What will Humanists UK and the Leicester City Council do when they find out that this is just standard, Qur’anic Islam? The death penalty for apostasy is part of Islamic law. It’s based on the Qur’an: “They wish you would disbelieve as they disbelieved so you would be alike. So do not take from among them allies until they emigrate for the cause of Allah. But if they turn away, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them and take not from among them any ally or helper.” (Qur’an 4:89)
A hadith depicts Muhammad saying: “Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him” (Bukhari 9.84.57). The death penalty for apostasy is part of Islamic law according to all the schools of Islamic jurisprudence.
This is still the position of all the schools of Islamic jurisprudence, both Sunni and Shi’ite. Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi, the most renowned and prominent Muslim cleric in the world, has stated: “The Muslim jurists are unanimous that apostates must be punished, yet they differ as to determining the kind of punishment to be inflicted upon them. The majority of them, including the four main schools of jurisprudence (Hanafi, Maliki, Shafi’i, and Hanbali) as well as the other four schools of jurisprudence (the four Shiite schools of Az-Zaidiyyah, Al-Ithna-‘ashriyyah, Al-Ja’fariyyah, and Az-Zaheriyyah) agree that apostates must be executed.”
Qaradawi also once famously said: “If they had gotten rid of the apostasy punishment, Islam wouldn’t exist today.”
“Humanists UK calls for Leicester Assistant City Mayor to be investigated after revealing links to extremist and anti-apostate Islamic Centre,” Humanists UK, June 28, 2019 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
Humanists UK has exposed Cllr Mustafa Malik, Assistant City Mayor at Leicester City Council, as a trustee and member of the Management Council of the Islamic Centre Leicester, which shares dangerous anti-apostate and homophobic rhetoric, following a tip off from a whistle-blower. It is calling on Leicester City Council to investigate Mustafa Malik.
The Islamic Centre Leicester’s website alarmingly includes content stating that ‘an apostate does not have the right to life’. This is stated in a section on its website on the Sociology of Education and is originally taken from the Risale-i Nur Collection. It disregards international human rights to freedom of religion or belief. It states:
‘An apostate does not have the right to life. For his conscience is corrupted and he becomes like poison in the life of society’….
bob says
Does this surprise some?? Not me!! Millions are leaving! Why?? Read the title!!
Christianblood says
It is only a matter of time before Islam take over the West and Sharia law is fully implemented with all its satanic barbarities and savagery like murdering apostates!
Below a Danish public school openly indoctrinates and forces its young non-muslim students to perform islamic ritual prayers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-v_OeQt6Tk
Angemon says
“It is only a matter of time before Islam take over the West”
You’ve been saying this for years now – alongside with something along the lines of “that’s exactly what the West deserves”…
Laurie says
WE CERTAINLY DO NOT DESERVE THIS. this was instigated by and enforced by the shitty so called govt and has nothing to do with almost all canadians.
gravenimage says
christianblood keeps calling for the Muslim conquest of the West. Too bad for him–many of us are resisting that.
CRUSADER says
Why would “christianblood” be against Muslim incursions into Russia
but be for Muslim incursions into the West? Doesn’t his logic get it that
after the West, Russia will be next on the Muslim list to where to invade,
infiltrate, alter, destroy, etc?
gravenimage says
Oddly, CRUSADER, when I have expressed concern for Russians with Muslims flooding in there, christianblood has said that Muslim invaders, Shari’ah law, and even Jihad terror attacks are not a threat to Russia–but that gay parades in the West *are*.
I have–as you yourself note–said what a threat a West conquered by Muslims and a Russia overtaken with hordes of Muslims would present to Russian people, including Christians, but christianblood says that he does not care.
My guess is that he hates the West so much that he does not care what happens to Russians so long as the West is destroyed.
For myself, I don’t want to see anyone fall victim to the horrors of Islam.
christianblood says
CRUSADER
False projection:
Never Russia! Russia is spiritually alive! The West is spiritually dead!
And this is way. Watch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=KYnphmKkOhU
Angemon says
“Never Russia! Russia is spiritually alive! ”
Really? How big is the church attendance rate in Russia?
christianblood says
CRUSADER
Russians know how to fight and defend themselves. This is what happens to islamist gangs when they raise their ugly head in Russian streets. No need to call 9/11! Watch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsIykHP_D_U
Angemon says
“Russians know how to fight and defend themselves. This is what happens to islamist gangs when they raise their ugly head in Russian streets”
Ah, that must be why there’s an ongoing islamic rebellion in Chechnya, with two open wars in the last twenty or so years, wars that required the bribing of the rebelious leaders by making them leaders of a de facto sharia state… Nothing shows that you have everything under control like turning someone who said “kill as many Russians as you can” into a national hero… The worst part about this madness is that the Chechen cancer spreads around – while ISIS had foot-soldiers coming from all around the world, officials and decision-makers were, mostly, from two groups: former Saddamites and Chechens.
BTW, I’ve asked you several times and you have yet to answer: what, exactly, is an “islamist”?
CRUSADER says
I would rather have seen the Churches of the West Latin and East Orthodox merged than divided and eaten away at, as occurred during and after the Schism! So, why keep attacking the spirit of the West? Why not reach a hand of support and bring your best to bear, “christianblood”, to see that the scourge of Islam does not continue to spread its dread — because that is the existential threat to society! The Leftism and Liberalism and Globalism infecting the West can subside as long as those who know how to survive against Shaytan in the form of Islam can be brought to the front lines in order to eliminate the bigger threat. The other considerations of moral decay can be addressed at a later point, “christianblood”, but let’s focus on the threat the West and East share — Islam’s incursions and infiltrations.
gravenimage says
Agreed, CRUSADER–we need to stand together against the threat of Islam.
Christianblood says
CRUSADER
YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND!!!!
THE CRITICAL POINT IS THIS: THE WEST IS ENABLING AN ISLAMIST TAKEOVER OF THE WESTERN WORLD! DON’T YOOOUUUUUU SEE THAT???????????????
THIS IS FRUSTRATING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Angemon says
christianblood posted:
“THE WEST IS ENABLING AN ISLAMIST TAKEOVER OF THE WESTERN WORLD!”
Citation needed. Let’s take a look at, for example, Hezbollah, which has ties all around the world, undoubtedly thanks to its Iranian overlords. Where, exactly, fits “THE WEST” in there, other than being its victims?
Christianblood says
CRUSADER posted
(…Why keep attacking the spirit of the West?…)
Because the spirit of West is a satanic, LGBTQ, pro-Islamist and Anti-Christian spirit! The West hates Christians, supports LGBTQ degeneracy world-wide and seeks the extermination of Christians/Christianity! The satanic, pro-Islamist West has now reached a point where they are enforcing islamic prayers on small school kids, commanding them to scream allahu akbar! Cant you see this? Watch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-v_OeQt6Tk
Angemon says
christianblood posted:
“Because the spirit of West is a satanic,”
Talk about ingratitude. A no insignificant amount of money, sweat and blood of the Christian West was spent to bring down the Soviet Union, an actual evil empire that actually hated Christianity and actually persecuted Christians. What do we get for all our effort one generation later? Spit in the face, that’s it. You are truly an immoral beast, without a shred of decency or humanity, even without considering your support of jihadi groups, islamic terrorist nations, support for child murderers and covering up the persecution of Christians. What moral high-ground to pretend to have to say someone is “satanic” or “anti-Christian”, you spawn of a twisted, corrupt nation? You mockery of a man – you would have us believe that it is “Christian” to ignore the persecution of Christians, that it is “Christian” to cheer the death of innocent children, that it is “Christian” to kill people based on characteristics they have no control over. You make a mockery of Christianity. Begone, you gnashnab. You whiffle-waffling snoutband. You disgusting waste of Humanity’s resources.
christianblood says
Angemon
It is NOT about church attendance. It is about your spirit alive and knowing who YOU are!
Angemon says
“It is NOT about church attendance. It is about your spirit alive and knowing who YOU are!”
In other words: it has nothing to do with Christianity…
Angemon says
BTW, CB, what sort of spirit drives you to carry water for child murderers and persecutors of Christians while at the same time attacking those who oppose it?
gravenimage says
Fewer than 50% of Russians identify as Christian–rates much lower than in the West.
As for the Russian spirit, this includes some good traits, but also sadly includes sky-high rates of suicide, alcoholism, prostitution, and abortion.
These are problems whether found in Russia or the West or anywhere else–but the rates are much worse in Russia. For instance, Russia has the fourth highest rates of suicide in the world–the US is thirty-fourth. Russia has the fourth worst rates of alcoholism–the US is forty-eighth.
Angemon says
“Fewer than 50% of Russians identify as Christian–rates much lower than in the West. ”
My litmus test is not the percentage of self-identifiers, it’s the percentage of those who actually act on it. It’s expedient – or, in some cases, required to stay alive – to identify as the state’s suggested/mandated religion (or lack thereof).
gravenimage says
christianblood has posted this thing before, claiming that the ideal situation is to have Infidels and Muslims beating each other up in the streets.
The idea of having a civilization where you don’t have violent Muslims threatening people in the streets is something he cannot conceive of.
And then he has also posted links to the Kate Hon site many times before–they host Jihadist Sheikh Imran Nazar Hosein:
“SHEIKH IMRAN NAZAR HOSEIN – ISLAMIC ESCHATOLOGY AND ITS RELATION WITH CHRISTIAN ESCHATOLOGY”
http://katehon.com/video/sheikh-imran-nazar-hosein-islamic-eschatology-and-its-relation-christian-eschatology
Sheikh Imran Nazar Hosein is also a regular contributor to The Saker, another site christianblood links to constantly, so this is not something he might have overlooked.
Here he is, saying that Muslims “respect” Orthodox Christians and should ally with Muslims to destroy the West:
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6hk75l
Only fools would believe in this “respect”, and not realize that Muslims would target them next.
mortimer says
Mustafa Malik (Assistant City Mayor at Leicester City Council) has openly SOLICITED TO MURDER and should be sentenced to life.
The offence of SOLICITING TO MURDER is based in section 4 of the Offences against the Person Act 1861 which reads:
“… whosoever shall solicit, encourage, persuade, or endeavour to persuade, or shall propose to any person, to murder any other person, whether he be a subject of Her Majesty or not, and whether he be within the Queen’s dominions or not, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor, and being convicted thereof shall be liable … to [imprisonment for life] … “
Christianblood says
mortomeir
(..Wahabism spread in the World at the West’s request..) Saudi Crown Prince
https://timesofislamabad.com/30-Mar-2018/riyadh-spread-wahabism-in-the-world-including-pakistan-on-west-behest-admits-saudi-crown-prince
Angemon says
And I’m sure that a Saudi prince, facing heat for the acts of his subjects, would in no way lie. I mean, who ever heard of a muslim lying, am I right?
Birgitta Datta says
Lying to non-muslims is not regarded as wrong or evil by Islam.
gravenimage says
christianblood has said this before–that it was the West that has demanded that Islam be spread, and that the poor Muslims had not choice in the matter. Riiiiiiight…try again.
christianblood says
gravenimage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-zItTMZnHg
gravenimage says
How does posting a video of Indian folk dancing address the bizarre claim that it is Infidels who are spreading Islam around the world against the will of Muslims?
Of did christianblood mean to spam something else here? Who knows?
Christianblood says
gravenimage
It supposed to be was a nice break, Graven!
gravenimage says
Well, yes–it provided christianblood with a nice break–that is, distraction–from having to defend his absurd bs.
As breaks go, nice video. As defending his ridiculous calumny against the West, not so much.
mortimer says
UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS
Article 18: Right to freedom of thought and religion
Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to CHANGE HIS RELIGION or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.
CONCLUSION: 7th-century, medieval Islam is incompatible with modernity and incompatible with modern human rights.
Christianblood says
mortomeir
Prompted by Hollywood, US & Western media, academia, politicians and governments are ALL pro-islamic jihadists, pro-LGBTQ degeneracy and Ant-Christ to the core! Below, Hollywood is rewarding Syrian Al-Qaeda “White Helmets” with Oscars!
Godless, materialistic and morally bankrupt West is truly Evil and disgusting, BIG TIME!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_MZKRG3frQ
gravenimage says
christianblood has claimed before that human rights are “satanic”. Now, apparently, he is making it clear that he hates the idea of freedom of conscience, as well–just like this savage Muslim.
Who can be surprised?
Christianblood says
mortomeir
Anti-Christ, pro-Islamist, pro-jihadist West bans Christianity from its public squares while mosquing public schools for islamic prayers and buying up hijabs for islamic girls!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5ROQDscaJw
Christianblood says
mortomeir
Satanic, Anti-Christ West rewards and enables islamic jihadists world-over.
The Arab expert on political Islam below learned the nature of the pro-Islamic West after he donated his expertly written books on political Islam to Canadian libraries who then rejected his books and called him an ‘islamophope’.
Watch the video:
https://www.memri.org/reports/egyptian-canadian-writer-said-shoaib-western-imams-who-praise-islamic-caliphate-are
Christianblood says
mortomeir
It is now 20 years since the satanic, pro-islamic, degenerate West, led by the US bombed Christian Serbs in support of KLA jihadists, killing thousands of Serbs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRW30Dy1IjE
Christianblood says
mortomeir
Hundreds of Serbian Orthodox churches and monasteries are destroyed in Metohija by the KLA jihadists supported by the US, Nato and Saudi Arabia! Shame on you!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHSav7TbYBM
Angemon says
christianblood posted:
“The Arab expert on political Islam below learned the nature of the pro-Islamic West”
And then you link to a MEMRI article, despite having criticized MEMRI as being unreliable because Israel, IIRC. Now, earlier on this article you commented:
And now you’re linking to an article stating:
So, which is it, dumbass? You can’t both claim that Western governments are pro-jihadis while at the same time claiming they don’t know what islam teaches.
BTW, the man you brought up has a few choice words directed at you:
You know, seeing as you stated that you hate the West – that would include Canada – and would love to see it destroyed by islamic invaders.
Angemon says
P.S.: you want to discuss the supporting of jihadis worldwide? Let’s start with Iran, for whom you routinely carry water for and help to cover the persecution of Christians…
Christianblood says
BVC
You FOOL, Western kids in public schools are being forced to pray Islamic ritual prayers by their teachers and you have nothing to say about it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-v_OeQt6Tk
Angemon says
christianblood posted:
“Western kids in public schools are being forced to pray Islamic ritual prayers by their teachers”
Are you saying that, were I to enter any school in any Western nation at any given time, I would find children being forced to pray islamic prayers? Yes or No?
gravenimage says
Of course, Said Shoaib is not calling for the conquest of the West by Muslims as christianblood regularly does.
And this Islamophilic cluelessness in the Danish school is appalling.
christianblood, however, *praises* Shari’ah law in Chechnya–and this of course included Islam being taught in the schools there:
“Islam comes to the classroom in Russia’s Chechnya”
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-chechnya-islam/islam-comes-to-the-classroom-in-russias-chechnya-idUSBRE89L0BQ20121022
Although officially not mandatory, students and teachers say all pupils are obliged to take the course on Islam, which focuses on the history of Islam and how to behave as a Muslim. Russian media reported that between 99 percent and 100 percent of Chechen students are taking the class.
“A school should provide a secular education, that is what a school is for, and all the more Russian schools,” said one teacher at the school who declined to give her name for fear of retribution for speaking out against Kadyrov’s policies.
…
Note that this includes Christian and secular students. Will christianblood say anything critical about this? Don’t hold your breath.
gravenimage says
Good posts, Angemon.
Alan McCammon says
I hope he gets banned from holding any public office for life.
Jeff says
Where are the European hate speech police? Oh ya they’re too busy arresting their own citizens for liking and sharing conservative Facebook posts they disagree with.
abad says
I take it the liberal elite in the UK is perfectly OK with fatwas even though they claim to be anti-capital punishment and anti-death penalty?
That’s the crown of hypocrisy and why the liberal elite, much like the Moslems they admire, are never to be trusted.
gravenimage says
UK: Islamic Center Leicester says “an apostate does not have right to life,” mosque trustee is Assistant City Mayor
…………………
Suicidal insanity.
Georg says
“But if they turn away, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them and take not from among them any ally or helper.” (Qur’an 4:89)
The Islamic concept that all humans are born Muslim, and thus those raised in another religion converting to Islam are “reverts” justifies, from a Koranic line of argumentation, the annihilation of all non-Muslims. Should Muslims succeed in taking over Europe, with its nuclear arsenals, these aspects of Islam will become more than embarrassing curiosities pondered by the occasional Islamophobe.
gravenimage says
Yes–important point, Georg.
Kafir doesn’t just mean non-Muslim–it means *concealer* of the truth. Muslims believe this even of Infidels who have never heard of Islam.
Laurie says
if no one has the right to live besides the muslims, according to them, then they definitely do not desesrve to live amongst us and lie, destroy and manipulate for their good and no other or live period.