Turkish leader Recep Tayyip Erdogan is inciting religious battle again in his supremacist bid to establish Islam above all faiths. He has now declared in his pre-election rant that “there are people who want to see Istanbul as Constantinople….this is Istanbul, also known as Islam-bul, this is not Constantinople!”
Some other examples of Erdogan’s bid to establish Islam as supreme:
Following Austria’s move to shut down seven jihad spreading mosques last June, Erdogan threatened: “These measures taken by the Austrian prime minister are, I fear, leading the world toward a war between the cross and the crescent”.
Erdogan has called for an army of Islam to wage war against Israel, and has pronounced that “Europe will be Muslim“; meanwhile Brussels, has been trying to facilitate Turkey’s long-sought full membership in the EU.
Professor of political history at Istanbul University, Mehmet O. Alkan, has stated: “Erdogan, like the Ottomans before him, sees Turkey as the vanguard of Sunni Muslims from the Caucusus to the Middle East and North Africa. Re-establishing Turkish dominance over Sunni Islam is the backbone of his foreign policy.”
“’It’s Not Constantinople, It’s Istanbul; It’s Islam-bul’, Turkey’s Erdogan Says”, by Nick Kampouris, Greek Reporter Europe, June 3, 2019:
The Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan declared that still ”there are people who want to see Istanbul as Constantinople,” on Saturday.
Erdogan was participating in the series of public spectacles and events which Turkey organizes every year on the occasion of the fall of Constantinople in 1453.
Speaking in front of people who attended a public prayer in Istanbul on Saturday, the Turkish President said, among other things, ”this is Istanbul, also known as Islam-bul, this is not Constantinople!”
Erdogan added that ”some people want to see Istanbul as Constantinople again, but we have twenty-two days to fight against those people!”
The Turkish president was making an indirect attack on mayoral candidate Ekrem İmamoğlu, who is competing against Erdogan’s favorite Binali Yıldırım. The on-again, off-again elections will take place on June 23, because the first elections, which brought İmamoğlu into the lead by a narrow margin, were cancelled.
The great city of Constantinople, established in 330 AD by the Roman Emperor Constantine, was built on top of the ancient Greek city of Byzantium.
After its fall to the Ottoman forces in 1453, its name was converted to Istanbul.
Even the name ”Istanbul,” however, which the Turkish President seems to prefer, derives from the Greek phrase ”Is tin poli,” which means “into the city.”
Mirta says
Extremely dangerous character…
revereridesagain says
Indeed. Where is Vlad the Impaler when we need him? Earth to Erdogan: Last time your town was a bastion of civilization it WAS called Constantinople.
I’ve never been able to work up much interest in the Ottoman Empire and certainly have no wish to watch a re-run, even if it is summer.
William A Carr says
As I have often said Erdogan is the Islamic Hitler and Islam is his Aryan race, superior to all others.
Turkey joining the EU would be a complete travesty and bring about the end of Western civilisation as we know it.
60 million Muslims would gain the right to enter Europe with any controls; that is what Erdogan dreams of
William A Carr says
Without any controls
Carol the 1st says
June/July – just in time for another version of the Taurid Meteor shower.
Jule Bacal says
I had to laugh….Islam-bull is right.
NATO/EU may be a world enemy. Perhaps the Brit Queen sees it coming and want to make sure US will help out. This is very dangerous. EU is like old Germany in its goals. Democratic Christians will not even call Hezbollah a terrorist org.
Emilie Green says
“this is Istanbul, also known as Islam-bul”
I think the mic got cut off,
“this is Istanbul, also known as Islam-bul-shiitte”
mortimer says
Agree with Erdogan, for the same reason as you do … ISLAM=BULL. Indeed, Islam is based on legends concocted by the amoral caliphs whose driving interest was to replace the Persian and Roman empires with their own. Caliph Abd al Malik invented Islam as the state religion of his empire and others went along with it, finding the concocted religion of Islam to be politically useful for controlling the population and forcing them to die for the caliph’s emolument.
The Koran is a troop motivator. The Koran cannot be defended on any level as serious literature. It’s a hastily assembled, poorly edited collection of incoherent sermons and séance mutterings of a mentally ill spirit medium.
G179 says
.. or Islam-bully
No Muzzies Here says
Every so often they give us a peek behind the curtain, and we see their goal of converting the world to Islam by any means necessary.
John Allan says
Indeed: Islam bul… shit
BegrensEuropa! says
The name of the city was Constantinople until post-World War I turkification changed it to Istanbul, which derives from a greek phrase meaning ‘into the city’. Islambul is a Turkish folk etymology that lacks all historical evidence. The Turks brutally conquered Asia Minor over a period of 500 years and ethnically cleansed in the 500 years after that.
GreekEmpress says
+1
gravenimage says
Spot on, BegrensEurope!.
SAFI says
BegrensEuropa! I agree except for that often cited etymology “into the city” which I’ve never found convincing. I don’t rule out the possibility of it being correct but given how the Turks corrupted Smyrna into “Izmir” and Attaleia inro “Adalya” but also Nikaia into “Iznik”, Nikomedia into “Iznit”, Amisos into “Samsun”, Trapezounta into “Trabzon”, , Kaesareia into Kayseri, Sevasteia into Sivas, Antioch into Antakya Adrionople into “Edirne”, Thessalonike into “Selanik”, Crete into Girit (and the list goes on) why do people try to discover any sort of meaningful etymology behind the simple turkish butchering of Constantinupolis into Istanbul? The Turks simply did what they’re experts at, butchering the original greco-roman names of the places they conquered(after butchering the inhabitants of said places) which is if perfectly in line with the quranic butchering of evangelion(gospel) into “injeel”. No need for some fancy etymology to explain.
Maria W. says
brilliant
Richard says
When the Ottomans conquered Constantinople it was pure butchery. Women were raped in front of their dying husbands and the children were enslaved.
gravenimage says
Grimly true. Especially awful was the sacking of Hagia Sofia, where women, children, the elderly, disabled, monks and nuns had taken sanctuary. The were raped and slaughtered, and the survivors enslaved.
Maria W. says
correct
Anonymous says
http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/constantinople.htm
Martin says
Over 300,000 People Attend Tarawih Prayers to Mark Conquest of Constantinople
More than 300,000 people gathered in Istanbul for Tarawih.
The open-air prayers were held to mark the 566th anniversary of the conquest of Constantinople which was led by Fatih Sultan Mehmed.
The Turkish president Recep Tayyip Erdoğan also attended.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uODn_NP2eg
Martin says
video 2
Martin says
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4U0y_zplNY
gravenimage says
Repulsive but no surprise.
Martin says
video 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83WkJgRQXGk
mortimer says
What a spectacle of delusion. 300,000 men showing up for a celebration of genocide. A huge string of tuneless wailing.
SAFI says
What a spectacle indeed. And every year there’s similar “events” and rallies to celebrate the conquest(and the fact that the original inhabitants were completely driven out of “islam-bol”.) You won’t ever see any Turks or other muslims self-flagellate the way you see some guilty westerners do in order to atone for the sins of their colonialiast ancestors. Their logic is “Conquest is bad, only when the infidels do it, not when it’s being carried by the faithful”. Ironically, there’s western scholars in western universities who seem to agree with that self-serving islamist logic aided by Saudi(and Turkish) money flowing into their departments and bank accounts.
Keys says
Not a woman in sight.
gravenimage says
Spot on, Mortimer and Keys.
Gail Griffin says
Tulsi Gabbard has no aloha for Erdogan. Knows him for what he is.
ntesdorf says
Constantinople was a civilised multicultural Capital. Istanbul (Islambul) is a degenerate backwater of religious prejudice and Islamic mindlessness and hatred.
SAFI says
Believe it or not Constantinople(as it was still called) was actually quite diverse a hundred years ago. Muslims were the majority but Greeks made 30% of the population and there were also many Armenians and other Christians living in it including people from western Europe. Then Turkey allegedly became “secular” which somehow resulted to an Islambul which is now 100% muslim. Economically though it’s far from a backwater today despite increasing islamization.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
This diversity existed only because of dhimitude and conquest. The Turkish caliphate was amassed and enriched by the endless and bloody conquest of numerous states/peoples, and the extensive pirate activities of it vassals. Of course there are going to be conquered dhimmi peoples in the City!
And the Turks have a very long and poorly documented history killing their various dhimi nations off in purges. This is pure textbook Mohammadism. Secular or not is just a veneer. You make it sound like an inter-faith picnic.
Although Sultan Mehmed II’s conquest of the City did not trigger its greatest decline (that definitely came with the sack of 1204), it did finally turn it into an empty hull of what it once was. Mehmed stupidly thought he would gain a burgeoning metropolis but all he gained were walls and buildings in disrepair. Although he attempted to incentivize Venetian and Genoese traders to come back, the program never did work.
If one adjusts for the economies and populations of the two periods (then and now) then one can easily say that present day Constantinople is little more than a populated museum piece. Certainly not a driver of world trade, and a jewel of art and architecture.
SAFI says
No, I certainly didn’t mean it was an “inter-faith pic-nic”. I simply pointed out the indisputable fact that it was a lot more diverse a hundred years ago that it is presently(ironically perhaps, given that back then it was still the capital of a caliphate in some other provinces of which during the same time christians were facing genocide).
I stand by what I said about it’s modern economy. With all the new airports and new bridges over the Bosporus that I see springing up I find it hard to describe contemporary istanbul as a backwater. It’s by far the most advanced city in Turkey and the largest in Europe by population. I don’t remember for how much of Turkey’s GDP it accounts exactly but it’s certainly a huge amount. And last I checked Turkey’s economy was 17th largest globally which is a lot higher than where it was when Erdogan took power. As for being a “driver of world trade” honestly I can think of very few cities in all of Europe and the Middle East that could even compete.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
Istanbul’s population is 15 million. Cairo is 19.5 million. A populous city does not make for a prosperous city much less a modern city. If what you say is true and Istanbul is 100% Muslim then its economy, if it is now modern, won’t be staying modern for much longer. The two don’t mix.
Despite what the Turks think or desire, Turkey and Istanbul are not European. Turkey is in Asia. Geography.
SAFI says
I think Erdogan has already proven that false. Turkey already has a much more advanded industrial sector than for example it’s christian neighbors Bulgaria and Greece(which are also EU members.) Islam seems quite capable of co-existing with a modern industrial economy even if it can’t co-exist with democracy, human rights and a modern society. A sizable segment of turkish society doesn’t listen to music(because of the islamic prohibiion) but that hasn’t stopped Erdogan from seeking to establish scientific bases in Antarctica and building nuclear plants in southern Turkey (as his first step towards developing nuclear weapons.) Speaking of weapons the Turks already produce on their own 70% of the weapons systems used by their armed forces, and their goal is to reach complete autarky in a few years from now and become themselves major arms exporters. Now one may think that Erdogan is funding all those projects because he’s an over-ambitious megalomaniac would-be Caliph and they would be right but the the problem is that he increasingly has the economic and military strength to pursue those ambitions.
SAFI says
Also, geographically, Istanbul is certainly in Europe. Turkey as a whole may not be in Europe geographically but Erdogan has very large influence over Europe importantly through the 4 million or so Turks deciding the elections of Europe’s most powerful country (Germany)
gravenimage says
Any headway Turkey has made is because Islam was sidelined for decades under Kemalism. It is only recently that Turkey is re-Isamizing under Erdogan.
And only a small Western sliver of Turkey is in Europe–under Islam, this is *definitely* the east.
And Turkey’s per capita gdp is just 60% of Greece’s.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
The Russians have a better claim to being European than the Turks. The fact that there is a mob of Turks in Europe is not a good thing. They are not European in outlook, and they certainly aren’t Western no matter how secular they are or think they are. They are nothing more than cheap labour that treasonous European industry imported in order to up the profits.
I once knew an expat couple; he was a Turk and she was Austrian. He thought himself modern and secular, but all his attitudes were medieval. She didn’t say boo about the marriage but you didn’t have to be a mind reader to tell she felt trapped and miserable.
And if Islam is so good for business then why isn’t the Ottoman caliphate still around? Considering how long it’s been around, by now it should be the biggest economy in the world.
SAFI says
OK I think we should clear a couple misunderstandings first.
1. I never said that Turkey is European or that the Turks are European culturally or otherwise. I simply stated that Istanbul is in Europe GEOGRAPHICALLY and I only did so because your exact words were “Despite what the Turks think or desire, Turkey and Istanbul are not European. Turkey is in Asia. Geography.” Had you not justified your assertion based on GEOGRAPHY I would not have insisted on correcting you. But the way you phrased it kind of implied that Istanbul is in Asia geographically, which seemed to be false based on the map that I have in front of me. Not that I ever tried to make a big point out of that fact, other than a passing mention of Istanbul currently being the most populous city in Europe(as well as in Turkey) which bytheway has been the case for the majority of its history since 330 AD(during both Byzantine and Ottoman eras). Oh and by the way I didn’t need YOU to make me aware of Russia’s claim to europeaness. I know enough history to prevent me from succumbing to USA’s/NATO’s insanely ignorant(and arogant) definition of Europe which somehow completely leaves out it’s biggest nation.
2. I never claimed that “Islam is good for business” or even that it’s intrisically better for business than any other religion or social model. I simply questioned your assertion that Turkey becoming more islamic must inevitably lead to economic decline. I also don’t deny that “Kemalism” did serious efforts to drag an extremely backward society towards modernity(though not necessarily towards democracy). But with that said, I doubt there has been any other period in the last hundred years under any “kemalist” regime during which Turkey saw the rate of economic growth and industrial development that it saw during the last 15 or so Islamist years under Erdogan’s sultanship. You can loathe Erdogan and his brand of politics -as I certainly do- without trying to take away from him the indisputable stides he’s made towards developing a modern industrial economy increasingly capable of supporting his megalomaniacal ambitions of bringing back Islam’s Empire. For the moment, the only obvious way in which increasing islamization has negatively(albeit indireclty) affected the turkish economy is by earning Turkey a few new enemies, most notably the United States under president Trump, whose no-nonsense approach against Sultan Erdogan’s provocations last summer, lead to the sanctions which crippled Turkey’s currency. But even that is hardly a good example of how “more Islam” destroys economic growth. About Turkey’s GDP per capita being only 60% of Greece’s I don’t know if that’s still the case but even if it is believe me that gap is closing fast. And as for the “nature” of their respective economies I would argue that Turkey is already way ahead in terms of industial production. To give an example, as I mentioned earlier Turkey already produces on its own well more than half of all its armaments while Greece produces almost nothing and has to import from abroad even the bullets for its rifles. And I could give several more examples. Even in terms of public infrastructure Turkey is already ahead of Greece(despite all the EU infrastructure subsidies the latter has been receiving) according to an OECD report which came to my attention about a couple years ago.
As for the second part of your question “why isn’t the Ottoman caliphate still around?”(if islam is good for business) the answer is for basically two reasons:
a. The Caliphate was immensely weakened and discredited by LOSING A WORLD WAR and subsequently signing a peace treaty(Treaty of Sevres) so utterly humiliating that it made Versailles look like a German triumph in comparison. and
b. (which is largely a consequence of “a”) Mustafa Kemal “Ataturk” simply decided to legally abolish it (party in order to make clear that any previous treaty the Caliphate had signed was null and void and thus also wash off the national humiliation). Had it not been officially abolished I don’t believe much would be different. The Europeans clearly didn’t care whether it was a Caliphate or not as long as the new regime aknowledged their claim to Iraq, Syria and Cyprus.
But I could also just as well ask using the same simplistic logic why did the Caliphate conquer half the known world in the first place (if Islam is bad for business)? Now you don’t have to point out to me how fallacious that logic is, since it’s NOT really MY logic.
After all nowhere did I argue in defence of the old caliphate’s fiscal policies, if you remember I started by simply argueing against the notion that modern(increasingly islamized) Istanbul is doing any worse economically than it did during it’s more “kemalist”/secular/less islamic or whatever years.
gravenimage says
My numbers for Turkey’s and Greece’s per capita gdp were from 2018.
Certainly, though, Greece has one of the weakest economies in Europe. No one should be crowing about their economy if is considerably worse than that of Greece.
SAFI says
OK it seems that Greece still has a significantly higher GDP per capita than Turkey, (though that’s probably somewhat misleading given that Greece’s GDP has likely been artificially inflated through cheap loans) but keep in mind that this doesn’t automatically translate to an equivalent advantage in an individual’s purchasing power and life quality given that prices and cost of living are much higher in Greece than in Turkey. In any case I believe that the present Greek economy has been built on much shakier foundations(it’s basically a turism/services economy with very little in terms of industry) than that of Turkey.
Plus the trends are clear Turkey is a rising economic power whereas Greece is in deep economic and demographic decline, in the medium term the balance will shift even further in Turkey’s favor. Think of it this way, while China already has the largest GDP of any country, the USA still maintains a much much larger GDP per capita, but while China’s economy keeps growing at dizzying speeds, that of America remains relatively stagnant.
Anyway my point wasn’t so much to tout Erdogan’s economic achievements(though they’ve been numerous) as to point out how islamization is by no means always incompatible with economic power and that westerners would probably do well to drop this complacent assumption because it won’t help them in the long term. The biggest error which “infidels” have always been making in dealing with Islam is underestimating it.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
Constantinople was regarded, in the ancient world, as the city of cities. Much like New York today, it was referred to obliquely as “The City.” (Imagine, if you will, such a fate befalling New York!) So as the article states, its present name is a corruption of “into The City” or “to The City.” Immediately upon taking The City, the Turks started inventing a Mohammadan origin to the name. This is classic Mohammadan behaviour: obliterate all history and overwriting it with Mohammadan lies. You see it everywhere they conquer. And if we don’t wake up it will be our fate as well. Drive their supporters, enablers and collaborators from influence and power!
gravenimage says
+1
SAFI says
I personally think that “Istanbul” is simply a corruption of “Constantinupolis”. I’ve heard this questionable “to the city” etymology being cited a million times before but I’m not convinced. I really don’t understand why you need some meaningfull etymology behind “Istanbul” given the way in which the Turks corrupted the original greco-roman names of all the cities they conquered from mild corruptions such as Kaisareia to “Kayseri” to much heavier butcherings such as Nikomedia to “Iznik”. The list of such turkish(as well as arab) corruptions of greek/roman placenames is endless. I could easily cite three dozen examples of the top of my head. So if the Arabs could even butcher “evangelion” into “injeel”, I don’t think we should expect Konstantinupolis to avoid instabul-ization.
gravenimage says
“Polis” *does* mean “city”. “Constantinople” means “City of Constantine”.
SAFI says
When did I say that it doesn’t? What I said is that Istanbul probably doesn’t mean “to the city”. More likely it means that “Turks can’t be bothered to pronounce Constantinople correctly”, hence “Istanbul”
Maria W. says
ειςτηνπολη isstinpoli istanbul
SAFI says
Maria W. it doesn’t matter if “ειςτηνπολη” may sound similar to istanbul, I prefer to see a credible source from some true expert in both linguistics and history before I buy that etymology. Until then I’ll keep insisting that, other than a few cases, when the name has been changed completely (for example Dorylaeum changing to Eski-Sehir,) every time when a modern turkish placename bears even a vague resemblance to the older greek/byzantine toponymy it’s safe to assume that it is simply a corruption of the original and there’s no point looking for an etymology behind it. For example I assume you would agree that the name of the city of Bursa(which incidentally was also the capital of the early Ottoman state) is simply a corruption of Prousia and doesn’t come from the latin word “bursa” meaning purse.
gravenimage says
Who is claiming that the name for the Turkish town of Bursa comes from the medieval Latin?
SAFI says
gravenimage no one, clearly. But for some reason people look for a meaningful “explanation” to Istanbul when it’s just as unecessary as it is for Bursa. And they will keep circulating the same, in my opinion bogus etymology for which I haven’t been able to find any real evidence to corroborate this theory so far. Yes “istinpoli” or some variant of that could mean “to the city”(and I don’t completely rule it out) but so does bursa mean “pouch”. Angkyra(Aγκυρα) is anchor in greek and I’ve no idea how you say anchor in turkish but if I took a guess I’d say that Ankara has nothing to do with anchors and everything to do with Angkyra being the earlier name. Yet ironically, despite “Ἄγκυρα” appearing perfectly Greek on its surface, it also has probably nothing to do with anchors and is very likely itself a corruption of the much older Hittite “Ankuwas”. (which needless to say has nothing to do with anchovies)
gravenimage says
No one is claiming that Ankara has anything to do with “anchovies”, either.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
I’m sure it’s possible.
But, I don’t think anyone here disagrees with the fact that Mohammadans are appropriating thieves and that the name of “The City” was not derived from the word “Islam.”
Fake Turks says
No real cleaning,look at the other TUrk Races-they all look Asian,some like Chinese.
Take a look at the so called Turks-nearly nobody looks Asian!Only 2% of the population ruled the whole country for a long time.
A lot of “Turks” are Kurds and many other little ethnics.Someare BLONDE and look 100% European.That must be the robbed children from the Balkan/Slavs.
Erdogan look more like a Georgian.
gravenimage says
Most of today’s Turks are descended from the conquered European Christians.
owensgate says
I believe flights from Athens to Istanbul, at boarding time in the Athens terminal, are announced as to “Κωνσταντινούπολη” to this day. The Turks have it by conquest and the default action of the fearful Europeans not wanting Greece and Turkey facing off across the Bosporus, when the War of Greek independence attempted to throw them back where they came from. Too bad they did the Europeans’ bidding. Now the Europeans have a problem they wish they didn’t have. Tough beans.
gravenimage says
I don’t think that Greece at the time was in any position to conquer all of the Ottoman Empire.
R Russell says
Bul: Ba’al. Same deity with the crescent moon as the horns.
I saw on one website Istanbul means ‘gift of god’.
The god is Ba’al the moon god migrated to Arabia before the time of Mohammed.
I wonder if this is accurate – it sounds as though it might be.
Carolyne says
A Turkey told me it meant “City of Many Muslims.”. But if a Turkey tells you—well, you know.
hyacinthclare says
I’m old enough to remember when that was a funny song… “It’s Istanbul not Constantinople…How did Constantinople get the works? It’s nobody’s business but the Turks.” 1953, I think.
Ilíon says
==”After its fall to the Ottoman forces in 1453, its name was converted to Istanbul.”==
Though, to be clear, the city was still called ‘Constantinople’ until after the Ottoman Sultanate was overthrown following WWI.
Constantine called his new city ‘New Rome’. At some early point, people began to call it ‘Constantine’s City’, which was its name for about 1600 years. Only since about 1930 has ‘Istanbul’ been the city’s name.
ronald says
Does anyone knowwhat happened with western-civilisation.com? Was an anti-islamic blog
gravenimage says
Ronald, I had not heard of this blog. Here’s what it says at that URL:
We’ve happened upon a bit of a problem…
…that we’re working furiously to correct. Things will be up and running again soon. Thanks for your patience.
I hope this is a good sign.
Crusades Were Right says
Istanbul
Islam-bul
I-slem-bul
I sell ’em bull
lol
gravenimage says
THEY MIGHT BE GIANTS “Istanbul (Not Constantinople)”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsQrKZcYtqg
Despite the cartoon’s silliness. it does show Dar-al-Islam as an irrational and dangerous place.
Islamaphone says
OK, I’ll call it Islam-bul … with a barely audible snicker.
Carolyne says
I was in Dolmabaci palace in Istanbul(l.) The tour came to a room with beautiful hand painted fruit on tiles on all four walls. We were told the room was created for a Sultan who had a poor appetite in hopes the fruit would make him hungry. I think it was the same Sultan who one day had his entire harem bound and thrown into the Bosphorus and started over. Whatever. I started laughing and couldn’t stop so I escaped while I could.
Mark Berlinger says
In 334 BC the Macedonian king Alexander conquered Anatolia from the Persians and opened up the peninsula to peaceful Hellenization. Romans conquered the Greek peninsula in 146 BC. The Romans adopted and supported Greek culture. In 133 BC the last Hellenistic Attalid king bequeathed his kingdom and the control of Anatolia to the Roman Republic; but the Greek culture prevailed. Constantine moved the capital from Rome to New Rome at the site of Byzantium in AD 330. The city was renamed after his death to Constantinople.
Turks slaughtered and enslaved thousands while capturing the capital of the Roman Empire in 1453, and turned the most beautiful church in Christendom into a victory mosque. The Istanbul Conquest Society organizes the celebration of Muslim blood lust every May 29th in fully degenerate Islamic fashion.
The author of the linked article C. Tzanos misnames the empire that disappeared on May 29, 1453 as the Byzantine Empire. There never was a Byzantine Empire. This fictitious name was made up by historian H. Wolf in 1555 more than a century after the fall of the Eastern Roman Empire. HuffPost › https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5500136
UNCLE VLADDI says
Filthy liar! It also used to be known as STAMBOUL.
gravenimage says
Also true, This is the term the Orient Express trains used.
Terra Nova says
JW and we have written everything there is about Islam there is to know. We know everything about this horrible conquering death cult, we get all the muslims, and criminals. They don’t keep to our laws, why should we keep to their laws. We need deeds. Our Western governments have betrayed us. We should all kick them out, right now. rubber boats or not. This will become a hell hole..
Drastic attacks need drastic measurements. Stupid governments. And the poor imam failed when he heard his “sentence”. And what does it make a difference!!!! one imam sentenced, before you know it thousands of muslims will protest and we all let them. Governments without spines. We are like sitting ducks waiting for the hell to brake loose. Should have kicked them out years ago. I once still had compassion and empathy, but no more, enough is enough. !!!And how does society think it will end? beside JW, and a few others, what is being done more then dole out the money to the arabs who put it in the pockets of the so called leaders, it does not arrive at the people, it all goes like in Palestine, to Abbas and consorts.
The soft talking of Western “leaders” I heard in the Netherlands the immigration service could not pick the criminals out, it costs to much time and money, they were lost in to much paperwork, and really I don’t care if there was not a Byzantine empire, and what names Constantinople had. We are living now at this moment.
This is really to become something. Even in the heavens they are perplex about our behaviour and our lack of speaking out or lack of protest marches. One always has the RIGHT ‘ to defend themselves and this mumble jumble of the left will get us right down the drain and they still probably live in a dream that they are not to be killed, keep on dreaming !!!I don’t like war, but with these people, no reasoning is possible with people from Islam. And with their idiotic babbling, it is amazing that anyone goes for that. Have we become idiots? I guess so. God helps the ones who help themselves, but the trouble is, that we are not helping ourselves and you can not count on God then.
I will tell you a little story, to show you. I was once in London airport, I lost my pasport there, I had to catch a flight to the USA, but I could not continue as I did not have a pasport, and I went everywhere in the airport, to customs etc, if anybody had found my pasport, but pasport gone. Then I sat down very quietly and explained to God(which He already knew of course) my problem and I waited quietly, and after 10 minutes I guy from the airport came out of thousands of people, held up my pasport and asked me very polite if this was my pasport (this was in the summer tourist time) and it was, and I could still make my next flight, and of course I thanked God for it. Had I not first looked everywhere it would not have happened, but I know how the creator works, and I have had so many cases where it works like that, not always because there are certain things that have to happen in your life contract. I am not trying to write a book as some people try to tell me, I am trying to help this world and its people, as I know not everything, but I know a bit more about the Cosmos
then most people, you don’t have to make war, but if you don’t stand for something, you will fall for everything.
So don’t nag me about this book, I could tell you more, but I don’t, because at the moment even I am so fed up. And people ,.
God is in muslims too This is for the church people.I can not prove it, and neither could Jesus, not that I can put myself on the same level as Jesus, by all means, but I know how it works.
Good luck, and God bless ! And JW, thank you, you were the best and I thank all the people who dared to come out for the truth, and the truth will come out. It always does, but you did your best with some others, who think the same and can think for themselves.This was my last “bookwork” keep to the Christ/creator and the Holy Spirit and never be fearful.We will have a Terra Nova and all old systems will go, not one stone will sty on the other, slowly but very surely, but stay on in the LOVE of the Creator.
Eric Jones says
When will western leaders see Erdogan for what he really is. An Islamist who wants to reestablish the Ottoman Turkish empire. Erdogan was Obama’s favorite foreign leader. Trump should stop thinking that he can negotiate with this man. Putin will soon realize that Erdogan cannot be trusted. Erdogan should be isolated. Turkey should be kicked out of NATO, and never be allowed in the EU. I am surprised that he has not invaded Cyprus already.
Eric
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Great! This is Ilhan Omar’s Muslim Brotherhood terrorist PAL as well..
Acc358 says
Russian forces were just a few miles away from the gates of the Constantinople in 1878 but did not capture the city. What a shame!
terryp says
Oh, how islam is delusional, to say the least; and this man is a moron, which may give the moronic a bad name.