“Svante Lundgren, an associate professor in Judaism at CTR, the centre of theology and religion at Lund University, admitted in December of 2017 that migration from countries in the Middle East with a history of antisemitism fuelled the rise of incidents in the city. ‘Of course it is so that most people with this background are not antisemitic but there is a group that is, and then they have brought their hatred away from home. In Malmö, we have a large part of the population who are from abroad, and in many places, there are social problems,’ Lundgren said.”
Of course there are, and there will be more in the future. This is because the Qur’an demonizes the Jews in numerous ways. It depicts the Jews as inveterately evil and bent on destroying the well-being of the Muslims. They are the strongest of all people in enmity toward the Muslims (5:82); they fabricate things and falsely ascribe them to Allah (2:79; 3:75, 3:181); they claim that Allah’s power is limited (5:64); they love to listen to lies (5:41); they disobey Allah and never observe his commands (5:13). They are disputing and quarreling (2:247); hiding the truth and misleading people (3:78); staging rebellion against the prophets and rejecting their guidance (2:55); being hypocritical (2:14, 2:44); giving preference to their own interests over the teachings of Muhammad (2:87); wishing evil for people and trying to mislead them (2:109); feeling pain when others are happy or fortunate (3:120); being arrogant about their being Allah’s beloved people (5:18); devouring people’s wealth by subterfuge (4:161); slandering the true religion and being cursed by Allah (4:46); killing the prophets (2:61); being merciless and heartless (2:74); never keeping their promises or fulfilling their words (2:100); being unrestrained in committing sins (5:79); being cowardly (59:13-14); being miserly (4:53); being transformed into apes and pigs for breaking the Sabbath (2:63-65; 5:59-60; 7:166); and more. They are under Allah’s curse (9:30), and Muslims should wage war against them and subjugate them under Islamic hegemony (9:29).
“Claim: Multicultural Malmö a ‘No-Go Zone’ for Jews,” by Chris Tomlinson, Breitbart, June 26, 2019:
The Jewish congregation of the southern Swedish city of Malmö has warned that rising antisemitism is turning the city into a no-go zone for Jews.
The congregation sent a letter to the city, warning that the numbers of Jews have decreased dramatically from 842 members in 1999 to 387 members in 2019 and runs the risk of disappearing entirely in the future, Nyheter Idag reports.
“The Jewish congregation will soon disappear if nothing is done drastically. Malmö is already a no-go zone for Jews around the world. When Malmö is mentioned in the media around the world, it is far too often related to antisemitism. A Google search for ‘antisemitism Malmö’ gives 215,000 hits. Unfortunately, current initiatives are not enough,” the congregation said.
Svante Lundgren, an associate professor in Judaism at CTR, the centre of theology and religion at Lund University, admitted in December of 2017 that migration from countries in the Middle East with a history of antisemitism fuelled the rise of incidents in the city.
“Of course it is so that most people with this background are not antisemitic but there is a group that is, and then they have brought their hatred away from home. In Malmö, we have a large part of the population who are from abroad, and in many places, there are social problems,” Lundgren said….
Nate Walters says
I had to laugh. “Most people with this background are not anti Semitic.” Lmfao of course they are. It is built right into the DNA of Islam.
Jon Sobieski says
It is also obvious that the vast majority of Jews in Malmo vote for parties that are big on importing muslims. To do otherwise is to be racist.
ElderlyZionist says
Do they? Jews have never been especially welcome in Sweden. There are about 350 Jews in Malmo, maybe 20,000 in the whole country. How much difference do you think their votes make?
gravenimage says
ElderlyZionist, Sweden saved virtually the entire Jews population of Denmark from the Nazis during WWII. I’d say *that* was welcoming.
ElderlyZionist says
gravenimage, Sweden has always restricted Jewish immigration. That’s why there were and are so few Jews in Sweden. During the Holocaust, Sweden gave refuge to about 8,000 Danish Jews, and about 500 Norwegian Jews, which amounted to nearly the entire Jewish population of those countries. Norway and Denmark also historically restricted Jewish immigration. The Swedes kept their country closed to 3,000,000 Polish Jews. In this they were no worse and no better than other European neutral countries.
gravenimage says
I know this history, ElderlyZionist. I just say credit where it is due.
Kip Russell says
“It is also obvious that the vast majority of Jews in Malmo vote for parties that are big on importing muslims.” All 387 of them? Also, why is that obvious?
Dj Barry says
Jews are importing their own demise with their assinine votes.
DP111 says
“Most people with this background are not anti Semitic.”
Still in denial.
CRUSADER says
Opinion | The Uncomfortable Truth About Swedish Anti-Semitism –
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/14/opinion/sweden-antisemitism-jews.html
Dec 14, 2017 – For Sweden’s 18,000 Jews, sadly, none of this comes as a surprise. … Swedish politicians have no problem condemning anti-Semitism carried out by right- wingers.
CRUSADER says
What the “Atlantic” magazine said in 2015 about:
=====================================
“Why the Muslim ‘No-Go-Zone’ Myth Won’t Die —
(There’s no evidence of extremist takeover of areas in Europe or the United States. So why do the claims continue?)”
****
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2015/01/paris-mayor-to-sue-fox-over-no-go-zone-comments/384656/
Have you heard about the areas of Europe, or perhaps even of the United States, that are run by jihadists and which non-Muslims can’t even enter?
Don’t get too worried if you haven’t: They don’t exist.
Or maybe you have, if you watch Fox News or read snippets of Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal’s speech about Islamic extremism. While politics is rife with falsehoods, myths, and baseless rumors, it’s often tough to see exactly where a claim comes from, and how it reaches a wider audience—including, for example, a Republican governor with apparent presidential aspirations and a reputation as a sober policy wonk.
Here, however, it’s possible to follow forensic traces and see how some small elements of truth metastasized into an outlandish claim.
Here’s what Jindal said, via CNN:
” In the West, non-assimilationist Muslims establish enclaves and carry out as much of Sharia law as they can without regard for the laws of the democratic countries which provided them a new home …. It is startling to think that any country would allow, even unofficially, for a so called “no-go zone.” The idea that a free country would allow for specific areas of its country to operate in an autonomous way that is not free and is in direct opposition to its laws is hard to fathom. ”
When CNN reporter Max Foster pressed him on this passage after the speech, Jindal couldn’t name any specific instances. But he pointed to a report in the famously unreliable tabloid Daily Mail, and couched his refusal to back down as bold truth-telling: “I think that the radical Left absolutely wants to pretend like this problem is not here. Pretending it’s not here won’t make it go away.”
Jindal’s claim was particularly brazen because it came just a day after Fox News apologized for a comment an alleged expert made on air. Steve Emerson, who analyzes terrorism for the network, said on Fox News Sunday, “There are actual cities like Birmingham that are totally Muslim, where non-Muslims just simply don’t go in.” British Prime Minister David Cameron ripped Emerson as only an old Etonian can: “When I heard this, frankly, I choked on my porridge and I thought it must be April Fools’ Day. This guy’s clearly a complete idiot.” Emerson apologized, but other Fox personalities repeated variations on the theme, and eventually Fox issued on-air corrections on both Fox & Friends and Justice With Judge Jeanne.
Fox isn’t known for shying away from controversial claims, so the decision to move so aggressively to reverse is an indicator of how wrong the claim is. Of course, that came after several days of Fox personalities repeating the claim casually on air. (The retraction didn’t come in time for one group, apparently: Paris’ mayor said Tuesday that Paris would sue Fox News for sullying its image.)
BUT where did the claim come from in the first place?
Like many political myths, there’s a partial basis in fact that has become exaggerated into a hyperbolic and, in this case, inflammatory and dangerous claim.
It seems to stem from two or maybe three real phenomena.
The first is the presence of sharia courts in some places in Europe. In the United Kingdom, for example, “Muslim Arbitration Tribunals” are officially mandated but set up outside the court system and can resolve civil and family issues through Islamic law; there are also reports of informal religious courts. There are similar Jewish courts in Britain, and the Muslim tribunals have received encouragement from figures including then-Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams. On the other hand, there are convincing arguments that the courts can sometimes be bad for women. (There’s a fascinating echo of the Ottoman empire’s “millet” system, in which non-Muslims were allowed to set up their own courts to deal with matters of personal law.)
The second real phenomena is the rise of vigilante sharia squads in some places. For example, in Whitechapel, East London, CNN reported on bands of Muslim men who try to keep alcohol out of the area and harangue passers-by about morality. RedState’s Erick Erickson thinks he’s caught CNN red-handed: While the network criticizes Jindal for not knowing of any real no-go zones, CNN itself reported on one! But the analogy doesn’t quite hold. What’s happening here is disturbing, but well-short of extremist-run enclaves. These are just ad-hoc groups, and area Muslims by and large condemn it in CNN’s reporting. There’s no evidence that these squads are powerful or widespread.
The third factor is what are known as “Zones Urbaines Sensibles,” or “sensitive urban zones,” in France. These areas are defined by their socioeconomic status—they’re characterized by high unemployment, high rates of public housing, and low educational attainment. As it happens, many of these areas are populated largely by poor immigrants from the Muslim world, creating a neat but misleading correlation. Some of the “no-go” coverage has suggested that police and other emergency services dare not go into these areas. The United States is sadly not immune to dangerous city areas where emergency-service providers feel unsafe, so in that way this is a universal phenomenon. But as BusinessWeek notes, it’s not the case that the government has written these zones off; in fact, they’ve been designated for further attention and work on urban renewal.
These factors seem to have combined to create the no-go-zone myth.
Daniel Pipes, an often-inflammatory critic of Islam, seems to be patient zero for the meme. In 2006, he coined the phrase “no-go zones” to describe the SUZs, but after visiting in 2013, Pipes revised his views:
“For a visiting American, these areas are very mild, even dull. We who know the Bronx and Detroit expect urban hell in Europe too, but there things look fine. The immigrant areas are hardly beautiful, but buildings are intact, greenery abounds, and order prevails. These are not full-fledged no-go zones but, as the French nomenclature accurately indicates, “sensitive urban zones.” In normal times, they are unthreatening, routine places. But they do unpredictably erupt, with car burnings, attacks on representatives of the state (including police), and riots. Having this first-hand experience, I regret having called these areas no-go zones.”
Yet contacted by BusinessWeek last week, he again affirmed that there are no-go zones in Europe. I’ve asked Pipes to explain his re-reversal and haven’t yet heard back, but I’ll update if I do.
If you dig through the fever swamps of the Internet, you can see the idea spreading since then. For example, the blog “Violence Against Whites” chronicles the SUZs and other alleged no-go zones across Western Europe. (Other material on the site includes claims that Boers were ethnically cleansed in South Africa and a section on “white martyrs.”) Catholic.org reports, “These areas are Muslim-dominated neighborhoods. Non-Muslims dare not set foot into the areas.”
Meanwhile, the meme can be seen extending to the United States.
Truth Uncensored reports, incorrectly, that there are no-go zones stateside, including in places like Dearborn, Michigan, a Detroit suburb with a large Muslim population. Conservative Tribune even posts a map that allegedly shows no-go zones controlled by Islamists across the United States. I can’t tell where the map originally came from, but it cites data from Steven Emerson, the Fox expert who apologized for his no-go-zone comments. And the map is posted elsewhere on the Internet, labeled as everything from a map of terrorist camps (apparently al-Qaeda is big in Boca Raton—alert your grandparents!) to areas with concentrated Muslim populations.
Bottom line:
You don’t need to worry about Muslim no-go zones if you live in the United States. And if you’re planning a tourist expedition to Europe, it’s a good idea to avoid high-crime areas, regardless of their demographics.
But why, if there’s no evidence for no-go zones and some of the highest-profile propagators of the idea have repudiated it, do such myths survive and thrive?
It probably has a lot to do with the conservative media ecosystem. Erroneous beliefs such as these tend to concentrate along people’s partisan or ideological axes. (The same is true of liberal media, though not in this particular case.) And once an idea has taken seed, it’s extremely difficult to root out. As political scientists Brendan Nyhan and Jason Reifler have shown, corrections can actually backfire, increasing holders’ faith in their incorrect beliefs.
Unfortunately, even reporting on these misconceptions can worsen the problem, so I am part of the problem.
But it seems important to note that Jindal is plainly wrong. These sorts of distortions and exaggerations don’t help to fight the very real threat of Islamist terror. They don’t serve the cause of creating an informed, reasoned democratic society. And they don’t help the political prospects of guys like Jindal, who has previously demanded that his GOP stop being “the stupid party.”
Maybe this meme is the real no-go zone.
(ATLANTIC)
smooth lee says
No-go zone doesn’t necessarily mean non-Muslims can’t go there. But: If your gay, you don’t dare walk through a Muslim neighborhood holding hands and being all intimate with your partner; you don’t walk through a no-go zone smoking or drinking alcohol; women do not walk there wearing crotch-tight mini-shorts and tank tops; no walking dogs there; and, NO NO NO Christian (or any other faiths) evangelism/openly wearing a crucifix.
CRUSADER says
More like an “open sesame” situation whereby the scenario is that kufars are beckoned into the zones and then….devoured!
gravenimage says
+1
Westman says
Perhaps the author this 2015 Atlantic piece could don a yarmulke, walk through the Muslim enclave of Malmo, and then report on the experience. The Atlantic has always been big on intellectualism and short on experience. Would they have the integrity and courage to walk the talk?
smooth lee says
A solution:
https://giphy.com/gifs/HhTXt43pk1I1W
CRUSADER says
Couldn’t open.
What’s the solution, in a synopsis?
smooth lee says
I clicked the link on here and it came up. Try copy and paste.
CRUSADER says
oh….
…well
gravenimage says
The suggestion here seems to be nuking the victims. Possibly not the best solution…
Dennis says
As has been stated by others, Europe is replacing its very peaceful, productive and industrious Jewish population with an Islamic population that has among them those who would cause their built in hate to become violent to all non-Islamic believers, especially those of Jewish persuasion, instead substituting the aforementioned people with a people who will dominate, act aggressively, contribute little to, in this case Sweden’s society, and generally cause much difficulty in that nation. They are allowing Hitler’s madness to reach fruition, a result that will soon be intolerable for that nation. Until their leaders realize the cancer that is now among them, the condition will continue to metastasize.
gravenimage says
Yes–suicidal insanity.
Angemon says
Citation needed.
ElderlyZionist says
It’s sadly ironic that the Malmo synagogue (pictured) was built in a Moorish style.
gravenimage says
Sweden: Jewish congregation in Muslim-dominated Malmö says city is “already a no-go zone for Jews”
…………………
Malmö was where most Danish Jews rescued from the Nazis found sanctuary with the large and welcoming Swedish Jewish community. That things have now been allowed to change so much…
CRUSADER says
“NEVER AGAIN …IS….NOW !!!!”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f64VhhRm6Hs
John Magee says
Where is Barbara Spectre these days? She used to brag about how Jews would be a major force helping to create a new multicultural Europe. Now that her plan isn’t working and people have been killed and violence is overwhelming once peaceful Swedish cities like Malmö isn’t it a fair question to demand to know where is she hiding? I want someone to ask her what she has to say about her part in the destruction of Sweden.
Angemon says
I’m pretty sure she, like the special sort of lunatic she is, is seeing her ideas not working and, after devoting a very considerable amount of time and effort thinking things through, she concluded that the solution for the problem is more implementation of her ideas. Because if hitting yourself in the head with a hammer to cure a headache is only making it worse, then you’re not hitting yourself hard enough…
CRUSADER says
Barbara Lerner Spectre calls for destruction of Christian European ethnic societies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G45WthPTo24
CRUSADER says
Armenian Genocide denial —
Spectre wrote a 2007 article for the National Review titled “History Speaks: The moral case against the Armenian Genocide resolution” where she argued the Armenian Genocide never happened and Armenians need to accept responsibility for causing Turkish-led massacres against them during World War 1. She further compared Armenians to Palestinians because they are “incompetent at governing” and “achieve great success as propagandists”.
Spectre:
The bottom line here is that in actual historical fact, Turks were not like Nazis; Armenians were not like Jews; and attempts to convince Americans that they were are propaganda, not history. The Armenian tragedy was real and terrible, but it was not the only terrible tragedy in Turkey in 1915 and it wasn’t genocide; it was that in the midst of a wider war that brought death and destruction to millions on all sides, nationalist Armenians fought a war to claim a piece of Turkey for a country of their own, and lost. Later, they got a state of their own, but its development has been stunted from that day to this by high levels of poverty, corruption and political violence. If Armenians would accept their share of responsibility for the tragedies of 1915, trade with their increasingly prosperous Turkish neighbors could do much to alleviate that poverty. Some in Armenia have long wanted to do that, but most government leaders — and the powerful Armenian diaspora community those leaders rely on — have always insisted, instead, on demonizing Turks and whitewashing all Armenian actions in World War I. And, although they proved incompetent at governing, they achieved great success as propagandists. In this, Armenians are very similar to Palestinians; very different from both Jews and Turks.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Lerner_Spectre
What an awful woman!
Obviously, Spectre is well named, and she needs to view the movie “THE PROMISE”:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwut1DUXaZc
infidel says
Forget about Malmo which is 3rd party country to Jews.. Here in our own country India, we Hindus are excluded from many Muslim only ghetto areas……where as usual, even the police shrink from going…