Yes, we do. But how are we going to get it when Islam’s holy book contains passages like these — passages that few even dare acknowledge exist?
“And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from where they drove you out; persecution is worse than slaughter. But fight them not by the Holy Mosque until they should fight you there; then, if they fight you, kill them — such is the recompense of unbelievers, but if they give over, surely Allah is all-forgiving, all-compassionate. Fight them until there is no persecution and the religion is Allah’s; then if they give over, there shall be no enmity save for evildoers.” (Qur’an 2:191-193)
“We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve for what they have associated with Allah of which He had not sent down authority. And their refuge will be the Fire, and wretched is the residence of the wrongdoers.” (Qur’an 3:151)
“They wish that you should disbelieve as they disbelieve, and then you would be equal; therefore do not take friends from among them, until they emigrate in the way of Allah; then, if they turn their backs, seize them and kill them wherever you find them; do not take for yourselves any one of them as friend or helper.” (Qur’an 4:89)
“This is the recompense of those who fight against Allah and His Messenger, and hasten about the earth to do corruption there: they shall be killed, or crucified, or their hands and feet shall be struck off on opposite sides; or they shall be exiled from the land. That is a degradation for them in this world; and in the world to come awaits them a mighty chastisement.” (Qur’an 5:33)
“When your Lord was revealing to the angels, ‘I am with you; so confirm the believers. I shall cast terror into the hearts of the unbelievers; so strike the necks, and strike every finger of them!” (Qur’an 8:12)
“Fight them, till there is no persecution and religion is all for Allah; then if they give over, surely Allah sees the things they do.” (Qur’an 8:39)
“Make ready for them whatever force and strings of horses you can, to strike terror into the enemy of Allah and your enemy, and others besides them that you know not; Allah knows them. And whatever you spend in the way of Allah shall be repaid you in full; you will not be wronged.” (Qur’an 8:60)
“Then, when the sacred months are over, kill the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them, and confine them, and lie in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they repent, and perform the prayer, and pay the alms, then let them go their way; Allah is All-forgiving, All-compassionate.” (Qur’an 9:5)
“Fight those who believe not in Allah and the Last Day and do not forbid what Allah and His Messenger have forbidden, and do not practice the religion of truth, even if they are of the People of the Book — until they pay the jizya with willing submission and feel themselves subdued.” (Qur’an 9:29)
“Allah has bought from the believers their selves and their possessions against the gift of Paradise; they fight in the way of Allah; they kill, and are killed; that is a promise binding upon Allah in the Torah, and the Gospel, and the Koran; and who fulfils his covenant truer than Allah? So rejoice in the bargain you have made with Him; that is the mighty triumph.” (Qur’an 9:111)
“O believers, fight the unbelievers who are near to you; and let them find in you a harshness; and know that Allah is with the godfearing.” (Qur’an 9:123)
“When you meet the unbelievers, strike their necks, then, when you have made wide slaughter among them, tie fast the bonds; then set them free, either by grace or ransom, till the war lays down its loads. So it shall be; and if Allah had willed, He would have avenged Himself upon them; but that He may try some of you by means of others. And those who are slain in the way of Allah, He will not send their works astray.” (Qur’an 47:4)
Not a big deal? But how have Muslims throughout history understood these passages? They took them as meaning “My jihad is trying to make ends meet. My jihad is getting a great education,” right? Unfortunately, the historical record is not quite so full of laughter and sunshine. Find out how Muslims throughout history have actually understood the Qur’an’s exhortations to warfare in The History of Jihad From Muhammad to ISIS, which you can order here.
“‘We need a peaceful and tolerant Islam,'” by Eduard Lintner, Washington Times, July 24, 2019:
I feel very honored to be here, and I would like to express my respect for you who are working for democracy and freedom in Iran. Your movement, under the leadership of Madame Rajavi, is a democratic alternative to the mullah regime….
We should not allow the mullahs to keep us hostage and impede and hinder us in your steps forward. You are the ones who continuously fight for a free Iran, and Europe must support you. Only in this way can we achieve peace in the world[.] We need a peaceful and tolerant Islam like you represent it.
CRUSADER says
As in his lecture series Jay Smith says, the liberal Muslims in the West just ignore certain passages, in order to show that the religion of pieces is a religion of peace…. but then, the queer’an no longer is perfect or eternal or send from heaven or complete….(as Jay Smith proves) ….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQ611NSxfCk
Goofy says
The big challenge is that politicians including Pope Francis and the public consider Islam a religion on par with other religions without making the effort to find out what Muslims believe. This naiviy may cost us dearly if we do not put up a fight and bring to light what Islam is as Jihad Watch does so well.
CRUSADER says
Thank goodness for exemplar Carol Swain, in the USA,
a political aspirant seeking a mayoral run in Nashville, TN
— where the NRA Convention will be in 2020 — !!!
Here are some of her views on Islam:
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On January 16, 2015, in the wake of the Charlie Hebdo shooting,
Swain wrote an op-ed criticizing Islam in ‘The Tennessean’.
She argued:
“Islam is not like other religions in the United States…
it poses an absolute danger to us and our children unless it is monitored. …
If America is to be safe, it must … institute serious monitoring of Islamic organizations.”
— Carol M. Swain, ‘The Tennessean’
Following her comments some Vanderbilt students held a protest,
accusing Swain of engaging in “hate speech” and said more protests
would be held unless the University implemented a policy to
“promise its students protection from being attacked by faculty members.”
On January 19, Judson Phillips, another conservative activist,
wrote an op ed in ‘The Washington Times’ in defense of Swain’s remarks.
That same day, a piece by Vanderbilt University professor David J. Wasserstein,
titled “Thoughtful views on Islam needed, not simplicity,”
was published in ‘The Tennessean’ in response to Swain’s piece.
On January 23, 2015, ‘The Tennessean’ published another opinion piece,
titled “Anti-Islam op-ed distorts reality, could harm people,”
by Randy Horick countering Swain’s views.
In February 2015, Swain filed a police complaint after she received
a sexually harassing package from an address in Portland, Oregon
in retaliation for her op-ed. She added she no longer felt safe on
the campus of Vanderbilt University.
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Commonalities from opposition front:
THE MEDIA…
ACADEMIC CAMPUSES…
LIBERAL / LEFTIST JEWISH “INTELLECTS”…
& … PORTLAND, OREGON !!!!
Walter Sieruk says
This politician of Germany does have a good idea when he said the “We need a peaceful and tolerant Islam. ” The only problem with this statement is that it’s totally unrealistic to actually had a “peaceful and tolerant Islam” and still have that kind of “Islam” be Qu ran based genuine Islam
This is because many aspects of this religion are very violent and to be more specific murderously violent
This all leads to the idea to attempt have a “reformation of Islam” trying to do so is a waste of time and effort. This is because “reforming Islam” is not actually possible, it’s an action of futility. For It should be noted that Islam can’t be changed from violent and deadly to non –violent and peaceful because the very core essence of Islam is that of violence and killing. As found in the Quran 9:121, 5:33, 9:5, 111, 47:4. The very best that may be realistically hoped for would be a watered-down type of Islam is mild and non-violent.
This is in contrast to hard core Quran based Islam which is the violent and murderous Islam practice Muslim jihad terror organizations, as ISIS ,Al Qaeda , Hezbollah ,Hamas and so forth .
To put this in another way, the Bible informs its reader “What is crooked cannot be made straight, and what is lacking cannot be numbered.” Ecclesiastes 1 :15. [N.K.J.N.] Therefore this verse may be understood when applying it to the idea of folly of “reforming Islam” As in, “What is crooked cannot be made straight in. “The violent nature can’t be straightened to be made non-violent” and “what is lacking cannot be numbered” may be understood as “Such a violent and hate-filled religion is lacking in love and compassion and thus can’t be numbered or counted as a truly peaceful religion.”
Hoppla says
A peaceful and tolerant Islam would be called Christianity, Christianity like to Jesuses times. .
Jaladhi says
Has there ever been a peaceful Islam? Never ever! End of the search for a peaceful Islam.
Ajay says
Its an oxymoron. There is no such thing like peaceful tolerant islam. It can only be pieceful ??
CRUSADER says
oxymorons:
Jumbo Shrimp
Smart Marine
Grateful Liberal
Compassionate Leftist
Tolerant Muslim
tgusa says
“We need a peaceful and tolerant Islam like you represent it.”
That would be the tiny minority of extremists Ed. The enormous majority would murder the tiny minority in no time at all. I have noticed that the older western politicians get the dumber they become.
“We should not allow the mullahs to keep us hostage and impede and hinder us in your steps forward.”
Ok Ed, saddle up, its time for you to get out there and git some. Yeah, the majority are not going to just go away without a fight.
CRUSADER says
Majority in a couple generations could becoming a minority due to demographics, whereby the Muslim populations are outbreeding the traditional majority populations in European countries.
Warnac9999 says
This is a wish that spans 1400 years. Wishing and hoping never worked. Unfortunately, killing has been the only answer.
Emilie Green says
“We need a peaceful and tolerant Islam”
And I want cookies and ice cream without calories”
Neither exists. Violence is inherent to Islam.
Michael Copeland says
“Violence is the heart of Islam” – Ayatollah Yazdi
“I am telling you that my religion doesn’t tolerate other religion. It doesn’t tolerate,” – Abu Bakr, Algerian-born cleric, in Australia.
Keys says
Indeed, the spirit of Islam is not peace. Used by jihadists worldwide: “we love death more than you love life”.
“This [ jihadist slogan ] originated at the Battle of Qadisiyya in the year 636, when the commander of the Muslim forces, Khalid ibn Al-Walid, sent an emissary with a message from Caliph Abu Bakr to the Persian commander, Khosru. The message stated: “You [Khosru and his people] should convert to Islam, and then you will be safe, for if you don’t, you should know that I have come to you with an army of men that love death, as you love life.” This account is recited in today’s Muslim sermons, newspapers, and textbooks.”
(Steve Salinsky, National Review, 2004)
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tim gallagher says
Spot on, Emilie. It is such a utopian fantasy this politician is talking about. I’d say it’s no different to saying that we need a peaceful Nazism. Just an impossible wish list type of thing. It must be some type of magical thinking where you think that if you say it, it ‘ll actually happen. They’re good quotes, Michael. Imagine a religion which has violence at its heart, as Yazdi says. It’s so incredibly, satanically evil.
David says
Without Violence there is no point to islam. Take it out of the Koran and you are not left with much
CogitoErgoSum says
Dividing the Quran into two distinct sections of Meccan verses and Medinan verses would go a long way in helping people understand Islam a little better. There is no mention of Jihad in the Meccan verses. Get rid of the Medinan verses and Islam really would not be a big deal. After fleeing Mecca Muhammad seems to have switched personalities and turned into a bitter, hateful man, bent on vengeance against his enemies. Instead of being willing to die for his religion he took the course of being willing to kill for his religion. Such a pity for the world.
CRUSADER says
The argument of excising the Medinan verses supports the notion that Muslims would become peaceful, as if they would follow a kinder, gentler Islam. Why not just follow Christian Gospel at that point? Islam took from Christian folklore which got pieced together with Judaic folklore and various Arabic themes to form the manmade, non-divine, non-eternal, fallible, incomplete, imperfect Koran.
Heck, if the Koran ever were divided, it would go against the foundations of Islam itself, and it would show the Koran is not perfect. So why not just follow a faith with Word/Logos which is all four of these tenets?:
– Sent Down From Above
– Eternal
– Complete
– Perfect
Jay Smith demolishes the Koran, and makes a good case for the Gospel of Christ!
(see above video of lecture)
No Muzzies Here says
There would be no problem if Islam were peaceful and tolerant. There would be no need for this website if Islam ordered Muslims to accept people of other religions. 9-11 would not have happened. Millions of people would not have been raped, burned alive, thrown off buildings, or murdered. If Islam caused Muslims to adopt modern, civilized ways of living we would not be talking about this.
There is no Quaker Watch, or Buddhist Watch, or Unitarian Universalist Watch, or Mormon Watch. I couldn’t find an Amish Watch. Wouldn’t it be nice if Islam were peaceful and tolerant? Dream on!
CRUSADER says
There is no need to Watch:
Quakers….they die out with frequency.
Buddhists….they get reincarnated and its impossible to keep track of ’em.
UU…they hold sermons on “what vegetable are you today?”
Mormons….they might be on a different planet at any moment.
Amish….they stay where they are with no way of leaving a scene quickly.
Keep WATCH on those Muslims, though! They are deceitful!!!!
David says
Being a peaceful muslim is like a murderer who is trying to resist the urge to kill someone.
James says
My impression is that in Germany the muslims already just assume the country is theirs, they can look forward to it being an Islamic country. I was in a church today, and there were two women in headscarves there, and I thought, could this be? Do they think the churches already belong to them? They are just waiting for minarets? The TV news talk about right-wing extremists or accuse the AfD of being bigoted and racist, but there is never any mention of Islamic crimes and disrespect for Christianity. They have already surrendered to Islam. They might as well be living in Stalinist Russia and hoping for a kinder, gentler Stalinism. Forget it, you get what you fight for, and they surrendered already.
CRUSADER says
James, Jay Smith speaks of how London is changing quickly,
and how churches are being transformed into local Islamic Centers,
with the gorgeous stained glass windows replaced by opaque plastic.
As John Guandolo said, you can’t win if you’ve already surrendered!
GreekEmpress says
James,
Just curious—where did you see the women in headscarves? In US?
What kind of church was it?
Thanks.
CRUSADER says
Headscarves in churches may indicate the presence of some modest, humble, devout Christian worshippers in the pews — traditional style….so….
Nerdy says
It is like with antisemitic crime in Germany since the late 60s. Percentage stayed, numbers raised! 60% by muslims, 30% by Left, 10% by the so called Right. Guess what media and politics have in focus?! the 10%!!!! ALL antisemitic crimes HAS TO BE by the Right. (official numbers by the local synagogue!) take care
Heidi says
This is Eduard Lintner, who wants a peaceful Islam. Well, first of all and most important is that we need politicians with brains. He is no member of the German Parliament. At most he is a member of the Bavarian Parliament if at all. He is another red headed stepchild of the CSU in Bavaria and thinks he is important. Matter of factly I have never heard of him before https://www.occrp.org/en/azerbaijanilaundromat/profiles/eduard-lintner
CRUSADER says
Islamic Supremacists of the US Congress are at it again!
Isn’t the demonic duo’s Big Adventure to the Holy Land of Israel looming?
This is how they prepare for that junket trip?
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The tight-knit “Squad” of freshman progressive lawmakers has started to adopt a curious new talking point — defending Israel boycotts by likening them to boycotts against Nazi Germany.
Rep. Rashida Tlaib, D-Mich., was the latest to make this comparison, speaking on the House floor Tuesday in opposition to a bipartisan resolution against the movement known as BDS — which calls for boycotts, divestment, and sanctions against Israel.
“The right to boycott is deeply rooted in the fabric of our country,” said Tlaib, the daughter of Palestinian immigrants, before noting, “Americans boycotted Nazi Germany in response to dehumanization, imprisonment, and genocide of Jewish people.” She also made reference to boycotts against apartheid South Africa.
The anti-BDS bill passed by a vote of 398-17.
Days earlier, Rep. Ilhan Omar, D-Minn., introduced a resolution of her own that subtly supported BDS without specifically mentioning Israel. That resolution also utilized the Nazi Germany comparison.
“Whereas Americans of conscience have a proud history of participating in boycotts to advocate for human rights abroad, including … boycotting Nazi Germany from March 1933 to October 1941 in response to the dehumanization of the Jewish people in the lead-up to the Holocaust,” the resolution said.
In comments to Al-Monitor, Omar said the resolution “is an opportunity for us to explain why it is we support a nonviolent movement, which is the BDS movement.”
Some Jewish lawmakers have bristled at the comparison and at the Squad’s continued support for BDS.
“In twisting the knife, the text of Omar’s pro-BDS resolution goes so far as attempting to draw a moral equivalency with boycotting Nazi Germany,” Rep. Lee Zeldin, R-N.Y., wrote in a Fox News op-ed.
In the past, Omar has accused members of Congress of supporting Israel due to lobbyists, implying that they are being paid off. She claimed on Twitter that U.S. support for Israel was “all about the Benjamins baby.” She later deleted the tweet and apologized.
Of the other Squad members, Rep. Ayanna Pressley, D-Mass., voted for the anti-BDS bill, but Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., joined Tlaib and Omar in opposing it.
Ocasio-Cortez justified her vote to BuzzFeed News by saying it was a matter of free speech and supporting non-violent protest.
“And my concern with being overly punitive on nonviolent forms of protest is that it forces people into other channels and I would hate to be a part of, you know, paving that kind of path,” she said. Israel has faced attacks from the Hamas-led Gaza Strip for years, most recently with rockets fired into Israel in May.
Ocasio-Cortez has also used Holocaust comparisons amid other policy debates, including describing detention facilities at the U.S.-Mexico border as “concentration camps.”
Despite support for BDS from some on the American left, Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas has spoken against it in the past.
“No, we do not support the boycott of Israel,” Abbas told South African reporters in 2013, according to the Times of Israel. He did say he is in favor of boycotting Israeli settlements in the West Bank.
“But we do not ask anyone to boycott Israel itself,” he explained, saying, “we have relations with Israel, we have mutual recognition of Israel.”
[Fox News]
Heidi says
@Crusader, show her this. The BDS is not welcome in Germany https://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-bds-israel/germany-designates-bds-israel-boycott-movement-as-anti-semitic-idUSKCN1SN204
David says
Rashida Tlaib is one of 14 brothers and sisters!
Lydia Church says
Ah, but then by definition, it ceases to be islam!
Why, oh why, don’t people understand this?
Those who are being more ‘peaceful’ are not being true to the nature of islam.
“Kill them… kill them… kill them!” is the mandate, remember? The command to murder innocent people for numerous reasons…
CRUSADER says
Lydia, have you watched this?
“Do We Share The Same God?” — Jay Smith
Insider Movement: if the West shares a lot with Islam,
then why would Muslims leave Islam, just stay within it
and never leave, just breed….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jc_eBW7T3To
CRUSADER says
“Not the Same God:
Is the Qur’anic Allah the Lord God of the Bible?”
book by
Sam Solomon, Atif Debs
Wilberforce Publications, 2016
The Qur’an claims that Allah and the God of the Bible is one and the same. It can be politically convenient to hold this view and may appear to promote tolerance. Yet, for true tolerance and effective dialogue, a deeper understanding of one another’s religious claims is imperative. In this book Solomon and Debs draw on Qur’anic scholarship to present a compelling case against this doctrine of ‘sameness’.
The characteristics of the God of the Bible are far removed from the Allah presented in the Qur’an. The Lord God of the Bible looks for a loving relationship with humankind whom he created in his image; in full revelation of himself, God became man on earth and dwells by his Holy Spirit in the hearts of all who ask him.
Agostino Armo Pellegrini says
The violent verses in islamic doctrine and the crimes they inspire are bad enough. But it’s really about so much more than that, it’s also about how every day muslims infringe on our society with every manner of islamic adulteration that threatens to destroy us. Terrorists for allah are bad, for sure, but we can justifiably kill them and still preserve our nation(s).
The real threat is the inch by inch, day by day, disintegration of our freedoms and culture for islam by your average “peaceful” muslims, who by the way, don’t have to remind us how violent they can be if they don’t get their way. The end result is always the same, they displace non-muslims with enclaves of religious intolerance and criminal danger. Often times police won’t even enter these zones if pursuing a criminal suspect, Sweden may be the worst in this regard. Gun violence has escalated to alarming levels and it’s spilling over into non-muslim areas. Rapes in Sweden have earned certain areas like Malmo “the rape capital of the world.” Antisemitism is seriously on the rise because of the muslim influx and it’s forcing Jews to flee, in France alone 50,000 have left for this reason. When the muslim population get’s this big they more freely operate their other culture crime, like honor killings, FGM, sharia enforcement, and misogynist hate with abuse. And of course if a non-muslim were to complain about any of this then they’re a racist-bigoted-xenophobic-islamophobe that must be silenced. In other words, the good citizen that voices concern about these horrors is the criminal while the muslim invaders are portrayed as the victims. We’re expected to care more about muslims than our own nation’s security, our families, and our own cultural heritage. It’s becoming a humanitarian crime against non-muslims for islam, and could easily lead to civil war. There’s nothing multicultural about living with islam. What you have are two diametrically opposed cultures living side-by-side in distrust, fear, and hatred. And it isn’t because we we didn’t try, we welcomed them in with open arms and benefits, hoping and expecting they would meld with our culture in tolerance and respect. HA! did we ever learn! The multicultural dream of the left has created a nightmare and everyone is suffering including muslims. America better stay alert, or we too will end up like those beaten down dhimmis of Europe.
Agostino Armo Pellegrini says
Here’s an old Fox clip that supports what I said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8bqWbJkTf8
Agostino Armo Pellegrini says
…and another:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FiDW0NEh10
CRUSADER says
Author warns against ‘No Go’ Zones….
Are ‘No Go Zones’ where non-Muslims are not allowed
and Sharia Law prevails coming to the West.
Breitbart London editor Raheem Kassam
takes a closer look in new book…
“How Sharia Law is coming to a Neighborhood near you!”
CRUSADER says
I’m looking to buy a car from a Swedish factory
and drive around Sweden… to check the situation
first hand. Any suggestions?
Angemon says
That or flying cars. And flying cars seem like the most realistic option…
CRUSADER says
If you put a carpet inside a flying car, can that be designated as a flying carpet?
Angemon says
Only insofar as the people inside the car flying can be called “flying people”…
Demsci says
This seems to be from Eduard Lintner, German Parlementarian. He seems to be with the MEK (Mudjahedien Khalq). Enemies of the Ayatollahs, They now form part of the NCRI, the strongest opposition to the Ayatollahs. Addressed by John Bolton, Rudy Giuliani at some of their big gatherings in Western Capitals Paris and Brussel and in other cities. Now residing in camp Ashraf 3, in Albania.
The leader of MEK is Maryam Rajavi. She always wears a hijab. But I may not be as informed and sharp as I should be, but I still had hopes that the MEK and NCRI were NOT ISLAMIC. Or maybe mixed Islamic, leftist, freedomfighters against the regime. Already working with secret agents within Iran for regime change.
And now apparently the German is informed that even this Maryam Rajavi is a Muslima. But for the German that is not a problem, he obviously thinks the Islam of her and her followers is that “peaceful version”.
But for me (us?) it is a huge disappointment to now be informed that yes, even the leader of the freedomfighters of Iran, supported by Bolton and Giuliani, our best hope (?) IS ALSO ISLAMIC!
Wellington says
Yep, won’t do, Demsci. There simply is no good Islam lurking out there except in the imagination of some people. Rather like there is no good Nazism lurking out there somewhere. When you preach a master faith (or a a master race) there’s no upside to such shit and thinking otherwise is very fallacious thinking and only prolongs optimally dealing with the evil at hand.
Can’t put lipstick on a pig and call her Miss America. Which reminds me of Ilhan Omar but I digress.
Hope you are doing well. Always good to read your informed posts.
CRUSADER says
What of the Shah and his supporters?
Weren’t, when the fit hits the shan, they Muslim to some certain effect?
(Not enough Muslim, of course, but enough — in the longer term —
where it might matter to concerns of the West?)
Wellington says
Secular authoritarians, CRUSADER, ruling over a majority-Muslim nation can significantly reduce Islam’s power and keep it contained. Ataturk did this in Turkey. Nasser did so in Egypt. Even Saddam Hussein did this in Iraq but with him he was so brutal and so foolishly ambitious that he had to go.
In an Islamic nation, either the clerics will rule or some kind of secular figure who reduces Islam’s influence as much as possible. I don’t see a third way unless a nation has mass desertion from Islam—which I hold out some hope for because Islam is under a scrutiny it has never been subjected to before and it is possible that huge numbers of Muslims will eventually see how stupid and repressive their religion is and simply abandon it. Muslims converting to Christianity en masse would be a good thing. Even Muslims en masse becoming atheists would be far better than remaining Muslim.
Wellington says
“We need a peaceful and tolerant Islam.”
Reminds me of a commercial from years ago where a customer in a grocery store asks a store clerk if he has decaffeinated coffee that tastes as good as regular. To which query the store clerk responds, “Lots of’ luck buddy.”
To anyone looking for a peaceful and tolerant Islam, it’s most definitely “Lots of luck time.” And fantasy versions of Islam, for instance the Ahmadiyya sect or what Zuhdi Jasser and Irshad Manji profess, don’t count precisely because they are rooted in imagination and not fact.. For the record, fantasy coffee doesn’t exist either.
CRUSADER says
So, Wellington, what’s to be done with Islam?
Wellington says
Like Nazism and Marxism, it must be characterized as a giant negative. This first step has yet to occur though more and more people are coming to the realization that Islam is iniquitous but it is imperative that most of the elites in the political realm, judicial realm, academia and the media come to this conclusion as well. Thereafter, Islam can be marginalized and looked upon as a tolerated belief system that only losers, the confused and barbarians adhere to. It should be shamed into only existing on the extreme margins of Western societies and vigorous application of the law should be applied to any heinous Islamic dictate that contravenes the law (examples being death for apostasy, honor killings, the hitting of women, et al.). No accommodation to Islam should be made. It needs to be looked upon as the pariah of major faiths and laws must be improvised to disallow further Muslim immigration to the West.
But first things first, i.e., proper characterization of Islam as malevolent. Thereafter, I believe the rest will fall into place and the West will become far safer and less threatened. In a way, Western nations must do to Islam what Ataturk did to it—make it as minimal as possible.
gravenimage says
German politician: “We need a peaceful and tolerant Islam”
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Pious Muslims don’t care what the “filthy Infidels” need.
Marigold says
Thankyou Robert for the Quotes. We need to be aware of them.
The so called moderate muslims are as scared of the militant Islamists as everyone else and of course the Quoran is such a perfect book that it is not possible to denounce what is written in it.I bet half of the moderate muslims haven’t got a clue what IS written in it.
Ren says
“We need a peaceful and tolerant Islam”.
That will never happen.
Pieter says
This politician is a nice dreamer, Islam is not peaceful and will never be peaceful.
Norger says
“We need a peaceful and tolerant Islam”.
Good luck with that.
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
The politician doesn’t understand that Islam is explicitly about the opposite of peaceful and tolerant. But the Germans are so guilt ridden that it’s their emotional duty to self-destruct, commit societal suicide by Moslem. Gonna be a rough ride, a delusional one too.
762x51FMJ says
Marxist Leftists love Islam so much that only when they raise their hands to keep their heads from being sawed off do they realize they’re Islamophobic…
762x51FMJ says
Marxist Leftists love Islam so much that only when they raise their hands to keep their heads from being sawed off do they realize they are Islamophobic…
Don Ameche says
Unfortunately the world will NEVER….. EVER…. have a peaceful and tolerant islam. Because islam is the very essence of intolerance and jihad.
UNCLE VLADDI says
What a tard. He might as well also hope for a non-anti-Semitic Nazi party in Germany.