Students at a Catholic school in Campinas, Brazil, at the Immaculate Education Institute were forced to repeat the ‘Fatiha’ (first chapter of the Koran) which contains insults to both Christians and Jews.
Why was that pisslim ape allowed in a Catholic School. Would the pisslims allow a priest to say the Lord’s Prayer in an Islamic school? So sickening!!
mortimersays
Yes, ‘sickening’, because there is no excuse for not knowing this material. It’s easily findable on the internet.
Muslims recite the Fatiha 17 times a day and insult JEWS and CHRISTIANS 17 times a day … this adds up to thousands of brainwashings in a lifetime.
Janet Londaginsays
These are children. They aren’t expected to know everything.
CRUSADERsays
Isn’t calling the Muslim an “ape”
basically doing to him what he does to others?
Watto35says
Except when he calls others apes it is an insult; when we call him an ape it’s true.
Marysays
Isn’t it insulting to apes to call muslims apes?
WPMsays
I am sure the communist Pope is happy and agrees with children renouncing there faith in a catholic school in favor of politically signaling they hate western society and are all quality of having parents who are being evil capitalist. Are all the children now consider Moslems now?
andrasays
If they have repeated it three times and if there were enough male Muslims around the Muslims consider them as converts now.
I thought only the Europeans were so stupid to send their Children to the Muslims for a brainwash. But we see, the South Americans are as stupid as we are.
What has happened to destroy the Christian self respect so completely?
Mark Berlingersays
Bergoglio and the Church of Nice. Church Militant and Taylor Marshall report the failure and cover up of the leadership.
not “quality” I meant guilty ,auto correct and push wrong first letter in word by accident .
Ashleysays
Damn! I’ve had computer problems and can’t view the clip…
Perhaps it is just as well. It sounds revolting.
Rufolinosays
Revolting, yes, but not all that surprising.
Only the other day in Philadelphia we had tiny tots singing about decapitation.
gravenimagesays
Yes–a hideous story.
CogitoErgoSumsays
“… and lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil. Amen” It would have been better if the ones responsible for the care of these children had been tossed into the sea with a millstone around the neck. They have placed temptation before these children and delivered them into the presence of evil.
PRCSsays
There is no GOOD reason for the parents to have not had the ‘cleric’ inform them–in advance–for an Arabic to Portuguese (?) translation of the Fatiha.
How did they finally learn what it really meant?
FYIsays
“the Spirit produces Love,Joy,peace,patience,kindness,goodness,faithfulness,humility and self-control”
Galatians 5:22-23
But we see none of that in islam do we?
we see the OPPOSITE..
:hatred,misery,war,impatience,meanness,evil,untrustworthiness,pride and no self-control.
These are the fruits of AL lah “the BEST of deceivers” k3:54;a god whose Greatest enemy is Malik al Amlak
{“The king of kings”}Sahih muslim vol 5 hadith #5611
Al lah,the pagan Arab god’s enemy is ..Jesus Christ!
muslims are not necessarily evil of course. but islam is EVIL.
Keep islam out of Christian or Jewish schools!
Predictably al Ilah,the pagan Arab god of murder and mayhem..please note..tells muslims NOT to believe in God’s Spirit {see koran 4:171}
CogitoErgoSumsays
I doubt if the liar leading the prayer explained to the children that Jesus is not the Son of God but only a failed prophet who will one day return to break their crosses and cut off their heads if they fail to renounce Christianity and become Muslims. Watching this is gut wrenching and heartbreaking at the same time.
PRCSsays
Of course not.
Just as Omar Suleiman said God, not Allah at that congressional invocation.
Pushing the bogus notion that God and Allah are one and the same.
CRUSADERsays
OR…. by having Omar Sillyman at Congress invocation for Ramadan
state “God” rather than “Allah”…. it is one step closer to Omar converting
from Islam….
Look on the bright side of that!
PRCSsays
I’ll try.
gravenimagesays
Catholics tricked into insulting themselves at Brazilian Catholic School
…………………
Disgusting to see this kind of clueless dhimmitude coming out of Brazil. No place is safe now.
Lydia Churchsays
Idiots!!!
Meturafsays
Somewhere in Brazil is a cleric of the Christian faith who needs to be tarred feathered and run out of the country.
nasays
The future of Christianity, Hinduism, Buddhism, Communism is almost finished. Future religion is Judaism, Zionism and Islam. But I do not blame Judaism . In Abrahamic religion Judaism is far better than other two.
The next world war chances are , circumcised vs non circumcised people.
gravenimagesays
Actually, Judaism is a very small faith. There are only about 14 million Jews worldwide–compared with about 1.6 Muslims and over 2 billion Christians.
Zionism is not a religion–it is a movement originally for the establishment of a Jewish national or religious community in Palestine and later for the support of modern Israel. What do you have against Israel? This is a democratic state with equal rights for all citizens–very unlike Islam.
Most of the people who talk about “Abrahamic religions” are Muslims hoping for reflected gravitas from associating Islam with Christianity and Judaism.
As for your bizarre claim about those who are circumcised, surely you are aware that Muslim *hate* Jews and their scripture calls for the genocide of the Jews. Muslims would not ally with Jews, and Jews have no interest in taking over the world.
There are also a lot of people who are circumcised for non-religious reasons–boys being circumcised in the US, while not as universal as it once was, is still the norm here.
lebelsays
Why does the Fatiha contain insults to Jews and Christians? they are not named in it. Here is an explanation of this particular verse:
” According to almost all the commentators, God’s “condemnation” (ghadab, lit., “wrath”) is
synonymous with the evil consequences which man brings upon himself by wilfully rejecting
God’s guidance and acting contrary to His injunctions. Some commentators (e.g., Zamakhshari)
interpret this passage as follows: “… the way of those upon whom Thou hast bestowed Thy
blessings – those who have not been condemned [by Thee], and who do not go astray”: in
other words, they regard the last two expressions as defining “those upon whom Thou hast
bestowed Thy blessings”. Other commentators (e.g., Baghawi and Ibn Kathir) do not subscribe to this interpretation – which would imply the use of negative definitions – and understand
the last verse of the surah in the manner rendered by me above. As regards the two categories
of people following a wrong course, some of the greatest Islamic thinkers (e.g., Al-Ghazali
or, in recent times, Muhammad ‘Abduh) held the view that the people described as having
incurred “God’s condemnation” – that is, having deprived themselves of His grace – are those
who have become fully cognizant of God’s message and, having understood it, have rejected it;
while by “those who go astray” are meant people whom the truth has either not reached at all,
or to whom it has come in so garbled and corrupted a form as to make it difficult for them
to recognize it as the truth (see ‘Abduh in Manar 1,68 ff.).
PS I know nobody gives a shit on here but it’s important to bring forth evidence when we make such claims, even if it’s against the evilness of disgusting Islam.
CogitoErgoSumsays
Lebel, people who have rejected God’s message = Jews who rejected Muhammad as a prophet. People who have gone astray = Christians who heard the message of Jesus about Islam but were led astray by people like St. Paul. I don’t see why this could not be a correct interpretation. It’s what Muslims believe, is it not?
lebelsays
Well I just provided evidence to the contrary so maybe we can find scholars who think this verse refers to Christians and Jews. Should not be harder than a google search. In any case there certainly is not a consensus on that by any stretch as I have shown.
gravenimagesays
What claptrap from lebel. Note that he is quoting Muhammad Asad–a convert to Islam named Leopold Weiss. His whole shtick was making Islam more palatable for Infidels.
Here is the reality. This, from the Sahih Hadith and orthodox Tasfir:
Narrated Adi bin Hatim: I asked Allah’s Messenger about the Statement of Allah: “Gharil maghdubi ‘alaihim [not (the way) of those who earned Your Anger],” he replied: “They are the Jews”. And 2: “Walad dallin (nor of those who went astray),” he replied: “The Christians, and they are the ones who went astray”. [This Hadith is quoted by At-Tirmidhi and Abu Dawud]. (Dr. Muhammad Taqi-ud-Din al-Hilali and Dr. Muhammad Muhsin Khan, Interpretation of the Meanings of the Noble Qur’an in the English Language with Comments from Tafsir At-Tabari, Tafsir Al-Qurtubi and Tafsir Ibn Kathir and Ahadith from Sahih Al-Bukhari, Sahih Muslim and other Ahadith books.
And
the path of those whom You have favoured, with guidance (from alladhina together with its relative clause is substituted by [ghayri l-maghdubi ‘alayhim]) not [the path] of those against whom there is wrath, namely, the Jews, and nor of those who are astray, namely, the Christians. The subtle meaning implied by this substitution is that the guided ones are neither the Jews nor the Christians. But God knows best what is right, and to Him is the Return and the [final] Resort. May God bless our lord Muhammad (s), his family and companions and grant them everlasting peace. Sufficient is God for us; an excellent Guardian is He. There is no power and no strength save in God, the High, the Tremendous. (Tafsir al-Jalalayn)
There are, of course, many other examples, as lebel no doubt well knows.
CogitoErgoSumsays
Lebel, of course, the words of the fatiha could apply to any others outside of Islam and even to some inside Islam who do wrong. But how is this evidence to the contrary? If Jews earn the wrath of Allah by rejecting Muhammad and Christians are no longer on the right path, wouldn’t it be true to say that a person reciting the fatiha is asking Allah to keep him from being like a Jew or Christian? If I were to ask God to bless me and keep me from being like the ones who reject Christ as their Savior, would not Muslims be among those people who reject Christ? Would I not be asking God to keep me from being like a Muslim? You are trying to hide the truth in the bushes.
sfsays
we will loose our nation thru name-calling…
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keya says
Why was that pisslim ape allowed in a Catholic School. Would the pisslims allow a priest to say the Lord’s Prayer in an Islamic school? So sickening!!
mortimer says
Yes, ‘sickening’, because there is no excuse for not knowing this material. It’s easily findable on the internet.
Muslims recite the Fatiha 17 times a day and insult JEWS and CHRISTIANS 17 times a day … this adds up to thousands of brainwashings in a lifetime.
Janet Londagin says
These are children. They aren’t expected to know everything.
CRUSADER says
Isn’t calling the Muslim an “ape”
basically doing to him what he does to others?
Watto35 says
Except when he calls others apes it is an insult; when we call him an ape it’s true.
Mary says
Isn’t it insulting to apes to call muslims apes?
WPM says
I am sure the communist Pope is happy and agrees with children renouncing there faith in a catholic school in favor of politically signaling they hate western society and are all quality of having parents who are being evil capitalist. Are all the children now consider Moslems now?
andra says
If they have repeated it three times and if there were enough male Muslims around the Muslims consider them as converts now.
I thought only the Europeans were so stupid to send their Children to the Muslims for a brainwash. But we see, the South Americans are as stupid as we are.
What has happened to destroy the Christian self respect so completely?
Mark Berlinger says
Bergoglio and the Church of Nice. Church Militant and Taylor Marshall report the failure and cover up of the leadership.
marc says
Was just provided an original video here, adding for the record https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCHbDjwx4oM&feature=share
gravenimage says
Thank you, Marc.
WPM says
not “quality” I meant guilty ,auto correct and push wrong first letter in word by accident .
Ashley says
Damn! I’ve had computer problems and can’t view the clip…
Perhaps it is just as well. It sounds revolting.
Rufolino says
Revolting, yes, but not all that surprising.
Only the other day in Philadelphia we had tiny tots singing about decapitation.
gravenimage says
Yes–a hideous story.
CogitoErgoSum says
“… and lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil. Amen” It would have been better if the ones responsible for the care of these children had been tossed into the sea with a millstone around the neck. They have placed temptation before these children and delivered them into the presence of evil.
PRCS says
There is no GOOD reason for the parents to have not had the ‘cleric’ inform them–in advance–for an Arabic to Portuguese (?) translation of the Fatiha.
How did they finally learn what it really meant?
FYI says
“the Spirit produces Love,Joy,peace,patience,kindness,goodness,faithfulness,humility and self-control”
Galatians 5:22-23
But we see none of that in islam do we?
we see the OPPOSITE..
:hatred,misery,war,impatience,meanness,evil,untrustworthiness,pride and no self-control.
These are the fruits of AL lah “the BEST of deceivers” k3:54;a god whose Greatest enemy is Malik al Amlak
{“The king of kings”}Sahih muslim vol 5 hadith #5611
Al lah,the pagan Arab god’s enemy is ..Jesus Christ!
muslims are not necessarily evil of course. but islam is EVIL.
Keep islam out of Christian or Jewish schools!
Predictably al Ilah,the pagan Arab god of murder and mayhem..please note..tells muslims NOT to believe in God’s Spirit {see koran 4:171}
CogitoErgoSum says
I doubt if the liar leading the prayer explained to the children that Jesus is not the Son of God but only a failed prophet who will one day return to break their crosses and cut off their heads if they fail to renounce Christianity and become Muslims. Watching this is gut wrenching and heartbreaking at the same time.
PRCS says
Of course not.
Just as Omar Suleiman said God, not Allah at that congressional invocation.
Pushing the bogus notion that God and Allah are one and the same.
CRUSADER says
OR…. by having Omar Sillyman at Congress invocation for Ramadan
state “God” rather than “Allah”…. it is one step closer to Omar converting
from Islam….
Look on the bright side of that!
PRCS says
I’ll try.
gravenimage says
Catholics tricked into insulting themselves at Brazilian Catholic School
…………………
Disgusting to see this kind of clueless dhimmitude coming out of Brazil. No place is safe now.
Lydia Church says
Idiots!!!
Meturaf says
Somewhere in Brazil is a cleric of the Christian faith who needs to be tarred feathered and run out of the country.
na says
The future of Christianity, Hinduism, Buddhism, Communism is almost finished. Future religion is Judaism, Zionism and Islam. But I do not blame Judaism . In Abrahamic religion Judaism is far better than other two.
The next world war chances are , circumcised vs non circumcised people.
gravenimage says
Actually, Judaism is a very small faith. There are only about 14 million Jews worldwide–compared with about 1.6 Muslims and over 2 billion Christians.
Zionism is not a religion–it is a movement originally for the establishment of a Jewish national or religious community in Palestine and later for the support of modern Israel. What do you have against Israel? This is a democratic state with equal rights for all citizens–very unlike Islam.
Most of the people who talk about “Abrahamic religions” are Muslims hoping for reflected gravitas from associating Islam with Christianity and Judaism.
As for your bizarre claim about those who are circumcised, surely you are aware that Muslim *hate* Jews and their scripture calls for the genocide of the Jews. Muslims would not ally with Jews, and Jews have no interest in taking over the world.
There are also a lot of people who are circumcised for non-religious reasons–boys being circumcised in the US, while not as universal as it once was, is still the norm here.
lebel says
Why does the Fatiha contain insults to Jews and Christians? they are not named in it. Here is an explanation of this particular verse:
” According to almost all the commentators, God’s “condemnation” (ghadab, lit., “wrath”) is
synonymous with the evil consequences which man brings upon himself by wilfully rejecting
God’s guidance and acting contrary to His injunctions. Some commentators (e.g., Zamakhshari)
interpret this passage as follows: “… the way of those upon whom Thou hast bestowed Thy
blessings – those who have not been condemned [by Thee], and who do not go astray”: in
other words, they regard the last two expressions as defining “those upon whom Thou hast
bestowed Thy blessings”. Other commentators (e.g., Baghawi and Ibn Kathir) do not subscribe to this interpretation – which would imply the use of negative definitions – and understand
the last verse of the surah in the manner rendered by me above. As regards the two categories
of people following a wrong course, some of the greatest Islamic thinkers (e.g., Al-Ghazali
or, in recent times, Muhammad ‘Abduh) held the view that the people described as having
incurred “God’s condemnation” – that is, having deprived themselves of His grace – are those
who have become fully cognizant of God’s message and, having understood it, have rejected it;
while by “those who go astray” are meant people whom the truth has either not reached at all,
or to whom it has come in so garbled and corrupted a form as to make it difficult for them
to recognize it as the truth (see ‘Abduh in Manar 1,68 ff.).
Source: http://www.muhammad-asad.com/Message-of-Quran.pdf
PS I know nobody gives a shit on here but it’s important to bring forth evidence when we make such claims, even if it’s against the evilness of disgusting Islam.
CogitoErgoSum says
Lebel, people who have rejected God’s message = Jews who rejected Muhammad as a prophet. People who have gone astray = Christians who heard the message of Jesus about Islam but were led astray by people like St. Paul. I don’t see why this could not be a correct interpretation. It’s what Muslims believe, is it not?
lebel says
Well I just provided evidence to the contrary so maybe we can find scholars who think this verse refers to Christians and Jews. Should not be harder than a google search. In any case there certainly is not a consensus on that by any stretch as I have shown.
gravenimage says
What claptrap from lebel. Note that he is quoting Muhammad Asad–a convert to Islam named Leopold Weiss. His whole shtick was making Islam more palatable for Infidels.
Here is the reality. This, from the Sahih Hadith and orthodox Tasfir:
Narrated Adi bin Hatim: I asked Allah’s Messenger about the Statement of Allah: “Gharil maghdubi ‘alaihim [not (the way) of those who earned Your Anger],” he replied: “They are the Jews”. And 2: “Walad dallin (nor of those who went astray),” he replied: “The Christians, and they are the ones who went astray”. [This Hadith is quoted by At-Tirmidhi and Abu Dawud]. (Dr. Muhammad Taqi-ud-Din al-Hilali and Dr. Muhammad Muhsin Khan, Interpretation of the Meanings of the Noble Qur’an in the English Language with Comments from Tafsir At-Tabari, Tafsir Al-Qurtubi and Tafsir Ibn Kathir and Ahadith from Sahih Al-Bukhari, Sahih Muslim and other Ahadith books.
And
the path of those whom You have favoured, with guidance (from alladhina together with its relative clause is substituted by [ghayri l-maghdubi ‘alayhim]) not [the path] of those against whom there is wrath, namely, the Jews, and nor of those who are astray, namely, the Christians. The subtle meaning implied by this substitution is that the guided ones are neither the Jews nor the Christians. But God knows best what is right, and to Him is the Return and the [final] Resort. May God bless our lord Muhammad (s), his family and companions and grant them everlasting peace. Sufficient is God for us; an excellent Guardian is He. There is no power and no strength save in God, the High, the Tremendous. (Tafsir al-Jalalayn)
There are, of course, many other examples, as lebel no doubt well knows.
CogitoErgoSum says
Lebel, of course, the words of the fatiha could apply to any others outside of Islam and even to some inside Islam who do wrong. But how is this evidence to the contrary? If Jews earn the wrath of Allah by rejecting Muhammad and Christians are no longer on the right path, wouldn’t it be true to say that a person reciting the fatiha is asking Allah to keep him from being like a Jew or Christian? If I were to ask God to bless me and keep me from being like the ones who reject Christ as their Savior, would not Muslims be among those people who reject Christ? Would I not be asking God to keep me from being like a Muslim? You are trying to hide the truth in the bushes.
sf says
we will loose our nation thru name-calling…