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Egyptian reformist: “Caliphates through the ages” were “terrorist caliphates, perpetrated the same things ISIS does”

Jun 22, 2019 11:28 am By Robert Spencer

Islam Behery says: “The caliphates throughout the ages, starting with Yazid Ibn Mu’awiya – let’s not get into an argument about all those who preceded him – and all the way to the end of the Ottoman state, had been terrorist caliphates. Terrorist states ruled the people and perpetrated all the same things ISIS does. ISIS burns people, and this happened in the past. ISIS rapes women who are considered slave-girls, and this happened in the past. ISIS wants to establish a state that will spread all over the world, by means of swords, bombs, and fire… All of this has happened in the past. ISIS accuses all the people on Earth of heresy. This has happened in the past. What would you call the massacre of the Armenians by the Ottoman state? These were ages of a terrorist caliphate. The terrorism was organized by the establishment.”

He is quite right, as is illustrated abundantly from Islamic sources in The History of Jihad From Muhammad to ISIS, the first and only comprehensive narrative history of 1,400 years of jihad worldwide. Get informed and able to fight the all-encompassing deceptions: order your copy here.

“Egyptian Reformist Islam Behery: Terrorism Did Not Begin with Muslim Brotherhood; ISIS-Like Ideology Existed in Islamic Caliphates,” MEMRI, June 6, 2019:

Egyptian reformist intellectual Islam Behery said in a June 6, 2019 show on Al-Hurra TV (U.S.) that Islamic terrorism did not begin with Hassan Al-Banna and the establishment of the Muslim Brotherhood in 1928. Rather, Behery argued that terrorist ideology had been present in the Islamic caliphates that had existed up until then, which he described as terrorist states. Behery argued that the caliphates had perpetrated the same crimes perpetrated by ISIS, such as burning people, raping slave-girls, accusing people of heresy, and aiming to establish a global Islamic state. He also said that the Armenian genocide perpetrated by the Ottomans had been an example of this terrorism. Behery said that Hassan Al-Banna and the Muslim Brotherhood were part of a new era of terrorism that emerged after the fall of Islamic establishments.

Islam Behery: “In one debate, I was asked a very nice question: ‘If you claim that the books of heritage are the reason for terrorism, why did terrorism appear only in 1928, with Hassan Al-Banna?’ My answer, of which I am absolutely convinced, is that terrorism had started in [Islamic] establishments, and when the establishment disappeared, terrorism was [embraced] by the [Muslim Brotherhood] organizations. The caliphates throughout the ages, starting with Yazid Ibn Mu’awiya – let’s not get into an argument about all those who preceded him – and all the way to the end of the Ottoman state, had been terrorist caliphates. Terrorist states ruled the people and perpetrated all the same things ISIS does. ISIS burns people, and this happened in the past. ISIS rapes women who are considered slave-girls, and this happened in the past. ISIS wants to establish a state that will spread all over the world, by means of swords, bombs, and fire… All of this has happened in the past. ISIS accuses all the people on Earth of heresy. This has happened in the past. What would you call the massacre of the Armenians by the Ottoman state? These were ages of a terrorist caliphate. The terrorism was organized by the establishment.

[…]

“In 1921 – three years after the collapse of the [Ottoman] caliphate in 1925 – Hassan Al-Banna and the Muslim Brotherhood emerged and a new era of terrorism began.”

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  1. CRUSADER says

    Jun 22, 2019 at 11:33 am

    Gratitude to MEMRI.

  2. CRUSADER says

    Jun 22, 2019 at 11:40 am

    Prior ot Yazid, of course was also a time of Islamic Terror spread of dread,
    particularly attributed to the personage of Mohamhead, if he existed, that is.

    Some low down on Yazid the First:

    Yazīd ibn Mu‘āwiya (Arabic: يزيد بن معاوية بن أبي سفيان‎; 646 – 12 November 683), commonly known as Yazid I, was the second caliph of the Umayyad caliphate. He ruled for three years from 680 until his death in 683. His appointment was the first hereditary succession in Islamic history and his caliphate was marked by the death of Muhammad’s grandson Husayn ibn Ali and the start of the crisis known as the Second Fitna.

    His nomination in 676 (56 AH) by Muawiya was opposed by several prominent Muslims from Hejaz. Following his accession, after Muawiya’s death in 680, Husayn and Abd Allah ibn al-Zubayr refused to recognize him and fled to sanctuary in Mecca. When Husayn was on his way to Kufa to lead a revolt against Yazid, he was killed with his small band of supporters by Yazid’s forces in the Battle of Karbala. The killing of Husayn led to resentment in Hejaz, where Ibn al-Zubayr centered his opposition to the rule of Yazid, and was supported by many people in Mecca and Medina. After failed attempts to regain the confidence of Ibn al-Zubayr and the people of Hejaz through diplomacy, Yazid sent an army to end the rebellion. The army defeated the Medinese in the Battle of al-Harrah in August 683 and the city was given over to three days of pillage. Later, siege was laid to Mecca, which lasted for several weeks. The siege ended with the death of Yazid in November 683 and the empire fell to civil war.

    Yazid is considered an illegitimate ruler and a tyrant by many Muslims due to his hereditary succession, the death of Husayn and the attack on the city of Medina by his forces. Modern historians present a milder view of him, and consider him a capable ruler, albeit less successful than his father.

  3. JW_Reader says

    Jun 22, 2019 at 11:42 am

    Here is another interesting video of Hamed Abdel Samad, a German writer of Egyptian decent who is arguing the same thing- ISIS is doing nothing new and is following Mohamed. What is interesting is that the TV host is taking side with an Islamist and trying to shut Samad down. Samad threatens to walk out and then only could finish his arguments.

  4. Angemon says

    Jun 22, 2019 at 11:52 am

    The caliphates throughout the ages, starting with Yazid Ibn Mu’awiya – let’s not get into an argument about all those who preceded him – and all the way to the end of the Ottoman state, had been terrorist caliphates.

    Indeed – when it’s a state imposing on its citizens it’s seldomly, if ever, called terrorism. Fascist and communist regimes are often described as “authoritarian”, “brutal”, “repressive” or “oppressive” but not “terrorist”, accurate as that term may be.

  5. mortimer says

    Jun 22, 2019 at 11:54 am

    THE BUCK STOPS HERE … at the ‘door’ of the Islamic source texts.

    In other words, ‘It’s the IDEOLOGY, stupid.’

    • Rufolino says

      Jun 23, 2019 at 4:46 am

      Surprised ? Given the hateful source-texts it is no surprise whatever that historical caliphates operated like ISIS.

      “I have been made victorious by terror.”

  6. Walter Sieruk says

    Jun 22, 2019 at 12:07 pm

    On the topic of having a reformation within Islam, a very different yet possible valid and true view on this had been explain by the Christian, Nabeel Qureshi ,who was in the past was a Muslim .He wrote in his book which is entitled ANSWERING JIHAD wrote about the suggestion “that Islam needs a reformation .What they may not realize is that radical Islam is the Islamic reformation. This might sound shocking, but consider: Just as the Protestant Reformation was an attempt to raze centuries of Catholic tradition and return to the canonical text, so radical Islam is an attempt to raze centuries of traditions of various schools of Islamic thought and return to the canonical text of the Quran and Muhammad’s life. This desire to return to the original form of Islam can be seen not only in the words of Sayyid Qutb, but also in his method. He focused almost entirely on references to the Quran. it is true also of the Muslim Brotherhood and ISIS today, whose publications and proclamations are punctuated by references to the Quran and Hadith literature. Radical Muslim organizations are explicit in their aim to reform Islam.” page 75. Further on pages 79,80 the author makes his case clear by writing that “Radical Islam is the Islamic reformation . The endeavor to modernize Islam and make it relevant to the twenty -first century is called progressive Islam. Progressive Muslim thought leaders, though few in number and limited in influence are present and are working to recreate Islam’s religious framework from within. Indeed, that is what it would take for Islam to become devoted to peace – not reformation but reimagination.

    • James Lincoln says

      Jun 22, 2019 at 7:21 pm

      Walter Sieruk says,

      “… radical Islam is the Islamic reformation.”

      This is a profound statement and, if correct, has equally profound implications for the Western world.

      Thank you for bringing this up for discussion.

      • t. says

        Jun 22, 2019 at 11:52 pm

        Walter is right, James. The problem lis that the majority of people in the west are having a hard time understanding this.

    • gravenimage says

      Jun 22, 2019 at 8:22 pm

      So true.

    • Steve Meikle says

      Jun 23, 2019 at 1:34 am

      Quire right!! what the question comes down to is what are the core texts of Islam such that the community has moved away from them. and must return thereto Just as in the Reformation in the West this was the very same question.

      The difference between Christ and Islam lies in what is in those texts. Love your God and your neighbour is the Christian doctrine and war on the kaffir is the Muslim doctrine.

      War is heresy when done by Christians and peace is the heresy when done by Muslims.

      I must thank Robert Spencer for enlightening me on the doctrines of Islam. I knew enough, as a Christian, to know it was against Christ but thought it was civilized and humane.

      That latter thanks be to God – YHWH not the moon god of mecca – I no longer think

  7. CRUSADER says

    Jun 22, 2019 at 12:17 pm

    Ha ! Ha !

    It’s also this: The Stupid Ideology !!!!

    • Walter Sieruk says

      Jun 23, 2019 at 2:02 pm

      To Crusader, you are right in keyboarding that it’s “The stupid ideology ” The important thing for people to understand the that this stupid ideology of Islamic terrorism entirely rests upon of the foundation of Qu ran based Islamic jihad theology

  8. Krishna says

    Jun 22, 2019 at 12:35 pm

    he is absolutely the The past caliphates were not only like ISIS but more worse than ISIS

  9. No Muzzies Here says

    Jun 22, 2019 at 1:26 pm

    Caliphate, ISIS, Islamic State, Hezbollah, Boko Haram. All the same thing. Militant, political Islam.

  10. Norger says

    Jun 22, 2019 at 1:31 pm

    Yes. ISIS, al Quaeda, the Taliban etc. all have totally plausible interpretations of Islam, consistent with the way that other major Islamic groups/regimes (that have also self-identifed as pious Muslims) have interpreted the faith for centuries. Also, ISIS Islam = Saudi Islam. Completely mainstream.

  11. Battle says

    Jun 22, 2019 at 7:27 pm

    Free Islam

  12. gravenimage says

    Jun 22, 2019 at 8:23 pm

    Egyptian reformist: “Caliphates through the ages” were “terrorist caliphates, perpetrated the same things ISIS does”
    ………………………..

    Islam Behery is spot on. I hope he is able to stay safe.

  13. Dano says

    Jun 23, 2019 at 4:32 am

    Well, he won’t last long after stating the truth about islam.

  14. UNCLE VLADDI says

    Jun 23, 2019 at 10:50 pm

    Such honesty is un-islamic!
    He must be an apostate!

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