She decried what she called “assumptions about what our value basis might be because of where we might come from, and who we pray to.”
That’s all very well, and Omar did support a bill in the Minnesota House making female genital mutilation a felony. But in light of that, how hard would it have been for her to say “Certainly I condemn it”? The questioner was not some “Islamophobe,” but the president of a group called Muslims for Progressive Values. The questioner’s point was correct, that FGM is a big problem in the Detroit area, and so to have a Muslim Representative come out strongly against it could well make a difference.
Questions also arise about Omar’s stand on this because she obviously adheres to Sharia, as is evidenced by her hijab, and FGM is mandated in Islamic law: “Circumcision is obligatory (for every male and female) (by cutting off the piece of skin on the glans of the penis of the male, but circumcision of the female is by cutting out the bazr ‘clitoris’ [this is called khufaadh ‘female circumcision’]).” — Umdat al-Salik e4.3, translated by Mark Durie, The Third Choice, p. 64
Why is it obligatory? Because Muhammad is held to have said so: “Abu al- Malih ibn Usama’s father relates that the Prophet said: ‘Circumcision is a law for men and a preservation of honour for women.’” — Ahmad Ibn Hanbal 5:75
“Narrated Umm Atiyyah al-Ansariyyah: A woman used to perform circumcision in Medina. The Prophet (peace be upon him) said to her: ‘Do not cut severely as that is better for a woman and more desirable for a husband.’” — Abu Dawud 41:5251
That hadith is classified as weak, but this one is classified as sahih (reliable): “Aishah narrated: ‘When the circumcised meets the circumcised, then indeed Ghusl is required. Myself and Allah’s Messenger did that, so we performed Ghusl.’” — Jami` at-Tirmidhi 108
If Muhammad had the genitals of his favorite wife, Aisha, mutilated, that is a strong endorsement of the practice from the man who is an “excellent example” (Qur’an 33:21) for Muslims.
Why does it matter whether or not FGM is Islamic? Because the practice will never be eradicated if its root causes are not confronted. As long as those Muslims continue to believe that Allah and Muhammad want it done, for some that will override all other considerations.
“Rep. Omar Berates Questioner for Asking Her to Condemn Female Genital Mutilation,” by Patrick Goodenough, CNS News, July 24, 2019:
(CNSNews.com) – Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.) became agitated when asked at an event in D.C. this week if she and fellow Muslim congresswoman Rep. Rashida Tlaib (D-Mich.) would condemn female genital mutilation.
She decried what she called “assumptions about what our value basis might be because of where we might come from, and who we pray to.”
Awkwardly, the question came from Ani Zonneveld, president of Muslims for Progressive Values and also a featured speaker on the Muslim Caucus Collective for Equitable Democracy event, where the exchange took place.
Zonneveld drew attention to a Detroit judge’s ruling last November that a 22-year-old federal law making female genital mutilation (FGM) a crime was unconstitutional. As a result, charges against nine people accused of subjecting nine young girls to FGM were dismissed.
“Would you be able to make a statement against FGM because that’s an issue in Detroit,” Zonneveld asked Omar. “And it would be really powerful if the two Muslim congresswomen, yourself and Rashida, would make a statement on this issue.”
Omar described the question as “appalling.”
“Because I always feel like there are bills that we vote on, bills we sponsor, many statements we put out, and then we’re in a panel like this and the question is posed, ‘Could you and Rashida do this?’”
Omar went on to ask whether she needs to “make a schedule” to ensure she makes statements regularly condemning al-Qaeda, condemning FGM, or condemning Hamas.
“It’s a very frustrating question,” she continued. “It comes up – you can look at my record. I voted for bills doing exactly what you’re asking me to do.”
“And so I am, I think, quite disgusted – really to be honest – that as Muslim legislators we are constantly being asked to waste our time speaking to issues that other people are not asked to speak to, because the assumption exists that we somehow support, and are for – right? No, there is an assumption.”
Omar said what she was looking for was that people did not have “assumptions about what our value basis might be because of where we might come from, and who we pray to.”
Omar was born in Somalia, a country that according to the United Nations children’s agency UNICEF has the highest rates of FGM in the world – an estimated 98 percent prevalence.
FGM, which involves the partial or entire removal of the female genitalia, is a practice that experts say predates Islam, but is most prevalent today in Islamic countries.
After Somalia, the next countries identified by UNICEF with high prevalence levels are Guinea (96 percent), Djibouti (93 percent), Egypt (91 percent), Eritrea (89 percent), Mali (89 percent), Sierra Leone (88 percent), and Sudan (88 percent). Except for Eritrea, those are all Muslim-majority countries.
(The Organization of Islamic Cooperation, the bloc of Muslim-majority states, has rejected claims of a link between Islam and FGM. During a U.N. Commission on the Status of Women session in 2013, the OIC called FGM a “cultural” practice that is “disguised as part of religious tradition.”)
Voting record
In her remarks on Tuesday, Omar referred to her past votes on measures opposing FGM:
Before she was elected to Congress, Omar was a member of the Minnesota House when in 2017 it considered a bill authored by a Republican, Rep. Mary Franson, seeking to make it a felony for parents to subject their daughters to FGM.
When the state’s House voted on the bill, Omar joined the bipartisan majority in supporting it, and it passed by 124-4 votes.
Prior to the vote, however, Omar suggested that the bill’s proponents may be seeking media attention.
“What I don’t want us to do is to try to create laws because we want to be able to get in the media,” Omar said during committee consideration of the legislation….
Emilie Green says
If I may repeat a comment from an early post,
Her Islamic supremacism comes through, loud and clear, to the point that she acts as if she were a queen – complete with crown in the form of her ever-changing head coverings – deigning to take questions from her subjects, instead of being a representative of the people, making law.
And to answer her objection, these questions will continue since her Muslim co-religionists will continue to follow their Qur’an – the same Qur’an which Omar reads – and the instructions in it to kill the non-Muslim until the whole world worships their Allah.
In fact, now that we know that this irritates her, more questions about Islam should be directed at her. Lets see her become really unglued, revealing the Muslim beneath.
Anjuli Pandavar says
That’s an excellent idea, Emilie. It was an “Ask-a-Muslim-Anything” from which the questioner could not be ejected. I’ve seen someone do this to Omar’s fellow Somali jihadi across the border in Canada, Minister for Immigration (!) Ahmed Hussen. This should be done to *all* Muslim office-bearers in democratic polities, for they are there *for no other reason* but to impose Shari’a. Expose them. Western Muslims and infidel virtue-signallers have dumped Tariq Ramadan. Keep hammering away and the same can be achieved with these dangerous liars, especially when their arrogance leads them to delusions of infallibility.
CRUSADER says
“Ask-a-Muslim-Anything” …
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPQXvQYHkh4
Mike says
Did you see how tough it was for her to say simple yer or no ?
Ilham do not only act like a queen , she is a princess , basicaly , in her country and her family are slaver .They sell infidel black as slaves for arabic countries around .Ilham is not Black as one could think but Arab.
Next time , embarasse her more , ask her :”How many religions should there be on earth ? ” If she says : “Only one : Islam ” she will say the truth and will trigger other religions . If she says : ” As much as anyone wants ” she will be in conflict with muslims . So , whatever she says , trouble is ahead .
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
We know Rep Ilhan is a player cuz she’s gonna get off on multiple immigration fraud felony counts. This is a can-do person. Yeah sure she’s a Jew hater, but so are lotsa Jews. The only thing she’s missing is self-hatred. My theory is that she loves herself because a) she’s not a houri in a peachfuzz pile up in Jannat the porno heaven, and b) she’s getting positive messages in the secret communicator device she hides up in her head dress.
I’m so proud to be a Minnesotan. I’m so…
lebel says
I think this is impossible to win. If she says she is against it, you will immediately question her sincerity and insinuate taqqiya. This is a circle that keeps repeating over and over again. It’s a catch-22 that you’ve set up from which there is no escape.
She has taken actual action (which is something you constantly clamour for) and I don’t think this action was even reported on jihadwatch (I could be wrong). This action speaks much louder than any words, words that would in any case count for nothing for jihadwatch. She has in any case already called the practice heinous and I don’t think this was reported at jihadwach either. Source: https://www.apnews.com/d91e6f6988884aed8faf00bb48fb9e7c
I can predict that the next step will be to insinuate that her actions in voting for the bill are in fact more taqqiya because really that is all you can say at this point.
Frank Scarn says
Funny thing about taqqiya and having it as an acceptable part of your religion and your life. No one knows when you’ll telling the truth.
Trust but verify.
“Oh, what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive”
Wellington says
Yeah, lebel, she called this monstrosity and stupidity “heinous,” but then she immediately went on to obfuscate matters by way of objecting to the bill due to family concerns.
How pathetic. And indicative again, lebel, why no one, I mean NO ONE, should trust a Muslim on anything. Rather like no one should trust a KKK member, an anarchist, a Neo-Nazi or a Marxist on any matter. After all, when you adhere to an iniquitous or stupid ideology (like Islam) and nonetheless occasionally stumble into the truth (assuming sincerity here but which assumption with Omar is just that, i.e., an assumption), so damn what?
The real problem, lebel, is not Omar. She is merely a symptom of the problem. And the problem is Islam, all of it. It is a mortal enemy of good things like freedom, equality under the law, fine pork products, good beer, and, oh yes, a woman having the full capacity to experience an orgasm.
You won’t get this but then there is so much you don’t get. But try getting this: Islam has nothing in it which is good that can’t be found elsewhere but it has much rot in it (e.g., female mutilation and death for apostasy) that can’t be found anywhere else in the major religions of the world.
Go ahead, lebel. I dare you. Tell me, tell all of us limited non-Muslims, who regularly post here at JW and whom you regularly defame, what Islam can offer to us and the world at large which is a positive and absent from other religious or ethical belief systems. I aver you won’t be able to name one damn thing, but give it a shot. Yeah, lebel, do so.
CRUSADER says
— no one should trust a Muslim, a KKK member, an anarchist,
a Neo-Nazi or a Marxist on any matter.
————
AGREED.
lebel says
“Go ahead, lebel. I dare you. Tell me, tell all of us limited non-Muslims, who regularly post here at JW and whom you regularly defame, what Islam can offer to us and the world at large which is a positive and absent from other religious or ethical belief systems. I aver you won’t be able to name one damn thing, but give it a shot. Yeah, lebel, do so”
First point, calling out hate is not defamation.
Second point, I am not here to claim that Islam is better than other religions. I am here because this is a hate site against Muslims. If you’re asking for my opinion as to what people find in Islam they can’t find in other religions, I think it has good elements from many religions. For example, strict monotheism (found in Judaism but not in Christianity for example), ease of conversion (found in Christianity but not in Judaism), a good balance between the here and now and the hereafter (the first found in Judaism and the other in Christianity) others might be the good combination of virility and gentleness exemplified in the Prophet of Islam.
This of course is just my opinion and unlike many jihadwatchers who are so sure that they know the truth about Islam, I could be wrong.
Angemon says
“First point, calling out hate is not defamation.”
Accusing the vast majority of people here, when not everyone, of hatred and bigotry when all you can point to as “evidence” are the odd outliers is defamation. Have you seen any criticism of islam you haven’t considered “hatred against muslims”?
“I am here because this is a hate site against Muslims. ”
QED.
“I think it has good elements from many religions”
This gonna be good!
“For example, strict monotheism (found in Judaism but not in Christianity for example), ”
What are you smoking? Monotheism is a core belief of the Christian faith.
“ease of conversion (found in Christianity but not in Judaism)”
As long as you’re not converting out of islam – you know the penalty for that, right?
“ a good balance between the here and now and the hereafter ”
That’s actually true – sex slaves here, sex slaves in the afterlife – assuming one goes to paradise…
Angemon says
In any case, you’ve only confirmed what Manuel II Palaiologos said…
gravenimage says
lebel wrote:
“Go ahead, lebel. I dare you. Tell me, tell all of us limited non-Muslims, who regularly post here at JW and whom you regularly defame, what Islam can offer to us and the world at large which is a positive and absent from other religious or ethical belief systems. I aver you won’t be able to name one damn thing, but give it a shot. Yeah, lebel, do so”
First point, calling out hate is not defamation.
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How is objecting to pious Muslims mutilating little girls “hate”?
More:
Second point, I am not here to claim that Islam is better than other religions. I am here because this is a hate site against Muslims.
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So now even trying to protect Muslim children form being mutilated is deemed “hate” against Muslims.
More:
If you’re asking for my opinion as to what people find in Islam they can’t find in other religions, I think it has good elements from many religions. For example, strict monotheism (found in Judaism but not in Christianity for example),
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This is repeating the Islamic trope that Christianity is not monotheistic–which is quite false–and so Muslims can slaughter Christians to their heart’s content. *Ugh*.
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ease of conversion (found in Christianity but not in Judaism),
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As Angemon notes, that ease of conversion only goes one way. Infidels can even be tricked into converting–as, for instance, intoning the words in Arabic–but are still subject to being killed if they leave. Does lebel have a problem with this? Not so he says.
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a good balance between the here and now and the hereafter (the first found in Judaism and the other in Christianity) others might be the good combination of virility and gentleness exemplified in the Prophet of Islam.
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Well, yes–Muslims can slaughter Infidels in the here and now, and rape women, girls and boys both now *and* in Paradise–so balanced!
As for the “Prophet”, I get that his raping his captives, his sex slaves, and a small girl has been considered “virile” by his appalling followers–but “gentleness”? What does lebel consider “gentle” about this caravan raider, pedophile, slaver, rapist, and mass murderer? Note that not even lebel could come up with a single example here.
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This of course is just my opinion and unlike many jihadwatchers who are so sure that they know the truth about Islam, I could be wrong.
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Ah…right. If lebel were really so humble and uncertain would he spend so much of his time here spouting apologia for one of the most vicious creeds in human history? Of course not. What he is trying to do is foster doubt here, so that the ‘filthy Infidels’ will not stand against these horrors.
Will lebel say anything against forcibly mutilating children in the name of Islam? Do’t hold your breath…
Michael Radovsky says
lebel You comment that Islam has “ease of conversion (found in Christianity but not in Judaism)” That’s because xtianity also tries to force their beliefs on Jews, but Jews don’t force their beliefs on anyone and that’s why it’s more difficult to convert to Judaism. But you forgot to mention what happens when a Muslim tries to leave Islam. Why don’t you tell us what they do to the Muslim who doesn’t want to follow the Islamic political ideology any more?
Angemon says
“I think this is impossible to win. If she says she is against it, you will immediately question her sincerity and insinuate taqqiya. This is a circle that keeps repeating over and over again. It’s a catch-22 that you’ve set up from which there is no escape.”
Who is this “you” you’re addressing/talking about, and what do you think of her non-response?
Anjuli Pandavar says
Oh how dreadful! The poor liars can get caught in a bind. It reminds me of the poor rapists who can be caused anxiety.
CRUSADER says
All that Ilhan Omar continues to do is expose Islam out in full public view….
Kay says
It wouldn’t be so hard to say either yes or no. And if she wanted to elaborate to name the Minnesota bill she voted on.
The aggressive way she expressed that questions are not welcome wasn’t called for. It seems she doesn’t want to be asked about anything. But that attitude isn’t what Americans expect or want from their representatives.
Pam says
Iebel, she was asked “And it would be really powerful if the two Muslim congresswomen, yourself and Rashida, would make a statement on this issue.”
Ilhan should as a Muslim woman who really does oppose FGM should want to make a statement on how she opposes the practice. If she truly opposes the practice she shouldn’t have to be asked to make a statement on it, she should be making it part of every interview, and every speech on how she condemns the practice, it should be FGM that she finds appalling not being ask to be a spokesperson on the matter. She loves placing herself as a victim when it comes to issues she doesn’t want to address, but when it comes to speaking to other muslims on how they are mistreated, and how they won’t be treated as 2nd class citizens she then makes herself as if she is indestructible.
We all know she will lie to win votes, she has openly stated that when she told the Jewish community she lied to them so she would get their votes. For her to become so defensive on such an important issue that a law had to be made to end the practice is what I find appalling and I would think you should feel the same.
lebel says
“We all know she will lie to win votes, she has openly stated that when she told the Jewish community she lied to them so she would get their votes”
Fine so why doesn’t she just lie? she is a liar and her religion allows her to lie so all she needs to do is keep saying “yes it’s horrible, it’s horrible” every time she is asked. That would not be difficult and she gets extra points for practising her religion. All the other Muslims would understand since lying is central to the Islamic religion so they would know she was of course lying. It’s that easy but she’s not doing that. Why not? you said yourself that she lies to win votes so why not simply lie here ?
Think about it and see if there is another explanation which you have not considered.
gravenimage says
lebel does this all the time–pretends that Muslims can’t possibly say anything against the horrors of Islam, because the ‘filthy Infidels’ are insufficiently appreciative.
Does *he* oppose mutilating children? Not so he says…
Walter Sieruk says
How absurd even as a female Ilan Omar must really like the idea of have girls suffering the agony of the butchery of female genital mutilation .
About the Muslim politician ,Ilhan Omar , after her election to Congress she was thus was given a seat on the House of Foreign Affairs Committee where she has much influence to promote her Un-American Islamic ideas ,politics and polices upon America . The very idea and even the concept of FGM is as unAmerican as its also cruel
Omar with her foreign Islamic agenda she desire to impose on America which are in strong contrast to American ideas , values , politic and polices are a matter of concern, especially the idea’s. concerning brutal Islamic tradition of FGM
With this type of insidious Islamic infiltration in the US government the wisdom of the former US President, Theodore Roosevelt, very much applies to this serious situation.
For in a speech President Roosevelt, rightly, declared “There can be no fifty-fifty Americanism in this country. There is room here for only one hundred percent Americanism, only for those who are Americans and nothing else.”
Joanne says
A simple “yes” or “no” would do as an answer to this question. She is imperious and condescending not only here but in most of the coverage I’ve seen. She is perpetuallly wearing a scornful facial expression. If she wants to stay in politics she needs to learn some grace and humility when speaking in public.
Diane Harvey says
“she needs to learn some grace and humility when speaking in public”
Good one. The likelihood of that happening from a smug Islamic supremacist is . . . zero.
CRUSADER says
Unless she can transform politics to suit Sharia ways….
Walter Sieruk says
Now because on Islamic power infiltration into the United States and likewise Muslim politicians in America ,as Ilan Omar, this cruel, brutal and vicious Islamic tradition of female butchery which some Muslims so inappropriately call “female circumcision’ has spread like an infectious disease , or a plague , even to the USA.
This heinous Islamic custom of misogyny has been exposed in the book by Brigitte Gabriel which is entitled THEY MUST BE STOPPED. For on page 178 it reveals to the reader that “One of the most devastating practices to young girls of the Islamic world is female genital mutilation. Young girls have their clitoris removed without anesthesia…”
Indeed, Omar and other like her ,by all legal means, they must be stopped !
CRUSADER says
ACT for AMERICA !
http://www.ACTforAmerica.org
owensgate says
Really makes one wonder about her own genitalia. One way or another, it might explain her irrational behavior.
Jayell says
“Really makes one wonder about her own genitalia”….Er, do we really have to?
CRUSADER says
How about castrating that “Gold Star” dad next to her on the panel?
How’d he feel about that?
How would a “4th” or “5th Wave” Feminazi, such as Ilhan Omar is presented
to be, feel about that? She’d probably like knowing it happened to a male!
She’s gotta be a “4th Wave”, because Muslims are into the Four Fingers.
Anjuli Pandavar says
Omar complains, “As Muslim legislators we are constantly being asked to waste our time speaking to issues that other people are not asked to speak to, because the assumption exists that we somehow support, and are for – right? No, there is an assumption.” This woman is a more sophisticated liar than even Maajid Nawaz. She is implying that her actions are *not* motivated by her being a Muslim, to boot, she is motivated by universal, humanist values that “other people” are equally qualified, entitled and duty-bound to speak on. Not only does Omar consistently do the opposite, i.e., operate exclusively as a Muslim, her actions are narrowed right down specifically to engineering the introduction of Shari’a into the US. So much so that any Muslim naive enough to mess with her Shari’a priorities will get short shrift, as did the naive Muslim in this video. But more than this: it is a brilliant way of bouncing “other people”, especially if those other people are taking extra special care to issue the right virtue signals, into falling in behind her. This woman is *seriously dangerous*, a cleaned-up Linda Sarsour.
CRUSADER says
Ilhan “lyin’ / Illin’ ham” Omar
is just pulling off a bit of “JIHAD”…..
===========================
For your reading pleasure, below written is
something about “jihad” folks may need to learn
— according to some Muslim student in America,
a college graduate who wears her hijab openly,
which only makes her fat cheeks chubbier ! —
What do you think of this opinion article below?
(Here is a bit of propaganda veiled in creeping sharia:)
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~ “Changes Within” ~
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”
Last year, I got into a big argument with a close friend. I said
some things that, while I had not intended them to be hurtful,
had hurt her just the same. She was very upset and refused
to speak to me.
My pride told me that maybe she was worth losing as a friend
since she had so easily misunderstood the intention behind my
words. A true friend would have known that my intentions were
good.
As with all difficult situations, Islam always provides me with
an answer to my problems. In this case, the answer was jihad.
According to Arabic linguists, the word “jihad” means
“to struggle or to strive.” In Islam, the greatest and most
important form of jihad is the spiritual struggle within oneself
against sin. This means that apologizing to someone after an
argument or dispute — a truly difficult task, as we all know —
is considered jihad.
Accepting your mistakes to better yourself is considered jihad.
Swallowing your pride when you’ve hurt the people you love is
jihad.
Usually, “jihad” is only reported in violent contexts; however,
this is completely losing the true meaning. Jihad is a simple idea
that can and should be applied daily in life as we strive towards
goodness when presented with moral dilemmas.
With this in mind, I eventually decided to all my friend and ask for
her forgiveness for unintentionally hurting her. It was certainly
difficult, but jihad brought me to the conclusion that it was better
to apologize rather than lose a friend over the need to be right.
I want to reclaim that integral part of my faith that has been
transformative in helping me learn humility in my friendships by
inviting us all to practice the true jihad and strive towards peace
and love as a community.
It is simply an invitation to leave behind hurtful words and actions,
and open ourselves to betterment through patience, kindness,
generosity, forgiveness….
”
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Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) said:
“The holy warrior is he who strives against his self.”
“When the Believers are angry, they forgive.”
— Qur’an 42: 37
Ashour Malek says
Jihad is ONLY for sake of Islam. That means fight and fight all the infidels. Jihad is NOT for a better becoming person. What better person is found in any Islamic countries, tell me? Where are the millions of the Christians in their own original country called Middle East, after all Islam originated from the Desert of Arabia, and not the entire Middle East. Listen, No one can fool the Western world especially the American people. We all by now know what Jihad means, because we have seen and witnessed the Jihadis across Middle East beheading Christians, and destroying their places of worships. This is exactly the “JIHAD” Mohammad means it and practiced it teaching others how to execute it.
CRUSADER says
True! Some of these tenets which are lauded
could be Buddhist, and much of the good promoted
in this Islamic sentiment above could be found in
Christ’s message to the world. +++++++++++++
There is no need for Islam.
It is false, and it is useless.
Anything good found in it
can be discovered in a more
kind faith to believe in.
Anything selfishly promoted by Islam
— for personal or group gain as a motivation —
stems from the demonic influence:
greed, pride, deceit, violence, oppression….
Ashour Malek says
Wonder who with a right mind voted for this woman that insinuate taqqiya in every speech. Ask her also this question. Is it that you hate America because it is not a Muslim country or holds islamic principles? What is your respond to the constant killings of Somali whom prostate to Christianity and killed by the tenants of Islam?
Ren says
Maybe Ilhan Omar should try female genital mutilation before she condamns it.
gravenimage says
She probably has, since FGM of girls in Somalia is almost 100%.
CRUSADER says
So, it could be a psychological mess for her to open up the regrets on this issue, if she herself got genitally mutilated….
gravenimage says
CRUSADER, Ayaan Hirsi Ali suffered FGM, and she openly opposes it today.
I was abused as a child. That didn’t make me shy about speaking out against the abuse of children as an adult.
Marigold says
The woman is arrogant! There is no way would I want her representing me in parliament. FGM is barbaric FULL STOP!
Kay says
Isn’t she the one who spoke in another language— presumably only to Muslims— after the horror in Sri Lanka? She apparently wanted to be special to Muslims then— and didn’t want to be asked about that either. Or am I mistaken?
gravenimage says
Ilhan Omar berates Muslim questioner for asking her to condemn female genital mutilation
She decried what she called “assumptions about what our value basis might be because of where we might come from, and who we pray to.”
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Given that FGM is almost universal in Somalia, and that Islam itself calls for this barbarism, these are certainly valid questions.
How can so many liberals and leftists believe that Omar is “progressive”?
Michael Radovsky says
Omar will not condemn anything that has to do with Islam or barbaric sharia or her fellow Muslim terrorist “brothers and sisters.”
Ronen says
I think progressives have done so well in promoting progressive values. How lovely that in our days in America people are talking about such things hardly belonging in the middle ages.
CRUSADER says
You have to be middle aged to remember what decent values are these days!
Jayell says
“Abu al- Malih ibn Usama’s father relates that the Prophet said: ‘Circumcision is a law for men and a preservation of honour for women.’” …..
So they all started chopping off bits of people’s bodies because someone’s father thought he heard an illiterate, totally-medically-unqualified pseudo-religious charlatan with somewhat dubious morality and very clear criminal tendencies pronounce that there was some kind of social virtue in removing bits of one’s reproductive equipment, despite the very obvious evidence that it caused utterly pointless, debilitating permanent damage thereafter? And they carry on doing it 1,400 years later. Don’t these people have the capacity to use their intelligence to learn anything for themselves? Or have they taken crass gullibility to an art form? As the comedian Peter Cooke put it, “I know my mistakes and I can repeat them again exactly”. That was supposed to be a joke. With islam it’s apparently a mantra.
CRUSADER says
Well… Islam is the religion of pieces….
Kerry Wade says
Double speak from a woman who does not belong in a civilized society, period.
Michael says
Ilhan method is evasive.
The question was clear: if Muslim public figures make a condemnation statement regarding FGM, then the Muslim who practice it will have something to think about.
But of course she can not condemn the practice that is rooted in Islam. Therefore, a tactical response is evasive and provide no condemnation of Islamic practice that she clearly support, and that should had been the response:
I take it then that you do not condemn the practice of FGM !
Alain says
You are absolutely right Michael. To be blunt, she is a liar.
James says
She and her fellow Islamists are using the tactic recommended by Alinsky, Gramsci and other radicals and also by politicians like Obama. They pretend to be just like normal people with moderate views during the election campaigns or when questioned by the press. But once in a position of power they work for radical goals. And of course she does not dare to condemn the doctrines that are most opposed to Western values. She may vote for the will of the people on some issues, but she is still working for Islamic supremacy. The hijab is a symbol of this contempt for Western values, likewise raising funds for CAIR, making fun of Western fears and sensitivities about terror attacks like nine eleven, likewise the immigration fraud, tax fraud, advocacy for terrorists. It is all part of the Islamist strategy of islamization of America. She does not condemn despicable practices of her religion, because that would lose her support from the Islamist groups that back her. The will of the American people does not matter, because she wants to subvert the will of Christians and Jews. She should not be in Congress, and the Dems in Minnesota could block that. There are ways to do it, Obama used some of these methods in his political career, and they could be used against her too.
Alain says
You are spot on James.
Ibrahim Aziz says
A non-answer is an answer and it is clearly, No, Ilhan Omar supports FGM by refusing to condemn the practice. As Muhammad says in the Sahih Al-Bukhari Hadith 9.101 “Silence Is Consent”
Alain says
Note that a Sharia compliant Muslim will never answer a question – yes, or no. He will always side track the issue often by denigrating the person who posed the uncomfortable (for Omar) question as Omar plainly does here, and then to demonise the question itself by finding it ‘preposterous’ that such question could even be asked of him. And the next ploy is to go on a discourse to promote his own cause. The question asked is never answered. It is called taqiyya. What is this vicious woman Omar doing in the system?
UNCLE VLADDI says
Ilhan Omar was born and raised in Somalia – according to Ayaan Hirsi Ali (who was also born and raised there) she doesn’t have clit left either.
Anton Savarese says
Just answer the respectful question Ihan, and condemn – as all not-Muslims have – FGM..
What a piece of ‘Political Trash’..
I remain embarrassed to live in Minnesota..
Chef Mueller says
She’s a muslim religious hypocrite married to a somali-fa666t brother from the United Kingdom
lebel says
“Awkwardly, the question came from Ani Zonneveld, president of Muslims for Progressive Values and also a featured speaker on the Muslim Caucus Collective for Equitable Democracy event, where the exchange took place.”
That is high level taqqiya. Ms. Zonneveld is acting like she is against the practice but this just good cop, bad cop. Ms. Omar and Ms. Zonneveld agreed to this mascerade but we know that Muslims are obligated to lie to advance Islam.
Sweet, sweet taqqiya….
Angemon says
“ but we know ”
You and the voice in your head?
lebel says
“Questions also arise about Omar’s stand on this because she obviously adheres to Sharia, as is evidenced by her hijab,”
OK got it and so logically Rashida Tlaib does not adhere to Sharia since she does not wear hijab? right?
no?
lebel says
““For example, strict monotheism (found in Judaism but not in Christianity for example), ”
What are you smoking? Monotheism is a core belief of the Christian faith.”
Not for Jews or Muslims because of the trinity.
Angemon says
“Not for Jews or Muslims”
And I guess Jews or muslims decide the canons of Christian faith now, you little hypocrite? No, Christianity is monotheistic by its very definition – there’s only one God. That the quran, the supposedly flawless word of allah, lies and claims Christians worship Jesus and Mary as well as God doesn’t change that…
gravenimage says
Jews are not murdering Christians over their belief in the Trinity. Muslims certainly are, though. Is lebel OK with this?
lebel says
“Have you seen any criticism of islam you haven’t considered “hatred against muslims”?”
I don’t think criticism of Islam is hatred against Muslims. Thats your strawman
Angemon says
“I don’t think criticism of Islam is hatred against Muslims. Thats your strawman”
Nah, the strawman here was build by you. I asked not if you thought criticism of islam was hatred against musliims but if you have seen any criticism of islam you haven’t considered hatred against muslims, I asked you this because this is a site critical of islam and you describe it as “a hate site against Muslims”. No strawman in sight until, that is, you decided to pull one out of your ass to dodge a question.
Go on, lebel – please point out criticism of islam you don’t consider “hate against muslims”. Shouldn’t be hard – after all, you don’t think criticism of islam is hatred against muslims, right?
Monica Bey says
Omar is an extremely arrogant woman. How many times does she refuse to answer questions that anyone as an elected official should answer in the interests of transparency. She’s refused to answer all questions about how she came to the country and her former marriage? Why would you not answer those questions, along with the FGM, unless you had something to hide?
As a Muslim woman, who better to condemn this heinous practice. Can only conclude she doesn’t because she probably supports it. What other conclusion can one draw?
It seems her past will catch up with her, and either she’ll be removed from office for past fraud or not re-elected.
She’s clearly an example of why need more scrutiny of our immigration protocols
Greg Zotta says
This Muslim DemonRAT swore into office on the Qur’an, which is antithetical to the Constitution. No Muslim should be put in positions of power or elective office in the United States. Islam and Sharia law iare not compatible with the U.S. CONSTITUTION and American culture. Muslims can lie to the infidel to promote Islam. Their prophet Muhammad was a mass murderer, slaver and pedophile RAPIST.