“At least a half dozen civilians were killed in the northwestern countryside of the Hama Governorate.” Hama is the fourth-largest city in Syria after Damascus, Aleppo and it has two Christian cities, Sqaylabiyeh and Mhardeh, which are targets of jihadists, and when they do attack, “the Russian Air Force responds by launching airstrikes against the militants.”
This time however, jihadists succeeded in murdering six innocent civilians and injuring six children as a result of a bombardment of “several artillery shells and missiles… towards Sqaylabiyeh near the Idlib Governorate border.”
Hama was taken by Islamic conquest in 637AD. Its main Christian church was turned into a grand mosque. The 1400 year jihad against Christians and minorities continues, amid shouts of “Islamophobia” .
“Militants kill 6 civilians in new attack on Christian city in northwest Hama”, Almasdar News (Thanks to The Religion of Peace), May 12, 2019:
BEIRUT, LEBANON (6:00 P.M.) – At least a half dozen civilians were killed in the northwestern countryside of the Hama Governorate on Sunday, a source in the area told Al-Masdar News.
According to the source, the civilians were killed when the militants fired several artillery shells and missiles towards the Christian city of Sqaylabiyeh near the Idlib Governorate border.
Among the six civilians killed on Sunday were five children and one woman. Several others were badly wounded as a result of this indiscriminate attack on Suqaylabiyeh.
Typically, when the militants assault either Sqaylabiyeh or Mhardeh, two Christian cities in Hama, the Russian Air Force responds by launching airstrikes against the militants responsible for the attack…..

christianblood says
Not only the current Pope is siding with muslims but the US and Nato are also siding with muslim jihadists that are exterminating Christians in the ME. I have absolute certainty that the jihadists that attacked this Syrian Christian town are trained by the CIA and are using arms given to them by the CIA through the Saudis!
Mario Alexis Portella says
So much for the religion of peace, especially during Ramadan!
CRUSADER says
Amen
+ + +
b.a. freeman says
actually, if i’m not mistaken, killing done during ramadingdong is worth *much* more in the eyes of allah the sock puppet than killing done at any other time. if anything, we should expect *far* more jihad then, and i’m fairly certain the record bears this out.
oldblindjohn says
Replying to
@mehdirhasan
Syria: Christian city attacked by jihadist militia missiles killing 6 civilians, injuring 6 children
Any comment or condemnation of terror?
Is it ok that I post this here in case I get suspended from twitter by a muslim again?
CRUSADER says
“chrisitanblood” —
How Putin Weaponized Wikileaks….
https://www.defenseone.com/technology/2016/07/how-putin-weaponized-wikileaks-influence-election-american-president/130163/
christianblood says
CRUSADER
Putin, Putin, Putin Bad! Russia, Russia, Russia Bad!
That US/Western Mantra! More of this below:
https://russia-insider.com/en/christianity/new-us-political-thriller-about-rising-christianity-russia-insanity-western-elites-they
CRUSADER says
“Putin’ on the Ritz!”
Vladimir Putin scores eight goals in ice hockey match then falls over on victory lap…
No Russian Hockey Player Dares Defend Against All-Powerful Putin!
gravenimage says
It’s a potempkin village on ice!
gravenimage says
christianblood *does* understand that “The Madonna Files” is fiction, right?
kuriakose says
christianbloood, you do raise up valid points on the US-Nato covert support for jihadis in their aim to destabilise and bring down unfriendly regimes. Question arises then as to what the defintion of unfriendly regimes is to the leaders of US, EU.
Only thing I do not agree with you is that Hezbollah is a force for good. They are still muhameddans and it is totally unwise to trust them. Sunni/Shia are just two sides of a vile coin. But I’m sure Putin is aware of that, and he has proven to be a very smart and able President so far. It is a shame that some here just want to call him a thug, and make claims he is interfering in other countries politics when the US and its allies has been doing that since the end of WW2. US bases in the middle east for example are to protect their interests as well as their despotic rulers there.
The west has long lost its moral compass and slipped into decadence. And the consequences are going to be unpleasant. It is not me wishing ill upon the west, but that is the inevitable result of such decadence. Call it karma if you will.
christianblood says
kuriakose posted
(…The west has long lost its moral compass and slipped into decadence. And the consequences are going to be unpleasant…)
Well-said, a good example of that is Western leaders called the recently massacred Christians in Sri-Lanka “Easter Worshipers” refusing to use the word “Christians”. Their spiritual and moral degeneracy is mind-boggling!
gravenimage says
kuriakose, Putin is also appeasing Islam–building mega-Mosques for Muslims in Moscow, enabling a nuclear Iran, and allowing Chechnya to become a Shari’ah state.
Sadly, I don’t think any of these things are “smart”.
gravenimage says
Of course, christianblood does not say that many Westerners called Obama and Clinton out on not using the word Christian–including, of course, Iben Thranholm herself.
“Obama, Clinton, Democrats Denounce Attacks on ‘Easter Worshippers,’ Not ‘Christians’”
https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2019/04/22/obama-clinton-democrats-denounce-attacks-on-easter-worshippers-not-christians/
He want us to ignore this, of course–as well as the almost 7,000 comments there.
There are many similar articles.
kuriakose says
GI, you are entitled to your opinion of course. But the West remains the greatest enemy of Christianity. And the filth and decadence prevailing there can only invite in the end, judgement from God. That’s why muhameddans are being allowed to run freely into the west and cause havoc. You do understand karma don’t you?
Quote from Patrick Sookhdeo’s book: The Death of Western Christianity
‘ Today, the Church is scarcely distinguishable from society. . . . This has left the Church facing a fatal crisis of identity. Desperate to survive and remain relevant, it has struck a Faustian bargain with postmodern Western ideals, tolerating and taking on unorthodox beliefs and behaviours. This has, in fact, produced the opposite effect, alienating even more people and making the Church an object of ridicule…..
He notes that not only is the West promoting its decadent and debased values and beliefs around the world, but so too is the church. A Western church awash in materialism, self-centredness, bogus health and wealth gospels, and a fixation on self-esteem is promoting those bogus beliefs and values around the world.
As to Chechnya, I can’t see how Putin can act any differently because Chechnya is really an autonomous republic, and rather than have it fall to despots under control of the West, he has no choice but to allow that. You are correct in that some Russian leaders are claiming kinship between Orthodox Christianity and islam, which is patently false. Remember too Russia has a far bigger population of muslims than US, Europe, etc. And see the mess in West Europe.
The actions of the US lead us to believe that the US is nothing but a proxy for the big global interests, ie its actions are more geared to protecting these interests.
christianblood says
kuriakose posted
(..But the West remains the greatest enemy of Christianity. And the filth and decadence prevailing there can only invite in the end, judgement from God. That’s why muhameddans are being allowed to run freely into the west and cause havoc..)
Absolutely right! The satanic, hollywoodized West is destroying Christianity through their proxy Islamists! The bloody, materialistic satanic West rewards Al-Qaeda with oscars and no one talks about it!
gravenimage says
kuriakose wrote:
GI, you are entitled to your opinion of course. But the West remains the greatest enemy of Christianity.
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Ah…right. Ignore those Muslims committing genocide against Christians–the real problem is the free West.
More:
And the filth and decadence prevailing there can only invite in the end, judgement from God. That’s why muhameddans are being allowed to run freely into the west and cause havoc. You do understand karma don’t you?
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Right–the claim that everyone in the West deserves to be enslaved or murdered by Muslims, and that this is the “judgement from God”.
Likewise, christianblood constantly demands that God allow Muslims to conquer the West. Recently when I objected to this, he said that they should “start from gravenimage”. When I pointed out that this would likely mean my being gang-raped and beheaded by Muslims, he said my not welcoming this was rejecting the Truth of Christ.
More:
Quote from Patrick Sookhdeo’s book: The Death of Western Christianity
‘ Today, the Church is scarcely distinguishable from society. . . . This has left the Church facing a fatal crisis of identity. Desperate to survive and remain relevant, it has struck a Faustian bargain with postmodern Western ideals, tolerating and taking on unorthodox beliefs and behaviours. This has, in fact, produced the opposite effect, alienating even more people and making the Church an object of ridicule…..
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This is true. The implication that Patrick Sookhdeo is calling for Muslims to take over and enslave us is *quite* false, however.
More:
He notes that not only is the West promoting its decadent and debased values and beliefs around the world, but so too is the church. A Western church awash in materialism, self-centredness, bogus health and wealth gospels, and a fixation on self-esteem is promoting those bogus beliefs and values around the world.
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A lot of this *is* very silly, and has little to do with Christianity. The idea that the horrors of Islam are an improvement on this is just grotesque, however.
More:
As to Chechnya, I can’t see how Putin can act any differently because Chechnya is really an autonomous republic, and rather than have it fall to despots under control of the West, he has no choice but to allow that.
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What? Where does it say in Russian law that Shari’ah law should be imposed on Russian soil?
And the idea that the appalling Ramzan Kadyrov is *not* a tyrant is very questionable. Is kuriakose lauding Chechnya murdering gays in concentration camps, enforcing veiling, allowing “Honor Killings”, and persecuting Christians? It sounds like it–this is what christianblood does.
And the implication that this is all fine, but that the only problem would be their adopting Western values would be a threat is just bizarre (And no–this is *not* apt to happen).
More:
You are correct in that some Russian leaders are claiming kinship between Orthodox Christianity and islam, which is patently false.
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This is true. That kuriakose considers this less troubling than health and self-esteem in the West is quite disturbing, though.
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Remember too Russia has a far bigger population of muslims than US, Europe, etc. And see the mess in West Europe.
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Well, this is true. But appeasing Muslims when there are so many of them, and their presenting such a huge threat, is *especially* unwise
More:
The actions of the US lead us to believe that the US is nothing but a proxy for the big global interests, ie its actions are more geared to protecting these interests.
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Who is “us”?
gravenimage says
Once again, christianblood considers the Oscar for documentaries to be the world’s greatest threat…
Never mind that the Academy Award’s viewership is tanking the more leftist and “politically correct” it gets.
“PC Sermonizing Will Make Oscar Viewers Change Channels”
https://www.newsmax.com/jameshirsen/academy-awards-left-liberal/2018/01/29/id/840039/
Viewership is just a little over half what it was twenty years ago–and much of the remaining viewership is due to tradition that that Academy Awards are no longer maintaining. christianblood doesn’t want anyone to know this, though.
christianblood says
gravenimage
THE SATANIC, ANTI-CHRIST, DEGENERATE HOLLYWOOD GIVES OSCARS TO SYRIAN AL-QAEDA “WHITE HELMETS” AND NO ONE TALKS ABOUT IT! THIS BEYOND OUTRAGEOUS! I CAN’T UNDERSTAND WHY GOD IS WATCHING THIS OR TOLERATING THIS!!!!
gravenimage says
Once again, christianblood is enraged that God has not allowed Muslims to conquer the West and murder us all.
kuriakose says
GI yet again I urge you to READ PROPERLY. Or is it beyond you?
Quote: The implication that Patrick Sookhdeo is calling for Muslims to take over and enslave us is *quite* false, however.
You seem to have real issues in understanding what I was trying to say. I just stated that such decadence can only lead to the weakening of soceity, making it vulnerable to attacks from within and without. Doesn’t the Bible say the same thing?
All great civilisations in the past fell because it started to get rotten within, making it weak and susceptible to external attacks. And that is precisely what is happening in the west. But, no, you need to twist and put words in my mouth.
You brush off serious issues within the west by saying it is rot; however, for example the introduction of gender queer nonsense into the school curriculum is already happening.
And the University of Kent has already embarked on the project to claim that the quran influenced western civilisation. You are only sticking your head in the sand and refusing to see all the ominous signs.
‘ He notes that not only is the West promoting its decadent and debased values and beliefs around the world, but so too is the church. A Western church awash in materialism, self-centredness, bogus health and wealth gospels, and a fixation on self-esteem is promoting those bogus beliefs and values around the world.
Your quote: A lot of this *is* very silly, and has little to do with Christianity. The idea that the horrors of Islam are an improvement on this is just grotesque, however.
How many real Christians are left in the West? You really do not seem to understand much of what Patrick is trying to say.
‘ Your quote: A lot of this *is* very silly, and has little to do with Christianity. The idea that the horrors of Islam are an improvement on this is just grotesque, however.
ONCE AGAIN, you put words into my mouth. Where did I ever say such a thing? Shame on you again. You don’t seem to know how to read and comprehend.
ALL I SAID is that there will be consequences. None of these do I wish upon anyone. Look at the past, how many times the Jews were carried off into captivity? And why? Doesn’t the Bible tell you why?
Once again, I ask you how many real Christians are left in the West. What Patrick states is all too true, many of the churches have fallen into apostasy and are preaching a different kind of Gospel. Read Revelations and see the warning from God about such churches.
Please learn to discuss properly, do not be clouded by emotion and anger, do not deliberately misunderstand me.
AND HAVE THE GRACE TO APOLOGISE FOR YOUR RIDICULOUS UNWARRANTED ACCUSATIONS-eg I am a hezbollah supporter, I want the west to be invaded by muhameddans etc.
Study history and see what happened to Christian countries that were taken over by muhameddans-internal traitors who sold out for monetary gain, blandishments, dissension etc.
Go keep sticking your head in the sand:
Here is an excerpt from an article by Bill Meuhlenberg (someone who actually reads, understands the Bible very well, and is very much aware of the dangers of islam).
As Islam grows and grows in the UK, Christianity is becoming an endangered species. Whereas not all that long ago England and the West sent out Christian missionaries to share the good news with the rest of the world, today it is getting harder and harder to preach the gospel there – increasingly you risk being arrested.
And the real irony here is we had a man from Africa doing the preaching. We used to send Christians to Africa to evangelise them and set up churches. Today we have preachers from Africa and elsewhere coming to re-evangelise the West.
How the tide had turned. But America is in the same boat. The US once led the world in sending out missionaries to the rest of the planet. Now American Christianity is also struggling, while African believers seek to keep it afloat…
From How the West Was Won – and Lost
https://billmuehlenberg.com/2019/02/28/how-the-west-was-won-and-lost/
gravenimage says
kuriakose wrote:
GI yet again I urge you to READ PROPERLY. Or is it beyond you?
Quote: The implication that Patrick Sookhdeo is calling for Muslims to take over and enslave us is *quite* false, however.
You seem to have real issues in understanding what I was trying to say. I just stated that such decadence can only lead to the weakening of soceity (sic), making it vulnerable to attacks from within and without. Doesn’t the Bible say the same thing?
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Actually, kuriakose said that “the filth and decadence prevailing there can only invite in the end, judgement from God. That’s why muhameddans are being allowed to run freely into the west and cause havoc. You do understand karma don’t you?'”, implying that we deserve to be attacked by Muslims, and that God wants the same.
He then posted the quote from Patrick Soodkhdeo, implying that he supports the desire for Muslims to conquer us.
But Patrick Soodkhdeo has never implied any such thing–instead, he is hoping to *save* Infidels from the depredations of Islam.
More:
But, no, you need to twist and put words in my mouth.
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In what way? Notice that kuriakose in incapable of citing any point here–not really a surprise.
More:
All great civilisations in the past fell because it started to get rotten within, making it weak and susceptible to external attacks. And that is precisely what is happening in the west…West
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The West *is* in trouble. Part of that, of course, is having those like kuriakose preaching that our being conquered by Muslims is deserved–that it is our karma.
More:
You brush off serious issues within the west by saying it is rot; however, for example the introduction of gender queer nonsense into the school curriculum is already happening.
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Yes, it is happening–and many of us here are working to oppose it.
But the idea that any of this will be *improved* by our being invaded by Muslims and having Shari’ah law imposed on us–and that this is *what God himself wants*–is just sick.
Shari’ah law includes, among other horrors, child marriage, the rape of Infidels, slavery and sex slavery, organized oppression of Infidels, including Christians, and the stoning to death of women.
Notice that kuriakose doesn’t say that there is any judgement from God against any of this–nor against the horrors of Jihad terror that would lead to our submission. *Ugh*.
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And the University of Kent has already embarked on the project to claim that the quran influenced western civilisation. You are only sticking your head in the sand and refusing to see all the ominous signs.
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What claptrap–I note the threat of foolish dhimmitude here all the time–the idea that replacing this appeasement of Islam with full Islam is of course grotesque.
More:
‘ He notes that not only is the West promoting its decadent and debased values and beliefs around the world, but so too is the church. A Western church awash in materialism, self-centredness, bogus health and wealth gospels, and a fixation on self-esteem is promoting those bogus beliefs and values around the world.
Your quote: A lot of this *is* very silly, and has little to do with Christianity. The idea that the horrors of Islam are an improvement on this is just grotesque, however.
How many real Christians are left in the West? You really do not seem to understand much of what Patrick is trying to say.
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Again, whatever shortcomings the West has, they will *not* be improved by conquest from Muslims, nor, indeed, is Patrick Soodkhdeo saying that it would.
Patrick Soodkhdeo, in fact, often speaks out against the persecution of Christians, especially in the Muslim world. The idea that he is actually seeking more of the same is grotesque calumny.
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‘ Your quote: A lot of this *is* very silly, and has little to do with Christianity. The idea that the horrors of Islam are an improvement on this is just grotesque, however.
ONCE AGAIN, you put words into my mouth. Where did I ever say such a thing? Shame on you again. You don’t seem to know how to read and comprehend.
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Not at all–kuriakose has said that it is the judgement of God that Muslims conquer us. Some of us are going to fight this, no matter what he may desire.
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ALL I SAID is that there will be consequences. None of these do I wish upon anyone. Look at the past, how many times the Jews were carried off into captivity? And why? Doesn’t the Bible tell you why?
Once again, I ask you how many real Christians are left in the West. What Patrick states is all too true, many of the churches have fallen into apostasy and are preaching a different kind of Gospel. Read Revelations and see the warning from God about such churches.
Please learn to discuss properly, do not be clouded by emotion and anger, do not deliberately misunderstand me.
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Right–the idea that one should not have any feelings over the claim that we deserve to be conquered by Muslims is pretty rich.
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AND HAVE THE GRACE TO APOLOGISE FOR YOUR RIDICULOUS UNWARRANTED ACCUSATIONS-eg I am a hezbollah supporter, I want the west to be invaded by muhameddans etc.
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The former turns out not to have been the case, and was indeed my error, since kuriakose was lauding the appalling christianblood, who does indeed support Hezb’allah. I have already apologized for not having read this more closely.
But the latter is something he has flogged on this very thread. Why would I apologize for his wanting to see the West conquered by Muslims? No thanks.
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Study history and see what happened to Christian countries that were taken over by muhameddans-internal traitors who sold out for monetary gain, blandishments, dissension etc.
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I am actually a historian–I do not need this lesson. And I have written about this many times here. I am *against* Muslims conquering any country–I do not cheer it on or claim that this is what God wants.
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Go keep sticking your head in the sand:
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How is my opposing the horrors of Islam and its enabling by the West “sticking my head in the sand”? This of course makes no sense.
More:
Here is an excerpt from an article by Bill Meuhlenberg (someone who actually reads, understands the Bible very well, and is very much aware of the dangers of islam).
As Islam grows and grows in the UK, Christianity is becoming an endangered species. Whereas not all that long ago England and the West sent out Christian missionaries to share the good news with the rest of the world, today it is getting harder and harder to preach the gospel there – increasingly you risk being arrested.
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I have criticized this myself–why is kuriakose pretending that I have not?
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And the real irony here is we had a man from Africa doing the preaching. We used to send Christians to Africa to evangelise them and set up churches. Today we have preachers from Africa and elsewhere coming to re-evangelise the West.
How the tide had turned. But America is in the same boat. The US once led the world in sending out missionaries to the rest of the planet. Now American Christianity is also struggling, while African believers seek to keep it afloat…
From How the West Was Won – and Lost
https://billmuehlenberg.com/2019/02/28/how-the-west-was-won-and-lost/
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Actually, the US sends more Christian missionaries around the world than does any other nation–127,000 in 2010. But this does not jibe with kuriakose’s idea that the West is decadent and that it is the judgement of God that she fall to pious Muslims. *Ugh*.
kuriakose says
christianblood: An example of the decadence of the west:
Quote: ‘Australian schools should adopt a non-binary approach to gender in a bid to support and educate “genderfluid” and “genderqueer” students, a new guide for teachers says. Even schools without students who identify as non-binary should “shift focus away from binary gender segregation because it is useful for all students”, said leading gender expert Professor Damien Riggs, of Flinders University.
This may include flying “genderqueer flags”, including non-binary examples in teaching and becoming non-binary advocates for students in relation to their parents and carers. It is used by teachers nationally and internationally and is widely promoted to teachers via social media, seminars and conferences. It suggests teachers should avoid dividing children on the basis of gender and let students use their preferred pronouns, which may include ze, hou and thon. Even the currently accepted “they/them” pronoun may not be favoured by non-binary students, the guide says.
Rather, teachers should “check in with people about their pronouns, and do this in a sensitive and confidential way”. Many non-binary people will first disclose their non-binary gender during their school years. A clip in the online resource quotes a non-binary student calling for teachers to become “allies for trans youth”, more “out” teachers and principals, more comprehensive sex education and more teaching about LGBTI issues.
Prof Riggs said “schools can be a positive education force in sharing knowledge and non-binary people”. He said many non-binary people will first disclose their non-binary gender during their school years. Prof Riggs has contributed to more than 150 publications about gender, sexuality and mental health. He is also a psychotherapist working with transgender children under 12, which informed the contents of the guide.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/new-guide-calls-for-nonbinary-approach-at-australian-schools/news-story/c3894f00cbf9a5c40af6f2e4bff7592a
christianblood says
kuriakose
Exactly right! Any country that refuses that cultural marxist degeneracy
is immediately subjected to negative name-calling and even political and economical sanctions by the US and the West! I remember a few years back, when Russia rightly outlawed, Western-sponsored “LGBTQ” degeneracy in Russian schools, Western MSM went into high gear demonizing Russia and its leaders for banning that kind of moral depravity in its public schools! This satanic secular “LGBTQ” perversion is like a new fanatical religion in the West and they are spreading it to the rest of the world but never to Saudi Arabia, their closest allies!
Satan has taken over the West!
gravenimage says
Most of this gender stuff is no doubt extremely stupid.
But note that christianblood has refused to say anything critical about Muslims putting people accused of being gay in concentration camps and murdering them, or hanging them from cranes, as in Chechnya and Iran.
He has also said many times that because the West does not murder gay people that we deserve to be invaded and conquered by Muslims.
Once when I balked at this, he came out in favor of my being gang-raped and beheaded by Muslims, and said that my thinking that this was a bad thing was resisting the Truth of Christ.
kuriakose says
GI:
‘ What? Where does it say in Russian law that Shari’ah law should be imposed on Russian soil?
And the idea that the appalling Ramzan Kadyrov is *not* a tyrant is very questionable. Is kuriakose lauding Chechnya murdering gays in concentration camps, enforcing veiling, allowing “Honor Killings”, and persecuting Christians? It sounds like it–this is what christianblood does’
And the implication that this is all fine, but that the only problem would be their adopting Western values would be a threat is just bizarre (And no–this is *not* apt to happen).
Did I say Khadrov is an angel? Didn’t/doesn’t the US put up with vile dictators because they dancing to America tune? So it is all right for US to do support the very worst kinds? And isn’t the US great friends with the Saudis-it’s okay for them to carry out syariah? After all Saudi Araba need not be of any importance to the US, but oh no, they need to sell arms and technology to keep the elites of the West in good financial health.
… You are correct in that some Russian leaders are claiming kinship between Orthodox Christianity and islam, which is patently false.……………….
This is true. That kuriakose considers this less troubling than health and self-esteem in the West is quite disturbing, though.
What are you babbling about health and self esteem in the west? Aren’t your own leaders and elites destroying that? Exporting jobs to overseas countries to make even bigger profits, ignoring their own populace etc etc? Your countries are being rin by the globalist NWO elites in truth.And aren’t you governments pandering to muslims by turning a blind eye to them practising syariah behind closed doors?
…..Remember too Russia has a far bigger population of muslims than US, Europe, etc. And see the mess in West Europe.………………………….
Well, this is true. But appeasing Muslims when there are so many of them, and their presenting such a huge threat, is *especially* unwise
Very true it is unwise, but I’m not sure they can do much more. Perhaps the Russians should embark on aggresive deprogramming, but then your bloody human rights organisations will have a field day denigrating Russia and trying to impose even more sanctions on them. See the bad publicity Russia received when they acted on the vile pussy riot band. Seems to the West Europeans and the US are doing far less in countering islam.
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The actions of the US lead us to believe that the US is nothing but a proxy for the big global interests, ie its actions are more geared to protecting these interests.
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Who is “us”?
Many do believe that the US has been and is meddling in other countries’ affairs, the ultimate aim is keep control of all the strategic resources of the world for the benefit of their masters. Just go on the internet and see the tons of articles on the US and its activities iin interfering in other nations, ostensibly for the good, but in rality to fill the coffers of the globalists and themselves.
Just because you and your sheep brigade keep shouting some of us down ( I don’t mean muhameddans) when we express some dissenting opinions doesn’t mean you are right.
You are one of the greatest cheerleaders here, but you don’t seem to realise that you are actually doing a great disservice by looking at islam only. In the end you don’t see the trees for the wood.
NOW DO NOT MISQUOTE ME PLEASE. I fully agree that islam is an evil that should be eradicated, however it cannot be done without looking at the broader pictiure. Western freedom and democracy is in reality a sword of damocles, it cuts both ways.
I guess I will never get an apology from you for making those vile accusations against me. You are not much better than the muhameddan in reality then. Like moe and allah, you are always right.
gravenimage says
More from kuriakose:
GI:
‘ What? Where does it say in Russian law that Shari’ah law should be imposed on Russian soil?
And the idea that the appalling Ramzan Kadyrov is *not* a tyrant is very questionable. Is kuriakose lauding Chechnya murdering gays in concentration camps, enforcing veiling, allowing “Honor Killings”, and persecuting Christians? It sounds like it–this is what christianblood does’
And the implication that this is all fine, but that the only problem would be their adopting Western values would be a threat is just bizarre (And no–this is *not* apt to happen).
Did I say Khadrov (sic) is an angel?
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Kadyrov is a Muslim thug who is being allowed to run his own Shari’ah state *on Russian soil*, in violation of Russian law. That kuriakose appears to be fine with this is *very* telling.
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Didn’t/doesn’t the US put up with vile dictators because they dancing to America tune? So it is all right for US to do support the very worst kinds? And isn’t the US great friends with the Saudis-it’s okay for them to carry out syariah? After all Saudi Araba need not be of any importance to the US, but oh no, they need to sell arms and technology to keep the elites of the West in good financial health.
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What the dishonest kuriakose doesn’t mention, of course, is that myself and every other Anti-Jihadist here *condemns* Saudi Arabia. Instead, like christianblood, he is pretending that Jihad Watch is in favor of the horrors of Saudi Arabia, which is utterly false. They are no ally of ours.
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… You are correct in that some Russian leaders are claiming kinship between Orthodox Christianity and islam, which is patently false.……………….
This is true. That kuriakose considers this less troubling than health and self-esteem in the West is quite disturbing, though.
What are you babbling about health and self esteem in the west?
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Actually, it was kuriakose himself who brought this issue up. Has he forgotten his own postings?
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Aren’t your own leaders and elites destroying that? Exporting jobs to overseas countries to make even bigger profits, ignoring their own populace etc etc? Your countries are being rin (sic) by the globalist NWO elites in truth.
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The West still has the greatest opportunities of any region in the world–something kuriakose doesn’t want us to know, apparently.
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And aren’t you (sic) governments pandering to muslims by turning a blind eye to them practising syariah behind closed doors?
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This *is* all too common–and is something I condemn here constantly, as well as work to counter in my own nation. This is something anyone with even a passing familiarity with my posting history here knows. Why is kuriakose pretending otherwise?
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…..Remember too Russia has a far bigger population of muslims than US, Europe, etc. And see the mess in West Europe.………………………….
Well, this is true. But appeasing Muslims when there are so many of them, and their presenting such a huge threat, is *especially* unwise
Very true it is unwise, but I’m not sure they can do much more. Perhaps the Russians should embark on aggresive (sic) deprogramming, but then your bloody human rights organisations will have a field day denigrating Russia and trying to impose even more sanctions on them.
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The idea that Russia has to allow in millions of Muslims to flood in from the former Soviet ‘Stans, to build them mega-Mosques, and to allow Shari’ah law on Russian soil is absurd. To blame the West for this appeasement is even more ludicrous.
In fact, the West has been critical of Chechnya murdering gays and winking at “Honor Killings”, but Russia has never had any problems with this.
Note that kuriakose considers human rights groups to be “bloody”, but has no real problem with the *actual* bloodiness of Shari’ah. Again, very telling.
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See the bad publicity Russia received when they acted on the vile pussy riot band. Seems to the West Europeans and the US are doing far less in countering islam.
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Russia is pretty good at imprisoning nonviolent young women–countering Muslim thugs like Kadyrov, not so much…
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The actions of the US lead us to believe that the US is nothing but a proxy for the big global interests, ie its actions are more geared to protecting these interests.
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Who is “us”?
Many do believe that the US has been and is meddling in other countries’ affairs, the ultimate aim is keep control of all the strategic resources of the world for the benefit of their masters. Just go on the internet and see the tons of articles on the US and its activities iin (sic) interfering in other nations, ostensibly for the good, but in rality (sic) to fill the coffers of the globalists and themselves.
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Presumably kuriakose is here referring to our defending against Jihad. No matter how scattershot this has been from the West, I think it is generally a good thing.
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Just because you and your sheep brigade keep shouting some of us down ( I don’t mean muhameddans) when we express some dissenting opinions doesn’t mean you are right.
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Again, it is impossible to shout someone down in the internet. What kuriakose is angry over is anyone addressing any of his bs.
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You are one of the greatest cheerleaders here, but you don’t seem to realise that you are actually doing a great disservice by looking at islam only. In the end you don’t see the trees for the wood.
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This seems to be another demand for my not saying anything negative about Islam. So sorry–I will not submit to his demands.
And why is kuriakose constantly implying that I do not criticize dhimmitude–when I do so constantly, including on this very thread? Just ridiculous.
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NOW DO NOT MISQUOTE ME PLEASE.
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Where have I ever misquoted kuriakose? What calumny. Citations, please.
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I fully agree that islam is an evil that should be eradicated, however it cannot be done without looking at the broader pictiure (sic). Western freedom and democracy is in reality a sword of damocles, it cuts both ways.
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Of course kuriakose hates freedom and democracy–this should not surprise.
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I guess I will never get an apology from you for making those vile accusations against me.
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What vile accusations might those be? That kuriakose believes that we should be conquered by Muslims? I continue to find this horrific, and will *not* apologize for doing so.
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You are not much better than the muhameddan in reality then. Like moe and allah, you are always right.
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Wait–my opposing Jihad and Shari’ah and those who want to see us fall to it makes me little better than someone who was a warlord, rapist, slaver, pedophile and mass murderer?
Is *this* evidence of what passes for kuriakose’s “morality”? *Ugh*.
R Russell says
Father forgive them, they know not what they do.
The context isn’t accurate, but the sentiment is real.
“…and they cried out with a loud voice, saying, “How long, O Lord, holy and true, will You refrain from judging and avenging our blood on those who dwell on the earth?”
CRUSADER says
Revelation 6:10
R. Spanier (Catholic Canadian) says
March 14, 2019
“It is shameful that the so-called free world was accomplice to that disaster for no reason than satisfying the greed and opportunism of its politicians. All fake news of the agglomerate media, like the show play of chemical attacks attributed to the Syrian soldiers, were based on lies, in order to keep the fighting going on,” Syriac Catholic Patriarch Ignace Joseph III Younan
https://www.irishcatholic.com/catholic-prelates-aghast-at-unspeakable-suffering-in-syria/
February 18, 2016
Bishop Georges Abou Khazen, the apostolic vicar for Aleppo’s Latin-rite Catholics, said that there has been “continuous bombardment of civilians” by “groups that are called the ‘moderate opposition’” but “do not differ from the other jihadists (Islamic State and al-Nusra) other than by name,” according to Vatican Radio. In some parts of the city, the Assad government’s “regular army is advancing with the help of the Russians, and in the liberated areas the operation of water and electricity is beginning again, the schools reopen.”
https://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=27530
November 10, 2015
Syrian Orthodox Patriarch of Antioch and All the East, Mar Ignatius Ephrem II, arrives in Moscow thanks Russia for its support and calls on called on the “United States and other world powers to stop the flow of funds to terrorist organizations and extremist groups ”
http://www.asianews.it/news-en/Ahead-of-Vienna-2,-Syrian-Orthodox-Patriarch-of-Antioch-and-All-the-East-arrives-in-Moscow-35825.html
October 12, 2015
Syrian bishop Jacques Behnan Hindo (Western propaganda keeps talking about moderate rebels, who do not exist.), has expressed similar concerns: The US, France and Britain “only speak of attacking the Daesh (ISIS), but do not speak of the Nusra Front and other Islamist militias linked to Al Qaeda.” Bishop Hindo was outraged by Senator John McCain’s admission that anti-Assad rebels are CIA-trained and said that even ISIS “in some way have been helped by the Americans and their ambiguous attitude.”
http://www.raymondibrahim.com/2015/10/12/syrian-christian-leader-russia-really-targeting-isis-u-s-airstrikes-are-just-window-dressing/
October 6, 2015
A Syrian Catholic archbishop has accused the United States of joining forces with al-Qaeda in an attempt to topple President Bashar Al-Assad. Archbishop Jacques Behnan Hindo of Hassaké-Nisibi said he believed that the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) was arming and training rebel groups in Syria which were al-Qaeda under “a different name”. He said it was misleading for Western politicians to speak of support for “moderate rebels” in Syria because such groups simply did not exist. He also said that Western military interference in his country was misguided because it could make Syria “like Libya”, a country where government and law and order have effectively collapsed amid fighting by rival groups after the US, Britain and France helped to bring down Muammar Gaddafi in 2011.
http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/news/2015/10/06/syrian-archbishop-criticises-us-for-siding-with-al-qaeda/
kuriakose says
R Spanier: Thanks for the links.
But our JW stalwarts will always try to denigrate Russia and defend the US and their Nato allies.
Or blame Obama for all those policies, but the truth is that all these jihadi support came earlier with Carter.
The US-Saudi alliance goes way back to the time oil was discovered in the Middle East.The anger with Russia stems from the fact that they have allied with Hezbollah against the Syrian rebels. Iran is villian number one in their eyes; however for us both Saudi and Shia strongholds are the enemies.
gravenimage says
Looks as though we have another supporter of the Jihad terrorists of Hezb’allah. Very disturbing.
Some of us here think that *all* Jihadists are bad.
And just like christianblood, kuriakose has to pretend that Anti-Jihadists love the horror of Saudi Arabia. This is obvious bs, and is just sad.
kuriakose says
GI, I think you have reading difficulties. Or is it anger that is clouding your mind ?
I said.. The anger with Russia stems from the fact that they have allied with Hezbollah against the Syrian rebels. Iran is villian number one in their eyes
Read further what I said-FOR US (That includes me), BOTH SAUD (ie sunni)I AND SHIA STRONGHOLDS ARE THE ENEMIES.
EXPLAIN TO ME WHERE I BECOME A SUPPORTER OF HEZBOLLAH. Shame on you.
The links posted by R Spanier gives the views of Christian bishops who have contempt for the West’s war on terror seeing them as hypocrites who actually suport Daesh etc. These are not my opinions. So what would you say now-that these Bishops are supporters of Hezbollah?
And why jump on someone who says that the CIA had a hand in some of the terrorists operations? There has been credible evidence of CIA’s hand in supporting jihadis, training them, and destabilising and bringing down regimes for whatever reasons the US sees fit.
You know, you are just sounding like one of the sheep brigade in Animal Farm-shouting loudly to drown out any voices of differing opinions.
The Christians and other persecuted minorities in Syria need real help, not your clucks of sympathy and commiserations. They are not worth much really to people fighting desperately to save their dignities and lives.
gravenimage says
Well, good to hear that kuriakose is not a supporter of Hezb’allah and Iran as is christianblood.
But no–I do not believe that the US having defeated ISIS’s “Caliphate” somehow indicates support for Daesh.
Moreover, Syrian bishop Jacques Behnan Hindo saying “The US, France and Britain “only speak of attacking the Daesh (ISIS)” does not appear to be support for the idea that the US supports Daesh.
And no–my commenting here does not “drown out” the comments of others. kuriakose does not appear to understand how commenting on-line works. My commenting does not mean that he or anyone else cannot post.
Certainly, as I have said many times, our searching for “moderate” Muslims in the region has been a fool’s errand.
And I can see why Christians in the Levant prefer to be oppressed under Assad rather than actually wiped out as in so much of the rest of the Middle East. He is definitely the lesser of the various evils there. This is damning with faint praise, though.
I *do* believe that the defeat of ISIS’s territory by the Americans was a good thing for Christians, though. kuriakose may, of course, disagree.
kuriakose says
GI, I don’t need your condescending ‘glad to know he is not a supporter……
You made a FALSE accusation against me, and you DO NOT HAVE the grace to even apologise.
Yes, you keep trying to drown out our objections with some pathetic semantics.
What does this mean?
‘ A Syrian Catholic archbishop has accused the United States of joining forces with al-Qaeda in an attempt to topple President Bashar Al-Assad. Archbishop Jacques Behnan Hindo of Hassaké-Nisibi said he believed that the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) was arming and training rebel groups in Syria which were al-Qaeda under “a different name”. He said it was misleading for Western politicians to speak of support for “moderate rebels” in Syria because such groups simply did not exist. He also said that Western military interference in his country was misguided because it could make Syria “like Libya”, a country where government and law and order have effectively collapsed amid fighting by rival groups after the US, Britain and France helped to bring down Muammar Gaddafi in 2011.’
Or ‘Syrian Orthodox Patriarch of Antioch and All the East, Mar Ignatius Ephrem II, arrives in Moscow thanks Russia for its support and calls on called on the “United States and other world powers to stop the flow of funds to terrorist organizations and extremist groups ”
I think you seem have reading difficulties or suffer from the inabilty to make logical inferences. Where did the US defeat the terrorists? All bullshit really, theterrorists are regrouping. And in Afghanistan, why is the US still there? Has it won any war there?
You are just full of hate towards the Russians because they have done a better job in dealing with the terrorists than the phoney US war on terror.
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GI, I don’t need your condescending ‘glad to know he is not a supporter……
You made a FALSE accusation against me, and you DO NOT HAVE the grace to even apologise.
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Actually, all that kuriakose said was “The anger with Russia stems from the fact that they have allied with Hezbollah against the Syrian rebels.”. This does not actually imply any antipathy for Hezb’allah.
His reference to “Saudi and Shia strongholds” is quite vague.
And then I said “it looks like”–this is not an accusation.
And given kuriakose’s ranting about how God wants the West to be conquered by Muslims, his sticking at that including Hezb’allah seems bizarre. Why would he be in favor of all Muslims conquering us *except* for Hezb’allah? Hezb’allah is hideous, but not really worse than most other Jihadists.
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Yes, you keep trying to drown out our objections with some pathetic semantics.
What does this mean?
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Yet again, kuriakose appears not to understand how online replies work–no poster can drown out another. Posters can only reply to each others’ comments.
But perhaps it is not the internet that kuriakose fails to understand, but free speech itself? After all, he sneers at freedom, above.
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‘ A Syrian Catholic archbishop has accused the United States of joining forces with al-Qaeda in an attempt to topple President Bashar Al-Assad. Archbishop Jacques Behnan Hindo of Hassaké-Nisibi said he believed that the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) was arming and training rebel groups in Syria which were al-Qaeda under “a different name”. He said it was misleading for Western politicians to speak of support for “moderate rebels” in Syria because such groups simply did not exist. He also said that Western military interference in his country was misguided because it could make Syria “like Libya”, a country where government and law and order have effectively collapsed amid fighting by rival groups after the US, Britain and France helped to bring down Muammar Gaddafi in 2011.’
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I have also said that there are no “moderate” rebels in Syria, and that it is foolish to believe that there are. Has kuriakose missed this?
But no–it was not the West that brought down Gaddafi, but his fellow Jihadists. That kuriakose apparently considers Jihad horrors like Lockerbie to be “law and order” is very grim.
Of course, there is almost nothing that Islam cannot make worse–and this is true in Libya, as well.
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Or ‘Syrian Orthodox Patriarch of Antioch and All the East, Mar Ignatius Ephrem II, arrives in Moscow thanks Russia for its support and calls on called on the “United States and other world powers to stop the flow of funds to terrorist organizations and extremist groups ”
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ISIS tried to assassinate the Patriarch in 2016. The US has now destroyed their territory in the region. One might suppose he would consider this a good thing.
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I think you seem have reading difficulties or suffer from the inabilty to make logical inferences. Where did the US defeat the terrorists?
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Well, apparently kuriakose *doesn’t* think that defeating the Islamic State was a good thing. The Yezidi and Christian sex slaves might disagree with him, though…
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All bullshit really, theterrorists (sic) are regrouping.
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It seems that kuriakose considers any action that doesn’t wipe out Jihad world wide to be a failure. In that case, everyone throughout history who has ever bravely fought against Jihad in history, no matter how successfully, has been a failure. Surrender, dhimmis!
No thanks. i actually consider the defeat of the Islamic State–and of the Somali pirates–to be a good thing. kuriakose may, of course, disagree.
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And in Afghanistan, why is the US still there? Has it won any war there?
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I have noted many times that we should not have remained in Afghanistan, because it is not possible to civilize a place that is almost 100% Muslim.
But, really, singling out our having driven out the Taliban is a very odd place for him to take a stand. Would he have preferred that the Taliban had been able to stone women to death over the intervening years. Unclear.
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You are just full of hate towards the Russians because they have done a better job in dealing with the terrorists than the phoney (sic) US war on terror.
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How is my not wanting Russians to suffer under Shari’ah law and Jihad terror attacks ‘hatred’? Really, this makes no sense. I don’t actually believe that this is what most Russians want.
And no–I *don’t* think that appeasing Muslims is particularly successful in dealing with terrorists–far from it. I don’t think this works in the West, and I don’t think it works in Russia or anywhere else.
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Syria: Christian city attacked by jihadist militia missiles killing 6 civilians, injuring 6 children
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Repulsive–the poor victims. No surprise, though.
Avenger says
I bet it was no surprise to our CIA who probably directed this hit.
gravenimage says
Another implication that it is actually the “filthy Infidels” who are waging violent Jihad. Nice try…
kuriakose says
GI: Your usual pathetic response, putting words in people’s mouth. The CIA involvement in aiding terrorists is well known, and has been documented by investigative journalists for a long time. Aiding terrorists is to achieve the greater aim for the CIA/US -the ends justifies the means, and no big deal for the CIA.
Get a proper education before you shoot off like the trained sheep in Animal Farm.
Eg : http://www.globalissues.org/article/258/anatomy-of-a-victory-cias-covert-afghan-war
https://www.greanvillepost.com/2019/04/21/how-cia-allies-helped-jihadists-in-syria/
I know you will resort to your usual obfuscations and half truths to justify this.
Your God seems to have changing morals like the god of islam.
gravenimage says
An “implication” is not “putting words in people’s mouths”. That would be a misquote, I have not, of course, misquoted anyone.
Then kuriakose has to go back to the early ’90s in his first link–referring to the 1980s. Very few people understood the rising Jihad threat at the time–whereas in the 1980s the Soviet Union was indeed still a threat.
Then he links to The Greanville Post–which preaches violent revolution against the free West. It lauds the horrors of Communist China.
There’s another call for the destruction of the West, in this case in an interview at the Greanville Post by The Saker–anther site christianblood constantly links to.
The Saker has an Imam–Sheikh Imran Nazar Hosein–who preaches Russian Orthodox allying with Muslims to destroy the West. (He says that Muslims *really* respect Orthodox Christians and promises not to hurt them).
I think this says a great deal about the site kuriakose chooses to link to.
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I know you will resort to your usual obfuscations and half truths to justify this.
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I have said many times that our thinking that there were “moderate” Muslims in the region has been foolish. How is this justifying foolishness? What rot.
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Your God seems to have changing morals like the god of islam.
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How is consistently opposing Jihad–and not wanting Jihadists to conquer the free West or any other part of the world–“changing morals”? My stance against Jihad and Shari’ah is actually very consistent–unlike kuriakose.
And no–standing against Jihad and Shari’ah is *not* something that “Allah” is assumed to do. Surely kuriakose knows this?