Robert Spencer discusses a popular tweet that became a meme, from Dr. Craig Considine of Rice University. In the tweet, Considine explains how an Islamophobe is “a person who doesn’t know any Muslims in real life”. Robert Spencer gives his own thoughts on the word “Islamophobe”.
Jim J Fox says
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mortimer says
Contrary to what Considine claims, the opinions of ordinary Muslims are not what defines Islam. There are PRACTICING Muslims and non-observant Muslims. THE DO NOT *VOTE* on what is in Islamic doctrine. It is thus TOTALLY IRRELEVANT whether one knows a Muslim or not, because the DOCTRINES OF ISLAM are HIGHLY CODIFIED and WRITTEN DOWN IN MANUALS OF SHARIA LAW and thus the OPINIONS of ordinary Muslims have NO BEARING WHATSOEVER on Islamic teaching.
Considine is a slick sharpie trying to pull a fast one.
Jim J Fox says
OK now?
Judging by his comment, Considine has minuscule knowledge of Islam.
In contrast, Robert is as usual, spot on.
I lived in Turkey for a year or 2 & found many muslims to be generous, helpful and very friendly. Thus I see the ‘average’ muslim as a VICTIM of Islam- except those who know the Islamic teachings fully, i.e. ‘extremists’.
mortimer says
Disagree that Considine has a minuscule knowledge of Islam. I think he has been paid to SELECT somewhat tolerant MECCAN VERSION OF ISLAM and PROMOTE THAT, while at the same time dismissing and ignoring the violent and intolerant MEDINAN VERSION OF ISLAM.
Both versions are authentic even though they are contradictory.
mortimer says
While I value the personal observations of Mr. Fox in Turkey, the polite, courteous people he met in Turkey most likely have not studied Al Walaa wal Baraa and if they have, they are merely being polite while hiding their essential hatred of kafirs.
For Dr. Considine, I quote Islam’s authorities:
-Imam Abdul-Latif ibn Abdur-Rahman Rahimullah said, “It is not possible for someone to realize Tawheed (Islamic faith) and act upon it, and yet not be HOSTILE against the mushrikeen (i.e. wrong worshippers). So anyone who isn’t HOSTILE against the mushrikeen, then it cannot be said that he acts upon Tawheed nor that he realizes it.” [ad-Durar as-Saniyyah 8/167]
-“The doctrine of al Walaa wal Baraa is the REAL IMAGE for the actual practice of this faith.” – source “Al Walaa wal Baraa According to the Aqeedah of the Salaf”, by Sheikh Muhammad Saeed al Qatani, authoritative Saudi Sharia lawyer and imam at the Abu Bakr and Al Furqan Mosques in Mecca.
Checkmate, Dr. Considine.
J D.S says
Agree Mortimer…When muhammad found that people didn’t flock to his man made religion he did an about face and then his Medina islam became a FORCE and FEAR religion. and that along with the APOSTATE LAW has been the cement that has held Islam in place these many centuries.
That said..many college professors, such as this guy, don’t really know the REAL islam and their association with muslims and muslim professors don’t let the REAL Islam come into view .These muslims portray themselves as docile while actually they are hiding their real self.
Robert Spencer and a few others see through this falsehood and tell us the truth…..
The problem…There are just too many out there who just don’t care or don’t get involved.
DEAR GOD..PLEASE SAVE US FROM OURSELVES!
alex reid says
The Muslim Apologists call anyone criticising Islam an “Islamophobe”. A phobia is an irrational fear of something. Speaking out/writing about Islam & its true meanings in a clear, concise, logical manner is not being irrational at all. The new definition of “Islamophobe” is: ‘A person who is a non-Muslim who knows too much about Islam.
I’ve made comments on youtube.com on some of the various clips re. Islam & Muslims & receive E-mails from Muslims, especially when I pass comment on the Koran. Their reply is usually: “It doesn’t say that in the Koran.”
However, after 15-20minutes research, I reply to them with the Chapter, Verse & actual words supporting my side of the argument.
Funny though, they never get back in touch.
mortimer says
The term ‘Islamophobia’ is a perfect example of PSYCHOLOGICAL PROJECTION … the act of attributing to others the unattractive traits of oneself.
‘Islamophobia’ is the mirror image of Islam’s doctrine of HATE and APARTHEID called AL WALAA WAL BARAA.
Muslims are required and indeed obligated to direct hatred and hostility against the disbelieving kafirs ‘for the sake of Allah’.
To call non-Muslims ISLAMOPHOBES when they criticize Islam’s ‘BARAA’ doctrine is sheer hypocrisy since Muslims have a COMPULSORY and ‘ESSENTIAL’ TEACHING OF HATE.
Muslims who do not hate the kafirs and SHOW HOSTILITY towards them will not enter Islamic paradise.
gravenimage says
True, Mortimer.
CRUSADER says
“a person who doesn’t know any Muslims in real life”.
Frankly, I would be fine and okay with not knowing of any Muslims.
Only because of “jihad” do most of us give any fig for Islam, as it hasn’t
really contributed much to civilization. The world would be better off without it.
Islam hasn’t done a lot for me, nor expanded my world view much at all.
I’d have been alright as it is with the contributions of the Byzantines, Persians,
and Hindus up to now. No need for Islamic influence in life. Art and architecture
already supplied by other cultures. So is food and music. Religion is satisfactory
under the authority of Christ. Nothing more is needed. Nothing is missing. I lack no-thing.
FYI says
Isn’t this Considine the same guy who wrote “muhammed the prophet of love” {2018}?
Love?
Where?
Do show us where there is Love of God or of Fellow man in the immoral life of muhammed the Mass Murderer of Jews{Abu Dawud 4390},the trader in black African Slaves {Sahih muslim 3901} the child rapist?
The 2 chief commandments are completely MISSING in islam and its koran:There is no Love of God or man but there is an islamic doctrine of hate,al walaa wal baraa.
As for christian-muslim relations did Considine MISS..?
1 k9:30 The koran CURSES Christians for believing in Jesus
2 k5:51 “Oh you who believe!Take not the Jews and Christians for friends”
Yet another academic who knows nothing about what the koran actually teaches and what islam truly represents:falsehood and deception.And if he cannot differentiate between muslims and the islamic beliefs they follow,he should try another profession…
As usual, Robert Spencer superbly and expertly demolishes the promoters of the “islamophobia” fraud.
gravenimage says
Here’s this insanity, FYI:
Craig Considine on “Muhammad: Prophet of Love”
Been There Got the Tee Shirt says
It’s sad to see what William Marsh Rice’s legacy is sponsoring.
“A person who doesn’t know any Muslims in real life”. This guy, Dr. Craig Considine, while he may have some credentials, doesn’t have a lick of common sense to make such remarks.
Having lived in Muslim-majority countries for years, and having worked elbow-to-elbow with hundreds of Muslims…does that automatically exclude me from any chance of being an “Islamaphobe”? That’s great to know.
I would like to see if Dr. Considine can provide a clear and concise definition of Islamaphobia, Islamaphobe, and any other of the recently minted terms to try and categorize criticism as racism, unless the definition herein is all he has to say on the matter.
And I guess that makes Winston Churchill an Islamaphobe. No, wait I am sure he must have known many Muslims. So count him out. How about the American sailors who were taken as slaves by the Barbary prirates? Per Dr. CC they couldn’t be Islamaphobes because they certainly knew their slavemasters.
Gosh darn, I am just confused. I better hustle down to 6100 Main St there in Houston and sign up for some of Dr. CC’s courses so I can reprogram myself and not be so confused.
I think the adage, “Judge a person on their actions, and not what they say” applies here nicely, starting with the Mohammed. Sorry he loses. Jesus wins.
CRUSADER says
We win with Jesus.
Glad you got the T-shirt!
😉
CRUSADER says
There is a difference between the person and the belief system.
If only we knew Muslims who are friendly and kind, we would have no animosity toward Islam?
This does not change the words of the Queer’an.
We note reality of the danger Islam poses and the oppression Islam imposes.
To be an Islamophobe is to fear the harm which Islam impresses on people.
Quite distinctive.
James Lincoln says
My new term is:
Islam-abhor-ia
It requires no explanation.
James Asher says
Saying Mohammedanism is good because one knows some good Moslems is like saying Christianity is bad because one knows some bad Christians. What are their writings, what are their actions, for what would their religions excommunicate them?
Oren Wysocki says
People wonder what it would be like to live in A fascist nation, during fascist times, when everything you were taught and were allowed to hear was censored and distorted according to the laws of your nation and your time. Imagine no more, you live in such A nation, you live in such A time. You can read about Genghis khan and how murderous and ferocious he was in many history books and the accounts of multiple nations and tv documentaries. But point out that same conclusion and observation about islams history of 1400 years of brutality, slavery, forced conversion and denial of equal rights to all and you will be attacked by millions of people and an entire globalist leftist organization and movement for being A racist for doing so.
Why would pointing out the aggression and human rights violations of A people be A racist act? Because the people who call themselves anti racist claim that all people are equal. Any observation about the level of crime, the level of violence and the level of persecution committed by muslims will result in determining that muslims have committed vastly more violence and human rights violations than other peoples throughout time including the short lived Mongolians. Therefore, no criticism about arab muslims or black africans is permissible whatsoever, no matter how many people are harmed by them, because to criticize them would be to break the illusion that we are all identical and all equal.
At times the left will tell various illogical lies, like we are outraged at any idea that implies racism and inequality to be true, and therefore you are disturbing our moral fanatical belief system with your racist facts. But this is not the case as can quickly be determined, since if you ask these people if it is ok for muslims to have an after school get together group, or for black people to have one, or for them to have a charity, or to have government programs specifically for their race all are acceptable, but none are acceptable for white people, and often none are acceptable for Jews. This includes claiming that white people are bad and have A history of oppressing others while the so called anti racists claim it is racist for white people or Israelis to point out the crimes, violence and aggression of arab muslims and africans. There are limitless lies they will tell to justify their discriminatory treatment, like black people were slaves, but the fact that white people were slaves of the muslims for longer than black people were slaves of white people, or that Jews were slaves of arab muslims and black muslims more recently than black people were slaves all do not matter. They don’t think its ok for white people to have all white countries in Europe, or Jews to have A Jewish nation in Israel, they do not think that white people should have clubs in Europe or Jews should not be allowed to have their own bars in Israel. All facts don’t matter, and even pointing out contradicting points can cause outbreaks of violence.
Blacks, muslims and many other nonwhites often hate Jews, and white people, and there company, while simultaneously knowing they are dependent on their money which they cannot earn equally themselves and therefore must stick to them like glue, because if white people ever get away, or the Jews do, then they may stop agreeing to share the fruits of their labor with them equally. They have their own neighborhoods and organizations because they get violent against white people who might imagine they are welcome there, and they scream racism against anyone who points out their hypocrisy, with the help of the complicit media.
The white gentile leftist is A somewhat different type of twisted mind, they like most people build their behavior according to what is best for navigating society. That is mostly based on rules like being friendly enough, accommodating, and avoiding unnecessary confrontation. The idea of A people in their midst’s of A lower intellectual standard, achievement level and moral standard, all offend the localized level of morality that white gentiles have. For them black and muslim inequality is an injustice of such greatness that their entire society will be opposed to its exposure, and violence would rightfully befall any white person who exposed black and mullato arab inequality.
This is somewhat true, but how do you explain the orientals, the Jews and all the other non whites not having an issue with racial inequality and never believing in equality in their history ever? You could say they are on A lower moral standard, but then you would have to claim that white gentiles are moral, which is not the case very often, its more based on fear and some type of ignorant conclusion whose source is among the white gentile women. Besides the fact that denial of racial inequality is not fundamentally moral, its immoral when you factor in the consequences, and the Jews are more moral and intelligent than white gentiles on average, and the orientals are very close to their equals and do not share their mental dysfunction in any substantial degree.
American Jews appear to have in part gas lighted themselves into believing that they believe in equality, and another portion of them are lying for convenience or strategy. There sin, similar to that of the Israelis, is that they seem to either have convinced themselves that they are white gentiles, or believe that they need the white gentiles. In the case of the American Jews, their lives are in fact dependent on the maintaining the lie that we are all equal, otherwise the security situation for the majority of Jews will become intolerable. As far as the Israelis go, in as much as the government is following the desires of the Israeli people, it would appear that they are withholding an avalanche of conversations and thoughts, about how logical it is for the Jewish people to attempt to live with gentiles, when they can read about any vote in the UN to realize that the vast majority of nations and A large quantity of people in this world is obsessed and hostile to Jews. Not only that, but history screams that obsession and hostility has been the reaction to Jews for thousands of years in numerous nations. Not A solution likely to be cleared up by some nice words and sharing of universal human values and pleasures. Perhaps the outrage of the Israeli man and woman to the idea of racial inequality is sufficient to perpetuate their need to suffer under the false accusation of racism, or perhaps it is American Jews who perpetuate the censorship in Israel. Either way the situation is unnatural, Jews have rarely been as safe as they are now, the Jewish people and their religion have never believed in equality, although their survival mechanism for when they are concealing themselves from Europeans or middle easterners is to either pretend we are all equal or that islam is supreme.
These facts about the current supposed anti racists of America, Europe and even the middle east are all based on profound lies that can be easily documented, and exposed as lies and discrimination against Jews and white gentiles themselves. They are only currently maintained by censorship, we await the time when G-d removes from us these false accusations of guilt placed by our masters. In G-d I trust.
mortimer says
Islam is a MEDIEVAL POLITICAL IDEOLOGY that denies human rights and civil liberties to women and ‘others’.
‘Islamophobia’ is actually GASLIGHTING and PSYCHOLOGICAL PROJECTION since it is the MIRROR IMAGE of Islam’s essential teaching of hatred directed by Muslims against the disbelievers.
gravenimage says
+1
IanB says
Considine explains how an Islamophobe is “a person who doesn’t know any Muslims in real life”.
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I say an Islamophile is someone completely and wilfully ignorant of Islam.
gravenimage says
Robert Spencer talks about “Islamophobia” on “What do you Meme”
Dr. Craig Considine of Rice University. In the tweet, Considine explains how an Islamophobe is “a person who doesn’t know any Muslims in real life”.
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Fine video–and good to see Robert Spencer here.
Firstly, as noted, whether one personally knows any Muslims or not says nothing about what Islam itself teaches. This is especially true given that Muslims are specifically told that they can lie to unbelievers about Islam.
And would anyone ever say this about any other group? Of course not. I have not personally, so far as I know, met any Amish or Yezidis or Eritrean Jews. This does not, however, mean that I have any animus or negative feelings about any of these people or their beliefs.
The idea that if you have met any people that you ergo hate or fear them is obviously absurd.
na says
new names of isis terrorists are abu barkan,abu fayudan, abu tumtir, abu almawt etc horrific