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When Worlds Collide: Exams During Ramadan

May 16, 2019 1:00 pm By Hugh Fitzgerald

Recently some Muslim students have complained about having to take final examinations during Ramadan, that this year begins on May 5 and ends on June 4. It’s a puzzlement: in most states the laws require schools and colleges to provide “reasonable accommodation” to the religious needs of its students. But what can be done when Ramadan and scheduled exams so completely coincide?

If Muslims claim that they are in a mentally weakened state during Ramadan because they can neither eat nor drink all day long, what kind of “reasonable accommodation” can be made? Some might think they should be allowed to take examinations once Ramadan is over. But if it is the same exam as the one that had already taken by their non-Muslim classmates, there is a danger that they will obtain some or all of the exam questions in advance. The solution might be to give them different examinations on the same material: Exam #1 for non-Muslims, Exam #2 for Muslims..

But if Muslims are to be provided with a different examination, this raises all sorts of other questions.

First, is Exam #2 easier, or harder than, or possibly of the same difficulty, as Exam #1? Who decides? The students? The professor? A faculty committee that includes Muslims?

Second, what if some Muslim students who took, post-Ramadan, Exam #2, claim they were graded unduly harshly, that they have discovered that the average grade for Muslim exam-takers was lower than that for the non-Muslims? What if they suggest that “islamophobia” was involved? Even if they do not put their names on the exam,, only an identifying number, the professor will have known that all the students taking Exam #2 are Muslims, so it could be claimed that if the grading results for Exam #2 are skewed to the left (with a lower grade average), as compared to the grades for Exam #1, that is prima facie evidence of “islamophobia.” Would any professor dare to suggest, in the current climate, that the grading was fair, that if the Muslim students, as a group, performed less well than non-Muslims, that only reflects such factors as:

1) poorer test-taking skills

2) less time dedicated to studying the course material

3) less time dedicated to exam preparation in particular

4) for some Muslims, a non-native command of English

5) the deleterious effects, physical and mental, of “cousin marriage” which is favored in many Muslim societies and has led –in Great Britain for example — to high levels of congenital illnesses.

6) the effect of Islam itself on mental development, because the faith favors rote memorization (above all of the Qur’an)

7) Islam discourages free and skeptical inquiry, which might lead some to call the faith itself, or aspects of it, into question, and therefore is to be avoided,

Another possible complaint by Muslim male students: what if the exam-room monitors are non-hijabbed non-Muslim women, in Western and therefore provocative dress, the sight of whom, they claim, interfered with their concentration?

Muslim female students might claim that exam monitors who are males, and circulate among the female exam-takers, watching carefully to ensure that no cheating is going on, such as concealing notes under a niqab (that can be slipped out to be furtively read). would be similarly distracting.

What about the need claimed by some Muslim students to leave the exam room in order to say one of the daily prayers that occur between sunrise and sunset, should that prayer time coincide with the time the exam is being administered? Can they be denied that right — if indeed it is a right? What about the likelihood of a surreptitious sharing of information about questions and answers, among the group of students going to and from the prayer hall?

All kinds of problems arise when Ramadan overlaps so completely, as it does this year, the month of scheduled exams.

There is no easy solution to this problem. Is there a hard one?

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  1. ntesdorf says

    May 16, 2019 at 1:14 pm

    Muslims know that Mohammed said the the only knowledge worth having is religious knowledge.

    • Terry Gain says

      May 16, 2019 at 2:02 pm

      Yes. Why are Muslims required to read anything but the Koran when we know that all knowledge is contained in the Koran. This is an outrage.

      • FYI says

        May 16, 2019 at 2:44 pm

        It is a shame muslims don’t actually study Al Lah’s “perfect” book with a critical eye.

        Al Lah knows everything ,as long as you don’t ask him..and no one is allowed to ask him.
        {K5:101-102}

        In k4:82 Al Lah says that if contradictions are found in the koran,it cannot be from the real God.

        Well here is one contradiction..

        In k4:85 Al lah PERMITS Intercession
        In k74:48 muhammed PROHIBITS Intercession

        So which is it?
        who is to be believed Al lah or muhammed{APOh,allah prays on him}?
        It is a total contradiction.One part of the koran cancels out the other.

        With further study they might discover that Al Lah has only one leg{k68:42}…or this mysterious statement..

        “Above it our nineteen”k74:30

        Nineteen WHAT?Nobody knows,no islamic scholar..probably not even Al Lah/mo himself.
        There is also this Arabic nonsense:”What!A FOREIGN TONGUE and an Arab??k 41:44

        It seems the author of the koran could not accept the possibility that an Arab would know{or want to know}another tongue:thus we see the koran is for the Arabs as Al lah is the god of the Arabs.

        • mortimer says

          May 16, 2019 at 3:02 pm

          Yes, FYI. Too true. Islam is SELF-REFERENTIALLY INCOHERENT … and thus, Islam is false.

          Half of Islamic teachings contradict the other half, and so, Muslims suspend their disbelief and avoid questioning the flagrant errors in logic. Clearly, two contradictions cannot be true at the same time and in the same way. Allah is ALL OVER THE MAP. Allah was clearly off his meds some of those days.

        • Lilith Wept says

          May 16, 2019 at 6:33 pm

          FYI,
          Go to http://www.theprophetofdoom.org and Craig Winn does a good job of tearing apart the Koran ( using the Sira and Hadith ) chapter by chapter.
          He also tears apart Allah and Muhammed.

          Lots of excellent info there. It’s dense as there is a lot of information packed into the book, but well worth reading. And it does have a Christian perspective.

          Prophet of Doom is also a book, but it’s out of print and expensive if you can find it. But the entire text of the book is on the website.

          I managed to locate a cheap copy of the book to add to my growing library and I prize it! I enjoy reading different authors take on “Islam is false “ and the ways they approach proving it.

    • CRUSADER says

      May 16, 2019 at 3:31 pm

      Muslims don’t understand that religious knowledge can reveal science and other discoveries.

      Better for the world if Muslims ONLY study the Koran,
      because after a generation of that,
      Muslims will want to jump ship from failures stemming from it;
      they will be departing from Islam by their own free will —
      they will be converting in droves to what really works!

      • Lilith Wept says

        May 16, 2019 at 6:44 pm

        Crusader,
        Didn’t moslems do just that, , read and study only the Koran ( and of course the Hadith and Sira) for years? Instead of abandoning it as false when they were exposed to other schools of thought, other books ( including the Bible ) instead their scholars wrote convoluted commentaries on those ridiculous aspects of the Koran trying to show that it actually made sense?

        The more the Koran is criticized , or parts of it proved false, the more Moslems mentally twist themselves into knots to prove the Koran “unchanging, prophetic, the word of Allah, and poetic and beautiful beyond the duplicating”
        My problem with Moslem studying in Western schools, particularly law schools, is those Moslem then use their knowledge of our laws and political system against us, to further the spread of Islam.

        • CRUSADER says

          May 17, 2019 at 1:56 am

          Muslim minds and emotions will reach a point of “cognitive dissonance”

          It seems there are so much more options particularly with
          electronic media and mobility for Muslims to explore alternate possibilities.

          Once they see the opportunity gap widen, they could see their apostate
          ex-brethren doing better than they…. and see that the Muslim Brotherhood
          doesn’t offer them the future path their grandparents were told about….

          The high fashion of hijabs are also an indicator of the false track offered
          by Islamic tradition. It mainly points to apostasy. Apostasy (in this case)
          can be more fun than the alternative. Conversion can also be beneficial!
          Love / Success / Grace — in this life; Salvation for Eternity with Christ,
          for instance…

          What’s not to love about the alternatives to Islam….?

          It’s a longer game view… And a more hopeful one.

          We may have to go through a bit of hellishness first.

        • mortimer says

          May 17, 2019 at 8:50 am

          Response to Lilith: re ‘Twist themselves in knots’. Agree. The Islamic texts were written to be taken literally, but modern mullahs ‘reinterpret’ what Allah and Mohammed said for the 21st century, because they both said many things that are politically incorrect today. I believe the mullahs all know that the Koran and hadiths are bunk. They read and study these books for decades. After 15 wasted years of study them, the mullahs start to realize all the contradictions and errors in their texts. They cannot turn back at this point. They need the job and so continue to peddle falsehood.

    • abad says

      May 16, 2019 at 10:01 pm

      Quite honestly I do not think Moslems born in this country should be attending universities as the Quran prohibits it. And – Moslems from other countries should not be coming here to attend our universities, either.

      • LadyTess says

        May 17, 2019 at 7:59 am

        Or be sworn in to our government

    • DiploNerd says

      May 17, 2019 at 3:52 am

      In Egypt, exams are during Ramadan. Egypt’s official House of Fatwas (dar al-ifta) published an edict saying that Muslim students didn’t have to fast if it interfered with exam performance. Here’s the link:

      http://eng.dar-alifta.org/foreign/ViewArticle.aspx?ID=1878&CategoryID=1

      • gravenimage says

        May 19, 2019 at 11:04 pm

        Thanks for that link. Interesting.

  2. Beverly says

    May 16, 2019 at 1:17 pm

    Schedule exams for the evenings. For everybody. Problem solved. You may have to pay your profs a bit
    more. But it will be worth it.

    • jarmanray says

      May 16, 2019 at 1:52 pm

      Absolutely NO. Why should any teacher or professor, much less the other students, have to change their schedules to accommodate a bunch of cry babies?

    • Terry Gain says

      May 16, 2019 at 2:04 pm

      Beverley, you get today’s award for Excellence In Submission.

      • CRUSADER says

        May 16, 2019 at 5:08 pm

        Jihad Watch should bestow those EIS awards, officially…..

    • owensgate says

      May 16, 2019 at 2:44 pm

      It is not necessary to “accommodate” them in any way. They KNEW “Final Exams” were a course requirement before they enrolled, and they KNEW the month of the current school year that was to be “Ramadamn” (sic), and they enrolled anyway. If “allah” cannot grant them an exception, tough beans.

      • mortimer says

        May 16, 2019 at 4:21 pm

        No accommodation can be made in the matter of exam scheduling due to the principles of FAIRNESS and EQUALITY OF STANDARDS.

        Muslims who cannot apply their own standards of MURUNA and TAYSIR should pack their bags and go to an ISLAMIC UNIVERSITY where they can have SHARIA LAW 24/7 coming out the yingyang.

  3. No Muzzies Here says

    May 16, 2019 at 1:18 pm

    They obviously cannot function in the present school system. One of the two must change, either the system, or the unhappy test takers.

    No use going any further. I already know the answer. The current system is the one that’s going to change. School administrators will rush to accommodate the unhappy test takers while denying the rights of the people who have always accommodated themselves to the system without demanding the system accommodate them.

    Administrators will willingly bend the rules so the newcomers will not have to change their habits. The new arrivals will be allowed to wait until the end of their special month, and will be allowed to exit the exam room for prayers.

    The thought that one rule applies to all and must be applied fairly no longer exists in the United States of today.

    • CRUSADER says

      May 16, 2019 at 3:35 pm

      Systems need to be in place to continue to frustrate the HELL out of Muslims
      in the West so that they divulge themselves to us more forthrightly, so we may
      see what they really are like, and so that they may want to jump from Islam’s
      sinking ship….

  4. rubiconcrest says

    May 16, 2019 at 1:19 pm

    The easy ‘solution’ would be to test in the morning. Since Muslims eat breakfast taking a test before noon would not adversely affect them. Ultimately, don’t forget that consuming the same number of calories and drinking all night is no great hardship. We are fools to fall into believing that Muslims are making any great sacrifice. They are not.

    • Keys says

      May 16, 2019 at 4:09 pm

      Agree. The non-muslims do not eat before noon either.

      They will still have an excuse, but too bad.

  5. Jaladhi says

    May 16, 2019 at 1:26 pm

    Muslims create problems where ever they live! The best thing for them is to live in their own Islamic countries and forget about coming to non-Muslim countries. I bet they won’t create any problems. I wonder if exams are postponed in Muslim countries if Ramadan happens to coincide with exam schedules. Since Ramadan keeps moving throughout the year(thanks to the moon calendar) it will always give excuse to Muslims to interfere with normal schedules of non-Muslims! Best for everybody if they live in their own countries!!

    • Lilith Wept says

      May 16, 2019 at 7:42 pm

      “ Moslems create problems where ever they live!” And the reason is that Islam is not compatible with the West .
      Islam’s main purpose is to keep its followers under control, and to spread the ideology of Islam.
      The Koran says that Mohammed was commanded to fight against all non moslems until Islam is the only religion in the world. And named Islam as Dar al Islam , and everyone else as Dar al Harb ( the house of war) essentially declaring war on all non moslems until the end of time.
      For us this means that Moslems will not stop trying to take over our countries….they will keep trying until,they succeed or the end of time happens….
      Moslems won’t stop their fight against us non moslems so we must stop them. It’s just that simple. And in the West, America in particular, Islam is using our laws and the freedom of religion, against us , and to further the spread of Islam.
      We need to wake up and acknowledge that Islam is not like all the other religions in America. Islam is a political,ideology and it’s goal is first Islamic dominance, then Islamic supremacy.
      Omar Ahmad, the founder of CAIR said “ Islam is not in America to be equal to any other other faith, but to become dominate. The Koran shoul ,be the highest authority in America and Islam the o ly accepted religion on Earth”…..
      Those are chilling words. And he is telling us exactly what Islam will do.
      Islam won’t be content with being dominate, Islam wants to become the “ only accepted religion on Earth”.
      All the giving in to whatever moslems demand, building mega mosques, demanding prayer rooms in public spaces and special washing facilities in public bathrooms, bending over backwards to ensure that moslems religious feelings are hurt, …all this pandering to moslems that we are doing doesn’t satisfy moslems. If you notice that no matter how accomidaging we are , they always manage to find a reason to be offended, have their religious feelings hurt, and demand more and more and 9re….until,they have it all, the whole darn country! All this giving in to every Moslem demand makes us look weak.
      And yet we keep giving in….We keep insisting that somehow, Islam is the religion of peace, and all this violence and killing, the persecution and killing of Christians, that can’t have anything to do with Islam!
      It’s like the story of the Emperors clothes…..except we have hundreds of people, ex moslems, Experts on the Koran and Islam, and even moslems themselves, like Omar Ahmad, telling us…it has everything to do with Islam, it’s the main part of Islam, and a huge proportion of the Koran is all about hatred, terror, violence and killing of non moslems!
      We are told the Emperor has no clothes…..but we keep insisting he does…..we can see them!
      We must acknowledge that Islam is NOT like all the other religions in America. And that it’s the core, mainstream stream Islamic doctrine that’s the problem , that Islamic doctrine and , law are incompatible with American law. And Islam’s goal of spreading Islam and making every non Moslem country try in the world an Islamic country is not compatible with American culture and law and must be stopped. Until we do, Islam will just keep spreading…..and spreading, and we will keep go i g in, and maki g more and more “accomidations “ until there is nothing left Islam is the only thing left . And we have become an Islamic country…..

      Islam is all about using terror , violence and killing to subjugate non moslems and force them into becoming moslems ( or Dhimmi).

      Islam came to exist in a tribal culture and it has remained tribal. It is trapped in the time it was created. It’s laws, punishments, child marriage, treatment of women as less than fully human, discrimination, slavery all of it were common in the 1600s.
      The Western world has moved on, has reformed and no long believe in or do those kinds of things.

      But because Islam is based on the Koran, which is supposed to be the literal, exact word of a deity, it is unchanging , eternal, has existed ( in Paradise where the deity lives) since the beginning of time, Islam can not be reformed or changed. Even questioning it is discouraged ( or forbidden depending on the time and leadership) . Islam fears rational thought and critical examination. Moslem scholars twist themselves into knots trying to write explanations of the more absurd parts of the Koran trying to show that it makes sense.

      And Islam punished those leaving Islam by death. Because Islam fears that if this punishment didn’t exist, people would leave Islam in large numbers and Islam would lose one of its greatest assets, its people.

      Where ever Moslems go they bring their outdated, tribal totalitarian theocracy, and it’s barbaric 1600 legal system with them.
      And if that’s not bad enough, they also bring the terror, violence and killing that is part of Islam’s basic doctrine with them.
      And where ever moslems go they force their ideology on others.
      Dr. Bill Warner said that when moslems enter a country, given enough time, that country becomes an Islamic country…..stop and think about that.
      Islam is like a cancer…just a few cells is all it takes and those cells grow , spreading through out the host , creating problems all out of proportion to their number. These cells cause the host to become sicker and sicker until til one day there isn’t anything left of the host and it dies….leaving only the cancer of Islam.

      • Savvy Kafir says

        May 16, 2019 at 8:15 pm

        I agree. Therefore, Islam must be expelled from the West — every last Muslim, at gunpoint if necessary. Whatever it takes. No matter how much money or manpower or bloodshed is required.

        • abad says

          May 16, 2019 at 10:06 pm

          +1

          Agreed, if Moslems hate the USA so much then they all need to make a concerted effort to stop coming here. Purge the nation of its present Moslems, ship them off to Syria and Somalia.

      • CRUSADER says

        May 17, 2019 at 2:00 am

        Lilith, that’s worth a lengthy discussion.
        Good points you’ve listed.

  6. jarmanray says

    May 16, 2019 at 1:31 pm

    The easy answer to this made up problem would be for their parents to return to what ever fun loving Islamic nation they fled. I am sick and tired of people coming to America and attempting to force us to accommodate their un-American attitudes. Tests have been administered at this time of the school year for a couple hundred years and they chose to be here, so it is they who need to adapt. Their complaints regarding the testing resembles many European cities which have no-go zones where they can have schools within schools. I am surprised that CAIR has not attempted to have a weekend consisting of Friday and Saturday rather than Saturday and Sunday. The bottom line is this is America, adapt or leave.

    • CRUSADER says

      May 16, 2019 at 3:38 pm

      Muslims need to understand what Free Will is all about.

      • abad says

        May 16, 2019 at 10:08 pm

        That will not happen, free will does not exist in Islam.

        In fact, dare I say, free will is diametrically opposed to “submission to Allah”.

        Moslems do not belong in the United States of America.

        • CRUSADER says

          May 17, 2019 at 2:03 am

          Then, that’s the threshold which should bar them from the West.

          The West is about recognizing Free Will as a reality!

          We need our Thermopylae moment in the West:

  7. Ellen says

    May 16, 2019 at 1:31 pm

    Administer the exams on one of the days BEFORE Ramadan. That is what’s often done with religiously observant Jewish students, when exams are scheduled on days on which they cannot attend class. It is highly doubtful that the Muslim students will share the questions with the non-Muslim students and risk the non-Muslim students doing better than they on the exam.

    • mortimer says

      May 16, 2019 at 4:25 pm

      What if … a Muslim student takes the first exam and is PAID to give the information to his ‘clients’ who take the SECOND exam? That would really trick the dirty kafirs, wouldn’t it?

      Taqiyya is the AUTHENTIC ISLAMIC TEACHING of deceiving the kafirs for the BENEFIT of Islam. They wouldn’t trick the dirty kufaar … or would they?

  8. Flavius Claudius Iulianus says

    May 16, 2019 at 1:39 pm

    “Trump: ‘Twin Brother’ Orban Has ‘Done the Right Thing on Immigration’, Kept Hungary Safe”

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/05/16/trump-twin-brother-orban-done-right-thing-immigration-kept-hungary-safe/

  9. Flavius Claudius Iulianus says

    May 16, 2019 at 1:39 pm

    “US military complex is a ‘malignant virus’ that’s evolved to defend itself – Andrew Cockburn”

    https://www.rt.com/usa/459505-us-military-industrial-virus/

  10. CRUSADER says

    May 16, 2019 at 1:45 pm

    America’s major principals and values, which formed foundation of the nation
    up to recently, have been based on Christianity….
    this basis is now being dismantled….

    Only one thing to do: ENGAGE in the GOOD FIGHT !!!

    Freedom Center founder exposes progressives’ war to destroy Christian America.

    David Horowitiz discusses, “Dark Agenda:
    The War to Destroy Christian America”, on RealLife on CTVN.org. (video)

    • CRUSADER says

      May 16, 2019 at 2:46 pm

      Each of us faces our Creator one on one, “priesthood of all believers”.
      Inalienable Rights if given by government, then they can be taken away.
      Respect, rather than contempt, for those of Faith is what built this nation.

      Leftists have plotted to take down and destroy the foundational bricks one by one.
      (“Religion must die in order for mankind to live”: atheists Bill Maher / Richard Dawkins)
      Every major scientific discover during the Scientific Revolution were believers.
      We now are in a Spiritual Battle for this country. Gratitude to the Evangelicals.
      Religious liberty is the First Amendment, and it is under assault in the U.S.A.

      Christ: “I bring not peace but a sword” (for this Spiritual Battle) !!!

      How inhuman the Marxist Leftist agenda really is. Capacity is for immorality.
      We are created with Free Will, which is why we are dangerous.
      Religion is necessary to teach morality for controlling people’s impulse to do bad.

      Cringe when Islam is mentioned in the same breath with Christianity and Judaism.
      Christians worship Christ who would not hurt but who brought a kind message.
      Mohammed was a blood-thirsty pedophile warlord bigot — who struck at infidels.
      Communist Parties were frontier guards fro Stalinism.
      U.S. Democratic Party is a frontier guard for Islamism.
      Muslims support Holy War against infidels and apostates.

      USA was fundamentally created by people fighting blasphemy laws.
      Freedom of Conscious and Religious Liberty are fundamental to America.

      Leftists are vindictive bigots; many became followers of Pelagius heresy.
      (Pelagius was a theologian who advocated free will and asceticism.
      He was accused by St. Augustine of Hippo of denying the need for Divine Aid.)
      Pelagius: “If people keep to their human nature, we would not be sinful.”

      However, to eat of the Tree was to commit evil and this was the corruption of us.
      Humans are too corrupt to deserve to be in Heaven, so we need forgiveness.
      Our tendencies for damage, corruption, destruction requires a guidance over us.
      That guidance comes in the form of Grace.

      G.K. Chesterton: “We are the problem in the world; our own sinful nature.”

      V.P. Mike Pence: “Loudest voices for tolerance have shown zero-tolerance.”

      Horowitz: “As a former radical, I live to teach Conservatives to gutter-fight!”
      The Left’s identity politics is racist policy. We need to put a mirror up to them!
      Character assassination is the Left’s chief weapon used by “progressives”.
      Democratic Party is a seditious party. Civil warfare now is a political war.
      The Left is attempting to cheat their way to aggrandizing power for themselves.
      The American way of governing is to be suspicious of the powerful.
      Protecting the minorities against the tyranny of majority, by checks/balances.

      “DARK AGENDA” exposed by David Horowitz —-

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

      • CRUSADER says

        May 16, 2019 at 2:52 pm

        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

        Much of our modern difficulty, in religion and
        other things, arises merely from this, that we
        confuse the word ” indefinable ” with the word
        ” vague.”

        If some one speaks of a spiritual fact as ” indefinable ”
        we promptly picture something misty, a cloud with
        indeterminate edges. But this is an error even
        in common-place logic.

        The thing that cannot be defined is the first thing;
        the primary fact. It Is our arms and legs, our pots
        and pans, that are indefinable. The indefinable
        is the indisputable.

        The man next door Is indefinable, because he is
        too actual to be defined.

        And there are some to whom spiritual things have
        the same fierce and practical proximity; some to
        whom God Is too actual to be defined.

        ~ G. K. Chesterton
        author of “Charles Dickens — a Critical Study”

        https://archive.org/stream/charlesdickenscr01ches/charlesdickenscr01ches_djvu.txt

  11. Bill says

    May 16, 2019 at 1:45 pm

    We still bend the rules for these people. What are the Americans afraid of not enforcing the given standards ??? send them back to their country…

  12. James says

    May 16, 2019 at 1:53 pm

    It is interesting that the Muslim women in Congress think that Israel ought to be turned into a secular state where everyone can have their own religion and live in cultural harmony with the other religion. But this example shows that this is not even working in America or Europe. My solution is adapt your religion to the practices of t he country you want to live in. If it is not satisfactory, go to private schools or go to a Muslim country to live in. And private schools should be monitored to suppress jihadi education

    • CRUSADER says

      May 16, 2019 at 3:41 pm

      Israel is booming. Success there breeds contempt from elsewhere.

      Israel already does allow for cultural harmonies
      and religious faiths to be practiced side by side.

      Visit Israel and witness for yourselves!!

    • gravenimage says

      May 20, 2019 at 12:26 am

      The Muslimahs in Congress want Israel destroyed.

  13. Anjuli Pandavar says

    May 16, 2019 at 1:55 pm

    Remind me how all of this began…?

    • CRUSADER says

      May 16, 2019 at 6:16 pm

      Worlds collided.

      Sam Huntington, really….

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clash_of_Civilizations

      • Anjuli Pandavar says

        May 17, 2019 at 3:36 am

        Hmm. I think more like hearts bled.

  14. Terry Gain says

    May 16, 2019 at 1:58 pm

    I fail to understand why “the best of people” are even required to write exams. Surely, this is palpable discrimination. And racism.

    • mortimer says

      May 16, 2019 at 4:28 pm

      “All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.” – Animal Farm

    • CRUSADER says

      May 16, 2019 at 6:00 pm

      Is Orwell’s “Animal Farm” anymore taught as something for young age groups to read?

      I read it at age nine (just 8 years ago ;-)) and it set me on my path of noting
      how important it is to remain a skeptic throughout life, while sticking to one’s guns
      when values are eroded.

      I miss that old proletariat horse, Boxer…..

      (… after Snowball is sent into exile, Boxer tries to think things over for himself, but all he can come up with is, “If Comrade Napoleon says it, it must be right,” and he takes up a new personal motto: “Napoleon is always right” (5.22). Because the other animals admire Boxer’s work ethic, they follow his lead.)

      Someone should come up with an Islamist-version of “Animal Farm” !!!

    • Anjuli Pandavar says

      May 16, 2019 at 6:37 pm

      You are closer to the truth than you may realise. I once taught in an Arab country. My job was to pass the students. Everybody understood it that way (except me; I didn’t last very long).

  15. Eric Jones says

    May 16, 2019 at 2:06 pm

    No accommodation should be made to Muslim students taking test during Ramadan. This is stealth Jihad. I and many others have taken long test in college and in professional licenses. I had a bottle of water and cough drops. Others around me had small snacks. We did not need anything else. We were allowed bathroom breaks. The Muslims can make it the same way we did.

    Eric

    • CRUSADER says

      May 16, 2019 at 3:43 pm

      Muslims are weak.

      This is why they cannot strive as individuals, as Islam-followers.
      They must behave like bees in hives, so that the group can take action.

  16. A_M_Swallow says

    May 16, 2019 at 2:22 pm

    Special privileges have to be paid for. During the day lock the Muslims in rooms with blankets on the floor so they can sleep. Confiscate their mobile phones and computers.so they cannot find out the questions. Charge for these rooms. Hold the exams at night. The people guarding the exam room do not need to be academics.

    I attended college with Muslims from Iran. They came to lectures on Fridays and did not ask for special considerations. At lunch time they ate in the refectory rather than the pub.

  17. Cathryn Paradise says

    May 16, 2019 at 2:26 pm

    There are two easy solutions to this problem. 1 Move to a school in a moslem country where Ramadan restrictions are OK. 2 Start moslem only schools where Ramadan is observed. They already create their own ghettos where non-moslems can’t go so starting a moslems only school should not be a problem..

    • CRUSADER says

      May 16, 2019 at 3:46 pm

      It’s not that Kafirs CANNOT go to “no go zones” of Muslim ghettos
      ….that’s lawfully prejudicial, discriminatory against non-Muslims….
      It’s just that Muslims make it unpalatable and dangerous for Kafirs.

  18. Paul says

    May 16, 2019 at 2:36 pm

    I worked my way through college doing the night shift in a cannery, 7 days a week mid-June until mid-October. I was in a sleep deprived state but still managed to pay attention and get good grades. Screw these cry babies.

    • Lydia Church says

      May 16, 2019 at 6:35 pm

      And do all women get to reschedule when they have their periods???
      Some of us have more agony with that than others and a period pill is not a cure all either.

      They are just looking for more accommodations.
      Will everyone else get one too?!

    • gravenimage says

      May 20, 2019 at 12:28 am

      Spot on, Paul–same with me. I worked nights and weekends all through university.

  19. mortimer says

    May 16, 2019 at 2:55 pm

    ATTENTION, COLLEGE TEACHERS and ADMINISTRATORS : TAQIYYA ALERT !!!

    TAQIYYA ARTISTS INSIDE THE GATES !!!

    COLLEGE ADMINISTRATORS SHOULD IMMEDIATELY LOOK UP: *MURUNA* and *TAYSIR*

    Yes, these student APOLOGISTS for SHARIA are LYING about Islamic doctrines of NECESSITY versus the FACILITATION or EASING of Sharia law when it is GOOD FOR ISLAM.

    MUSLIMS HAVE A RIGHT TO “RELAX” the rules if beneficial.

    *MURUNA* : ‘flexibility’ or temporary suspension of Sharia to make Muslim migrants appear ‘moderate’ and blend in until Muslims are numerically strong enough to enforce Sharia.

    *TAYSIR* : easing or facilitation (not observing all the tenets of Sharia by making things easier when Muslims want something). Taysir means “ease” or “facilitation”.

    Muslims must imitate Allah ‘THE BEST OF DECEIVERS’.

    Allahu khayru l-makireena – Koran. 3:54; cf. 8:30

  20. mortimer says

    May 16, 2019 at 3:06 pm

    The answer for them is to go to a MUSLIM SCHOOL like Al Azhar University and have SHARIA LAW COMING OUT THEIR EARS!

    Don’t go to a SECULAR WESTERN UNIVERSITY.

    • Savvy Kafir says

      May 16, 2019 at 4:50 pm

      Exactly!

  21. Dawne says

    May 16, 2019 at 3:17 pm

    Slight aside – cousin marriage should be BANNED in the UK. Very rare until our waves of Muslim immigrants, it’s genetic defect effects put too heavy a burden on our NHS.

    • CRUSADER says

      May 16, 2019 at 3:47 pm

      West Virginia might agree with you.

  22. Niemoller says

    May 16, 2019 at 4:09 pm

    So Muslims admit that for a full 12th of the year they are mentally and physically weakened compared to non-muslims. They are also hobbled five times a day for programmed prayer and they hobble half their population, women, under cumbersome archaic clothing. This is why they must free load and economically and slave, as well as physically and slave, non-muslims in order to get material wealth.

    • mortimer says

      May 17, 2019 at 8:43 am

      ‘Islam’ is a euphemism for ‘slavery’.

  23. Savvy Kafir says

    May 16, 2019 at 4:49 pm

    This is just one more reason why Muslims do not belong in the West. They are simply incompatible with our societies.

    Every time they make some new demand for special treatment due to their religion, our political leaders should point out that their demand is further proof they do not belong here — and politely suggest that they all f**k off and return to the desert.

    • CRUSADER says

      May 16, 2019 at 6:01 pm

      Conversely, Savvy Kafir, Muslims believe that Kafirs do not belong ANYWHERE !

  24. CRUSADER says

    May 16, 2019 at 5:04 pm

    Antifa / Leftists SOLIDARITY in arms…. and in intellectual weakness….

    The Coalition to Defend Affirmative Action, Integration & Immigrant Rights,
    and Fight for Equality By Any Means Necessary, commonly shortened to
    By Any Means Necessary (BAMN), is a militant American far-left group
    that participates in protests and litigation to achieve its aims.

  25. WPM says

    May 16, 2019 at 5:27 pm

    That have to skip lunch ,so what ,I worked went to college at the same time and had to travel 2 hours each way to commute .Later in life I became a first responder in a major city had to work many times during Christmas and Easter because that was part of the job. Maybe part of college and work in the outside world is you do not always get to do everything at only your own convenience .If they cannot get thru an college exam(not back braking labor in the sun) without food or water after a predawn feast what employment are you fit for?

    • CRUSADER says

      May 16, 2019 at 6:04 pm

      Thank you for your service, WPM.

      Yes, such paltry folk as you mentioned aren’t good for much else but fodder.
      That may be what Mohamhead had in mind… Hitler certainly did!
      Use others to further the Big Agenda, no matter what.
      “By Any Means Necessary!”

      • gravenimage says

        May 20, 2019 at 12:29 am

        +1

    • abad says

      May 16, 2019 at 10:16 pm

      “f they cannot get thru an college exam(not back braking labor in the sun) without food or water after a predawn feast what employment are you fit for?”

      In the case of Moslems, none, except suicide bombing.

      As a Satanic cult (and yes Moslems worship Satan, the Father of the Lie, the Deceiver), its followers operate on ultra-strict thought control on the collective level (once again, there is no concept of the individual in Islam) which does not belong in western society.

      They should all be deported back to the Middle East where they can Ishnaq in unison.

      • CRUSADER says

        May 17, 2019 at 2:10 am

        Kick the beehives out, one by one.

  26. Rarely says

    May 16, 2019 at 5:46 pm

    There is no reason I can think of not to try to make “reasonable” accommodation. In the future it may be possible to schedule exams so as not to conflict with ramadan — sometimes. But it lasts a month and we can’t redesign our education system to make “reasonable” accommodation.

    If, as is argued, muslims are “weakened” during Ramadan what do muslim firefighters do? What about muslim bus drivers? Surgeons? Teachers? etc. etc. etc. What do other working muslims do? Perhaps employers would be justified to reduce wages paid to muslims for work during Ramadan because of their reduced mental capacities?
    Their argument looks pretty ridiculous when taken full circle.

    I would, however, schedule exams in the A.M. when stomachs are full. If they have trouble studying in the afternoon — too bad. A person can’t expect to compete successfully when he/she is only working/studying 11/12ths of the year. Of course taking numerous prayer breaks during the 11/12ths also cuts into the time that others are working/studying. Consequently, even with the same intellectual abilities there will be self-imposed handicaps.

    All too often we see the education system catering to the lowest common denominator and that hurts the overall, obviously.

    • CRUSADER says

      May 16, 2019 at 6:05 pm

      Muslims aren’t much use, individually. Only as a group.

  27. James Lincoln says

    May 16, 2019 at 6:37 pm

    According to timeanddate.com, the city in the United States that currently has the earliest sunrise is Fairbanks, Alaska at 4:24 AM – as of 16 May 2019.

    A Muslim student observing Ramadan could set his/her alarm for 4 AM and have a full breakfast before 4:24 AM.

    If all exams started at 8 AM sharp and concluded by 10 AM sharp, the Muslim student would have fasted for less than six hours. For a non-diabetic, there should be no untoward effects, decrease in mentation, etc.

    So…the school could, if it did NOT disrupt their schedules, have early-morning exams, the Muslim students could set their alarm clocks early to be able to finish their breakfast before sunrise.

    Is this too logical to happen?

    • Battle says

      May 16, 2019 at 10:04 pm

      Previous commemtators have said in case of illness or other the Moslem is allowed to make up the missed Ramadan day later. School administrators should tell the Moslems to “See your advisor.” Rather than suffer any inconvience to do make-up days later, the narcissist Moslems would rather hate, inconvenience and control the inferior “unbelievers.” The Moslems are full of bull you know what.

  28. SemiDave says

    May 16, 2019 at 8:53 pm

    One of THE best sets of comments that I’ve ever read on JW!

    There are more thought provoking comments and thought clarifying comments than one can hope for in one place at one time.

    My respects to all!

    • CRUSADER says

      May 17, 2019 at 2:14 am

      As-salāmu ʿalaykum !!!

  29. na says

    May 16, 2019 at 10:40 pm

    A Saudi man was arrested by Sharia Police during holy month of Ramadan prayer in Mosque. The reason was during prayer his fart cursed entire mosque. An old man praying back side of him noticed ‘fart man’ and reported authority.So Muslims fear Allas punishment , may be a car/cooking gas leak. Fart is against Allah. Sharia Court punished him stoning to death.

  30. na says

    May 16, 2019 at 10:44 pm

    PAKISTAN: MAN SENTENCED TO DEATH FOR FARTING IN MOSQUE DURING RAMADAN

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    A Pakistani judge has sentenced a man to be executed after he was expelled 17 times from 6 different mosques for excessive farting during the period of the Ramadan reports the Islamabad Herald this week.
    The Ramadan is the most important religious festival for Muslims and the judge declared that he had indisposed people of the faith and even caused 53 people at one time to leave the mosque during a prayer, a “blasphemous act” which should be punished “according to Allah’s will.”

    The judge was lenient, have admitted many experts in the region, as he gave the convicted man the choice of being beheaded or stoned to death.

    “The law is clear, he should be stoned to death, beheading is a very light sentence and saves him from any suffering,” protested the government prosecutor.
    Deputy District Public Prosecutor (DDPP) Syed Anees Shah told reporters the accused got a “very light sentence” for the crime of blasphemy.
    Deputy District Public Prosecutor (DDPP) Syed Anees Shah told reporters the accused got a “very light sentence” for the crime of blasphemy.

    A rare medical condition
    Muhammad Al-Wahabi, 33, suffers from chronic flatulence, “a rare medical condition” he argued in his self-defense, as no lawyer would take his case.

    “No lawyer is crazy enough to bet his career on this issue. If his client his condemned, as in this case, the lawyer would face prosecution and possibly the same faith as his client” admits legal expert Andrew Jones, a Middle Eastern law expert.

    Al-Wahabi did not contest the judgment and even said the judgment was fair and that he hoped Allah would be gracious enough to pardon his blasphemous actions.

    Al-Wahabi also admitted that he put a tampon in his rectum several times in a desperate attempt to mask the noise and odor.

    “A disgraceful and insidious act” the judge declared, visibly disgusted.

    “Muslims are not allowed to insert any objects inside their anus, not even a finger, it is forbidden by the Koran,” said the judge.
    “As a judge, I must set an example for other Muslims. This is clearly unacceptable under Shariah law,” he concluded.

    Al-Wahabi admitted to the judge he had failed his God, his religion, and his people and was terribly sorry for what he had done, and asked for his two wives and seven children’s mercy in court and thanked the judge for his verdict.

    • na says

      May 16, 2019 at 11:27 pm

      I hope many Muslim women are confessing when they heard ““Muslims are not allowed to insert any objects inside their anus, not even a finger, it is forbidden by the Koran,” said the judge.

  31. na says

    May 16, 2019 at 11:46 pm

    I think worldnewsdailyreport.com is not a real news for news reference it is an entertainment site

  32. CRUSADER says

    May 17, 2019 at 2:14 am

    huh?

  33. DiploNerd says

    May 17, 2019 at 3:33 am

    This happens in the Middle East, too. Egypt’s official House of Fatwas (Dar al-Ifta) has ruled that students are exempt from fasting if it interferes with exams:

    http://eng.dar-alifta.org/foreign/ViewArticle.aspx?ID=1878&CategoryID=1

    • CRUSADER says

      May 17, 2019 at 5:12 am

      Good reason that Mark Gabriel left Egypt!

      He had been trained to become an imam.
      As an ex-Muslim, he was hunted for being an apostate.
      He converted to Christianity. This action saved him.

      + + +

  34. Lenore Cooper says

    May 17, 2019 at 10:02 am

    what ever happened to separating religion and education?

  35. Mike says

    May 17, 2019 at 10:20 am

    so now let’s say they attend a medical school for what brain or Nero surgeon so for 30 days there brains are impaired. one operating a reactor will be impaired. Thus it looks like any sensitive jobs being preformed by and Mus1im is taboo or a world threat

  36. David M says

    May 18, 2019 at 4:50 am

    In the public service is Australia there was an e-mail issued to all employees in a department about being careful of Ramadan, & to try not to have morning teas is front on Muslims. What a disgrace, I say eat & drink in front of them purposefully. No capitulation to the invaders..

  37. LEGAL IMMIGRANT says

    May 19, 2019 at 10:05 am

    I lived most of my life in a Muslim country. For many years, Ramadan coincided with the final exams and Muslim students had nothing to say about it, or, if they had, no one will listen. We hear the call to prayer from the Mosque next to the school in the middle of the test but no one is allowed to leave to go and pray.

    People who ask for these accommodations in the Western countries do not even dare to dream to ask for it in their countries of origin.

  38. gravenimage says

    May 19, 2019 at 10:25 pm

    When Worlds Collide: Exams During Ramadan
    ……………..

    The “filthy Infidels” always have to accommodate Islam…

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