Where did Joseph D. Jones and Edward Schimenti learn about Islam? Has their local mosque been investigated? Why not?
“Two suburban men guilty of providing support to Islamic State,” by Jon Seidel, Chicago Sun-Times, June 20, 2019 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
The FBI descended on their north suburban home in a raid two years ago that began with a “boom,” neighbors said.
Then, the feds unveiled a 77-page criminal complaint in April 2017 that accused Joseph D. Jones and Edward Schimenti of sharing gruesome Islamic State videos online, fantasizing about the ISIS flag “on top of the White House” and, crucially, collecting cellphones they thought could be used as detonators by terrorists overseas.
Now, the 37-year-old Zion men have been found guilty of a conspiracy to provide material support to the Islamic State. A jury convicted them Thursday after more than a day and a half of deliberations, ending their roughly three-week trial.
The jury also found Schimenti guilty of lying to the FBI about a matter involving international terrorism. Both men face significant prison time at sentencing hearings that have not been scheduled.
Schimenti and Jones looked sullen after U.S. District Judge Andrea Wood read the verdict Thursday afternoon. Jones’ lawyer, Patrick Boyle, later told reporters he was disappointed. It’s rare for a terrorism case to go to trial at the Dirksen Federal Courthouse. And in the lead-up to this one, defense attorneys convinced the judge they should be allowed to present an entrapment defense to the jury….
Prosecutors said Jones shared Islamic State videos that depicted the deaths of people who were beheaded by a child soldier, drowned in a cage, and blown up by a rocket-propelled grenade while locked inside a vehicle. Another video demonstrated various ways to stab someone. It was titled, “Some of the Deadly Stabbing Ways: Do not Forget to Poison the Knife.”
Still, their lawyers argued, “this is all protected speech, [no] matter how morally objectionable it may seem. Supporting distasteful, objectionably horrible groups is in and of itself not a crime. In fact, it is protected by the Constitution.”
Schimenti crossed paths with one of the FBI’s confidential informants in November 2016, records show. He was led to believe the man was from Iraq and had a brother in ISIS. Schimenti told him he supported ISIS and, when the man said he wanted to return to the Middle East to fight for the group, Schimenti introduced him to Jones.
Schimenti also met the man at a gym for physical training exercises, records show. There, Schimenti told the man about ISIS videos and how their fighters trained hard, even “jumping through fire.” He told the man, “inshallah [God willing] the brothers will just have me be the one to cut the neck.”
Ultimately, Schimenti and Jones helped that man collect cellphones they thought would be used as detonators, introduced him to an undercover fed they believed would get him overseas, and then drove the man to O’Hare Airport to begin his journey on April 7, 2017.
Schimenti allegedly told the man to “drench that land with they, they blood.”
During the investigation, an undercover fed asked Jones if he ever thought about joining ISIS. Jones replied, “every night and day,” court records show. Schimenti also fantasized about how, under Islamic law, they could put gay people “on top of Sears Tower and we drop you,” according to the feds.
“I want to see blood flowing, whatever way,” Schimenti said….
Alan says
Islam appeals to sick and perverted men. It gives them the promise of being able to rape infidel women and children.
Rufolino says
Islam’s murderous hatred of gay people is being preached in mosques EVERYWHERE. It is a basic tenet of Islamiic ideology.
But nobody really cares about this fact. After all, it’s only gay people. It’s the same reason few protest about the Catholic Church’s rejection of gay people.
They don’t matter. Let them stew. Most respectable people dislike them. Who cares !
Don Ameche says
Illinois seems to have problem here. The muslim convert at O’Hare too.
Gottahavehope says
Ooh illinois has a whole lot of problems!! Can you hear the sewer sucking down every dime they can get !? So don’t worry about it , it’ll be worse than any getto dump country wide!!
FYI says
Here we go again with these converts to the islamic pagan Arab god LAH {“the BEST of deceivers” k3:54}
If you are thinking of converting to islam consider ..
1.It has a DEATH PENALTY for Apostasy
2.The koranic teachings which permit murder k2:191,adultery k4:24 etc are in total violation of
God’s laws{see EXODUS 20}:you won’t get away with it just because you have stupidly joined a religion that says you can!
3.LAH or Al Lah{the god lah) is NOT the Judeo-Christian Biblical God.
LAH is a pagan ARAB god:one proof of this is shown by the fact that in islam the 2 Chief Love commandments are missing {in fact the 2nd one is violated in k5:51 where LAH tells muslims NOT to be friends with Jews or Christians}.Lah’s greatest enemy BTW is a man called MALIK AL AMLAK{“king of kings”}:further evidence as that name only is given to Jesus Christ!
4.if you are a woman and you just love those colorful shiny hijabs..remember that the koran mandates that a woman is INFERIOR to a man and her testimony is HALF that of a man due to what muhammed said was “the DEFICIENCY of a woman’s mind”.You will be wearing the hijab in honor of a god that hates women.
By the koran’s teachings you will ALWAYS be inferior,never equal to a man.
if you think allah is the same as the Biblical God you are mistaken:in fact you now follow a pagan Arab god
the dawa conmen tell people Jesus is in the koran “lo!I am the slave of allah .he hath given me the scripture and appointed me a prophet” koran 19:30.Firstly,it is not Jesus of the Gospel and secondly,it is A TALKING INFANT that allegedly says that{it is clear from the context koran 19:29 “how can we talk to one who is in the cradle”
Indeed:how do we TALK TO A BABY.
5.If you are a black guy thinking islam is for you ..seriously?You need to do some research:muhammed was the owner,buyer and seller of black African slaves{sahih muslim 3901}.In islam satan is depicted as.. a black man and the worst insult anyone could say about about muhammed was {ash shifa} that he was.. a black man.
The dawa conmen:I’ll bet they told you about BILAL,the token black slave of the Arabs.What they won’t tell you is that African slaves were often employed as eunuchs..which means that..ehm..they had their parts chopped off{Arabs love chopping off body parts}
Remember that every time you say “pbuh” about muhammed,you are praising a white Arab supremacist owner,buyer and seller of African slaves{sold at the following exchange rate “and he(muhammed) sold him for TWO of the blacks”sahih muslim 3901}
6 the islamic doctrine of HATE{al walaa wal baraa} coupled with k5:51 the koran’s violation of the 2nd chief commandment makes for an antisocial creed:
“oh ye who believe!Take not the Jews and Christians for friends.They are friends to one another”
k5:51
7 what happens to those converts to the “Religion of Peace”
Jail?Dead?misery….
Only a complete fool converts to such a cult given all the information available about islam:but you must be prepared to reap what you sow if you choose to follow LAH {“the BEST of deceivers”k3:54}!
The sage advice is “to stay away from islam”;do something else with your life and don’t be an idiot.
James says
I find this a good argument or list of reasons to avoid Islam. Only, it seems to me that many people refuse to listen to reason in such cases, and so they would simply refuse to even hear any criticism of Islam. Probably conversion fulfills some inner need, perhaps a way to overcome an inferiority complex and get revenge on others who annoy one.
Angemon says
How about supporting a terrorist group – you know, the offense they were actually charged with? I know freedom of speech is a current hot button issue nowadays, where it’s seemingly applicable only to those of a certain political spectrum, but it’s a smoke screen here – they are in jail because they tried to give material support to a terrorist group. Freedom of speech does not cover breaking the law…
BVC says
What i find funny, angemon, is the fact that there IS no freedom of speech under shariah law. Here are two gentlemen who’s intent is to have islam rule globally and here in America with ISIS’s flag atop the white house. Ironically, as a defense, they cite the same constitution that they so avidly want to take away from us and say tge exchange of these videos is allowable because they are exercising their right to freedom of speech.
Sooooo happy the jury saw through their lies. They should, upon their release, have their citizenship granted and deported to the middle east. That IS their own wish, correct? I bet in no time they will regret their choices and be pleading to come back stateside.
Angemon says
Ironic indeed.
gravenimage says
So true, BVC. There is no freedom of speech under Islam.
Shirley Ann says
Mr. Allah is scraping the Bottom of the Illinois Barrel today, recruiting Guys, who are Morons. The Illinois Penal Institutions are filled with these Morons, but they will be Groomed by the Prison Imams, who will turn out Craftier Dirt-Bags, who may be Our Next Terrorists!
Donovan Nuera says
Ironic that they lived in a suburb called ‘Zion’! Wouldn’t that then make “Zionists”. They should cut their OWN necks !!! What a bunch of maroons!
gravenimage says
Grimly hilarious!
No Muzzies Here says
It’s very difficult to understand how anyone in 2019 can choose to adopt a world view that was established in the 7th century. It is a world view that allows the practice of murder, rape, slavery and hatred for non-believers.
Is conversion done out of love for that world view, or out of a profound self-loathing, an overwhelming anger, and a desire to be “allowed” to give vent to reptilian brain functions, unhindered by higher-order functions such as conscience, emotions, and/or reasoning? Where does the desire come from to return to a world of pre-civilization savagery? Were they made fun of as a child? Were their teeth crooked?
In a world regulated by sanity, these conversions would be taken as a danger signal, and those individuals monitored closely.
James Lincoln says
No Muzzies Here says,
“… these conversions would be taken as a danger signal, and those individuals monitored closely.”
100% correct.
Battle says
Free Zion, Illinois
Don Ameche says
Is anyone else having a problem receiving Jihad Watch in their Email today ?
Angemon says
Not here.
Don Ameche says
Thanks.
gravenimage says
Don, you can contact Marc Louis at the “Contact Us” box (it is the second one down once you click on it) if you are having technical problems.
tgusa says
The loose and unsustainable confederation of diametrically opposed democrat sub groups is beginning to fray. This is proceeding exactly as predicted and it will only get worse. Bad times ahead for the crats as they don’t have the where with all to put an end to it. Everyone else should stay far far away.
gravenimage says
Illinois: Men convert to Islam, plot jihad mass murder, talk of dropping gays from Sears Tower
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This is how Muslims think. Most of us look at the Sears Tower and consider it an impressive feat of engineering; Muslims look at it and think it is a good place to throw people to their deaths. *Ugh*.
Rhonda says
DEPORT THEM ALL…
AntiIslamicman says
Islam gives power to sick evil people that want to kill rape and commit mass murder. Anyone really believe this is from the true god? Time to deport all Muslims as Islam is not compatible with any society. Islam is a backwards barbaric ideology from the Stone Age invented by a demon possessed false prophet evil child raping monster.