Common sense. Every free society should enact similar laws. Would Britain have allowed British Nazis to return home in 1943? It wouldn’t even have been a question. But today, the idea of protecting one’s own citizens is “racist” and “Islamophobic.”
“Australian Parliament to ban Islamic State supporters from coming home,” Times of Israel, July 24, 2019:
Australia is set to pass laws as early as Wednesday that would allow the government to prevent suspected Islamic extremists from returning home for up to two years, while Australian supporters of the Islamic State terror group are demanding to be repatriated from crowded refugee camps in Syria.
The bills, based on British law, are scheduled for debate in the Senate on Wednesday after they were passed Tuesday night in the House of Representatives, where the conservative government holds a majority.
The center-left Labor Party opposition wants the legislation made more consistent with the British model, with amendments that would allow a judge rather than Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton to decide which Australians are banished. But the opposition supported the legislation in the House, indicating that their misgivings were not sufficient to attempt to block its passage.
Dutton argues he needs the flexibility to act quickly to prevent jihadists returning.
He also argues that some of Labor’s proposed amendments set the threshold for preventing Australians from returning too high.
The so-called Temporary Exclusion Order was “designed to ensure that authorities can manage these returns in a way that keeps the Australian community safe,” Dutton told Parliament….
Goofy says
To participate as an individual in warfare which is not mandated by your own government is treason. Therefore conviction for treason may be the discouragement needed to prevent these people from coming back. In general the process required to become citizen in a new country is too lax.
CRUSADER says
Were the actions by Ernest Hemingway in Spain
or by Lord Byron in Greece particularly treasonous?
CRUSADER says
This is the Australia that somehow has seen clear of political roadblocks from its past system….
Australia seems to be learning… bit by bit, but from harsh examples dealt with.
Whereas in Oklahoma, anti-Sharia legislation experienced obstruction by judgment.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-oklahoma-muslims/judge-bars-oklahoma-from-implementing-anti-sharia-law-idUSBRE97F11720130816
Nebraska attempted to implement anti-Sharia laws, yet under a system of governance which is unicameral, due to an experienced learned from Australia….
https://www.colorlines.com/articles/13-states-introduce-useless-bills-ban-sharia-law
Nebraska originally operated under a bicameral legislature, but over time dissatisfaction with the bicameral system grew. Bills were lost because the two houses could not agree on a single version. Conference committees that formed to merge the two bills coming out of each chamber often met in secret, and thus were unaccountable for their actions. Campaigns to consolidate the Nebraska Legislature into a single chamber date back as early as 1913, meeting with mixed success.
After a trip to Australia in 1931, George W. Norris, then U.S. Senator for Nebraska, campaigned for reform, arguing that the bicameral system was based on the non-democratic British House of Lords, and that it was pointless to have two bodies of people doing the same thing and hence wasting money. He specifically pointed to the example of the Australian state of Queensland, which had adopted a unicameral parliament nearly ten years before. In 1934, voters approved a constitutional amendment to take effect with the 1936 elections, abolishing the House of Representatives and granting its powers to the Senate. In Nebraska, the Legislature is also often known as “the Unicameral.”
(wikipedia)
Aussie Infidel says
Crusader, In Australia, only the state of Queensland (where I live) and the two territories (the Northern Territory and the Australian Capital Territory around Canberra), have single house or unicameral systems of government.
https://www.qld.gov.au/about/how-government-works/system-of-government
Queensland abolished its upper house in 1921 when the Labor Party effectively voted itself out of existence – which has both pros and cons.
https://www.parliament.qld.gov.au/documents/explore/education/factsheets/Factsheet_3.20_AbolitionOfTheLegislativeCouncil.pdf
All other states have bicameral parliaments with a lower house or Legislative Assembly and an upper house or Legislative Council.
Our Federal or Commonwealth Parliament has two houses – the House of Representatives and the Senate (as in the US). However, we do not have a Presidential system of governance, but rather a Westminster style government, where the Party that has a majority of members (MPs) in the House of Reps forms the government, and the leader of that Party becomes the Prime Minister. Our Head of State is the Governor General (who represents the Queen), but the position is largely a ceremonial role rather than an executive one.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_of_Australia
http://www.qld.gov.au/about/how-government-works/system-of-government
Angemon says
Good.
tim gallagher says
A few days back, here in Australia, there were reports that 41 people, ( I think that was the number) who had gone overseas to support ISIS, were already back in Australia. As one commentator said, well, are they being monitored, etc. I suppose the same is happening in every country. Apart from the danger, think of the cost involved in monitoring these people. There is plenty of concern about this and, I suspect the majority of Australians would say we don’t want any of these people back here. This two year delay is probably a reaction to public opinion. I think reports said that around 200 other former ISIS supporters were seeking to come back to Australia. I’m a big supporter of Peter Dutton. He’s not tough enough for me, with the way I see things when it comes to Islam, only people like Orban, in Hungary, are tough enough for me, but Peter Dutton is pretty good. If you read this, dumbledoresarmy, a while back, you suggested we all write to Dutton to lobby him on this issue. I’d given up months ago on writing to our politicians, but I did write to Dutton a couple of weeks back. I figured it was time to give it another shot. I said we should end Muslim migration, etc. If plenty of other Australians do lobby our politicians, we might get some tougher policies, although it hasn’t happened so far. I really hope that we can make some progress.
No Fear says
I too am a fan of Dutton. I would prefer to see Fraser Anning in fed parliament as well. Anning will not back down like the rest of the politicians.
tim gallagher says
Yes, No Fear, Peter Dutton is the best we have got in a position of power. Hastie and Bernardi are politicians I like as well. Fraser Anning spoke the truth about Islam, but I’m pretty sure that he will probably never reach a position of power. As I mentioned, I really like Orban from Hungary and his attitude to Islam. I just heard Peter Dutton interviewed on the radio and I want to correct what I said up above, based on what Dutton said in the interview. He said around 200 people had gone from Australia to join ISIS. Around 100 were killed over there. Around 80 now want to come back to Australia, not the 200 figure I mentioned up above. He did say that, of course, they aren’t sure about the numbers. He said that the 2 year delay will at least allow the government to interview the ISIS supporters who are returning, keep a check on where they are living, etc. I think Dutton would love to be able stop any of these people coming back. He said that not being able to go beyond the 2 year delay was something to do with constitutional arrangements and the delay is something that is related to what the UK does.
Bazz12 says
The Bill passed the senate yesterday, so the GG probably signed it today.
However I do not think we will take stronger action until an attack results in multiple deaths. The government does not understand that the high immigration rate has made our risk greater and anyway they do not bring their own electricity and water with them.
tim gallagher says
Bazz12, quite apart from the issue with Muslims, I agree with the issue that you are mentioning about the very high levels of migration into Australia over recent years when we haven’t built any new dams to provide the necessary water for Sydney and other cities for years and years. I know they built the desalination plant, but I can see disaster coming up in the future because of lack of water. If they want to have a bigger population, then surely our leaders need to build the necessary infrastructure, such as dams, along with roads, hospitals, etc. I am amazed at the reckless, very large increase in Australia’s population in recent times. You’re probably right about the attack, although I was watching Sky TV News last night and they had done a survey, asking people what they thought about these ISIS supporters being allowed back into Australia and, apparently, pretty well 100% said that there is no way any should be let back into Australia. I wasn’t surprised by that result.
Marigold says
They should be stopped from coming back to Australia for good in my opinion,
gravenimage says
Australia: Parliament set to ban Islamic State jihadis from returning home
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Excellent news.
Bikinis not Burkas says
For 2 years!
John says
and while your at it, Just ban islam
Linde Barrera says
I am puzzled because Islam is called “The Religion of Peace”. Muhammed said “War is deceit.” And any person who does not believe in war should be able to claim “Conscientious Objector” status. Also, whenever the monarch of Saudi Arabia feels threatened, he asks for US troops to protect him and does not have (to my knowledge) any Saudi Arabian troops in his service, which is bizarre.
So why do jihadis from Australia, UK, US or any other Western country want to return to those countries? Not only is it hypocritical to me but the possibility of doing harm to the general population of the countries they return to is real and valid. So Jihadis should not be allowed to return to their former homes. End of story.
Bikinis not Burkas says
To bring back their honed fighting skills to kill us as per Quran 8:12!
ntesdorf says
There jus a streak of Common Sense still in Australian Politics which has been lost entirely in the UK.
Bikinis not Burkas says
Steady on there, we still have the Muslim loving Greens and Labor parties!
ninetyninepct says
We have a similar law in Canada related to treason. Trudeau simply ignores Canadian laws whenever he thinks it is inconvenient.
Anton Savarese says
GOOD FOR THEM!
Anton Savarese says
GOOD FOR THEM!
In Minnesota, they are running a training ground and recruitment program for ISIS in plain sight..
See the difference?
Bikinis not Burkas says
The Federal house of representatives has voted to approve the bill, it now goes to the Senate in November for final ratification.
Bazz12 says
Passed the senate yesterday, GG probably sign it today.