Five years. And he will be out way before that. What will be done in prison to disabuse him of his jihadist sentiments? Nothing, of course. To do anything like that would be “Islamophobic.”
“Hunting knife jihad plotter jailed,” CPS.gov, June 28, 2019:
A teenager who planned to carry out a terrorist outrage in London using a hunting knife, or else use the knife to steal a Rolex to fund his travel to Syria has been sentenced to five years in prison today (28 June).
Haider Ahmed, bought a 15-inch hunting knife for £25 and had it delivered to his parents’ home in Surrey where he was living.
He was prosecuted by the CPS Counter Terrorism Division who said Ahmed had viewed violent propaganda videos to prepare for an attack.
The videos included a Daesh-produced film he downloaded in June 2017 showing how to carry out a so-called “lone wolf” attack. It featured advice on where to stab someone and gave recommendations of the type of knife to use, which turned to be similar to the one in Ahmed’s possession.
After his arrest Ahmed said he wanted the weapon because he had an interest in knives and was afraid of being hurt by a boy at his school. Police found no evidence to support that claim.
The CPS told Kingston Crown Court that Ahmed, who is now 19, had already pleaded guilty to helping a man in Nigeria get to Libya to fight for Daesh. In April 2016, after the man arrived in Libya, he sent Ahmed photos which the teenager had requested. Ahmed told him they both dreamed of going to the area to fight but the other got there first. It showed that Ahmed also wanted to travel….
CRUSADER says
That’s it. I’m augmenting my wardrobe with leatherneck collars and dragonskin light weight chest armor plating….
CRUSADER says
Heck, I already walk around in public with eye protection and a long visor cap on my noggin, to fray away any splash from acid spraying….
And I wear gloves, and closed toe shoes with metal tips.
t. says
The look on his face in the photo above, speaks voulmes!
t. says
Volumes not voulmes.
lebel says
“Five years. And he will be out way before that.”
Agreed, much tougher sentence needed here.
Angemon says
“Terrorism”? That’s not how you spell treason…
DHazard says
A five year sentence in this case is basically saying, “You didn’t get it right the first time, but in 5 years of less you’ll get a second chance”.
It has always seemed to me that the serious intention to kill someone be considered by the courts as just a hair short of murder. In the U.S., failed hit jobs usually end up with decades long sentences. This is preventive justice and is a responsible deterrent to second hand killers.
Jayell says
It looks like his plans might have ended up as premeditated murder, so that’s how.he should have been charged. 70 years ago that could have meant the death sentence.
gravenimage says
UK: Muslim teen plotted lone wolf jihad massacre with hunting knife
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A five year sentence for plotting mass murder is absurd.
Mr. Cohen says
In year 1952 Winston Churchill said:
“What other nation in history, when it became
supremely powerful, had no thought of
territorial aggrandizement, no ambition but to
use its resources for the good of the world?
I marvel at America’s altruism,
her sublime disinterestedness.”
SOURCE:
Churchill and America (page 405) by Martin Gilbert, year 2005
Mr. Cohen says
A few years back, I heard Christian pastor John Hagee,
founder of Christians United for Israel, proclaim:
Where are the nations that have persecuted the Jewish people?
Where is Pharaoh and his army?
Where are the Babylonians?
Where are the Greeks?
Where is the Ottoman Empire?
Where are the Romans?
Where is that goose-stepping lunatic Adolf Hitler and his Nazi hoards?
All are historic footnotes in the boneyard of human history.
Where is Israel?
Where are the Jewish people?
They are alive and well; they are thriving; they are prospering;
they are growing… they are still going forward.
SOURCE:
Is there a New Biblical Commandment to Devolve?
by Juda Engelmayer, The Jewish Star newspaper,
2012 May 24, page 1 * http://www.thejewishstar.com
Mr. Cohen says
When the German publishers of The Hobbit
wrote to [Professor J. R. R.] Tolkien in [year] 1938 [CE]
asking if he was of arisch (Aryan) origins,
and could prove it, he refused to do so,
indignantly replying that:
“If I am to understand that you are enquiring
whether I am of Jewish origin, I can only
reply that I regret that I appear to have
no ancestors of that gifted people.”
SOURCE: Defending Middle-Earth
(chapter 2, page 39) by Patrick Curry, year 2004 CE,
Houghton Mifflin Co, Boston, New York
MICROBIOGRAPHY: Professor J. R. R. Tolkien
was author of: The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings.
In year 2008, The Times ranked him sixth on a
list of the 50 greatest British writers since 1945.
He died in year 1973 at age 81.
Paul says
Further and better information here.
https://www.cps.gov.uk/cps/news/hunting-knife-jihad-plotter-jailed
He was full on. When he gets out he will be the same.
gravenimage says
Thanks for the link, Paul.
Mr. Cohen says
Martin Gilbert said:
“Internal Koranic evidence shows that the Jews of Medina
[a city now in Saudi Arabia] were steeped in rabbinical tradition.
While celebrating him [Mohammed] as an unlearned person,
the hadith [Islamic holy books] acknowledges that
Mohammed was confounded by the learned questions of these Jews.”
SOURCE: In Ishmael’s House: A History of Jews
in Muslim Lands (chapter 2, page 13) by Martin Gilbert,
year 2010, published by Yale University Press
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Martin Gilbert said:
“The conquests of Islam made Jews the subjects
of Arab and Muslim rulers in a wide swath of land,
stretching from the Atlantic coast of Morocco to
the Hindu Kush mountains of Afghanistan.
Being non-Muslims, these Jews held the inferior
status of dhimmi, which, despite giving them
protection to worship according to their own faith,
subjected them to many vexatious and
humiliating restrictions in their daily lives.”
SOURCE: In Ishmael’s House: A History of Jews
in Muslim Lands (introduction chapter, page xx) by Martin Gilbert,
year 2010, published by Yale University Press
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Martin Gilbert said:
“In the 5th century [of the Common Era] Yemen
[the land immediately south of Saudi Arabia]
adopted Judaism as its religion.
King Ab Karib Asad, the ruler of the Himyarite kingdom,
introduced the change after converting to Judaism
himself under the influence of Jews at his court.
Many south Arabian converts to Judaism followed.
Jewish rule in Yemen lasted almost 100 years.”
SOURCE: In Ishmael’s House: A History of Jews
in Muslim Lands (chapter 1, page 5) by Martin Gilbert,
year 2010, published by Yale University Press
Mr. Cohen says
Rabbi Ovadiah of Bartenura
(in a letter to his father in year 1488 August 15 CE):
“Jews in Muslim lands make themselves appear poor.
They go about like an impoverished, despised people,
with their heads bowed before Muslims.”
SOURCE: Pathway to Jerusalem:
the Travel Letters of Rabbi Ovadiah of Bartenura
(page 40) written between 1488 CE and 1490 CE
during his journey to the Holy Land, translated by
Yaakov Dovid Shulman, year 1992 CE, 93 pages,
CIS Publishers, Lakewood, New Jersey, ISBN 1-56062-130-3