In this new Anne Marie Waters Moment, Anne Marie discusses Islam’s Cruel Animal Slaughter in the U.K., unveiling the sadistic and brutal non-stun methods such as Halal.
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CRUSADER says
As we notice “Halal” signage more and more, it is important to retain the fuller background about the matter, so when we pass the establishments by, we reflect on what A.M. Waters has to tell us. She brings about clarity, like early morning dew prisms of sunrise sunlight…. Wake up! Halal ain’t “all that” Muzzies crack it up to be.
Save Europe says
I drive from Central London via South Norwood, Morden and on to home several times a week. Every kebab, curry restaurant, pizza takeaway, and fried chicken shop has Halal written on the windows. Even a fish and chip shop in Morden has a Halal sign – I assume for their burgers.
Any non Muslim British person who cares, should not be frequenting these businesses. The Bangladeshi owner of a curry house in my village, admitted to me, all his meat was Halal without informing the customers.
I pointed out to him that there were no Muslims living in the Village, and so there was no need for Halal meat.
Jayell says
“The Bangladeshi owner of a curry house in my village, admitted to me, all his meat was Halal without informing the customers.”…….That’s absolutely appalling. But not as appalling as the fact that this halal garbage is being fed to UK schoolchildren without telling either them or their parents, and even in uncontaminated` areas where there are few, if any, muslims. But even more seriously, we all know that fear and panic cause certain substances to be released into the bloodstream, and since animals who are no doubt slaughtered in a state of conscious extreme fear, is there any evidence whether or not the meat is in any way contaminated with these substances, which may affect those that consume it?
Save Europe says
Totally agree J ?
CRUSADER says
Complaining about Shari’ah Compliances, Child Marriage, FGM, Honor Violence…. point back at the complainer / protester as “RACIST” — which is such a ridiculous ad hominem.
One particular sick aspect of Halal practice of course is when Muslims are required to make an attempt to go to Mecca as part of their Hajj duty, and perform animal sacrifice; thus, enacting slicing at the neck of a living creature, allowing the blood to flow or spurt out, and thereby become familiar with the practice — so that in violent jihad against Kafir, there is some experience to draw upon for the average, Islam-complying devout Muslim just doing some duty …. The religious Muslim has now become a slaughterer. And this gets repeated annually, accumulating the numbers who are “experienced”.
Sickness of Islam!
CRUSADER says
“SINNER IN MECCA”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/08/muslim-secretly-films-warts-and-all-pilgrimage-to-mecca-gets-death-threats
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzshP2k5FMk#action=share
CRUSADER says
It’s the practice of ritual neck slicing (inuring the practitioner to this act, in effect!)…
and the getting used to blood splatter as part of religious sacredness which got my goat….
rubiconcrest says
Thank you for emphasizing that point. Ritual slaughter should have been abandoned long ago.
CRUSADER says
Just as with open, public slavery was internationally “abolished” by law and force,
animal rights (as with human rights) need to have attention established….
Slavery exists, for certain. Human “trafficking”, etc….
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Jayell says
That shot of thousands of muslims prostrating themselves in concert at the mosque in Mecca reminded me of newsreel shots of the Nuremberg rallies in Nazi Germany. But then, they’re basically the same thing.
Robert says
That shows your ignorance
Paul J says
I wonder when the RSPCA is going to start raiding halal butchers and charging the owners with animal cruelty. Or would that be too Islamophobic.
gravenimage says
PETA condemns this savagery.
CRUSADER says
News of Animal Slaughter from Houston…. and homeless “cooking” lessons:
*** Islamic feast draws upon tradition, animal slaughter
https://www.chron.com/life/houston-belief/article/Islamic-feast-draws-upon-tradition-animal-2103169.php
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KATY — Sam Kouka will perform the ritual hundreds of times during next week’s three-day celebration of Eid Ul-Adha, Arabic for the Feast of Sacrifice.
As he faces Mecca, gripping the head of a sacrificial goat or lamb, Kouka will pray, “In the name of the Almighty Lord, the Greatest … ”
Then, with a precise, quick stroke, Kouka’s blue-handled, keen-edged knife will cut the animal’s throat. Moments later, he will examine the animal and certify that its soul has left.
Eid Ul-Adha recalls Abraham’s willingness to sacrifice his son, Ismail, at Allah’s command. The boy was saved when Allah, convinced of Abraham’s faith, told Abraham to sacrifice a ram instead.
The event is recounted in the Koran, as well as the Jewish Torah and Christian Bible. In those versions, the son is Isaac.
The celebration is one of two mandatory worldwide feasts observed in Islam, said Aziz Siddiqi, president of the Islamic Society of Greater Houston. The society will mark the feast with a prayer service expected to draw more than 10,000 Muslims at 9 a.m. Tuesday at the George R. Brown Convention Center in downtown Houston.
After the service, many families attired in their finest clothes will go to area slaughterhouses such as Kouka’s Mercy Custom Slaughter in Katy to select an animal for sacrifice.
“We are following the commandment of almighty God to Abraham,” Siddiqi said.
Eid Ul-Adha also marks the concluding phase of Hajj in Saudi Arabia. About 2 million pilgrims are observing the once-in-a-lifetime requirement to visit Mecca and surrounding sacred sites.
Pilgrims and Muslims worldwide are required to sacrifice an acceptable animal — a goat, lamb, cow or camel — if they can afford it, Siddiqi said. A third of the animal, after it is ritually slaughtered, is kept by the family for their feast; the rest is given to friends and the poor.
This year, the Islamic Society of Greater Houston will donate 500 to 1,000 pounds of meat to benefit the SEARCH Homeless Project and Interfaith Ministries for Greater Houston’s Kids Meals. Part of the meat will be used for classes to help the homeless learn how to cook.
As an alternative to the ritual sacrifice, urban Muslims can purchase meat at markets that follow Islamic law on ritual slaughter, Siddiqi said. Or they can pay for sacrifices in their ancestral land.
Kouka maintains a year-round herd of goats and lambs at his 20-acre compound because Muslims also offer ritual sacrifice to celebrate births, cures or special occasions. He expects more than 600 families to visit his rural slaughterhouse during Eid Ul-Adha.
The ritual sacrifices will take place only after special Eid prayers have been said at an area mosque. According to Muslim law, the animals must be healthy and unblemished, Kouka said. Families who participate in the ritual select the animal before it is taken to a holding pen. The animal cannot be forced or dragged to its sacrifice; panicked or balky animals are returned to the herd, he said.
In the pen, Kouka or one of his trained staff approach the animal and greet it with the traditional “Peace be upon you.”
“You should love the animal,” Kouka said, noting that the animal to be sacrificed must be treated kindly and humanely since its soul will report on its treatment to God.
“The animals must not see the knife before slaughter and are not supposed to see each other getting slaughtered,” he said.
“The ideal of Islamic ritual kill is that the animal hear that he was slaughtered under the name of the almighty Lord. The best destiny of the animal or the destiny an animal seeks is to be slaughtered with God’s name mentioned over it.”
Families usually allow the professionals to slaughter the animal, but some family heads exercise the right to sacrifice the animal. Either way, the family is expected to view the kill. Seeing the death of an animal makes the family conscious of the suffering animals must go through to feed humans, Kouka said. And it should make them grateful to God for the food they eat.
“We don’t have the right to take life,” Siddiqi said. But God has given man authority to take animal life as long as it is done in the Lord’s name, he said.
Kouka, 39, never planned to establish a slaughterhouse. He came to the United States from Kuwait at 17 to study at the University of North Carolina at Charlotte. For 13 years, he owned a video store in Houston. But after purchasing land in Katy for a short-lived emu and ostrich effort, Kouka realized the need for a facility that would follow Islamic laws on slaughter.
“It is very rewarding,” Kouka said of his work. “It makes you more merciful and humane. It is hard but very rewarding. Lucky animals are slaughtered here.”
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*** CHRISTIANITY did away with any need for animal sacrifice, as the Sacrifice had ultimately been made by and paid for by Christ — for us, under God’s Grace….
MAGNIFICENT !
Tama says
This site I’m quotingc have a lot of sparkling stuff like everybody clapped but usually very one sided in it. Just uugh. And it’s Canada.
A young kid didn’t go for a party food called halal because he misheard it but later the parent says it’s okay in future. So close.
https://notalwaysright.com/hail-satan-and-pass-the-gravy/155011/
Mom: “Was there food at the party?”
Brother: “Yes, Mommy, but I didn’t eat it because it was blessed by another god and I believe in Jesus.”
Mom: “Oh. Okay, then.”
Brother: “Yes, the lady kept saying it was blessed in Hell.”
Mom: “Did she maybe say, ‘Blessed Halal’?”
Brother: “Maybe. Why?”
Mother: “There’s a big difference. It would have been fine if you had eaten it.”
gravenimage says
I think the kid was right.
Save Europe says
More than 70 percent of New Zealand lamb in the UK is Halal….and this was back in 2014
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2622830/amp/Millions-eating-halal-food-without-knowing-How-big-brand-shops-restaurants-sell-ritually-slaughtered-meat-dont-label-it.html
CRUSADER says
Why not have it prepared by Kosher methods?
https://www.diffen.com/difference/Halal_vs_Kosher
Forbidden Meat
Islamic law prohibits certain animals and meat products to be haram or unlawful:
Meat not slaughtered according to Islamic Law
Animals whose blood is not fully drained.
Pig and other by products.
Donkey & Mule
Dead animals
Carnivorous animals
Birds of Prey
Any marine animals except for fish.
Amphibians
All Insects except for Locust.
Animal Blood & Reproductive organs
Pancreas & Gall Bladder
The following animals and meat products are not considered kosher according to Jewish Dietary law:
Animals not slaughtered according to Jewish law.
Animals whose blood is not fully drained.
Camel
Pig
Rabbit/Hare
Predatory and Scavenger birds
Shellfish, catfish, sturgeon, swordfish, lobster, shellfish, crabs and all water mammals
Rodents
Reptiles and amphibians
Milk, eggs, fat, organs obtained from prohibited animals.
Slaughter Guidelines
Meat is considered to be halal if it is clean, lawful and slaughtered with certain guidelines:
The slaughterer should be Muslim.
The animal should be prayed over before slaughter.
The knife must be sharp to minimize pain.
The throat of the animal is cut and the knife may not be lifted before the cut is complete.
The Trachea, Esophagus and both jugular veins must be severed or at least three of the four arteries must be severed for the meat to be Halal.
All the blood should be drawn from the animal.
For meat to be kosher, the animal is slaughtered following certain guidelines:
The “Shochet “or slaughterer should be Jewish with knowledge of Jewish laws.
The slaughter should be a quick, deep stroke with no nicks.
All blood should be drawn from the animal.
The lungs of the animal are inspected to make sure there are no defects to deem the meat Kosher.
mgoldberg says
The animal cannot evidence any sign of pain, any sign of such invalidates the koshering process as it indicates pain that could and must be avoided in the slaughtering process. Also note, that the laws of kashrut (koshering) are only for jews. That is others are free do and practice it but have no obligation to follow this complicated diety set of laws and practices. In other words, for a non jew to enjoy their pork sandwich, bbq, et al, is no sin, and shouldn’t be seen as such. In halal, it is considered a ‘dirtiness’ that shouldn’t be around or seen by a muslim. Hence the tyranny of Islam versus the far more complicated Koshering laws yet in no way impeeding the diets and beliefs of non jews.
PRCS says
mg,
While it’s true that the laws of kashrut are only for jews, I have to disagree with you about this:
Should the animal express pain as its neck is being cut with a knife in a single, unbroken move, neither the cut nor the pain are irreversible.
If I’m wrong about that, I’m open to correction.
PRCS says
both the cut and the pain
mgoldberg says
I think you mean that even if the cut is precise if it does cause pain… then what?
It is no longer kosher, not the Glatt Kosher, which is the most strict. If I’ve misunderstood your comment….sorry.
PRCS says
mg,
Thanks for your response.
No, you haven’t misunderstood. The Kosher issue aside, inflicting unnecessary pain–though unintentional–is my concern.
There’s no way to know, in advance, if the animal will experience pain.
Having spent my youth on several farms (agriculture, cattle, pigs) I am opposed to religious exemptions from humane slaughter laws/regulations.
My two cents.
kangi_yotaka says
Since I can’t reply to PRCS inline, I’ll put it here.
Because the knife used in kosher slaughter is so sharp, and is checked for nicks between each animal, I am fairly certain it doesn’t hurt very much at all. Cutting yourself, even quite badly, on accident with a sharp knife doesn’t hurt at all in the moment. You can be aware that you just sliced your finger (or hand) open and (unless that knife had lemon juice on it) it doesn’t hurt in the slightest yet. What does hurt is tugging at the edges of the wound, which shechita specifically forbids.
Even paper cuts can go unnoticed until you wash your hands.
The idea in kosher slaughter is that by severing the trachea and esophagus in one slice, it’s minimally painful, and the massive and rapid drop in blood pressure renders the animal unconscious in less than a minute.
Is it fun for the animal? I imagine they have a sense that Something Is Not Right, but I don’t think it’s likely to be more painful than an inadvertent cut with a very sharp knife..
PRCS says
Ky,
Thanks for your post.
I am opposed to religious exemptions from humane animal slaughter rules/regulations because there is the potential, the likelihood actually, that an un-stunned animal will experience unnecessary pain during such a procedure, and remains during the bleed out.
As at lease one stunning method allows the heart to keep beating for a short while–actual death resulting from the knife’s cut–there is no reason–IMO– to not stun it first.
That’s how I see it.
Renate says
People who care about animal welfare are not “racists” or “Islamophobes”. Western countries have had standards for stunning animals on the books for years before anyone ever even considered Islam. If the West would just enforce its own laws, we wouldn’t have Muslims distorting everything to get their own way.
Angemon says
Indeed
Sharyati says
With a tremendous improvement of food chemistry and technology a wide variety of “Vegetarian/Vegan meats” are available in super market shelves. Veggies or vegans have a wide varieties of all foods stuffs from ice creams, diary products, bakery products etc to choose from. Thus the killing of animals by all possible ways Halal or otherwise an be avoided. Also the factory farming industry is the biggest source of pollution, the biggest water guzzler and hogs 2 times the corn needed to feed the world. Also factory farms also treat there animals horribly. Watch “Cowspiracy” for example. It left me so depressed that i wonder how could people think of eating meat at all!! Even your free range, organic, grass fed, blah blah whatever meat is not cruelty free because when a cow calves the calf is taken away from the cow even on those “Family farms” and the cow is sent to be slaughtered once it stops milking. So all these labels are just designed to make you feel good.
We have been Veggies for generations and my grandparents and great grandparents have lived past their 80s. Considering that 70 years ago there were no labor saving devices we have today, they had enough strength to do all the hard back breaking work. So meat is not needed for a healthy life. It can be totally eschewed. Also in Islam also there is no mandate that one should eat only meat.
Walter Sieruk says
This article about Muslims in the UK being cruel to animals is no shock to me at all. Not even a little bit. For in the last century I first spent some time in Egypt and then a few years later went to Turkey and in both Muslim countries animals were treated in cruel ways . While in Turkey, I spoke to a Turkish/Muslim man about this ,he even a a good education .Nevertheless he and well as other Muslims had no concept ,at all ,about even the idea of animal rights .
gravenimage says
Muslims in general are hideously cruel to animals.
James Lincoln says
The Muslims in the UK are using every possible reason to label something as “Halal”.
They are essentially selling their “brand” to the public – a clever marketing technique.
gravenimage says
Even worse, there was a Muslim restaurant in San Francisco touting Halal as “cruelty free”. They must have been laughing up their sleeves at that one.
gravenimage says
Anne Marie Waters Moment: Islam’s Cruel Animal Slaughter in the U.K.
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Good to see Anne Marie Waters speaking out here.
John says
Halal, a Tax to provide income for Sharia and Terrorism.
Marigold says
Australia has been pandering to Muslims for decades via the live sheep trade to the Middle East,
murlimews says
In Wegman’s (the largest and most esteemed grocery stores in Fairfax County, VA) one of their TWO Halal meat sections is right next to the Kosher meats.
I was wondering where Anne Marie Waters was speaking, if it’s in the UK or the US, increasingly you are not only verbally branded a racist, etc., but arrested.
Please keep speaking the truth, Ms. Waters, if I lived in the UK you’d definitely get my vote!
murlimews says
I encourage readers to scope out their local farmer’s markets as more and more farmers are cutting out the middle man and selling directly to the public, primarily grass fed and organic in all but name, as the feds ensure the organic label cost mega bucks. You can usually visit the farms too to see their husbandry practices too!
Terra Nova says
All meat should be forbidden. All the animals are suffering tremendously, and for what? Tradition? And I don’t know how Kosher animals are slaughtered, but any way, muderous too I presume like Halal.. It should be forbidden right now.
I have seen muslim men walking their dogs strict on the line, and if the dog tucks the line for one moment, they get kicked and beaten and yelled at, I have seen big dogs keeping on their bellies over the grass, pleading with their owners not to kick them. Absolutely horrible.
But if you don’t stop this and put order in your own house, nature will do it for you and it will be horrible.
Animals have souls too, you kick God, His souls is in the animal too, and you will carry the consequences for that too..
You behave worse then wild animals, who get shot a a trofee. Humanity !!!
mgoldberg says
‘All meat should be forbidden’- you say. I disagree. You can have your tyranny. I will fight for the right to eat and drink and be free. Also, when you say ‘I don’t know how Kosher animals are slaughtered’ only shows you lack information and or the desire to consider your own utopian plan. when you see muslims kicking their dogs, and or torturing animals, that is indeed, expressly forbidden in the Torah, in judaism. The kindness to animals recognizes their spirit and their right to not be tormented. And it is explicit and stated so.
You want your utopian world, you keep it, in your house.
Sharyati says
mgoldberg i disagree with you. When Terra Nova says all meat should be forbidden it is true. This is not tyranny but the recognition that animals too have a right to live. They want to live, reproduce, love and die naturally. Have you seen animals taken to a slaughter house in trucks? See the pain and fear and the anticipation of death. Have you seen how piglets want to escape being gassed, calves crying at being separated from the mother cow and the cow running helplessly behind the truck or van carrying it away? Will you accept the same if it happened to your child or will your mother accept it when you were snatched away from here?
Kosher, Halal blah blah whatever the method of slaughter, it is just not possible to “Humanely” slaughter an animal. This is just an oxymoron.The issue goes beyond religion. This is not an Utopian world. But this is an attempt to live non violently and spread kindness wherever possible. The meat that is mass produced needs lots of water, land to graze for the animals, tons of grains to fatten them which can be fed to humans. As i said in an earlier comment the animal farming industry is the worst pollutant on earth. Even grass fed, organic, free range etc are the same. Killing is killing. You have no right of choice over the life of other beings. You did not create them.
Robert says
Sharyati, AMEN!
kangi_yotaka says
“murderous I presume”
Glad to know how you feel about Jews.
Battle says
Free Islam.