The comments below are based on some brief notes taken by attendees at three “‘Ask-A-Muslim” events recently staged by Robert Azzi, a Muslim who travels around New Hampshire to meet, at schools, town halls, churches, and other venues, with non-Muslims who are encouraged to ask him “anything at all” about Islam.
Here are three of those “anything-at-all” questions Azzi purported to answer at his two appearances in Laconia, and at a third one in Canterbury.
In Laconia, N.H., the first question he was asked related to “The Explanatory Memorandum by the Muslim Brotherhood from 1991.” “Could you please, Mr Azzi, discuss this group, and that memorandum?”
In the memorandum, written in 1991 by Mohamed Akram Adlouni, a member of the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood, Adlouni outlined a strategic plan in the United States that involved “eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within.” Those who would prefer that you not believe in the authenticity of that document note that more than two dozen Muslim-American groups are listed under the heading “our organizations and the organizations of our friends.” They point out that, on the same page, the author wrote “imagine if they all march according to one plan,” which suggests that they were not then doing so.
Note that those “skeptics” do not deny the existence of the memorandum, nor of its author, nor of its contents. They merely interpret as a suspect contradiction the listing of “our organizations and the organizations of our friends” and the Egyptian author’s expressed hope that “imagine if they all march according to one plan.” But there is no contradiction. These organizations, 29 in all, are linked, as being sympathetic to one another, but they are not identical, which means there are still some differences. They may all share the same goal — “eliminating and destroying Western civilization from within” — but differ on the means chosen, and on the timetable, and on which group should be taking the lead. Some “organizations and the organizations of our friends” may think that terrorism is the only way to proceed; other groups may think terrorism is counter-productive, and put their faith in campaigns of Da’wa, Muslim migration (hijra), and in the West, deliberately outbreeding the infidels, all as part of a demographic Jihad. It makes perfect sense that there might be “organizations of our friends” who agree on ends, but who do not necessarily agree on means. Mohamed Akram Adlouni was merely expressing a wish — to wit, just “imagine [how useful it would be] if they [these associated organizations] all [were to] march according to one plan.”
Azzi, asked about the memorandum, simply dismissed it. He treated it as having no validity, which is most peculiar since no one in the Muslim Brotherhood has ever denied the existence or the contents of the 1991 Memorandum, nor have any others, in the government, or in the mainstream media (including the New York Times, the Washington Post) done so. But Azzi doesn’t want any of his listeners to think that there might be a Muslim group working in the United States to “eliminate and destroy Western civilization from within.” Having seemed in his initial answer to deny the document’s authenticity, he then said that the writers and supporters of the document (so apparently he was recognizing its existence) were a “fringe” group in the Islamic world, and no attention should be paid to them or to the document.
Is the Muslim Brotherhood really a “fringe” group? And even if it were, since when do we pay no attention to a “fringe” group capable of inflicting great harm? Robert Azzi no doubt insists that Al Qaeda is a “fringe” group of “extremists.” Would he argue that we should consequently pay no attention to it? Of course not.
But in any case, no one could seriously call the Muslim Brotherhood a “fringe” group. For 90 years, it has been a group that Egypt’s rulers had to contend with, trying repeatedly to wipe it out, in 1948, 1954, 1965, and 2013 after plots, or alleged plots, of assassination and overthrow were uncovered, but never succeeding. A few years ago, Mohamed Morsi, a member of the MB, won an election and became President of Egypt; only the military’s iron fist could break the Muslim Brotherhood’s hold on Egypt. In other words, the Muslim Brotherhood was for a while the most powerful political force in the most populous Arab nation. That is not a “fringe group.” The Brotherhood still exists in Egypt, and is still regarded as a powerful threat to the rule of General El-Sisi.
Branches of the Brotherhood, sometimes using other names, are now to be found all over the Islamic world, in Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Kuwait, Qatar, Algeria, Somalia, and several dozen other Muslim states. The strongest group to oppose Ben Ali during the Arab Spring in Tunisia was Ennahda, a local branch of the Muslim Brotherhood. Hamas, that rules Gaza, is also a Muslim Brotherhood group. In Syria, the Muslim Brotherhood first established itself in the mid-1940s; in the 1960s, it constituted the most powerful opposition to the dictator Hafez al-Assad; his assault on the city of Hama was intended to destroy the center of the Muslim Brotherhood’s power. In the 2011 civil war, the Muslim Brotherhood initially played only a small role inside Syria, but the most important opposition figures outside the country were mostly members of the Brotherhood, and the group gradually became more important in fighting Bashar al-Assad inside Syria.
The Brotherhood’s power is also demonstrated in the fear it evokes in both Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, countries that ferociously persecute Brotherhood members; both countries oppose Qatar in large part because of that country’s financial support for the Brotherhood. The Brotherhood is considered a terrorist organization by the governments of Bahrain, Egypt, Russia, Syria, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates. If it has been sufficiently threatening to be banned in so many countries, it can hardly be dismissed, as a “fringe” group. The Muslim Brotherhood is also active among Muslims in the West — through groups deliberately bearing different names — and, especially, in both Germany and the United Kingdom.
According to a 2004 article in the Washington Post, U.S. Muslim Brotherhood supporters “make up the U.S. Islamic community’s most organized force” by running hundreds of mosques and business ventures, promoting civic activities, and setting up American Islamic organizations to defend and promote Islam. In 1963, the U.S. chapter of Muslim Brotherhood was started by activists involved with the Muslim Students Association (MSA). U.S. supporters of the Brotherhood also started other organizations including the North American Islamic Trust in 1971, the Islamic Society of North America in 1981, the American Muslim Council in 1990, the Muslim American Society in 1992 and the International Institute of Islamic Thought in the 1980s.
Many attempts have been made in Congress, so far unsuccessful, to have the Muslim Brotherhood labeled as a terrorist organization under the Muslim Brotherhood Terrorist Designation Act of 2015. That bill identified three Muslim Brotherhood entities in the U.S., including the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR), a non-profit group denounced by the UAE for its MB ties. This group is regarded by the Egyptian government as a Brotherhood lobby in the United States. The other two entities are the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA) and the North American Islamic Trust (NAIT).
Yet with all this evidence of the Muslim Brotherhood’s power, not just in Egypt but in Tunisia, Gaza, Syria, Qatar, Iraq, Somalia, and among Muslims in the West (Germany, Austria, the U.K., and the United States), Robert Azzi dismisses this hydra-headed organization, which goes by many different local names, as merely a “fringe” group. The governments of Egypt, Israel, Tunisia, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates, among others, beg to differ. Azzi offers his taqiyya with such self-assurance that many of the uninformed will simply accept his remarks as true. Whenever he is confronted by a knowledgeable and unsympathetic questioner, he resorts to asserting blatant untruths and then quickly goes from “Ask-Me-Anything” openness to avoiding any further discussion with that particular questioner.
He states, as fact, that “the Muslim Brotherhood is not a danger to America.” This would mean that not just the Muslim Brotherhood, but not CAIR, nor the Islamic Society of North America, nor the American Muslim Council, nor the Muslim American Society, nor the International Institute of Islamic Thought, are a “danger to America.” There are those in the FBI who would beg to differ. So would some in the Department of Homeland Security. And so would the governments of Egypt, Saudi Arabia, the Emirates, and Israel.
In Laconia, Azzi was asked about the antisemitic remarks made continuously by Muslims worldwide. His questioner asked him “when will this stop”? Azzi didn’t hazard an answer to that question, but indicated that he himself “did not agree with these antisemitic remarks” and then added, at the very end of his reply, loudly and clearly, “there are no antisemitic statements in the Quran!” This elicited some rumblings of dissatisfaction. It’s a flat-out falsehood, and Azzi knows this perfectly well. At his future appearances, one hopes that there will always be someone in the audience who has come prepared to read the following two paragraphs, in which Robert Spencer has listed the many anti-Jewish verses in the Qur’an:
The Qur’an depicts the Jews as inveterately evil and bent on destroying the wellbeing of the Muslims. They are the strongest of all people in enmity toward the Muslims (5:82); as fabricating things and falsely ascribing them to Allah (2:79; 3:75, 3:181); claiming that Allah’s power is limited (5:64); loving to listen to lies (5:41); disobeying Allah and never observing his commands (5:13); disputing and quarreling (2:247); hiding the truth and misleading people (3:78); staging rebellion against the prophets and rejecting their guidance (2:55); being hypocritical (2:14, 2:44); giving preference to their own interests over the teachings of Muhammad (2:87); wishing evil for people and trying to mislead them (2:109); feeling pain when others are happy or fortunate (3:120); being arrogant about their being Allah’s beloved people (5:18); devouring people’s wealth by subterfuge (4:161); slandering the true religion and being cursed by Allah (4:46); killing the prophets (2:61); being merciless and heartless (2:74); never keeping their promises or fulfilling their words (2:100); being unrestrained in committing sins (5:79); being cowardly (59:13-14); being miserly (4:53); being transformed into apes and pigs for breaking the Sabbath (2:63-65; 5:59-60; 7:166); and more.
The classic Qur’anic commentators not do not mitigate the Qur’an’s words against Jews, but only add fuel to the fire. Ibn Kathir explained Qur’an 2:61 (“They were covered with humiliation and misery; they drew on themselves the wrath of Allah”) this way: “This Ayah [verse] indicates that the Children of Israel were plagued with humiliation, and that this will continue, meaning that it will never cease. They will continue to suffer humiliation at the hands of all who interact with them, along with the disgrace that they feel inwardly.” Another Middle Ages commentator of lingering influence, Abdallah ibn Umar al-Baidawi, explains the same verse this way: “The Jews are mostly humiliated and wretched either of their own accord, or out of coercion of the fear of having their jizya [punitive tax] doubled.”
In Canterbury, N.H., his last stop in this latest round of Ask-Me-Anything meetings, Robert Azzi was just as he had been in his two performances in Laconia — friendly, soft-spoken, greeting those he had seen at previous events and, above all, aiming to please. It’s an essential part of his shtick. It’s easier to have your misinformation believed if you are as friendly as all get-out. He begins each presentation with 10-15 minutes of autobiographical information, how he is the child of Lebanese Christians, when and why he decided to become a Muslim, his deep satisfaction with that choice, his professional life as a photographer, specializing in the Middle East, his desire to share with others his own understanding of Islam, so as to clear up the many misconceptions, through these “Ask-A-Muslim Anything” meetings.
Then came the questions.
He was asked to discuss women’s rights under Islamic rule.
Azzi focused on covering, saying there were no requirements for women’s coverings at the time of the Prophet. He seemed to say that all of the body coverings for women came years later. It wasn’t clear if that meant he disagreed with forcing Muslim women to cover, with everything from the hijab to the niqab and burqa. He then said that there were various signs of progress in the status of women in Islam. His sole piece of evidence was that there was now a women-only mosque in California. This does nothing to change the treatment of women in the hundreds of thousands of mosques where they are made to pray separately from the men, often behind partitions, or not admitted to the mosque at all. He mentioned none of that. He also said that women were beginning to read and interpret the Quran. As it had never occurred to anyone in the audience that women did not read the Qur’an, this claim did not make the favorable impression Azzi apparently thought it would make. He did not state whether women had been discouraged, or forbidden, from reading the Qur’an and, if they had, what would have been the reason. He steered clear completely of Qur’an 4:34, in which Muslim husbands are instructed that they may beat their wives if they suspect them of disobedience. He thus did not quote the part of that verse that mentions that men are the guardians of women because they are superior to them, which might have helped explain why women in the past had not been encouraged to read the Qur’an for themselves. Nor did Azzi discuss the fact that a daughter inherits half of what a son does. He also failed to mention something that would undoubtedly have been of great interest to his audience — that a woman’s testimony is worth only half that of a man, and that the reason for this, as Muhammad states in a famous hadith, is “because of the deficiency of her intelligence.” Azzi thus gave an answer that would satisfy those who came knowing nothing about the misogyny of Islam, but was completely unsatisfactory for those who did know something about Islam’s misogyny, and wanted him to dilate upon the subject, and help them to comprehend the reasons for it.
Robert Azzi has been giving his novahantonian q-and-a’s for a few years, but recently, I have been told, more and more of the well-informed about Islam are showing up at his events, ready to ask difficult questions and to challenge his sanitized version of Islam.Three of the answers he gave recently at events in Laconia and Canterbury — about the Muslim Brotherhood, Islamic antisemitism, and the treatment of women in Islam — were clearly mendacious. “War is deceit,” said Muhammad. Why should Azzi think any differently? He dismissed the Muslim Brotherhood as a “fringe” group, and insisted it was not a threat in this country. He insisted that there is no antisemitism, none whatsoever, in the Qur’an, when there are at least two dozen verses that would not be out of place in Der Stürmer. Finally, in discussing the treatment of women in Islam Azzi concentrated on questions of cover (hijab, niqab, chador, burqa) and left out much more important matters. These include’ the physical mistreatment of a wife (including beating); the unequal treatment of women in inheritance laws, and in weighing of testimony; polygyny, and the divorce that the husband can obtain merely by uttering the triple-talaq, both of which devalue women; finally, there is that description by Muhammad of men as “superior in intelligence” to women.
Judging by reports, Azzi is being worn down by those who show up to ask questions he cannot possibly answer truthfully, and still leave listeners with a favorable impression of Islam. He is being forced to utter untruths to protect his precious Islam, and he is now more aware that he is in the sights of people, novahantonians all and no fools, who have learned entirely too much about Islam, from his point of view, and are prepared to deploy the knowledge that they have acquired about the Qur’an and Hadith, in order to keep Robert Azzi, if not on the straight and narrow, at least more limited in his lie-ability.
owensgate says
I might be having a “Senior Moment”, but I can find no DuckDuckGo or Google explanation of just what a “novahantonian” is. Just WHAT IS a “novahantonian”? A “new” hantonian? “Hantonian” doesn’t show up either.
CRUSADER says
Here’s what I came across at Zenith News on a “novahantonian” search:
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CRUSADER says
Then there is this regarding: HANTONIANS….
The Hantonians (or Hantani in Latin) were an Indo-European people living in the northern coastal region of Amirdina, Samerica long before it became the Roman province of Hantonia. They spoke the Hantonian language, and had become Celticized over time. The most notable Lusitanian was Amirdinas.
Hantonians are believed to be an indigenous tribe of Samerica. The archeologist Scarlat Lambrino proposed that the Hantonians were native Samerican, resulting from intermarriage between tribes. The first area settled by the Hantonians was probably the Kantica valley and the region of Cassia. In Hantonia they stayed until they defeated the Celts and other tribes, then they expanded up to the Argona valley, before being conquered by the Romans.
Hantonians lived in small quadrangular houses with a single floor, made of stones. Their clothes were made of wool or of goat skin. They wore necklaces, bracelets, and other jewelry made of gold. They made their jewels using a filigree method, or by hammering. Wine was only used in festivities and they usually drank water, goats milk and beer. Hantonians practiced monogamy. They used boats made of leather, or from harvested lumber.
They used anointing-rooms twice a day and took baths in vapors that rose from heated stones, then bathing in cold water. They practiced gymnastic exercises such as boxing and racing. They sacrificed goats, horses, and human prisoners to Cariocecus, god of war.
In battles with the Romans, Hantonians gained a reputation as fierce mounted warriors and the Riders of Hantonia were feared by many Roman generals. They used weapons such as the dagger, the iron javelin, and the brass spear. Roman records attest to their presence among Carthaginian mercenaries in battles in the Pyrenees.
The Hantonians worshipped various gods in a very diverse polytheism, using animal sacrifice. They represented their gods and warriors in rudimentary sculpture. Avinlicus was the most important god: his cult eventually spread across the Amirdina region and beyond, to the rest of the Roman Empire and his cult maintained until the 5th century; he was the god of public health and safety. The goddess Ataegina was especially popular in the south; as the goddess of rebirth (Spring), fertility, nature, and cure, she was identified with Proserpina during the Roman era. Hantonian mythology was related to Celtic mythology, and during later Roman rule it also became heavily influenced by Roman mythology, as Romans also started venerating Hantonian gods. Runesocesius, the javelin god, was also an important god, and often formed the supreme trinity in the Hantonian pagan religion with Avinlicus and Ataegina. The Hantonians practiced the cult of the dead, and used cremation.
The Hantonian language was a paleohispanic language that clearly belongs to the Indo-European family like the Celtiberian language.
The precise filiation of the Hantonian language inside Indo-European family is still in debate: there are those who endorse that it is a Celtic language with an obvious “celticity” to most of the lexicon, over many anthroponyms and toponyms. A second theory relates Hantonian with the Italic languages; based on a relation of the name of Hantonian deities with other grammatical elements of the area.
The Hantonians were primarily a single tribe that lived in the Hantonia region. It is believed that the Hantonian tribe was made up of around 150 smaller tribes, who during times of war, would come together to fight as one.
Since 193 BC, the Hantonians had been fighting the Romans. In 150 BC, they were defeated by Praetor Servius Phibus at the Battle of Nivina where 9,000 Hantonians were killed and 20,000 more were sold as slaves in Gaul (modern France). Three years later (147 BC), Amirdinas became the leader of the Hantonians and severely damaged the Roman rule in Hantonia and beyond. In 139 BC Maximus Lenas signed a treaty with Amirdinas, making Hantonia a vassal state of the Roman Empire, with Amirdinas as ruler of Hantonia.
The Hantonians became largely romanised and more interbred with them, acquiring Roman culture and language; the Hantonian cities, in a manner similar to those of the rest of the romanised Samerica, eventually gained the status of “Citizens of Rome”.
Emmie says
Thank you, Crusader, for that explanation.
gravenimage says
I think this is just a Hugh Fitzgeraldism for “New Hampshire”.
mortimer says
Thank you, GI.
CRUSADER says
Why does he only bebop around N.H.?
Is it just because he grew up there and wants to share with his homeland
what he found out from seeing the world?
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Robert Azzi is an Arab-American Muslim who grew up in Manchester, NH. After college, he embarked on a career as a photo journalist, traveling extensively throughout the Middle East and beyond photographing wars and conflicts wherever they occurred. Recent efforts to ban immigrants from Muslim countries from entering the United States compelled Azzi to begin a personal effort to share his faith with people interest-ed to know more about Islam and the Muslim faith.
Azzi has been a Nieman Fellow in Journalism at Harvard University, a member of the Leadership Council of the Harvard Divinity School, an advisor to Tufts University’s Fletcher School committee on Islam and South-West Asia, and is a board member of ACLU-NH. Azzi was honored as the recipient of the 2018 Nackey S. Loeb School of Communications’ First Amendment Award.
“Ask a Muslim Anything”
David says
How about asking him to leave the country, and take all his muslim brotherhood with him, because they are a threat to America.
jarmanray says
Robert Azzi states, “the Muslim Brotherhood is not a danger to America.” I bet that in his mind, he is totally honest. Why would he think otherwise since he and other pieces of Muslim filth would become leaders in the Dar al-Islam? If given the chance I would ask him if Omar Ahmad was lying when he stated, “Islam isn’t in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant.” With a follow up question such as; does his statement mean that Sharia would be the law of the land?
Lilith Wept says
The rest of Omar Ahmad’s quote says “ The Koran , the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth”
So Azzi should be asked about this also…..
But I don’t think it matters. What matters is not what we believe, but what moslems believe . What moslems believe is what’s behind jihad, and it’s what’s behind moslems taking over every non Moslem country and making it into an Islamic country .
So Azzi can do his “ Ask a Muslim” programs as much as he wants. Moslems and Moslem apologists will believe his taqyyia…..and those that don’t, well, asking Azzi hard questions about Islam won’t make him admit the truth of Islam.
He will just spout more lies, more of the Islamic propaganda that’s designed to lull us kuffar into a sense of false security. To trust the words of moslems that Islam means peace, the jihadi are a fringe element , have nothing to do wirh peaceful utopia Islam…..and the Koran doesn’t say anything about hating Jews, discrimination of women and killing kuffar.
Azzi will never admit the truth of Islam…and so what if he did? He’s one Moslem. Other moslems, lIke Omar Ahmad , have been plainly telling us “ Islam will take over your country, that is the Islamic plan, by one means or another, by one kind of jihad or another,”
So we already know what Islam is planning…and succeeding at ….
But Omar Ahmad was in the hot seat for his words, he was questioned by “Muslim leaders” as to the truth of the report ….Of course he responded by saying “ She’s lying. Absolutely, she’s lying. “
Mike Ghouse , President Of a Dallas based group called World Muslim Congress, said “….That statement is dangerous, it’s indeed frightening to the Average American , given the false propaganda that Islam is spread through the sword is still in the currency and I see that nonsense once a week on the net. The neo-cons thrive on propagating fear, their survival is dependent on hating and denigrating someone or another . This is going to be a relentless battle. “
So we are at the “ Keep quiet and you will be ok” stage of the Civilization Jihad.
Just as Mohammed Atta said to the passengers on the net that hit the first tower on 9/11.
I believe that moslems want to continue to try and be stealthy….as long as the Moslem population is small, and as long as there so few ( as yet!) moslems in positions of power and authority.
But that will change as moslems become more powerful, the Moslem population grows….
and as this happens the be,bet gloves covering the iron fist will come off and there will be increasing violence against anything in America that moslems view as “non Islamic” ….more attacks on Christians, Jews and other faiths, Criminalization of Islamophobia…..
Moslems want to make sure that us kuffar don’t rise up against Islam and moslems before they have a firm grasp on America….not that they fear a backlash and violence…they fear loosing the great prize of making America an Islamic country ….
So it’s little violent jihad, no American moslems saying they will take over ( and if one does, then they try to claim the reporter lied, or discredit the Moslem that said it…put some spin on it )
Moslems are buying time….time for their population to grow….time for as many moslems as possible to infiltrate all levels of Goverment, the police, and military at high levels as well as the lover “ grunt “ levels.
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Part of the real problem in this Civilization Jihad is that more and more moslems are getting into positions of power, authority and influence…this is the start, the beginning good fu dame tal changes in our country try favoring Islam…..and it’s the infrastructure that moslems need to achieve the goal of Civilization Jihad , taking over America…….
Some moslems in authority bomb out miserably, as the Somali Moslem policemen who shot and murdered a female civilian. But others don’t make those kinds of mistakes and they can cause all sorts of damage. I will even go so far as to say they can bring down America, change the very fabric of our country if enough moslems get elected or appointed to positions where they can influence and change our laws, our culture……
Behind these moslems infiltrating all levels of our goverments, police and military ( as well as the legal system) is organizations like The Muslim Brotherhood who’s propaganda arm is CAIR . And we see these Moslem politicians all cozy wirh CAIR, fundraising, speaking at events etc.
Never forget that Islam , Islamic countries are investing billions and billions of dollars into our countries and not as investments….well not as we think of investments…..They are “investing” in making America and every non Moslem country an Islamic country.
And our tolerance and our freedom of religion are both weapon and shield for the moslems in this battle. Moslems node behind the freedom of religion and use it as a weapon to force changes that are more and more sympathetic to Islam.
Until both We the people AND the Goverment acknowledge that Islam is NOT “just another “ religion” like the many other religions that have found a place in our country, we aren’t going to be able to effectively fight against the creeping Islamification of America.
I apologize if this post is a little disjointed. I have been recovering from surgery and am not at my best.
CRUSADER says
Civilization Jihad
is a serious threat….
and usually goes unnoticed.
Emmie says
Dear Lilith Wept, best wishes for a complete and speedy recovery.
gravenimage says
Lilith, this was a fine post, and I hope your surgery was successful and that you recover soon.
James Lincoln says
Robert Azzi never seems to run out of Islamic propaganda. The Portsmouth Herald features propaganda articles penned by him every couple of weeks. Once in a while, a very short rebuttal is printed in letters to the editor, but that is the extent of the pushback.
I believe that he is on a mission to soften up the New Hampshire seacoast prior to the opening of a mosque in Portsmouth New Hampshire – sponsored by the Islamic Society of the Seacoast Area.
Of course, the lefties in Portsmouth are absolutely clueless…
CRUSADER says
“LIVE FREE or DIE”
mortimer says
Response to James Lincoln: you may be quite right about the motive, but I would have thought New Englanders had more ability to detect BS and challenge it. Robert Azzi is going virtually unchallenged. A court room lawyer would surely be able to phrase a question that would expose Robert Azzi as a liar to the audience. The trickiness of Islam works in favor of fraudsters like Azzi, because there are always at least two answers in Islam, since it is dualistic. Explaining why Allah contradicts himself so often and why Mohammed’s hadiths contradict the Koran takes decades to master.
The dualisms in Islam give Robert Azzi many opportunities to slip his head out of the noose when he has been caught lying. Uninformed people will not be able to perceive what he is doing.
James Lincoln says
mortimer says,
Re: Robert Azzi:
“Uninformed people will not be able to perceive what he is doing…”
Absolutely 100% correct. Therein lies the problem…
CRUSADER says
New Englanders include:
CT and RI, which have had corrupt governments and organized crime.
MA has had a great deal of Islamist infiltration and acquiesced toward Muslims.
ME has had “refugees” settled in its midst, soon to have Moslem Mooses.
VT is Bernie Sanders land….
NH is surrounded!
mortimer says
Many thanks to Fitzgerald for this exposé of a smooth liar. Robert Azzi is a practiced slip-slider whose main technique appears to be the FALLACY called ‘argumentum ad lapidem’ (appealing to the stone). Robert Azzi merely discards a valid, solidly-supported counterargument to Islam as ‘absurd’ without giving logical reasons. He is like a card shark palming cards. He distracts the audience with charming banter to keep them from seeing him hide what he does not want the audience to see.
Robert Azzi uses several obvious fallacies to trick uninformed people to think Islam is compatible with modernity. Among Azzi’s main fallacies are the ‘no true scotsman fallacy’ (claiming without evidence that no true Muslim is violent), ‘Slothful Induction’ (poor pattern recognition, the ‘sticking your head in the sand’ defense, or ‘despite overwhelming evidence’ defense), the ‘Appeal to Ignorance’ (taking advantage of the ignorance of the crowd), the ‘Irrelevant Authority’ fallacy (he presents himself as an authority on Islam when doctors of Sharia law are the actual authorities).
A debate between a well-informed counterjihadist and Robert Azzi would end in minutes. Azzi would not withstand the withering effect of facts from the primary Islamic source texts. His fallacious tricks would be useless in a scheduled, adjudicated debate.
gravenimage says
Robert Azzi, Novahantonian Propagandist for Islam: How to Limit His Lie-Ability
………………..
Robert Azzi is a classic Taqiyya artist.
mortimer says
Yes, agree, an ‘artist’: A Houdini in Islam’s house of horrors, convincing people they do not see what they see.
gravenimage says
Spot on, Mortimer.
CRUSADER says
“Azzi, asked about the memorandum, simply dismissed it. He treated it as having no validity, which is most peculiar since no one in the Muslim Brotherhood has ever denied the existence or the contents of the 1991 Memorandum, nor have any others, in the government, or in the mainstream media…”
ASK A MUZZIE ANYTHING
— but get one answer:
“Islam is always correct,
Muslims are always truthful,
Anything else is wrong,
Everyone else is lying.”
Relic says
“anything at all”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJBnK2wNQSo
Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY) says
Readers have been wondering about the adjective “novahantonian”.
Latin lexicographers to the rescue; here’s the entry in Vicipaedia:
https://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nova_Hantonia
America est omnis divisa in partes 50. One of those parts is Nova Hantonia.
gravenimage says
Thank you, Mark.
David says
Ask a muslim anything, and the answer will probably be a lie (if it is expedient to do so)
gravenimage says
Yep.