Openly gay “Bishop of Stockholm Eva Brunne revealed that she not only has a distaste for right-wing Christians, but claims to have more in common with Muslims.”
Brunne is so nearsighted and egocentric that she cannot see beyond the end of her own nose. She is only capable of judging others and holding a world view in accordance with whatever negative experience she may have had with “right-wing Christians” in her own personal life; and she condemns others in the public square based on this experience as a bishop–a position that she is unfit for.
Brunne needs a lesson in Islamic doctrine to establish how much more she has in common with Muslims than “right wing Christians”. She can start by visiting Iran, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Pakistan, Somalia, Afghanistan (uncovered), declare her lesbianism and speak her mind openly there. She’ll find out rather speedily about the rights of women and gays in Islam. Afterward, she can then compare it to “right wing Christians”. Unfortunately, she’d be murdered under the sharia and so, she will not be able to publicly correct her absurd commentary against “right-wing Christians”.
She also goes on to lambaste Christians for historic wrongs while ignoring the 1400 year history of jihad; the current Christian and minority persecution, murder of gays and apostates and black slavery in Algeria, Sudan, and Mauritania.
The mere fact that wretched ‘leaders’ like Brunne exist in the Church is a contributing factor to the ‘tolerance’ of Islamization of the West.
“Bishop Has More in Common with Muslims than Right-Wing Christians”, by Chris Tomlinson, Breitbart, June 5, 2019:
Controversial Bishop of Stockholm Eva Brunne revealed that she not only has a distaste for right-wing Christians, but claims to have more in common with Muslims.
The Church of Sweden bishop made her comments this week on the People and Faith programme broadcast on Sveriges Radio, stating that she believes that the subject of Christian values has been largely taken over by right-wing populists.“We all have to think about which people we are and who we are living with. And in fact, we all have the same value. Although we do not speak the same language or pray to God in the same way or look the same, we have the same value, and we shall live in a country together and have the same rights,” she said, in comments reported by Nyheter Idag.
“I say that I sometimes have more in common with Muslims, those I meet, than with the right-wing Christians,” she said and went on to add that Christians have their own extremists, mentioning the Crusades and the witch burnings that took place hundreds of years ago.“We hear a lot about terrorism and think that it is Muslims who practice this, which it is, but it is nevertheless a small, small minority of all the Muslims we know,” she added.
The first openly lesbian bishop in Sweden, Brunne has caused controversy in the past when she allocated Muslim prayer spaces in Swedish churches in 2015, demanding that crosses and other Christian symbols be removed as well. Brunne defended her decision comparing the spaces to multi-faith prayer rooms found in airports or hospitals.
The Stockholm bishop is not the only member of the church of Sweden to have expressed a fondness for Islam. Last year, Muslims in the city of Växjö lobbied the local government to allow for the public broadcast of the Islamic call to prayer.While many rejected the idea, Bishop Fredrik Modeus announced his support for it saying: “I welcome the application and look forward to hearing both church bells and prayer announcements in our city.”….
Buraq says
She sounds like a real dykehead! Clown!
Victoria says
Of coarse she realizes if she lived in a Muslim country she would be dropped from a tall building for being gay. I can”t fathom the stupidity and ignorance of the leaders in Sweden.
Howard Deaniac says
and being christian, not wearing a Burqua, etc etc. Hell she’d be stoned for daring to speak her feeble
mind.
It constantly amazes me
why anyone on the so called
“progressive” left, they of “women’s rights, LGBTQRSTUVWXYZ rights, anti- religion etc etc would align themselves with what has to be the most intolerant of all religions, and most fanatical about their religion…..
until one realizes they are both after the same thing – the destruction of the judaeo-christian West. Any enemy of
my enemy is a friend……
..too bad they are too stupid to realize, after they have helped the Muslims take over the west (without firing a shot, using our tolerance and freedoms as their weapons) Morons like her will be the first ones executes by the Muslims…
mortimer says
Another brilliant and observant article by Christine Douglass-Williams. As CDW says, Eva Brunne is obviously ‘unfit for the position’ of a leader in the Church of Sweden.
The bishop is supposed to be the exemplar of wholesome doctrine. Eva Brunne is a heretic if she thinks Islam is similar to Christianity. Brunne should be tried by ecclesiastical court and have her license removed. She is a heretic.
Demsci says
Well said! I laughed about the “alfabet-rights” group beginning with LGBT.
You hit the nail on the head with this attitude of “the enemy of the enemy is my friend”.
And you emphasize how ignorant or in denial SOME gay (and female) clerics, politicians, citizens can be about real Islamic teachings, in print, in their most sacred texts, spoken by their most revered scholars.
She will probably be one of those who dismiss violent aggressive Islam texts with “the Bible has them too, you know”. But of course Christians view the Old Testament as only DEScriptive and no longer PREscriptive.
But she should ask Muslims whether or not THEY consider their sacred texts only DEScriptive. I/ we suspect that so many Muslims will insist that they must be taken as PREScriptive. But since she does not even realize this and does not even ask this to the no doubt very nice Muslims she meets, she now upholds, at least in part, an idiotic unnatural alliance. (And by the way, has this been reciprocated by Islamic leaders, I mean them being closer to her than to extremist Christians?)
The other side, that is we, democratic people, conservatives, should remind her, that if she at least sees one evil (us) OK,
but for many non-Muslims Islam is also an evil,
and it’s good to remember that it is better to fight the bigger of 2 evils.
The Non-Muslims (democratics) have never harmed her, will defend her against the Muslims (authoritarians), but the Muslims won’t defend her from the “tiny minority of extremist Muslims”. She simply is NOT in the Muslim camp. And the point is that it is dangerous to be not in either of those 2 camps, being a “lone wolf”. Divided we fall, united we stand.
Kilauea says
How could any church leadership allow this woman to become ordained, much less be a Bishop? People like her are the reason the church in Sweden is so compromised.
christianblood says
Deport this bitch to ISIS-controlled areas of the middle east or to Idlib where
the Trump administration has just approved a shipment of US-made anti-tank missiles to Al-Qaeda-linked Islamist rebels fighting in Syria’s Idlib province:
https://thegrayzone.com/2019/05/31/us-missiles-al-qaeda-turkey-syria-idlib/
gravenimage says
The US destroyed the “Caliphate”–there are no ISIS-controlled areas. But christianblood really, really doesn’t want anyone to know that.
christianblood says
gravenimage
US destroyed ISIS? C’mon! US created and facilitated ISIS along with Saudi Arabia and others to regime-change Syria and now the largest concentration of Al-Qaeda fighters on Earth is in Idlib, Syria
where the US has just approved a shipment of US-made anti-tank missiles which is to be delivered to those Al-Qaeda fighters. Read the report on the link I provided above!
BTW, US has been transferring its failed ISIS proxies to Ukraine to start a bloody jihad against the Russian-speaking Ukrainians in the Donbass region of Ukraine. See more of this below:
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/447536-isis-chechen-islamists-ukraine/
christianblood says
Trump is protecting Al-Qaeda franchise in Syria’s Idlib!
Watch the interview with Max Blumenthal:
https://www.rt.com/usa/458285-blumenthal-trump-alqaeda-franchise/
christianblood says
gravenimage
US-led coalition aircraft drop food, medicine to ISIS remnants in western Iraq and Graven called this as an act of humanitarian gesture by the US coalition shown to ISIS jihadists:
https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2019/05/07/595353/USled-coalition-aircraft-drop-food-medicine-to-Daesh-remnants-in-western-Iraq-Report
christianblood says
thebigW
I don’t agree with everything that Max says in the interview but he is absolutely right in calling out Trump’s protection of the Al-Qaeda franchise in Syria’s Idlib!
gravenimage says
Yes–the “Caliphate” no longer exists, thanks to the Americans. But christianblood has always sneered at this–despite all the Christian and Yezidi lives it has saved.
“U.S.-Backed Forces Declare Defeat Of ISIS ‘Caliphate”
https://www.npr.org/2019/03/23/706147761/u-s-backed-forces-declare-defeat-of-isis-caliphate
And no–I never said that the US dropping food and medicine to the remnants of ISIS was “an act of humanitarian gesture” (sic)–I said that there was no report of this from any mainstream news source (PressTV is the Iranian state mouthpiece), but that it was notable that even likely prevaricating that the worse thing the Mullahs could think about saying is that the Americans were dropping food and medicine.
Clayton Norcroft says
That the United Sates has in any way supported either ISIS or Al Qaeda is an absurd fantasy. Such a thing is about as likely as that Israel created Hezbollah, though I have actually heard people say that.
And I would not recommend watching ANY interviews with Max Blumenthal. That’s on a par with asking Marine LePen what she thinks of France’s Jews.
christianblood says
gravenimage posted
(…Yes–the “Caliphate” no longer exists, thanks to the Americans…)
U$ propoganda!
U$A is the “founder” of ISIS!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCHuZM_9qTk
kuriakose says
christianblood:
It is really laughable that the US claims to have defeated the caliphate in Syria. Speak to observers in Syria (Christian priests for the matter, and they have a different view.
Eg, ‘Without Putin, Syria Would Have Ceased to Exist’: Interview with Flemish Priest Living in Syria- https://www.globalresearch.ca/without-putin-syria-would-have-ceased-to-exist-interview-with-flemish-priest-living-in-syria/5594692. Quote from this priest: Flemish Father Daniel Maes, who has lived in Syria since 2010, the coverage of the Syrian war is based on lies. President Bashar al-Assad is not the problem, but our own politicians, who support ISIS and Al Nusra, in order to topple the Syrian government. “The real terrorist leaders are in the West and Saudi Arabia.”
Or: “It is shameful that the so-called free world was accomplice to that disaster for no reason than satisfying the greed and opportunism of its politicians. All fake news of the agglomerate media, like the show play of chemical attacks attributed to the Syrian soldiers, were based on lies, in order to keep the fighting going on,” Syriac Catholic Patriarch Ignace Joseph III Younan
https://www.irishcatholic.com/catholic-prelates-aghast-at-unspeakable-suffering-in-syria/
February 18, 2016
Bishop Georges Abou Khazen, the apostolic vicar for Aleppo’s Latin-rite Catholics, said that there has been “continuous bombardment of civilians” by “groups that are called the ‘moderate opposition’” but “do not differ from the other jihadists (Islamic State and al-Nusra) other than by name,” according to Vatican Radio. In some parts of the city, the Assad government’s “regular army is advancing with the help of the Russians, and in the liberated areas the operation of water and electricity is beginning again, the schools reopen.”
https://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=27530
November 10, 2015
Syrian Orthodox Patriarch of Antioch and All the East, Mar Ignatius Ephrem II, arrives in Moscow thanks Russia for its support and calls on called on the “United States and other world powers to stop the flow of funds to terrorist organizations and extremist groups ”
http://www.asianews.it/news-en/Ahead-of-Vienna-2,-Syrian-Orthodox-Patriarch-of-Antioch-and-All-the-East-arrives-in-Moscow-35825.html
October 12, 2015
Syrian bishop Jacques Behnan Hindo (Western propaganda keeps talking about moderate rebels, who do not exist.), has expressed similar concerns: The US, France and Britain “only speak of attacking the Daesh (ISIS), but do not speak of the Nusra Front and other Islamist militias linked to Al Qaeda.” Bishop Hindo was outraged by Senator John McCain’s admission that anti-Assad rebels are CIA-trained and said that even ISIS “in some way have been helped by the Americans and their ambiguous attitude.”
http://www.raymondibrahim.com/2015/10/12/syrian-christian-leader-russia-really-targeting-isis-u-s-airstrikes-are-just-window-dressing/
October 6, 2015
A Syrian Catholic archbishop has accused the United States of joining forces with al-Qaeda in an attempt to topple President Bashar Al-Assad. Archbishop Jacques Behnan Hindo of Hassaké-Nisibi said he believed that the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) was arming and training rebel groups in Syria which were al-Qaeda under “a different name”. He said it was misleading for Western politicians to speak of support for “moderate rebels” in Syria because such groups simply did not exist. He also said that Western military interference in his country was misguided because it could make Syria “like Libya”, a country where government and law and order have effectively collapsed amid fighting by rival groups after the US, Britain and France helped to bring down Muammar Gaddafi in 2011.
http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/news/2015/10/06/syrian-archbishop-criticises-us-for-siding-with-al-qaeda/
Don’t waste your time, we will only be barbecued for saying this. Fancy semantics will be employed to prove that we are secretly shariah/islamic supporters for saying this.
I would posit that it is the Christians in Syria who know best what is going on there.
US has long lost its moral compass, eg ‘ America hosts 428 million porn pages, or 60 percent, of the worldwide total. Netherlands, which sits in 2nd place, hosts 187 million pages (26 percent). Meanwhile, 66 percent of the porn hosted in the United States comes from California, which makes sense considering it’s the center of both the technology industry and the porn industry.’
Money and control is what matters to the real rulers of the world, ethics and morality are irrelevant.
christianblood says
kuriakose posted
(…It is really laughable that the US claims to have defeated the caliphate in Syria. Speak to observers in Syria (Christian priests for the matter, and they have a different view…)
Absolutely right, kuriakose! And thanks for all the great links that are documenting the fact that Syrian Christians favors Russia greatly and see them as saviors whereas they criticize and abhor the US and the West for supporting murderous jihadists like ISIS and Al-Qaeda! No body with a sound mind believes that US and its allies fought ISIS or Al-Qaeda in Syria and we all know that US and its allies like Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Turkey, France, UK, Nato, Israel, UAE and others were all inbed with ISIS and Al-Qaeda hopping to depose Assad using their jihadists proxies and thereby initiate religious genocide against Christians and other minorities in Syria! THANK GOD THEY FAILED THEIR EVIL GENOCIDAL PLANS!
My prayer for now is that they should never get away with this!
These people are pure evil, genocidal, bad, corrupt, destructive, hateful,
heinous, hideous, malevolent, malicious, nefarious, ugly, immoral,
unpleasant, vicious, vile, murderous, villainous and wicked! Again may God’s swift punishment be upon them!
joanofark06 says
I finally found a comment, that had a “reply” way up above all these comments, with no “reply”. Please people, if you want people to reply to your comment (and it would be very helpful), please check the box under your comment that says “NOTIFY ME OF NEW COMMENTS….” or else we can’t reply.
After hitting a “reply”, to someone, I scrolled down to read the many comments after, so that now, with my short-term memory, I forget who I was going to reply to, or what they said….but I sure enjoyed reading the many comments about the argument about the US supporting the evil groups! Lots of good evidence, and with all the archiving of the same thing, I got tons myself! And I got so much to say, I hope this comment won’t be too long.
First, speaking of Trump, I supported him…at the beginning. About a month. Then I saw what he was. Someone would have to see all the evidence I have, that he wants Assad out of power. For what, I can’t figure out.
Quite a few years ago, Assad was on our tv here in the US, and talking to some news station, I can’t remember who now, but wow, he blew me away, on how quiet, and intelligent, and how kind he was! I wish I had a copy of that today, because I’ve never seen nor heard from HIM, ever again! Why haven’t we seen him talk? Why haven’t we heard from him, on ANYTHING? So many leaders against him…WHY? And there’s no articles of him saying a word! I do nothing but read articles all day, and I hear from Putin, I hear from the evil leader of Iran, I hear from this leader, and that leader….but has anyone heard from Assad? What’s his view on what’s going on with leaders trying to topple him?? I wonder if anyone can show me, or give me evidence on what his thoughts are. Assad just made a big impression on me, on the news show, and that was many years ago, but I’ll never forget it. And I can’t see him, poisoning his own people, like everyone says he did. I just wish I had proof. Trump or any other leader, hasn’t thrown anything to me, but words.
So speaking of Trump, being two faced, what has anyone said, or thought about him hosting a ramadan dinner in the White House? Is everyone ignoring that, because he’s done a few good things? All you have to do, if you don’t believe he did this (And obummer done it too), is put those words in a search box, and you’ll see MANY reports on it (I have links).
NOT only that, but after, gave a short, sweet speech, to the millions of “them”, we have in this country! If anyone doesn’t believe me, it’s because it’s hidden on a website, that no one really looks at. The White House dot GOV website. And I believe that no one else has seen it, but me. But I’ve shared it, in more than one comment, and here we post it again, for all to see:
Presidential Message on Ramadan
Issued on: May 15, 2018
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/presidential-message-ramadan/
Don’t ask what the cult-like “rising of the moon” has to do with…could it be he’s referring to islam rising?? Weird…
Now, does anyone remember, where Trump went, on his FIRST overseas visit as prez? Probably not, but I have plenty of articles archived about that too! The muslim country of Saudi Arabia. And like Obummer, Trump did his little “bow” to receive his pretty gold “necklace” from the Saudi king. Alone with many expensive gifts from them, he had a grand ole time there! He’s always supported, and so here’s HIS presents to THEM!
Trump approved Saudi nuclear transfers after Khashoggi killing: senator
http://www.spacewar.com/reports/Trump_approved_Saudi_nuclear_transfers_after_Khashoggi_killing_senator_999.html
At least our State Dept, is a little bit awake! Their trying to stop him! Whatever you think of mainstream news, I don’t think the NYTimes is lying about this (read it and weep):
Trump Officials Prepare to Bypass Congress to Sell Weapons to Gulf Nations
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/23/us/politics/trump-saudi-arabia-arms-sales.html
I guess we need their oil or something? But then we need them to keep pushing islam to our young children in schools across America, right? Making America great again, I’m sure. Seeing our Trump isn’t getting his pick for Sec of Education to do anything about it. Or doing anything about the many muslim training camps all across this country. Which one is in MY state, and I don’t like it one bit.
Yeah, he moved our embassy to Jerusalem…nice. And so?
christianblood says
kuriakose
President Assad of Syria received the Patriarch of the Serbian Orthodox church, patriarch Irinej yesterday, the good patriarch also held meetings with Orthodox and other Christians in Syria and encouraged them to keep the fight and keep the light of Christ shining in Syria as they did for thousands of years!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAYmqca-B14
gravenimage says
christianblood has said many times before that it is actually the Americans and the rest of the West waging violent Jihad.
Then kuriakose cites terrified dhimmis who say the same thing. (and note that kuriakose completely sidesteps the defeat of ISIS, in any case).
christianblood finishes by again demanding that God punish the West–and he has made this clear that what he means by this is that the West should be conquered and destroyed by Muslims.
kuriakose has preached the same thing here–that all of us ‘filthy Infidels’ need to be murdered by Muslims. *Ugh*.
christianblood says
kuriakose
Lebanese president to Putin:
(…We thank you for your stances that defend the Christian minorities in the Levant and we hope you will continue this help…)
https://russia-insider.com/en/lebanese-president-thanks-putin-defending-christians-middle-east/ri26659
christianblood says
joanofark06 posted
(…First, speaking of Trump, I supported him…at the beginning. About a month. Then I saw what he was. Someone would have to see all the evidence I have, that he wants Assad out of power. For what, I can’t figure out…)
Joanofark, you really sound a person with strong sense of morality!
US and its allies such as Nato, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Turkey and Israel
wanted to topple the secular, multi-cultured, multi-faith Syrian state led by president Assad for a number of reasons. Those reasons include,
among others, destroying Alawite (Assad is an Alawite which is an offshoot of Shia Islam), Christian, Druze and Shiite minorities for their powerful Sunni allies,like Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE, Turkey, Bahrain and Kuwait and others and replace them with Takfiri/Wahhabi/Muslim-brotherhood Sunnis, to put a Saudi, US and Nato puppet regime in Syria, to kick Russia out of its only Mediterranean base located in Syria, to ‘isolate’ Iran and Hezbollah and to put a Qatari gas-line through Syria-Turkey and then to Western Europe! However, this is the most evil part of all their satanic genocidal plan:
They didn’t care not only the resulting genocide and mass-murder of millions of Alawites, Druze and Shiite minorities in Syria but the complete extermination of 1.7 million ancient Christians, including the only Christians in the world that speaks Aramaic, the language that Jesus spoke during his sojourn on Earth! And this what makes America and its allies THE MOST EVIL GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT WORLD HAS EVEN SEEN IN RESENT YEARS! I know God will NOT let them get away with this and they will see their reward for this soon! As for Trump changing after he came into the White House, you are right, but understand that as any other US president before him Trump is simply a puppet of the evil shadow government that runs the US affairs behind the scenes!
Trump is even transferring nuke technology to the ISIS-like Saudi Arabia! Please look that up! And more about their Syrian agenda please watch the documentary below:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGEc-CMsrQs&feature=youtu.be
gravenimage says
Joan, do you *really* prefer murderous Muslim dictators to the President of the United States? Wow.
christianblood says
gravenimage
If there is murderous dictatorship, mafia state it is NOT Syria or another nation but the U$A!
U$A invaded and bombed many dozens of countries murdering 20 million civilians since 1945! No country in the history of humanity has been as bloody and as evil as the U$A but immoral and wicked Graven won’t condemn this! Shame on you!
More below:
https://www.globalresearch.ca/us-has-killed-more-than-20-million-people-in-37-victim-nations-since-world-war-ii/5492051
Rock Nixon says
I haven’t heard this much nonsense it my 70 years on earth. Chrfistianblood gets his information from Russia Today. The so called Bishop has no understanding of history, the Koran or the Bible. Thanks everyone for a good laugh
Rock Nixon
gravenimage says
christianblood has said this before–that America should be condemned for daring to save the world from Fascism, to have saved South Korea from Communism (he has lauded North Korea for starving their people), and now for defeating ISIS territorially–all while applauding Muslim dictatorships. Really, this is nothing new from him.
christianblood says
gravenimage
You are a crazed, heartless fascist! Who gave America the right to invade other countries and bomb and mass-murder their civilians?
We are talking about close to 40 countries that the US bombed and invaded over the past few decades killing over 20 million people!
U$A is indeed a Mafia state!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Skyw2TH29s
Indiana Tom says
Russia supports Iran and Iran supports Al Qaeda.
christianblood says
Indiana Tom posted
(…Russia supports Iran and Iran supports Al Qaeda…)
Nonesense! Without Russia, the black flag of Al-Qaeda/ISIS would be flying in Damascus today! U$ supports, funds and arms the very people who attacked it on 9/11. This is mindboggling!
U$ is now transferring nuclear technology to Saudi Arabia/ISIS!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2FKn4aMOoQ
christianblood says
Rock Nixon
I don’t support the evil women calling herself a “bishop”.
I am calling out for the US support of jihadists in Libya, Syria,Yemen,
Kosovo and Bosnia… Rock, I think for real news, you should listen to “The News With Rick Sanchez” he comes on weekdays at 7:30 pm and 8:00 pm eastern time on RT!
https://www.rt.com/shows/news-with-rick-sanchez/460998-news-with-rick-sanchez-june/
gravenimage says
Wait–my being grateful that America and the Allies defeated Fascism makes me a “crazed, heartless fascist”? How does that work?
Most disturbing, though, is christianblood’s rage over our having defeated the Islamic State. Bad dhimmis!
And chistianblood keeps posting this thing from 9/11 “Truther” Jimmy Dore.
abad says
She sounds mentally ill. And I do necessarily mean the lesbian part, either.
But then isn’t Islam mental illness?
Frank Anderson says
abad, I apologize for repeating my explanation. I urge that we should be careful in giving legal cover to criminal conduct, including criminal conspiracy, by dismissing it to mental illness. A mentally ill person either does not know right from wrong or is unable to control the impulse to do wrong. As such, a person who is found mentally ill cannot be treated as a criminal, but is instead hospitalized to be released when certified safe by attending doctors.
The California case of Tarasoff v. Board of Regents started with a man in a mental hospital who repeatedly told his doctors of his wish to kill Ms. Tarasoff. In spite of his musings he was certified and released, whereupon he killed Ms. Tarasoff.
People make the choice to join a criminal conspiracy masquerading as a religion to support its goals whether or not they kill, rape, maim or molest. The acts of one are the acts of all; the knowledge of one is the knowledge of all. It is enough to adopt and further the goals of the conspiracy to be equally responsible for all its acts. By popular understanding, yes, muslims are insane. By legal standards giving them that excuse is an invitation for more of their crimes against us.
gravenimage says
Bishop Brunne is appallingly, suicidally stupid and willfully ignorant, but I don’t see anything she has done that is technically criminal. Citations?
Frank Anderson says
GI, 18 United States Code Section 2, anyone who “Aids, Abets, Counsels or Acts in furtherance. . .” is equally guilty of the crimes. She is aiding and abetting, at the least, in the invasion and destruction of her country. The fact that US law does not apply in Sweden keeps her from being indicted under US law; but it shows her theoretical responsibility for selling out her country. Every civil rights violation, human rights violation under the UN charter that is included in the law of all member countries, rape, murder, theft, welfare fraud, child molestation. . . committed in Sweden is with her (and all who do like her) responsibility. Please look again at my explanations on conspiracy and case cites to show I am not making up a story. The knowledge of one is the knowledge of all; The acts of one are the acts of all. If US law applied and would be enforced she could be dealt with lawfully. It does apply in the US and can be enforced on those who are betraying the Constitution and our country right now. But find a prosecutor.
Frank Anderson says
GI, another addendum. Vidkun Quisling, Paul Reynaud, Mussert of Holland, Dagrelle of Belgium. . .all traitors dealt with as best as possible after being caught.
gravenimage says
Frank, I think it would be difficult either in the US or Sweden to legally prove that she is aiding and abetting in any formal sense.
Unfortunately, there are tens of thousands–millions–more fools like her.
Frank Anderson says
GI, it is impossible to prove anything if you don’t try. I AM, not was, were or used to be, a lawyer who has presented a number of issues for the first time and won many of them. Those that I did not win on the first try usually turned into wins by continuing the argument either in that case or in subsequent cases. The research I have done has been blessed by a number of lawyers, including state bar officials and a former US Attorney/law professor, and tested in court. NO case has ever been cited contrary to my research in warfare extending back over 30 years..
gravenimage says
Frank–with the greatest respect to you and your knowledge of the law–I think it best to first try to spread the truth about Islam being a threat, rather than trying to prosecute the millions who are still ignorant of this fact.
Frank Anderson says
GI, it is not necessary to prosecute all the members of a criminal conspiracy in order to break it and end its rampage. One conviction both deters further participation and encourages abandonment. The first conviction on the issue of criminal conspiracy that survives all appeals will make easier the next and all the others that may need to follow. It may take more than one conviction and more than one defendant charged and tried to get that conviction. Otherwise we are just blowing smoke at a raging fire that will eventually kill all of us. “The longest journey begins. . .” What other steps are possible that will stop the conquest before it wins?
Also, conspiracy is both a crime (under federal and state law), it is also a tort. Look at the SPLC actions against the KKK that ended the dominance of that organization by bankrupting it. Think of the incredible irony of using an SPLC case as authority to defeat one of the activities SPLC supports?
Please consult a currently licensed attorney practicing in your jurisdiction for any legal advice.
A fair question from a fair minded person. Best always.
gravenimage says
Frank, I still think that it makes sense to try to educate people about the threat of Islam first, rather than to try to get them prosecuted by judges and juries likely as clueless as they are about Islam.
Bishop Brunne is a dangerous fool in willful denial about Islam, but I doubt very much that she is deliberately and knowingly conspiring with Muslims to take over Sweden. More likely she simply doesn’t think that Islam is a real threat.
Frank Anderson says
GI, education is great. Awakening is great. Ending tyranny instead of allowing it time to grow and destroy is better. Think of the SPLC OUTRAGE if their work was used to attack their favorite “activity”? Where would the KKK be today if SPLC had not fought and drained them? I would love to be the “fly on the wall” in SPLC if that were tried!
gravenimage says
Frank, often education and awakening are the first steps to ending tyranny. 🙂
Frank Anderson says
GI, no problem there; where do you think judges, juries and plaintiffs’ lawyers start to build cases? I’ve been writing here for several years and have just now made the connection to use SPLC litigation against the Klan as a model for more important efforts. I LOVE the teaching which I write about often “Wisdom is all around us and does not depend on the authority of the source. The challenge is to hear it, distinguish it from error and deception; and then put it to work in our lives!” When SPLC destroyed a major branch of the Klan they also showed the way for others. Let’s make some lemonade from an SPLC lemon!
gravenimage says
Yes–the SPLC *has* done some good things in the past–many people don’t realize they have changed since that time.
Frank Anderson says
GI, what counts for us is what that is good we can do now; even if it means learning from people we despise. I study WWII Germany for as much to see “what not to do” as to see “what to do”. The source, the example does not matter-it is what can be learned and applied for good purposes now. SPLC has shown itself to be a money machine only interested in raking in millions by casting doubt and insults on people whom it does not like. It could be worth remembering that Israel learned Blitzkrieg, “Lightning War” from the Nazi’s.
t. says
Abad, this is the second time you say exactly what I had in mind!
”Brunne is so nearsighted and egocentric that she cannot see beyond the end of her own nose. ”
I think that Christine was very polite and diplomatic describing her that way. This bishop belongs in a mental institution, in the section reserved for dangerous inmates.
And I thought that I saw all the madness the west can exhibit regarding Islam!!
Rufolino says
She is not as mad as all that ! She’s almost mainstream.
Her views have a lot in common with the opinions of Pope Francis.
Is there any hope for Europe ?
observer says
CDW plays the ball and not the person… as does Robert Spencer.
They report without judgement.
What denomination does this priest belong to ?
Does anyone know ?
Just curious.
gravenimage says
Lutheran Church of Sweden.
Don McKellar says
Wilful ignorance is perhaps the greatest enemy to freedom and liberty in the world today. She is ompletely clueless as to Islam and what it teaches — including a death sentence for gays like her. The murder commands, the violence, the slavery, the condoned raping, the suppression of any other religions, the death sentences for atheists — it’s all right there for anybody to read for themselves and watch in practice throughout the moslem world, but yet we see endless examples of wilfully ignorant twits like this.
Westman says
Even being Agnostic, I realize that she has nothing in common with both religions.
The Bible: “A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach..”
Sins in Islam:
Women Imitating Men and Vice Versa
Ascribing Associates To Allah, The Most High
Sodomy
Muslims may have 4 wives – incompatible with Christianity.
Christians believe Christ is the divine Son of God – Islam rejects this as a major sin(shirk).
Neither Islam or Christianity accepts homosexuality in its scriptural doctrine. Christianity now accepts but cannot support it with scripture. In a Muslim country she would be a candle in the wind.
This “Bishop” has more in common with the Unitarians and should consider joining them.
Frank Anderson says
Westman, could it be a case of “Those who believe in everything believe in nothing?”
Paul J says
Also if you “don’t believe in something you will fall for anything’.
Frank Anderson says
Paul J. I certainly agree. At one time I had a poster with almost 100 different statements of Murphy’s Law. All were true, as are these. Decisions, choices, are required if life is to take a direction instead of wandering aimlessly.
mateenelass says
They don’t pay nearly as well…
Westman says
Been there, and you’re right. There is also no Unitarian “megachurches”, and they even have Atheists in the congregation! I found there were a lot of university professors, musicians, artists, vegetarians, and mostly leftists. Nice people but only held together by the church social life, not by religious belief. If there was a local leftist cause, they had a committee for it.
Raja says
Westman, Truthful comments….Those believing everything end up believing nothing… The path gets so broad that don’t know where to go.
Focus on God is essential as God has exposed the futility of choosing the broad path.
Matt 7:13 and 14
13 “Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it.
14 “For the gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are few who find it.
Tom says
“Useful idiot” is the appropriate label to put on this woman. She does not deserve the position of Bishop.
She should be defrocked and sent to a convent for reflection on the basic tenets of Islam and Christianity, so she can understand the difference that a reformation has made for Christianity, and what a lack of reformation has given the world today in Islam.
Maybe then this idiot will see that she is being used as a pawn by Islamists.
Spiro says
Gay female bishop of a church who is at best marginally Christian and ignorant of Islam making opening stupid comments
That says a lot about Sweeden
Stupid is as stupid does
Is there any hope for Sweeden and the rest of Europe
or not
JMB says
+1
J D.S says
A lot of ramblings in today’s posts……Swedeistan is still Swedeistan! and their leaders, church and political, are in Lock-step with the Muslims and Islam.
ToBeFrank says
Your rambling has been noted.
Mirta says
I’ll love to see how much she has in common with Muslims, when they behead her…
Spiro says
If she’s lucky they will only behead her
Don McKellar says
Depends on the situation. If it’s the typical moslem mob who comes for her, she’ll be gang raped and sodomized with whatever objects are available. Then she’ll be executed. We have lots of examples in the recent past and in current events of this happening. Luckily for high profile examples like Lara Logan or British journalist Natasha Smith or that Dutch journalist who wanted anonymity after the humiliation https://www.theage.com.au/world/five-men-rape-journalist-22-in-tahrir-square-reports-20130702-2p8sk.html#ixzz2XtmxqNMl they escaped execution because they were not gay. The “bishop” would not live long after the sexual assaults.
gravenimage says
Grimly true.
Kepha says
And, isn’t it ironic, that these Muslim mobs that are so self-righteous about executing homosexuals, cheerfully engage in mass sodomizing of victims, as in the case of Amb. Stevens? Ugly all around.
And what an ordeal it must have been for Lara Logan and others caught in those mob actions!
gravenimage says
True, Kepha.
Roger Gangitano says
Yep! She and Muslims BOTH have an interest in Gay people! …… She should look into that a bit.
Kepha says
And much in common with ancient Sodom!
ToBeFrank says
She is right. She certainly does not have the Bible in common with right wing Christians, just like “Muslims”
Warmac9999 says
She isn’t much different than the leadership of many supposedly Christian churches in the USA and throughout the West. They really know nothing about Christianity while professing to be biblically knowledgeable. Dangerous people.
Indiana Tom says
And the people said amen.
Clayton Norcroft says
Despicable woman. She represents the lag end of degenerate Christianity. The wisdom of true Christianity’s disallowing of female ministers and its teaching that homosexuality is immoral, is born out by her every word.
When that Christianity, for all its faults, was woven into Europe’s culture, Europe took up the arms it had to and defended itself against the onslaught of the global jihad. Today even the chance of saving that culture is questionable at best, with Sweden in the suicidal forefront. The good bishop is making her contribution to that, for which posterity will curse her, if they are left the freedom of mind to do anything at all.
gravenimage says
There are male clerics who are just as clueless about Islam–including the Pope.
Kepha says
I don’t think that Clayton thinks that having XY chromosomes automatically qualifies someone to be a Christian clergyman. Rather, he is bemoaning what has happened when churches do all the running they can to remain a respectful five paces behind their cultured despisers.
For the record, Uncle Kepha also opposes female ordination and assents to the traditional biblical teaching about homosexuality.
Raja says
Birds of a feather flock together. She has lots of things common with the Muslims especially the lawlessness and the will to totally disregard God. How did this good for nothing lady reach up to this post?
When Muslims come to kill her it might be too late just like the Scandinavian girls.This so called bishop is croaking like a frog for the serpents to do a easy job.
somehistory says
This is good…to say she is “Christian” would be a big fat lie. To say she has commonality with those who carry water for satan’s wild beast is true…in misleading those who have put trust in her, she is just like moslims.
Keys says
“And in fact, we all have the same value. … we have the same value, and we shall live in a country together and have the same rights.”
Wrong on two counts from a Mohammedan perspective. First, as an infidel you are beneath a muslim and are to be despised by them, as their god despises you – you are not one of the best of people. Second, you are a woman and are worth half of a man’s worth.
From my perspective are a virtue signaling, ignorant, destructive fool.
Demsci says
True, Keys. But no doubt in Sweden, where for now Muslims are a minority, she must have been advised by some very clever sly, Islam-apologists, both Muslims and Leftists.
Some leftist Islam experts (in the West mind you, in a western language) will tell the world that “The Islam does not exist”. She evidently believes that, witness her saying that, “ yes, there are terrorists FROM ISLAM. But that is only a tiny minority.”
We would love to ask her to ask those nice Muslims whether “The Islam does not exist”, is true, as it means that Islam then can be interpreted in multiple ways.
But that would logically mean that whatever any one Muslims describes as “true Islam” (as opposed to extremist Islam) would only BE just the one variation in interpretation, the one of many Islam-versions.
And a multi-interpretable Islam is not what many Muslims will ever admit too, let alone declare. No, all Muslims, I read. must believe that Islam is clear, with only one interpretation. Just like Erdogan says.
Right there, in the choice whether Islam is clear (and one Islam does exist) or not, she contradicts a key Islamic tenet, that of clarity and single interpretation of the “Divine message”. And that is one more Islamic objection to her, next to her being Christian, female in power, (openly) gay.
Is she suicidal?
RichardL says
In Europe, protestant churches are generally aligned with the hard left in society and their ministers are party members. If there are Catholic or Eastern churches, they usually are conservative, although that, in some countries (Germany) has changed in the last few years. It is the opposite situation here in the States.
Michael Poulin says
Almost all Catholic bishops and priests, including Francis – are just as clueless as this nit-wit.
joanofark06 says
Right you are.
If you pray to God, you cannot pray to Mary too…
Catholics believe that people must pray through Mary as an intermediary in order for God to listen to their prayers. Where is this written in the bible? SHE DOESN’T answer prayers!
The bible also makes it very clear that all men (and women) are sinners (Except for Jesus) so Mary was a sinner too, so why prayer to her?
The Roman Catholic Church is, at its roots, a satanic cult. Their doctrine and symbols that they use are heretical and created to not only hide the truth about Jesus Christ but also to glorify Satan in a secretive (gnostic) fashion using symbols and rituals that can be traced back to the ancient mystery religions of Egypt, Babylon, Samaria, and Chaldea.
Vatican To Hold Islamic Prayers For The First Time In History:
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jun/9/vatican-makes-history-pope-allows-islamic-prayers-/
POPE FRANCIS EMBRACES CHRISLAM, AND A ONE WORLD RELIGION!
http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/in-new-york-pope-francis-embraced-chrislam-and-laid-a-foundation-for-a-one-world-religion
CATHOLICS CALL THE POPE..GOD
http://jesus-is-lord.com/blasphmy.htm
And just ONE more about the Pope claiming to be God:
THE POPE CLAIMS TO BE GOD ON EARTH:
http://amazingdiscoveries.org/R-Pope_Rome_blasphemy_power_Jesus
POPE FRANCIS DECLARES EVOLUTION AND BIG BANG THEORY ARE REAL AND GOD IS NOT “A MAGICIAN WITH A MAGIC WAND”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/pope-francis-declares-evolution-and-big-bang-theory-are-right-and-god-isnt-a-magician-with-a-magic-9822514.html
ONE WORLD RELIGION: POPE FRANCIS SAYS ALL MAJOR RELIGIONS ARE ‘MEETING GOD IN DIFFERENT WAYS’
http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/one-world-religion-pope-francis-says-all-major-religions-are-meeting-god-in-different-ways
POPE FRANCIS: JESUS’ LIFE ‘ENDED IN FAILURE’
http://www.charismanews.com/world/52394-pope-francis-jesus-life-ended-in-failure
gravenimage says
No, Catholics do not believe that the pope is God.
And really, it makes sense for all Christians to stand against the savagery of Islam. Jihadists are not going to cavil between denominations when they murder them.
Indiana Tom says
I have about the same views on the catholic church as Martin Luther, but Catholics do not usually believe the pope is God on earth. However, many people do believe they are God on earth.
GreekEmpress says
Hi Richard and Michael,
I belong to the Eastern Rite. Although there are not many of us in the US compared to Roman Catholics and/or Protestants, we are conservative and we are blessed to be able to hear homilies of truth in our liturgies. No extreme left wing lunacy!
We may be small in number, but we are mighty in spirit!
RichardL says
Our neighbour is an Eastern Catholic and so are many around here! I have many friends who are priests and brothers: none of them likes islam.
GreekEmpress says
Awesome!!!!???
PS—We don’t apologize for the Crusades either!!!!
Demsci says
The son of my brother married into a Greek Orthodox family (and converted into it) in Chicago. I attended the “big fat Greek wedding” (or something like that) and the ceremony was awesome! My brother himself is a Protestant minister and our family is divided into Protestants and atheists along the middle, but it was a very amicable wedding party.
Demsci says
They were Greeks from Rhodes originally and no, we all did not apologize for the “Crusader reaction” to the Islamic aggressive onslaught.
Kay says
Eastern Rite Catholic?
and what do you say about the Pope?
RichardL says
Pope Francis is an amazing theologian and an amazing fool when it comes to political issues.
Indiana Tom says
Amazing is an understatement. The guy trips the light fantastic.
Frank Anderson says
This delusion is why I keep asking my question. Most of us who read and write here know better than she does. What can we do to help others see the truly deadly folly of her mindless self-lie? Suicide is deciding to end one’s own life. Without the legal jargon, homicide is deciding to end another person’s or society’s life. “You” cannot commit “my” suicide; but “you” can aid, abet, counsel and act in furtherance of my murder. People who collaborate with furthering the conquest of the world in the name and for the goals of islam, whether they become muslim openly or not, are collaborators and traitors to the countries and communities they betray. With greatest respect to all who understand what we face right now-What can be done?
Kay says
There’s the question of leadership and authority in any church tradition. A person who says they are not one with the Body of Christ should answer to someone.
In Sweden, if this is the best they have to offer, they need missionaries to teach the faith.
Frank Anderson says
Kay, I suggest that each of us has good reason to follow my beloved and honored uncle’s advice when I started asking blunt, direct, harsh questions about religion and Jesus. He said to ask those questions and keep asking them until I find my answer, which will be the right answer for me. I spent 7 years thinking that I was walking through life alone, until I believe God said enough already and placed me where I would hear a message that moved me along to better, but still incomplete understanding. I cannot prove the existence of God or the life of Jesus. But I think both are true. I am grateful that I have not been forced into those beliefs because my life is better for the work. I believe that I am living proof of God’s Love, Generosity, Grace. Mercy and Sense of Humor. A lot could be written to explain my opinion; but would only distract from the point that we are all God’s Children. He wants us to be free of all forms of slavery and oppression. It is up to us to claim that freedom and to protect it against tyrants of all kinds and labels.
Kay says
You sound clear headed Frank Anderson.
My comment above wasn’t clear. I was in a hurry to get to work. Sorry.
I was responding in conversation with you but about the bishop.
I honor your personal questions and search.
I believe each person will find his or her own pathway. (Actually I believe God seeks us).
My comment was about the church woman in question. If one claims to be Christian then it follows that s/he is part of the Body of Christ. Her claims regarding “right wing” Christians are nonsensical.
I hope this is clearer.
Frank Anderson says
I have no problem with your comment. It gave me an opportunity to write about my experience and search. I agree that God seeks us even when we think we are avoiding Him. My experience after 7 years of HARD questioning Makes me have that conclusion. Almost exactly 7 years after my fight started, something made me see that I had not been alone. I felt strong motivation to accept an invitation extended months earlier to a church where I heard the only sermon in my life, so far, that I did not conduct, on the Parable of the Two Sons in Matthew. I would have sworn the sermon and parable were created just for me. My connection is, as far as I know, unusual, and possibly unique. My dear, lifelong friend is a Presbyterian Minister who gets, to my sadness, “challenged” with my views. I don’t see a problem for each of us to make our own connection-because as my uncle told me many times that it will be the best. What I had been through almost 50 years ago is nothing compared to what I have survived since. But I am still living and doing all good that I can. Not bad for a nobody who claims to be another of God’s Children (ALL who call upon Him as Father)..
gravenimage says
Good exchange.
Frank Anderson says
I think of many unexpected people who might read this and get some ideas of their own. Imagine seeds of personal questioning being planted as they were with me over 50 years ago. Is that one of our goals? The God of Life in preference to a god of death?
David Longfellow says
Christian in name only.
Frank Anderson says
D.L. I have worked now more than 50 years to understand Jesus, which I think is the most important work I can do. Still working: But I early decided that he was much smarter than to sell out to people who would destroy his community. The God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and Jesus is The God of Life. The god of islam is a god among many of death.
Kay says
True
mateenelass says
Eva Brunne is right that she has more in common with Muslims than Christians at least in this one way — she illustrates perfectly Muhammad’s assessment of a woman’s intelligence:
Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri:
The Prophet said, “Isn’t the witness of a woman equal to half of that of a man?” The women said, “Yes.” He said, “This is because of the deficiency of a woman’s mind.” (Bukhari 3.48.826).
(With my apologies to the rest of womankind, and particularly the female readers of JihadWatch, whose profound intellects are beyond question!)
gravenimage says
You are certainly right in this particular case.
joanofark06 says
Even our bible says that women are not to teach. Don’t have the verse right now.
gravenimage says
Isn’t commenting on line a type of teaching?
Indiana Tom says
One of Paul’s letters, but it needs to.be put in its proper context and not just regurgitated.
R Russell says
Eva Brunne almost the same spelling as Eva Braun. Mmmm.
It suits her.
Part of the end time apostate church.
Frank Anderson says
I feel some sympathy for Eva Braun that I do not feel for the “bishop”. Braun was kept in near isolation as a secret. She may have had some small benefit in limiting Hitler, MAY HAVE. She kept her feelings to herself and never did anything to go public. “Blessed are the merciful. . . “
tedh754 says
What difference does it make that only a small “minority” are violent? It was probably a small minority of Nazi party members who were psychotic. But look at the horror they caused. When the time comes, the great majority of Muslims will do what their deranged imams tell them to do.
No Muzzies Here says
If she thinks modern-day Christianity is violent and repressive, then she needs to convert immediately to Islam, a gentle, tolerant, peaceful religion of love, kindness and acceptance. Then she can experience for herself the warm embrace that she will receive.
Let me know how it works out, eh?
JMB says
Would this woman be given a position of authority in any mosque? Would this woman be permitted to wear male Islamic clerical attire inside or outside of a mosque? Would this woman be permitted to re-interpret the Koran to support her own views on homosexuality? Does this woman realise that she is destroying the very organisation that pays her wages or is the Church of Sweden a government instrumentality?
James says
If it is only a tiny minority of Muslims that commit terrorism, why have the Palestinians never agreed to a peace settlement with Israel? The two Scandinavian women who went to North Africa full of love and sympathy and were brutally murdered. Does the Bishop have anything in common with them? How about moderate Christians who do not want their church and society islamized. Does the bishop have anything in common with them? Does the bishop think that Christian religion would be respected if the Muslims should gain political domination over Sweden in the future? She is one of those “ostrich Christians” who see no evil, hear no evil. But the evil is there waiting for them. It reminds me a bit of the parable about a preacher standing on a corner preaching to a deaf crowd while an evil hound with glowing eyes circles around him. I think Durrenmat wrote this, but I am not sure of which book or collection.
Raja says
How come she is sporting a “cap”? what is she holding in her hand? They are useless by any standards and God hates tradition when mixed with piety.
The Church was and is intended to help people save from impending destruction of earth/Judgment day. God has always kept His word and this time?
Jesus was primarily interested in bringing man to God other things were secondary. He was concerned about many things but made only passing remarks. Serious ones were child sacrifice (during his time) “bearded elites” who obstructed people from coming to God.
This clown has other agenda just the opposite of what Jesus had or did.She has the audacity to distinguish Christians as: Right wing christians. She is probably bragging that she is left wing Christian.
Is there anything called left wing Christian? Didn’t Christ prophesy that wolves would come in sheep’s clothing? How true..
Paul N Silas says
As we say here in the South, ” Dumb as a box of rocks”.
Yaffle says
Is there a dumber demographic on the planet than female Swedish clerics?
Kepha says
Maybe Norwegian, Canadian, and Eastern Seaboard American ones? [facetious]
Indiana Tom says
Liberals.
Wellington says
Useful idiot. They’re proliferating in the West today because the West has lost sight of why Western Civilization, historically speaking, is, by far—not even a close call—the greatest civilization in history.
The West invented philosophy (ancient Greeks); invented democracy (ancient Greeks); invented the middle finger gesture (ancient Greeks again, especially in Aristophanes’ comedies, but I digress); it invented the scientific method (accomplished and refined in the 16th, 17th and 18th centuries); it developed the finest medical procedures in the world (particularly from the late nineteenth century onward); it extended to women more rights than any other major civilization in history; it showed better than any major civilization in history that it is important to apologize for past wrongdoings (query: when has the Islamic world, the American Indian world, the Asian world, the sub-Saharan African world, et al. ever apologized for anything?); it invented the greatest and most extensive technological advancements, among them being railroads, the telegraph, the telephone, submarines, radio, TV, computers, automobiles, planes, satellites, placing human beings on the moon, air conditioning (hey, imagine how many people would live in states like Florida and Texas if air conditioning didn’t exist), printing machines, the Internet (sorry, but not due to Al Gore), aircraft carriers, nuclear technology, et al.
And yet now a rube like this silly bishop in Sweden, in full multicultural and politically correct mode, is identifying more with Muslims than so called “right-wing Christians” who would never condone her being raped even though many Muslims would, even though Islamic theology allows it (e.g., Suras 4,23, 33 and 70). Does she even know that Mo himself, per Islamthink, visited Hell and said that most there were women? Or that the baby Jesus in Sura 19 announces he is a Muslim? Or, per Islamthink again, Jesus, that wonderful Muslim before Mo, will come back at the end of the world and throw all Christians into Hell for deifying Him? What about Sura 98:6 in the Koran which refers to Christians and Jews as “the vilest of creatures.”—does this foolish woman even know this? And then there is Sura 4:34, that wonderful verse in Mein Korampf which helps insure that women should always be subordinate to men, even beaten. Yes, what a useful idiot this Swedish woman is.
Time for a beer. The world has gone mad, especially what remains of the West.
Kepha says
This woman Jezebel (who wants to remove “Our Father” from Christian prayer as well, lest it offend the feminists) is not so much “multicultural” as anti-cultural. One thing I’ve taken away from visiting JW is that the Leftist MC[?]PC mentality depends on a very superfial knowledge of much and detailed or in-depth knowledge of nothing save its own contemporary echo chamber.
And we wonder why the churches of Europe and the more “ejjikated” parts of the USA are empty!!
Mathew Joseph says
Isn’t she wearing a fool’s cap? Enough said.
Michael Poulin says
You can add legal things like a right to counsel, the right to see and present evidence, the right to confront one’s accuser, the right to have standing in a court, trial by jury, the right to your good reputation, the notion of a government that serves the people…many common legal practices taken for granted today but some actually developed in the Church’s Inquisitional courts … surely never perfected because people are not perfect, ,,,but the West has deeply embedded in it’s heart the search for Truth…which drives success in many fields…
James sang says
She and other people who say these comments do not know what the Quran says about the punishment of gays.
Frank Anderson says
J.S. we agree about their not knowing. I have been looking for ways to help others find out. Any ideas or suggestions?
joanofark06 says
Show them the verses, as they are written in the book? But then they’d probably say, they don’t believe in that book..”sigh”. In that case, there’s no help for them..
Frank Anderson says
JOA, I spent many years learning there are some clients, prospective and accepted, that cannot be helped even at the price of personal sacrifice and harm. I did not earn money in that work. I lost. Finally I saw that it is necessary to dismiss a client and withdraw from the representation rather than neglect other clients who will do their part to win the case they need to win. One of the great, memorable moments in my sole practice, where I was the entire office for lack of sufficient money to pay for help, was when I told my first prospective client to take his case to another lawyer. It felt so good that it made it easier to move on to more cooperative clients and away from those who would be more of a problem than their opponents. Some people don’t want help because they crave the attention and labor of others to deal with problems they make incapable of solution. I think there may be elements of sadism and narcissism in what I call Parasite Personality Disorder.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
Like Marie Antoinette haranguing Louis 16 to lift the ban on Beaumarchais’ seditious little play so she could produce it in her private theatre.
Generations of affluence will produce stupid people who think they will always have that affluence no matter how stupidly they undermine it.
Eric Jones says
Flavius Claudius lulianus. Your second paragraph is 100% correct. Bravo.
Eric
Ed Mulrenan says
Sweden sodomite bishop i is no more Christian than the Muslims. Thst is why Christians. Are deserting the evangl. Lutheran church there in Sweden in droves..
John says
The Devil’s Apostate about to be stoned by islam it appears
mortimer says
Eva Brunne has not read and studied the Koran, Sira (Mohammed’ official biography), Bukhari, the canonical commentaries or manuals of Sharia law, and yet, preposterously, she presents herself fraudulently as an expert on Islam.
This person is a fraud and charlatan and heretical. She should be relieved of all clerical responsibilities.
The MAIN JOB of the bishop is to evangelize and baptize pagans. The religion of Jihad and Sharia is a pagan, idol-worshipping cult.
Kepha says
I think she knows even less about the Bible and the writings of Martin Luther than she knows about the Qur’an! If you asked her who Olaus Petri (the guy who advanced the Lutheran reformation in Sweden back in the 1500’s) was, she’d probably give you a blank, stupid look and say, “Is he some new rock star”?
I think that Soeren Kierkegaard (Dane that he was) would’ve had a field day with her.
Ilíon says
Well, I can’t say that I fault her (ahem) reasoning … after all, Moslems only want to murder her, whereas we “right-wing Christians” want to *convert* her to a true and saving faith in Christ.
Frank Anderson says
Ilion, there are some people that the effort to save from themselves is a total waste of time. I suggest the main result of such futile efforts is to delay our own action to save ourselves and the people who do listen. “There are none so blind as those who REFUSE to see.” How many people died for both reasons, deliberate blindness and futile efforts, in the Holocaust?
James Lincoln says
Great posts, Frank, on this feature article – much thanks.
Frank Anderson says
J.L. Thank you. I want to do well for people I treasure.
Kepha says
Paul tells us that no-one can say that Jesus is Lord unless by the Holy Spirit. We see from the New Testament that the Holy Spirit sometimes blesses the preaching of the Gospel to save people (Ac. 16:14). Maybe Eva Brunne will be so blessed. Maybe not. We have seen more Muslims opened to the Gospel in the last few decades than in the previous millennium. Maybe, if we call on God’s Spirit, He will do even more–including reviving these idolators in clercial robes (even if part of Uncle Kepha thinks–and trembles at it– that apostasy in clerical garb may just be God’s super-fuel for the Lake of Fire).
gravenimage says
Sweden: bishop of Stockholm says she has more in common with Muslims than “right-wing Christians”
……………………
What an idiot. Muslims will be just as happy to behead Bishop Brunne as they will any “right-wing Christians”.
gravenimage says
The Stockholm bishop is not the only member of the church of Sweden to have expressed a fondness for Islam. Last year, Muslims in the city of Växjö lobbied the local government to allow for the public broadcast of the Islamic call to prayer.
While many rejected the idea, Bishop Fredrik Modeus announced his support for it saying: “I welcome the application and look forward to hearing both church bells and prayer announcements in our city.”….
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Another fool. He should know that wherever Muslims are in power church bells are soon silenced–often violently.
Dano says
When liberated, leftist, lesbian women lead a nation, it is only toward ruin.
Kepha says
There have been some similar ecclesiastical disasters among American “Mainstream” churches.
Indiana Tom says
Bingo.
Savvy Kafir says
This idiot should test her theory by moving to a Muslim-majority country and trying to live as an openly-gay person.
BeegtymeRawkstah says
She’s actually correct. She’s going to the same hell as all non-Christians
STJOHNOFGRAFTON says
Eva Brunne, Bishop of Stockholm is deluded.
2 Thessalonians 2:10-11 says:
“….and with all the deception of wickedness for those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth so as to be saved. For this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false,…”
Perhaps emigrating to a majority Islamic country will disabuse her of that smug delusion.
Eric Jones says
To many Christian leaders today are committed to leading their Christian sheep to the slaughter For some Christian pastors the ministry is just a path to a nice middle class life. No strength to fight evil. No call to save souls. May god help us all.
Eric
Kepha says
That is way too true. I would add that for a lot of female clergy, it seems to be a game of “anything you can o, I can do better>”–to the detriment of churches everywhere. I’ve seen considerable overlap between the sets of mae clergy and great men of God, but almost none between female clergy and great women of God.
mortimer says
Eva Brunne är definitionen av en kättare.
Hon är ipso vacto diskvalificerad för att undervisa i Sveriges Kyrka.
Crusades Were Right says
“It’s Christianity, Jim – but not as WE know it!”
lol
Kepha says
Ja såklart. Jeg tror hun er ukvalifisert for å undervise i enhver kristen kirke. (Min Mor, Gud hvile henne, ver en Norske Jente).
Pieter says
The pope, she and many catholic leaders are the biggest traders of Christianity.
Rufolino says
Pieter, expect you intended to say, “the biggest traitors of Christianity”.
It appears they are.
Pieter says
Rufolino, sorry, yes I mean traitors, me English is not perfect, its also the reason that I give short comments, God safe the European country Sweden, UK and others, with this kind of catholic and also reformd clerics.
Frank Anderson says
Pieter, many of us have problems with the language, with sticking and recalcitrant keyboards and bad eyesight allowing errors to slip past our proofing that what we would like to say often has errors. We, including myself, do the best we can and ask for pardon for our errors. With a little effort most of us can figure out what is meant.
Kepha says
And I say “Amen”. 本人同意,也从心底说阿们。Are you Dutch?
Katz says
Just makes me want to throw up.
andrew mckendrick says
Eva Brunne the personification of the Stockholm Syndrome
Evelyn Hall says
Is it any wonder Christians are turning away from the Church in droves after the constant betrayal form clerics from this woman right up to the Pope?
What very unchristian behaviour from a cleric. Jesus must be crying tears of blood, wherever he is.
So, let the Bishop convert and cover herself in the straight jacket that is a burqa for as long as she has left before being tossed off a building. Would this be a loss to anyone compared to the damage being inflicted on Christianity by a representative of the Church?
Kay says
And when they turn away, what will they find?
Sweden sounds like a missionary field.
Marigold says
Words fail me! This so called ”bishop” has her head in the clouds but she would soon come down to earth if militant Islamists threw her from a roof top.
Demsci says
But then it’s too late!
DP111 says
Eva Brunne – the name rings a bell.
Anyway, poor woman – doesn’t have a clue.
WPM says
If she moved or visited an Islamic lead country in that outfit she is pictured here without armed protection which method would the Moslems use to kill her? Throw her off a roof ,stone her by burying her up to waist and having a wall fall on her,, burn her alive in a cage ,or beheading may a combination of all four? What would happen if she visited a group meeting of “Christian right wingers” in her Halloween religious outfit she might get the cold shoulder and a lot of dirty looks. They might even make jokes behind her back oh the horrors of” homophobic” Christians that say hate the sin love the sinner .What brand of right wing Christians are throwing gays off roofs, beheaded people in the name of Christ, staging promoting in their Sunday masses violent attacks on gay night clubs all over the world??
eduardo odraude says
Christine Douglass-Williams makes an excellent point about the egocentricity of this “bishop.” I only wish Brunne would go live and preach in the Muslim world, where she can suffer the implications of her own selfish, suicidal stupidity rather than impose her would-be suicidal path on Sweden and the West. If you want to help the Muslim world, you can’t do it by committing suicide. Even on airlines they instruct you to put your own breathing mask in place first in emergency, and only then help your children with their masks. There’s a reason for that.
Brunne is just another idiot who looks at a king with no clothes and admires his sartorial genius. The king in this case is the public opinion established by the politically correct, the conformists, the terrified, the self-satisfied. It takes a child (like Trump!) to state the obvious truth! All the “sophisticates” are too stupid to notice what’s really happening.
One only hopes that Brunne is less of an idiot than she seems to be, and that she is cpnverting Muslims to something else. It seems as likely that her foolish example is only strengthening Muslim convictions about the worthiness of Islam, a result that would be a disaster not just for Sweden, but for those unfortunate Muslims kept tied to an violently expansionist totalitarian cult.
eduardo odraude says
By the way, folks, Trump just gave an outstanding speech that even a few on the left are praising. The speech celebrates the heroism of the Normandy invasion D-Day. He gave the speech at Normandy itself. Veterans of the invasion were present at the speech, and a couple of the surviving heroes of that invasion were introduced by Trump. You can google to find the speech.
joanofark06 says
Yeah, I saw him standing by Muslim Macron! Made me sick! Hope we don’t ever have to help him with fighting his million nazi muslims, like all the other countries in Europe, that have been taken over. What’s it gonna take, for those countries, to wake up, before their taken over?? How many of their citizens have to die violent deaths from those evil monsters? You wouldn’t ever find me standing in the dog crap country of France!
Macron Vows Punishment for States Refusing Mass Muslim Migration
https://gellerreport.com/2018/09/macron-mass-muslim.html/
The Fracturing of France
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/13335/fracturing-france
After reading that last article, put in the words “Macron and Trump” on youtube, and see if that compares to the kissing, hugging, holding hands, etc..they do. Something weird going on!
And that’s just a few of the hundreds of articles I have on France being taken over. You ought to hear of all the christians, jews, and other NON muslims, that are dying in THAT country, alone!
I don’t want to see the past of a D-Day video….when war is coming again in Europe. This time, it’s a enemy that has been invited in! It’s only a matter of time….
R Bolles says
Well ‘YES”…she is Evil and Musklims worship Evil
joanofark06 says
Right! What other “peoples”, or “ideology”, have in their “book”, 109 verses that say to kill the unbeliever! That say to NOT make friends with NON muslims. That say a muslim should be killed for leaving islam? That have killed anyone that’s not one of them, all over the world? Sounds like a group, that satan would just LOVE to the leader of…oh he is already.
Kay says
We preach Christ crucified.
Saint Paul
MJP says
She is an imbecile
mortimer says
She is impervious to facts. Everything is so much fun and games for people like this. She’s on a power trip. No integrity when you deny canonical doctrines. Islam is a frontal assault against Christianity.
OLD GUY says
As a gay she needs to worry about being tossed off a high building by her new Muslim friends. At least the Christian and Catholics will pray for her. Bad choice HANGING with Islam if your GAY!
Alain says
Christine, it could not have been put more clearly. Well said.
Andy says
How do people this clueless manage to function in the real world. Wow.
FYI says
Yet another smiley,Christless judas, all dressed up to the nines as a clergyman and poncing around in public pretending she even follows the Gospel[any of it}
Meanwhile in Rome,Mr Bergoglio,the jesuit judas “pope” has decided to rewrite the Our Father,something which one Biblical scholar says “goes against the plain meaning of the Greek of the Gospel text”
Creatures like Brunne and Bergoglio are so obvously false:all dressed up in their finery but preaching lies!
Frank Anderson says
FYI, would you consider the possibility that Judas, the most trusted of the disciples, was directed by Jesus to deliver him to Caiaphas, the Roman collaborator High Priest, who then turned him over to the barbaric, murderous Pontius Pilate, who loved killing Jewish troublemakers for little or no reason? Judas may be getting a raw deal for 2,000 years while the real guilty parties have dodged their crimes. There are substantial errors in the NT description of the “trial” of Jesus before the Sanhedrin which could be better explained by a Rabbi. Jesus, whatever else he was, lived for truth and reconciliation, not guilt and shame. Please, with no offense intended, consider the possibility-“What would Jesus do?”
Dave Thrush says
Sheep are on the right, goats are on the left…Jesus said it, and that’s the way it’s coming down right in front of our faces…
joanofark06 says
I kinda like to see the verse on that…
And so, I’d like to show real verses, that seem to say something to me, when it comes to the subject of islam:
“The alien who is among you shall rise higher and higher and you shall come down lower and lower” (Deuteronomy 28:43)
John 16:2-3 They shall put you out of the synagogues; yea, the time cometh that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.
3 And these things will they do unto you, because they have not known the Father, nor Me.
And WHO would say something like this?
“Come, let us wipe away the nation of Israel. Let’s destroy the memory of its existence” (Psalm 83:4)
They say “peace, peace, when there is no peace?? Which group of “people” always claiming “the religion of peace”? Even the pope believes in THEIR “peace”.
For they have healed the hurt of the daughter of my people slightly, saying, Peace, peace; when there is no peace…(Jeremiah 8:11,12)
By peace he shall destroy many. (Daniel 8:25)
Because they have led My people astray, saying, “Peace,” when there is no peace, and whitewashing any flimsy wall that is built, (Ezekiel 13:10)
Keys says
Verse on sheep and goats: Matthew 25:32-33
About the second coming of Jesus.
eduardo odraude says
I don’t care that she is a lesbian. I care that she substitutes a selfish pseudo compassion for real compassion. What is selfish pseudo compassion? That would be when you make something an object of your compassion without your being actually interested in the specific nature of that object or concerning yourself with what that object might be doing to hurt or destroy the lives of others. With false compassion, your only concern is the way it makes you feel about yourself, pure. So you don’t bother yourself to learn about outer details, human rights statistics, history, and continuous self-education. You don’t think enough to realize that sometimes you must choose the lesser of two evils and that there is no “pure” option. You look down your nose at those grappling with real complexities, while deceiving yourself that you are humble.
Sure, have compassion for Muslims, but not in ways that increase risk to the very existence of non-Muslim societies and peoples all over the earth. And don’t, in order that you can morally preen yourself and feel pure, have the kind of thoughtless inconsiderate compassion that ignores all the victims of Islam today, not least including the billion plus Muslim victims, most of them unaware that they are part of an expansionist, totalitarian-authoritarian theocratic cult of violence.
Sometimes I think it would be good if our “moral leaders” — like this Brunne — were required by their churches to get at least a master’s degree in a STEM field, so they might be a bit more immune to idiot pseudo-compassion that grows out of disinterest in details and concrete facts. We need real compassion, which requires interest in details, love of details, because you can redeem nothing if you don’t care enough to learn and keep learning about specifics, such as Islam’s actual history and the current reality of human rights in Muslim-majority nations, and the detailed Islamic sources that show Muhammad as a brutal totalitarian.
Eric Jones says
eduardo. I could not have said it better myself. Your first paragraph is 100% correct.
Eric
mortimer says
eduardo odraude us right on. Another way to express this thought is VIRTUE-SIGNALLING. It is the replacement of EMPATHY BASED ON KNOWLEDGE OF THE SUBJECT with pseudo-compassion based on GUESSING.
Eva Brunne is GUESSING about what Islam actually teaches. She is not compassionate at all. It’s pretence.
She knows less about Sharia law than the knows about the Nile tsetse fly.
IGNORANCE of Islam is NOT bliss. Ignorance of Islam plus naivety is BLOODY DANGEROUS FOR ALL SOCIETIES.
gravenimage says
Good post, Eduardo.
ralph says
Let’s look at the bright side: When the Muslims cut off her head her appearance will be markedly improved. Her mental functioning, too.
Peter WF says
She is welcome to live in a musilim country and try it out.
How many “refugees has the pope settled in the vatican?
tim gallagher says
I agree with the commenters above who point out what an imbecile Brunne seems to be. Certainly, as a lesbian, she wouldn’t last long if she tried to live in a Muslim country. And yet she carries on with how much she feels she has in common with her beloved Muslims. What a fool. Most of these Muslims that she thinks she can relate to so well probably want to have her killed for being a lesbian. She may go around hating hardline Christians, but none of them will want her killed for being gay. Muslims will. Something that I find unbelievably stupid in what she says is the way she says that Christians carried out the Crusades and burned witches. I think the Crusades were necessary and a good thing. But both the Crusades and witch burning were ages ago, whereas the Muslims are still, right now, carrying out terrorist attacks and other barbaric atrocities. So what she says on that issue is unbelievably stupid. I doubt whether she is a Christian believer at all. Probably doesn’t believe in basic beliefs like the existence of an afterlife or that Jesus truly rose from the dead, etc. I suspect she is just a non-believing leftie. Such people should pack up and leave the Christian churches. They are hypocrites for staying in their positions in the churches. If they no longer believe in the basics of Christianity, then they should leave the church. Yet many of them seem to stay on in the churches. I suspect she has the usual hierarchy of leftie causes. Hence, white western people are worse than non-whites. Muslims are somehow victims and so they are preferred by people like her over white and Christian people and so on.
joanofark06 says
“I doubt whether she is a Christian believer at all.”
You doubt she is? Duh…
Darrell Lynch says
Well, ha, ha to her! She is a total fool, who has obviously never read and of the muslim books, or paid attention to world events. All I will say is, when the scum of the Earth take over Sweden, they will know exactly what to do with her, and her sick type.Oh, yes, they sure will!
Michael Poulin says
I wrote to the Cracker Jack company suggesting they put in more peanuts and less theology degrees….
joanofark06 says
LOL…wow, good one!
Giacomo Latta says
Just one more reason to have the separation of church (all religions and pseudo-religions) and state. It appears this concept has either disappeared or has never existed in our democracies. Everyone who uses the word ”religion” when criticizing islam is actually giving it credibility. I suspect it is all the tax benefits given to anything that calls itself a religion. Putting your democracy at risk just to save your social club a few pennies is despicable.
joanofark06 says
I understand what your saying, but I myself, have always thought of it, as a religion, because:
They have a mosque that they all go to, to pray and learn about their “god” or “prophet” (Or learn how to be extremists, I wouldn’t know)
They have a “god”, that they pray to, ignorantly 5 times a day.
And they have a “book”, where they learn what their “god” or whatever, tells them everything they need to do, how to do it, like which hand to wipe their butt with, who and what to kill, etc etc..
Christians, have a church, a bible, and a “God”….and muslims have a “building”, a “book”, and a “god”, now how is islam not a “religion”, when christianity is?
joanofark06 says
So which “book”, would she teach or learn anything from? The koran I’m assuming.. Apparently not the bible!
But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
1 Timothy 2:12
gravenimage says
Joan, surely commenting on-line is a type of teaching? I’m glad you don’t feel you have to be silent here.
RickeyD says
The Bishop of Stockholm speaks much Truth when she says she has more in common w/Islam than conservative Christians. Lesbianism and Islam are ideologies emanating from the same spirit, Satan, and there truly is no differentiation in Eternity/judgment. https://rickeyholtsclaw.com/2017/09/27/in-the-beginning-god-why/
CTTV15@Hotmail.com says
Well, she is correct, and she is telling the TRUTH.. But, she is not a Christian.. Not at all.
b.a. freeman says
… went on to add that Christians have their own extremists, mentioning the Crusades and the witch burnings that took place hundreds of years ago.
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granting, for the sake of argument, that christians invaded the levant in the crusades and killed muslims without reason (which is a *LIE*), “bishop” brunne should quote the book, chapter, and verse of the christian scriptures that commanded those christian “extremists” of long ago to murder innocent muslims and burn witches. as a supposed christian leader, she should know the Word, which teaches that we are *ALL* sinners, and will all go to our graves sinning in spite of our best efforts, only able to stop when we rely on the Lord. of *COURSE* there have been those who called themselves christian – in fact, many who were without a doubt christian – who did not know the scriptures, because they trusted others to tell them what was in the scriptures, and who therefore believed in killing non-christians because that is what they were told by their church “leaders.” it is even relatively easy to find such people today, but it is *VITAL* to remember that *THE SCRIPTURES DO NOT COMMAND CHRISTIANS TO KILL ANYBODY*; in fact, they are commanded to *NOT* kill people. thus, christians who kill non-christians are *SINNING* – they are doing what Christ told them *NOT* to do!
now let us look at islam, whose scriptures comprise the quran, the kutub alsittah, and the sira; let’s *NOT* look at what any muslim has ever done. here we find command after command to kill kuffar, rob them, enslave them, rape them. kuffar have no more standing in sharia than a mule would in a u.s. federal court. pious muslims are bigoted, hateful, and criminal, and are *eager* to kill kuffar … because they are ordered to do so over and over by their scriptures. only *bad* muslims can be good citizens of any nation; good muslims make good soldiers of the caliphate … or excellent criminals in kuffar countries. best of all, from the perspective of the hard-core left, pious muslims, making up roughly 10% of all muslims, make a perfect proxy army to destabilize whatever westernized republic they enter; all the blame for random attacks on innocents falls on the pious muslims rather than the left, and because only being killed in battle with kuffar *guarantees* entry into jannah, pious muslims are *eager* to die in such attacks. the left need only provide public relations for muslims in general in order to ensure that the attacks will continue to occur.
this airhead has obviously never examined the scriptures of islam; she takes the word of the local imam that islam is just another approach to God. worst of all, she is either ignorant of her own supposed relilgion, or is actively lying about it (no doubt to placate “southerners” and prevent evil right-winger christians from coming to the wrong conclusion about them and their “faith”). from every possible perspective, this womain is, at best, an incompetent, naive nominal leftist; at worst, she is a traitor, a wolf in sheep’s clothing, busily misleading the few remaining faithful, and covering for the attacks of pious muslims. i rather suspect that it is the latter.