli concern for self-defense, stating that
There are not ‘two sides’ in the Israeli slaughter of Palestinians. It’s not a ‘conflict,’ either. There are oppressed and oppressed. Murderers and murdered. Rag-tag rocket launchers and high-powered missiles.
Lean has outright mocked the “‘Israel has a right to defend itself’ shtick.”
Lean slandered the IDF, which makes great efforts to be discriminate between combatants and civilians, stating that
Israeli forces slaughtered a dozen-plus Palestinians in cold blood. Nothing new. They’ve been doing it for years. They’re not just ‘trigger happy.’ They’re beastly war criminals.
Lean has repeatedly recurred to dehumanizing language about IDF soldiers, such as when discussing the case of Razan al-Najjar, a Gazan nurse killed by Israeli snipers under unclear circumstances. He tweeted that Palestinians have been “brutally & intentionally murdered by Israeli snipers for whom this savagery is quotidian.”
Therefore “gruesome, premeditated murder” exemplified for Lean the “Israeli snipers, long known for their animal-like savagery.”
“If anyone is a terrorist, you insufferable savages fit the bill,” Lean has tweeted about IDF soldiers.
Lean added that a “Bloodthirsty Israeli sniper” shows “just what Israel is good for: slaughtering the very people whose homes and land they stole.”
Lean has reiterated his Israeli “bloodthirsty ‘soldiers’” trope.
Lean continued his whitewash of Palestinian terrorism while mourning Yasser Murtaja, who used his media credentials to cover his operations with Hamas. In Lean’s vile language, Israel is the “Beast of the Middle East, doing what it does best: killing innocent Palestinians” with “odious snipers” who have “murdered” Palestinians.
Lean has repeated his blood libels of the “real problem of continued Israeli apartheid and murder.”
Yet again Lean has tweeted about how Israel has “murdered” supposedly innocent Palestinians.
Lean condemned Palestinians “murdered by cowardly Israeli snipers” as a “war crime. This is what Israel is.”
The self-appointed judge Lean has summarily pronounced that “Israel is, of course, guilty of war crimes.”
While distorting comments by Israel’s defense minister, Lean in his vitriol also added that “Israeli politics today is driven by nothing less than a desire to kill Palestinians.”
Lean in his haughty judgment therefore concluded that:
Let’s be clear: Israel’s violence against the Palestinians is terrorism. No other way around it. Confining scores of people to an open air prison, rationing their food, tracking their movement, & then routinely shooting and killing dozens of them should qualify if anything does.
“Killing scores of occupied people is just what they do,” Lean caustically tweeted, as if Israelis simply killed Palestinians for sport.
Lean’s Israel-hatred mirrored an anti-Semitic tweet by Representative Ilhan Omar. “All in a day’s job for the IDF: killing unarmed Palestinian children. The world will wake up to this evil one day, I hope,” he tweeted.
Lean unsurprisingly has mocked Israeli casualties, such as an IDF soldier killed by a marble slab dropped on him. “Oh dear! A poor IDF soldier is struck in the head by a rock and people are begging for prayers.”
Lean has rejected any Israeli demands for well-justified security controls over any future Palestinian polity. “States are sovereign, & can defend themselves without the complete control of, ahem, another state,” he has tweeted.
Lean has ludicrously dismissed Israeli rejection of a Palestinian “right of return” for millions of descendants of probably 600,000 Arab refugees from Israel’s 1948 independence war. This influx would demographically destroy Israel and is therefore completely unacceptable to Israelis in any peace process with the Palestinians. “There is nothing to suggest that a right of Palestinian return would ‘destroy’ Israel. That’s conjecture based on fear,” he has tweeted with insufferable unreality.
Not even free trade with Israel’s “start-up nation” escaped Lean’s protectionist wrath. While American-Israeli trade has grown over 450 percent under the successful US-Israeli Free Trade Agreement, he tweeted that the “US is drained from that farce-of-an-agreement, and billions of dollars in debt (annually) because of it.”
Naturally, Lean falsely defends economic warfare against Israel in the Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions (BDS) movement as “free speech.” He has tweeted:
It amazes me that conservatives accuse the Left of attacking free speech and then, as if they were completely oblivious to their own hypocrisy, try to force measures that would limit criticism of the Israeli government and its policies.
Lean has repeated the hackneyed canard that people like him who demonize Israel merely criticize policies and do not have any animus towards Jews. Thus “criticizing Israeli policy does not make one ‘anti-Semitic.’”
Lean has disingenuously protested that “I have no love of or hate for Israel. Its government, and their discriminatory policies, ethnic cleansing, segregation, etc., I abhor.”
Lean has found good company in Jewish Voice for Peace (JVP), a radical Israel-hating group whose Jewish figureheads enable “Jew-washing” of numerous anti-Semitic JVP Gentile members like him. “Today, I renewed my membership to Jewish Voices for Peace. They, perhaps more than any other group, fight for the rights of the Palestinians and against the obnoxious voices that demonize critics of Israeli policies as ‘anti-Semites,’” he tweeted.
Lean has repeatedly praised JVP. “Just made a donation. I encourage those who abhor apartheid and want just treatment of Palestinians to do the same here,” he tweeted.
Lean also defended Marc Lamont Hill, whose coded calls (“From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free”) for Israel’s destruction cost him his position as a CNN commentator. “Professor Marc Lamont Hill advocates that Palestinians be treated with dignity and given basic human rights, and @CNN fires him.”
Lean likewise engaged in spurious defenses of Omar against condemnation of her antisemitism, claiming that denunciations of her were merely racist, religiously bigoted, and sexist. “Brown Muslim women are coming and I’m scared of them!” Lean tweeted in response to Congressman Lee Zeldin.
Playing the race card is typical for leftists like Lean. He tweeted that Omar
is being singled out for one reason: she is a brown woman. Critics of Obama couldn’t admit that they hated him because he was black, so they accused him of being a Muslim, instead. Representative Omar is both brown and a Muslim, and as such is a double threat to racists.
Lean tried to give Omar’s antisemitism a veneer of respectability by citing the discredited “Israel Lobby” thesis of the “reputable scholars” John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt. Lean tweeted:
Many reputable scholars, including political scientists Mearsheimer (U Chicago) and Walt (Harvard) have advanced arguments about Israel’s influence in American politics. But unlike them, @IlhanMN is a brown, veiled Muslim woman, and thus the reason for attacks on her character.
Lean can only see supporters of Israel like this author in the most diabolical terms. “Well if it was up to you, Palestinians would all be exterminated with no claim to any land or territory. Typical Nazi,” he has tweeted with a typical leftist trite invocation of Nazism.
Lean has confirmed that cries of “Islamophobia” from people like him, among other things, enables antisemitism and hatred of Israel. Like undefined “white privilege” charges, “Islamophobia” accusations intend to silence without argument any critical inquiry into Islam; particularly Jews should not suggest that they face dangers in any Islamic doctrines. By contrast, antisemitism watchdog groups like Canary Mission would do well to keep an eye on Lean, who resembles Steve Salaita, a former professor who lost his job due to anti-Semitic tweets and now drives a bus.
Yet Lean’s bigoted views on Israel’s Jewish state are not the only warped beliefs he has, as a forthcoming article will demonstrate.
Andrew Harrod holds a PhD from the Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy and a JD from George Washington University Law School. He is admitted to the Virginia State Bar.
gravenimage says
Andrew Harrod: Nathan Lean’s bizarre Israel-hatred obsession revealed on Twitter
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Andrew Harrod has the patience of a saint. Thanks for this expose of the nasty Nathan Lean. Lean is even an apologist for the Jihad against Israel, and he hates the only democracy in the region.
Wellington says
Seconded, gravenimage.
Lean is, at best, a very confused human being; at worst, simply evil. I’d vote for the latter but, even if “only” the former, Lean is eminently dismissible—and disgusting.
Instructive, highly, how all haters, ignoramuses and liars about Israel reveal one thing above all—whatever their motive—and that is that their moral compass is broken (N.B., this would include, quite sadly, an ever increasing number of Americans affiliated with the Democratic Party, as well as the current pontifex maximus {what an utter disgrace Francis is and when has he indicated great regard for the only free nation in the Middle East?}, and many Western European leaders like May, Macron and Merkel).
I would add here that there is one major religion, and only one, whose moral compass has been broken from its outset. It is “Islam” by name. But I know you know this already, gravenimage, as, thankfully, an ever increasing number of people across the world are grasping.
Islam simply cannot stand up to a scrutiny it has never been subjected to before, thanks to all kinds of modern communications (none of which the Islamic world on its own would have invented since Islam is a dead-end for the mind many times over). After all, if one really believes in the fictional Allah, Mo being the last and greatest of the prophets, most people in Hell being women (a la Mohammed himself), and 72 virgins waiting for devout Muslim men in the afterlife, then you deserve to be torn down, ridiculed, marginalized, dismissed, mocked and consigned to the trash heap of history.
Surely. Time for a beer, perhaps a BLT as well.
gravenimage says
Lean is a nasty piece of work.
Enjoy that beer and BLT, Wellington.
Norger says
Indeed. There are many authoritative voices in the Palestinian community, including their political leaders, who have repeatedly said (or more accurately vowed) that given the means, they would slaughter the Israelis down to the last woman and child. (And these vile threats by Palestinians to annihilate Israel invariably have theological underpinnings; i.e. they are deeply rooted in Islamic Jew-hatred) Yet this racist thug has the audacity to assert that Israel would have absolutely nothing to fear from a Palestinian “return.”
Perhaps the ugliest in this series of ugly, vile, nasty tweets is the one in which he openly mocks the IDF soldier fighting for his life after being in the head by a heavy object thrown by a terrorist. What a disgustingly nasty piece of work you are Mr. Lean.
Israel, the lone beacon of hope in the sh*thole that is the Middle East. Long live Israel (and I’m not Jewish or even religious).
You are right Wellington, this man’s moral compass is completely broken.
Westman says
Apparently, Lean is the director of an “Islamophobia” study project at Georgetown. His comments indicate he hadn’t learned anything from Islam’s own scriptures and is flailing about on political and apologist infomation.
I understand his ignorance, however, not why an educator remains ignorant. His rants are pure aggression.
During the first intifada, I wasn’t nasty or particularly vocal, yet I swallowed the MSM and apologist view that Israel was the aggressor. After actually studying the history and scriptures of Islam I realized that Islam intends to annihilate the Jews, with Allah’s approval. Israel is only trying to survive.
gravenimage says
+1
CRUSADER says
Such was the argument by Dershowitz
in “The Case FOR Israel”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oahiGafE1U
Stanton Lore says
Hadn’t heard of him until this article. Really wish I didn’t read it. Screeching pompous antisemite. This is the hate manifested by the left. A hate that cannot be reasoned with or muted through discussion. This man seems to devote most of his energy to hating. Hating Israel primarily, but hate is likely his natural state.
mortimer says
Read his rants here at HuffPo: https://www.huffpost.com/author/nathan-lean
FYI says
what IS it with Georgetown University?
“catholic” and Jesuit {Mr Bergoglio’s lot} and.. Leftard:Ok,that explains it.
{“Oh Jesus!Save Catholicism from “pope” francis and save us from the Whited Sepulchres,the Jesuits” is a new prayer I heard recently..from faithful Catholics…}
Many “catholic” universities of course are not actually Catholic any more ;and they seem happy to accomodate islam, a religion{please note Jesuit Fathers} that CURSES Christians for believing in Jesus Christ koran 9:30
Doesn’t islamic supremacist ideology give a certain group of people{muslims} the right to seize and occupy land and can thus expel all other “kuffar”:1,400 years of pillaging,mass-murdering,ethnic cleansing,discriminatory policies{JIZYA TAX!},segregation and raping for Al Lah,the “BEST of deceivers” k3:54,the pagan Arab god of the muslims?
For the lefties and islamopandering theology students to ponder: even the koran does not dispute the RIGHT of Israel to exist and that it is the rightful homeland of the Jews{ koran 5:20-26}
So muslims cannot deny Israel’s right to exist or to protect its borders{as ANY nation on earth would do}
We can’t expect smug leftard academics to understand Irony,especially it seems from “catholic” universities{that don’t actually follow the teachings of Catholicism anyway}
The morally bankrupt, violently antisemitic Leftards,the murderous ,dissembling islamofascists and the islamopandering “catholics”{followers of their pedo-promoting,pro-globalist,heretical,judas pope Bergoglio}:what an appaling bunch of hypocrites and liars!
It’s now the RED-GREEN-“catholic” Axis…
CRUSADER says
Amazing what Wahhabi / Salafi funding can do to a Jesuit academy of learning….
Devil at play in a big way….
Ever seen “Exorcist”? That’s at Georgetown….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3F9A5xeHAI
CRUSADER says
Quite a TUMBLE down imposing heights in a Fallen World !!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F15M4x2LDZU
Wellington says
FYI: Roman Catholicism has gone into “dumb mode” at least temporarily.
For all those who prize Western Civilization, even though like myself not Catholic, such folks should hope it is only a temporary aberration since Roman Catholicism at its best represents many positives (sadly, haters of the Catholic Church who are Protestant or Orthodox don’t “get this” and this is simply stupid, especially in light of what Islam intends for us all).
But I fear that Vatican II, called by that silly Pope, John XXIII, who tried to fix something that wasn’t broken (nothing dumber than this), may very well have done permanent damage to Roman Catholicism. Someone like Pope Francis represents a “consequence” of the enormous error that John XXIII initiated (and pathetically continued by Paul VI who was nothing more than a good bureaucrat elected to the highest office in the Church). One knows all this by now or should know it. I have very little patience anymore for those who don’t grasp these “essentials.” Enough already with seemingly permanent modern Catholic ignorance of Mo’s creed, led today by the doofus presently occupying the throne of Saint Peter.
Oh well, the ancient Egyptian religion lasted 150% or so longer than has Roman Catholicism, and we all know what happened to that spiritual belief system. Just looking at matters historically (and pre-historically where mankind spent about 99% of its existence), there is no reason to conclude that Roman Catholicism will in the long run prevail. Unless, of course, you think it is the true faith—rather like many ancient Egyptians thought the same of their own religion. QED.
Man is an idiot. The fact that Islam still exists at all, except on the extreme margins of society, serves as confirmation of this assertion. Aided, I would note again, by the contemporary putrid hierarchy of Roman Catholicism.
No Fear says
“Oh the starving Palestinians! It’s all the fault of the Joooooooos.”
Obviously the Jews have prevented the supply of fruit and veg and boosted the intake of Mega Burgers among Palestinians causing them to be overweight:
https://www.hindawi.com/journals/jobe/2012/213547/
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(19)30588-4/fulltext
Pablo. says
Saudi Arabia funds the Bridge Initiative out of Georgetown University. Take a look at Lean’s biographical page at Georgetown and as they say, the rest is history… The Saudis pay and Lean brays.
Terry Gain says
Lean sounds Jewish. So what is it with these self-hating Jews, and Leftists, who believe Jews are not permitted to defend themselves. They do so with great restraint when attacked. And, given the history of genocide against the Jewish people, why are they not entitled to a tiny sanctuary? They deserve a sanctuary above all others.
CRUSADER says
“Islamophobia Industry: How the Right Manufactures Hatred of Muslims”
by Nathan Lean
No Fear says
You don’t need the right to manufacture hate for Islam’s ideology. Reading the Quran and the reliable Hadith is enough.
Jack Holan says
Christine and Robert you realize the logical conclusion that will be reached by adherents to Leans ideology. It will be justified and spontaneous murder not only of Israelis but Worldwide Jewry. He will further incite. He’s gutless. He would never try to take on one of us Face to Face.
CRUSADER says
*** Georgetown Lecturer Whitewashes Islamism, Blames West for Jihadis
(Another event in the life of a modern prestige university.)
Non-Muslims must “reject the feelings of cultural, racial, and religious superiority that drive false narratives of barbarous Muslims versus civilized Westerners or peaceful Christians,” pontificated Luther College Professor Todd Green. His April 8 Georgetown University presentation attempted to induce guilt in non-Muslims over real and alleged historical atrocities, while whitewashing modern Islamist and jihadist threats.
Green lectured about thirty listeners in the conference room of Georgetown’s Saudi-funded Prince Alwaleed bin Talal Center for Muslim-Christian Understanding (ACMCU). With Georgetown Professor Tamara Sonn as moderator, he presented his recent book, Presumed Guilty: Why We Shouldn’t Ask Muslims to Condemn Terrorism, under the auspices of ACMCU’s anti-“Islamophobia” Bridge Initiative. The audience included fellow Islamist apologists and ACMCU/Bridge faculty Jonathan Brown, Yvonne Haddad, and Hannah Sullivan. Muslim reformers Mike Ghouse and Faranaz Ispahani also attended.
Green generalized that “one of our favorite past times is to single out Muslims after terrorist attacks and ask them to condemn violence they have had nothing to do with.” He contrasted such behavior with numerous Muslim condemnations of terrorism, such as the website Muslims Condemn, and concluded flippantly that “reading Muslim condemnations of terrorism is pretty boring.” He omitted that influential Islamist organizations like the Hamas-derived Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) have refused to denounce terrorists such as Hamas or have issued qualified denunciations of the Islamic State. Even many American Muslims remain concerned that Muslim leaders have refused to denounce extremism.
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https://spectator.org/georgetown-lecturer-whitewashes-islamism-blames-west-for-jihadis/
Bob Builder says
And he works at Georgetown U, huh?
Hmm
James Lincoln says
I don’t understand this…
Here’s a guy, Nathan Lean, who is a graduate student studying Islam and Christianity
at Georgetown University with the following college degrees:
MA (2013), Georgetown University
MA (2010), East Carolina University
BA (2007), East Carolina University
According to Georgetown University’s website, Nathan’s research interests “focus on religious pluralism, Muslim-Christian relations, discourse and religion, anti-Muslim prejudice, and the dynamics of engagement between Muslims and Christians in North Africa.”
I went to college decades ago when critical thinking and evidence-based logic were still predominant, at least in the STEM world.
How is it possible that a man like Nathan Lean, with so much education, can have it so wrong?
Did he go to college just to get stupid?
I’m dead serious…
CRUSADER says
It does seem that Lean is lean on facts.
“scribblerg” also appears to be a wishful scribbler.
SemiDave says
Lean is disgusting.
His ultimate reward should be execution by slow beheading or…crucifixion by his heroes from the Gaza.
Now, I too am disgusting.
So be it!
mortimer says
Thanks to Andrew Harrod for a superb collection of the spittle-covered rantings of Nathan Lean.
This collection can be sent to all who know Nathan Lean. He will have no leg to stand on. He is a raving JEW-HATER.
EXPOSED.
mortimer says
It’s clear that Nathan Lean thinks 3000-year-old Jewish are NOT a ‘nation’, but that the newly-invented ‘Palestinian’ (invented in 1967 in Moscow) are a real nation.
Lean has no problem with the apartheid of the PLO and HAMAS which had undisguised religious cleansing in their foundational documents.
Dapto says
Nathan Lean card carrying Nazi part of the George Sorearse Nazi project thats designed to enslave you all
Merkel000 says
Merkel throws german flag away
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sI-hBoOW_Ho
mortimer says
Nathan, you know something about HATE … so tell us .. How much hatred should a Muslim direct towards the dirty kufaar ‘for the sake of Allah’ in order to truly please Allah?
What is the correct amount of hate?
Should a Muslim hate the DIRTY KUFAAR
1) one time a week?
2) every second day?
3) hate kafirs five times a day?
4) hate the disbelievers every 20 minutes?
5) join ISIS and enslave them?
6) drive your car towards police and kafir pedestrians at a fairground so as to slaughter the kufaar ‘wherever you find them’ (K.9.5)?
Nathan, HOW MUCH hatred directed against kafirs is ‘THE RIGHT AMOUNT’? Your great knowledge of hatred is eagerly sought in this matter.
mortimer says
Nathan,
No Palestine
“There is no such country as Palestine. ‘Palestine’ is a term the Zionists invented. There is no Palestine in the Bible… Palestine is alien to us.” – Awni Abdul-Hadi, Peel Commission testimony, 1937
“There is no such thing as Palestine in history. Absolutely not.” – Arab historian, Dr. Philip Hitti, Anglo-American Committee testimony, 1946
“It is common knowledge that Palestine is nothing but southern Syria.” – Saudi representative to the United Nations, 1956
“Never forget this one point: there is no such thing as a Palestinian people. There is no Palestinian entity … Palestine is an integral part of Syria.” – Hafez al-Assad to Yasser Arafat
NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A PALESTINIAN AND A JORDANIAN or A SYRIAN
Jordan is a 20th-century British invention, dreamed up in the 1920s, for the peoples living in what Britain illegally hived off from the League of Nations Mandate for Palestine in 1923. In 1923 the British arbitrarily violated the Mandate by creating the “Emirate of Jordan” in Eastern Palestine. The British announced that this was a “temporary” measure, which they quietly and quickly made “permanent.” Jews were no longer allowed to live there.
Once the British established the Mandate, and Jewish immigration began to create a mini-industrial revolution, both Western and Eastern Palestine attracted waves of Muslim Arab immigrants from Egypt and Syria. These new immigrants found it convenient to make common cause with the non-Bedouin residents of Jordan and much later, specifically after 1967, called themselves and their children Palestinians. President Roosevelt pointed out in 1939 that “Arab immigration into Palestine since 1921 has vastly exceeded the total Jewish immigration during this whole period.” Until 1946, its British administrators called TransJordan ‘Eastern Palestine’.
Arab Opinions about the Demographic Unity of ‘Palestine’ and Jordan
”Palestine and Transjordan are one, for Palestine is the coastline and Transjordan the hinterland of the same country.” – King Abdullah, at the Meeting of the Arab League, Cairo, 12 April, 1948
”We are the Government of Palestine, the army of Palestine and the refugees of Palestine.” – Prime Minister of Jordan, 23 August, 1959
”Palestine is Jordan and Jordan is Palestine; there is one people and one land, with one history and one and the same fate.” – Prince Hassan, brother of King Hussein, addressing the Jordanian National Assembly, 2 February, 1970
”There is no family on the East Bank of the [Jordan] River that does not have relatives on the West Bank … no family in the west that does not have branches in the east.” – King Hussein, addressing the Jordanian National Assembly, 2 February, 1972
“The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct “Palestinian people” to oppose Zionism.
For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan.”- PLO representative Zouhair Muhsen in 1977, speaking to a Dutch newspaper
You lose, Nathan. The Arabs have themselves exposed your lies IN ADVANCE.
CRUSADER says
https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/benny-morris-dystopian-predictions-about-israel-s-future-miss-the-point-1.6851970
Benny Morris’ Dystopian Predictions About Israel’s Future Miss the Point — Gideon Levy
I find myself grateful to Benny Morris. In his blindness and his pessimism, he has once again reminded me of the hope that exists
I’ll always be grateful to Benny Morris; he opened my eyes. His book “The Birth of the Palestinian Refugee Problem, 1947-1949” shook up people who were raised on the Zionist narrative. Suddenly there was a Nakba; suddenly there was a national disaster, a mass expulsion, ethnic cleansing. And we hadn’t been told anything about it.
Thirty years later, Morris is prophesying the end. “This place will decline like a Middle Eastern state with an Arab majority,” he said in an interview with Ofer Aderet. “The Jews will remain as a small minority within a great Arab sea of Palestinians — a persecuted or slaughtered minority.”
But the person who described the beginning so well is giving a deliberately erroneous description of the end. Morris hasn’t mustered the courage to discuss the direct connection between the beginning and the end, between what the Jews did — since the dawn of Zionism, without letup — and what he foresees as the end of their state.
Horrifying predictions of the end of the state have been with it from the beginning. The Arabs will multiply, expel us and slaughter us. This was very effective as Zionist propaganda: the few against the many, David versus Goliath, they’re coming to destroy us.
But in reality, the opposite occurred. The Jews multiplied, dispossessed, expelled, killed and sometimes slaughtered.
Morris makes light of this. “A degree of oppression, which here and there included minor crimes,” is how he described decades of military dictatorship, one of the cruelest in the world today, a huge and ongoing war crime.
The historian who regretted that Israel didn’t expel all the Arabs to the other side of the Jordan River in 1948; the researcher who presented two choices, ethnic cleansing or genocide; the person who proposed imprisoning the Palestinians in a cage, because “there are wild animals there,” now can’t figure out “how we extricate ourselves from this.”
To his credit, he does understand that the two-state solution is no longer an option. To his discredit, he blames this entirely on the Palestinians. The man who accuses the Arabs of a dearth of self-criticism has been revealed as a characteristic Zionist, one who always blames the Arabs for everything.
Here’s his solution: “Play the diplomatic game to retain the West’s sympathy.” If that’s the only thing left for Zionism to do, the Zionist project is indeed finished.
But that isn’t the only option; Morris’ dystopian predictions are simply blind to the others. Anyone who papers over the connection between Zionism’s abuse of the Palestinians and their hatred of Israel is incapable of imagining that altering one half of this equation might alter the other.
According to Morris and his ilk, the Arabs are born to kill. Every Palestinian gets up in the morning and asks himself, “Which Jew shall I slaughter today, and which shall I drive into the sea?” It’s a kind of hobby. And if so, there’s nothing to talk about and no one to talk to.
This lying school of thought frees Zionism of all guilt and Israel of all responsibility. In any case, anything Israel does will be met with slaughter; it’s only a question of time.
Yet the historian who described how it all began, who understood that the beginning entailed a terrible original sin — dispossessing and expelling hundreds of thousands of people, then forcibly preventing their return, as he detailed in his next book — isn’t willing to connect the cause with the effect.
But perhaps, Benny Morris, there are other possibilities. First, what has lasted for 70 years, including 50 years of occupation, might be able to survive for another 100 years, or perhaps even 200. The Palestinians are weaker than ever, Israel is stronger than ever, the world is losing interest. The criminal status quo will emerge victorious and be perpetuated. That’s one possibility.
Yet there’s another, more encouraging possibility —– that when the Palestinians belatedly gain equality and justice, they will no longer be the same Palestinians. That under conditions of freedom and dignity, which they have never had, it will become possible to establish a different reality and a different relationship in a single democratic state.
Morris has never thought about that, and neither has Zionism. Because if the Zionists thought about it, they might have an obligation to make it happen.
So once again, I find myself grateful to Morris. In his blindness and his pessimism, he has once again reminded me of the hope that exists, even if it’s still far from being realized.
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AMEN
CRUSADER says
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium.MAGAZINE-israel-will-decline-and-jews-will-be-persecuted-those-who-can-will-flee-1.6848498
‘Israel Will Decline, and Jews Will Be a Persecuted Minority. Those Who Can Will Flee to America’
The Turks perpetrated genocide against Christians for 30 years, Benny Morris asserts in a new study. And, in conjunction with his retirement at 70, the historian predicts a grim future for Israel
By Ofer Aderet
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CRUSADER says
https://www.jweekly.com/2017/11/10/forget-israeli-historian-abandons-hope-two-state-solution/
‘Forget it:’ Israeli historian abandons hope for two-state solution
After more than three decades of focusing on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, historian Benny Morris easily can cite demographic figures from 19th century Palestine or discuss the refugee problems created by the 1948 Arab-Israeli War.
And that’s exactly what he did last night (Nov. 9) at the Peninsula JCC in Foster City, leading an extended discussion of the 1948 war — drawing from several books he has written on that subject.
But when Morris was questioned about the current state of the relationship between Israelis and Palestinians, he suddenly became terse.
Asked by an audience member what he would suggest to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas to get peace talks moving, Morris was unequivocal.
Morris said he would advise the leaders to “Forget it,” adding that the two-state solution is dead and that he could not think of any alternative.
Another person in the 65-member audience asked why he was not focusing on all the positive things happening in Israel now to bring people together.
“Because there isn’t that much,” Morris answered.
Such pessimism is nothing new to Morris, a professor in the Middle Eastern Studies Department at Ben-Gurion University of the Negev in Beersheva, and a visiting professor at Georgetown University since 2015.
In a 2012 interview with the Israeli newspaper Haaretz, Morris said he was no longer going to write about the conflict.
“The decades of studying the conflict, which led to nine books, left me with a feeling of deep despair. I’ve done all I can,” he said in that interview. “I’ve written enough about a conflict that has no solution, mainly due to the Palestinians’ consistent rejection of a solution of two states for two peoples.”
In fact, Morris said at the PJCC, his next book will be about Turkish mistreatment of Christian minorities during the 19th and 20th centuries.
The decades of studying the conflict … left me with a feeling of deep despair.
Morris gave a 40-minute speech about Israel’s 1948 War of Independence at the PJCC, exploring the refugee problems that resulted from that conflict and their continuing impact on the Middle East. He also said the Jews of Palestine, who declared the establishment of the State of Israel during the war, had three aims.
The first, coming only a few years after the Holocaust, was simply to survive attacks by Palestinians and then by invading Arab armies. The second was to expand the borders of Israel, which they accomplished — growing the new nation from 6,000 square miles in the United Nations partition plan to 8,000 square miles by the end of the war.
The third aim, he said, was to reduce the number of Arabs remaining on the land of Israel. Though there were expulsions of Palestinians by the new Israeli government, Morris said, that accounted for a small percentage of the refugees. Most of the 700,000 Arab refugees fled because of shelling or the threat of violence and were not allowed to return home after the war, he said.
Writing about that third aim has sparked controversy for Morris over the years, earning him criticism from both Zionists and anti-Zionists alike. Zionists object to his findings of expulsions, and Palestinian sympathizers attack him for saying those expulsions were justified because Israel needed to solidify its Jewish identity.
Many audience members seemed ready to do battle with Morris during a question-and-answer session. One objected to his saying Arab refugees had been “uprooted” by Israel, while another said the Palestinians should not be considered refugees. A third accused him of being a “darling” of anti-Israel groups.
Morris fought back on each issue, defending his scholarship and citing historical support for his statements. To the questioner who accused him of being a “darling” of Palestinian supporters, Morris quipped: “You haven’t read my book.”
And Morris left little doubt about his disappointment with the U.S. level of knowledge of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. When asked about his impression of U.S. college students and their understanding of the current situation, he was quick to reply.
“They know nothing about the Middle East as far as I can tell. They don’t come with any real knowledge,” Morris said. “And, unfortunately, the American press and television has a slanted view of the conflict. They have prejudices about the conflict, they are anti-Zionist and have very little knowledge.”
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Regarding:
JABOTINSKY….
Integrated state with Arabs
According to the historian Benny Morris, documents show that Jabotinsky favored the idea of the transfer of Arab populations if required for establishing a (still-proposed) Jewish state.[31] Jabotinsky’s other writings state, “We do not want to eject even one Arab from either the left or the right bank of the Jordan River. We want them to prosper both economically and culturally. We envision the regime of Jewish Palestine [Eretz Israel ha-Ivri] as follows: most of the population will be Jewish, but equal rights for all Arab citizens will not only be guaranteed, they will also be fulfilled.”[23] Jabotinsky was convinced that there was no way for the Jews to regain any part of Palestine without opposition from the Arabs. In 1934, he wrote a draft constitution for the Jewish state which declared that Arabs would be on an equal footing with their Jewish counterparts “throughout all sectors of the country’s public life.” The two communities would share the state’s duties, both military and civil service, and enjoy its prerogatives. Jabotinsky proposed that Hebrew and Arabic should enjoy equal status, and that “in every cabinet where the prime minister is a Jew, the vice-premiership shall be offered to an Arab and vice versa.”[32]
^ Morris, Benny (13 January 2004). “For the record”. The Guardian. Retrieved 15 June 2013.
^ Karsh, Efraim (Spring 2005). “Benny Morris’s Reign of Error, Revisited: The Post-Zionist Critique”. Middle East Quarterly. XII: 31–42. Retrieved 15 June 2013.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ze%27ev_Jabotinsky
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The IDEAL which Jabotinsky suggested
had been tried out later in Lebanon,
to great disaster, since all the Muslims
wanted and did was to drive out Kafir….
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Brigitte Gabriel goes into detail about what occurred in Lebanon….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brehUhjwQjs
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A PALESTINIAN AND A JORDANIAN or A SYRIAN
each walk into a bar, it’s called the Ak-Bar….
The bartender got each of them a glass of water, a mint wafer,
a cigarette, and a cup of sweet tea.
Then he asked each one, “What’s new?”
The Palestinian said: “Not much! I added to the bump on my forehead this week.
And I said in my prayers that the Jews need to be driven into the sea….”
The Jordanian said: “Not much! I added to the bump on my forehead this week.
And I said in my prayers that the Jews need to be driven into the sea….”
The Syrian said: “Not much! I added to the bump on my forehead this week.
And I said in my prayers that the Jews need to be driven into the sea….”