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Indonesia: State universities allowing students who memorize the Quran to skip entrance tests

Jul 5, 2019 2:45 pm By Christine Douglass-Williams

Right before Indonesian elections in May, “Koran teachers linked to the campaign of defeated Indonesian presidential challenger Prabowo Subianto instructed teenagers to take part in… deadly riots in Jakarta.” In fact a “constitutional jihad” was being stoked in the country. Indonesia’s current president, Joko Widodo who managed to hold on to his leadership, was slammed by his opponent Subianto for not being sufficiently Islamic; and “accused of not being able to recite the Koran in proper Arabic.”

The battle to make Indonesia more Islamic is being embraced by state universities.  Now comes word that “memorizing the Quran” is fast tracking students into Indonesian state universities, allowing them to skip entrance tests.

“In Indonesia, memorizing Quran gets some students into university”, International Quran News Agency (thanks to The Religion of Peace), July 3, 2019:

For some youths in Indonesia, reading is a virtue that goes hand-in-hand with religiosity. Taught to read the Quran when they were children, some have grown up memorizing up to 30 chapters of it. Now some universities are valuing their hard work.

State universities are offering test-free entrance to hafiz (Quran memorizers) through their “achievement path” programs, in which high-achieving students in academic and arts fields can skip the regular joint entrance tests and university-administered entrance tests.

The program can account as high as 11 percent of the seats provided by each university……

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  1. ntesdorf says

    Jul 5, 2019 at 2:53 pm

    The Qur;an does wonders for academic standards.

    • mortimer says

      Jul 5, 2019 at 9:14 pm

      Yes, learning the Koran puts you on the same intellectual footing as Bedouins from the 7th century.

      • Indiana Tom says

        Jul 6, 2019 at 8:46 am

        I can tell that Indonesia will soon be sending a man to Mars. I am sure they will have the same vast intellect as Jetho Bodine on the Beverly Hillbillies.

        • gravenimage says

          Jul 6, 2019 at 4:44 pm

          The average IQ in Indonesia is 87. It is probably only as comparatively high as it is due to the presence of Chinese, Christians, Hindus, and other Infidels there.

      • Anjuli Pandavar says

        Jul 8, 2019 at 1:23 am

        Apostate Prophet has done a great take-down of “the book about which there no doubt”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yMD99gyr14

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 5, 2019 at 10:58 pm

      Hilarious, ntesdorf.

  2. mccode says

    Jul 5, 2019 at 2:57 pm

    Makes perfect sense, to Moslems that is. Everything possibly worth knowing is already in the Koran.
    In fact, why even bother attending university if one can receive all knowledge simply by memorizing a 7th century tome?

    • eduardo odraude says

      Jul 5, 2019 at 3:19 pm

      The basis of “Boko Haram” in Africa. Boko Haram means “books forbidden” — except of course for the the core Islamic texts, Qur’an, Hadith, Sira, and the greatest Islamic interpreters (such as Ibn Kathir) of those core texts.

      If what a book contains is not in the Islamic source texts, the book is deemed forbidden, and if what a book contains is already in the source texts, the book is deemed superfluous. A clever formula for the destruction of all human development.

      • Wellington says

        Jul 5, 2019 at 7:42 pm

        eduardo: I have been under the impression that “Boko” means West as in Western Civilization. Haram of course means forbidden. So, as I have understood matters, Boko Haram, the name of yet one more Islamic terrorist organization (there are a multitude after all and “congratulations” to the decrepit Islamic world for this), means, in effect, the West is bad. (Just like the Muzzie world to look down upon the greatest civilization of all time—so predictable).

        Would appreciate clarification of this by anyone out there—even Don McKellar.

        • mortimer says

          Jul 5, 2019 at 9:12 pm

          “BOKO HARAM” was explained in a paper by Paul Newman (PhD and JD), professor emeritus in linguistics at Indiana University and one of the world’s leading authorities on the Hausa language.

          Hausa expert Paul Newman says it derives from a Hausa word with meanings such as “fraud” as “inauthenticity”. Newman explains that when Britain’s colonial government began introducing its education system into Nigeria, seeking to replace traditional Islamic education (including replacing the Arabic script traditionally used to write Hausa with a Roman-based script that they also quickly called “boko”) , this was seen as a “fraudulent deception being imposed upon the Hausa by a conquering European force.”

          Western authorities such as Wiki and dictionary companies have muddied the waters by declaring that “Boko” comes from English “book”. NOT EXACTLY.

          “Boko” is the name applied to the Latin-alphabet system imposed on the Hausa language which replaced Arabic letters. The claim is that it is a “fraud deception” of Muslims. “Boko” was subsequently extended to all Western knowledge that contradicts Islam.

          History: “Boko Haram” started as the preaching of an Islamist calling himself “Maitatsine”.

          reference … (https://nationalinterest.org/feature/the-origins-boko-haram-10609)

          “Boko Haram’s story begins with a preacher named Mohammed Marwa, born in 1927. At about age eighteen, he moved to Kano, in what is today northern Nigeria, and began a career as a preacher. His sermons were extreme and often bizarre. He raged against Western culture and its popularity in Nigeria so virulently that he became known as Maitatsine, meaning “The one who damns.” He declared that reading any book other than the Koran was sinful and a sign of paganism.”

          “At first, Maitatsine was ignored by Nigeria’s political leaders, but as his sermons became increasingly antigovernment in the late 1970s, the government cracked down. The crackdown culminated in an uprising in 1980, where Maitatsine’s followers in Kano began rioting against the government. The city descended into what scholar Elizabeth Isichei described as “virtually civil war.” The death toll from the 1982 riots and subsequent military crackdown was over 4,000 and Maitatsine himself was among those killed.”

        • Wellington says

          Jul 5, 2019 at 10:51 pm

          Thanks for that, mortimer. I had been dimly aware that “boko” literally meant something like “fake” or “fraud” but that it has been used more loosely to mean the West because Western Civilization is looked upon as fraudulent by West African Muslims speaking Hausa. Thanks for the details.

        • gravenimage says

          Jul 5, 2019 at 11:01 pm

          Hugh Fitzgerald translates Boko Haram as “Books, him bad”–this is only slightly tongue-in-cheek.

        • Indiana Tom says

          Jul 6, 2019 at 8:40 am

          So Latin script forbidden? I suppose you could paraphrase Boko Haram as Latin based Western civilization stuff is bad.

      • Lilith Wept says

        Jul 5, 2019 at 8:37 pm

        And that’s why the great library at Alexandria was burned by MOSLEMS. The greatest accumulation human knowledge in the world and moslems destroyed it.
        And to,add insult to injury, one Moslem website I googled about this says that this did not happen, that moslems were not responsible for burning the library’s contents.
        Moslems not only co queen and subjugate they also steal people’s history. By re writing history to eliminate any crimes or horrors that Islam commits , and also claiming a people’s accomplishments and discoveries for moslems and Islam.

        The caliph at the time ,Omar inn Al Kattab was asked what his soldiers should do about the library’s contents…and he supposedly replied “ If these books agree with the Koran, they are superfluous they do not add to the Koran ,and should be burned if they disagree with the Koran , they are heresy and should be burned

        • eduardo odraude says

          Jul 6, 2019 at 5:38 pm

          It’s also why a UN Arab Development report from a decade or more ago found that a little country like Spain translates more books into Spanish in a single year than the whole Arab world translated into Arabic in the last thousand years.

          If a book’s content is already in the Qur’an, Hadith, Sira, or Tafsir, the book is superfluous. If a book’s content is not in already in the Qur’an, Hadith, Sira, or Tafsir, then the book is forbidden.

  3. eduardo odraude says

    Jul 5, 2019 at 3:13 pm

    And to think that Indonesia is sometimes touted as an example of the compatibility of Islam with democracy. Yeah, sure, if you think religious identity cards are compatible with democracy. The only reason that parts of Indonesia have sometimes been semi-compatible with democracy and a degree of freedom is that Muslims did not have the power to conquer Indonesia by force, but did manage long ago to convince the Indonesian king to convert. Almost the whole population followed and what resulted was a syncretism of Islam with local cults and religions, not pure totalitarian Islam. Indonesia is about as far away in miles as you can get from the Middle East, furthermore. But pure Islam seems to be growing increasingly dominant in Indonesia, unfortunately. The province of Aceh in Indonesia in particular has been instituting Islamic law. So sad.

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 5, 2019 at 11:02 pm

      Yep.

  4. John bolt says

    Jul 5, 2019 at 3:26 pm

    I don’t understand how a fictional book can better test one’s knowledge than actual tests on math and science. Indonesia is gonna turn into a third world country.

    • Westman says

      Jul 5, 2019 at 7:51 pm

      Maybe they will have a 10-year plan to put a Quran on the moon…

      My experience with memorization savants is they are short on logic and common sense. Biasing education towards Islam is like pouring too much salt in food; it ruins the outcome.

      • mortimer says

        Jul 5, 2019 at 9:25 pm

        Response to Westman: Islam contains a teaching called TAQLID … I recommend everyone master this teaching to understand the INTELLECTUAL PASSIVITY of Muslims and there LACK OF INTELLECTUAL CURIOSITY.

        -Taqlid (blind imitation or blind adherence) is based on an absence of critical activity on the part of the believer and acquiescent intellectual passivity to the Islamic sheikh.

        -Taqlid is a doctrine in Islamic theology referring to the acceptance of a religious ruling in matters of worship and personal affairs from someone regarded as a higher religious authority (e.g. an ‘ālim) without necessarily asking for the technical proof.

        Key Quotes: “He (Mureed) should remain in submission and with respect and dignity to his expert Shaikh just as a mayyit (dead body) is in the hands of the one who gives it ghusl.”

        “Annihilate all your wishes, desires and intentions. Submit yourself to your Shaikh. Do not raise the slightest objection against the taleem (teachings) of your Shaikh.”

        (From Irshaadul-Mulook under the heading, ‘Obedience to the Shaikh’)

        • gravenimage says

          Jul 5, 2019 at 11:02 pm

          +1

        • Westman says

          Jul 6, 2019 at 2:45 am

          Taqlid sounds like the German model for education of 1936.

        • gravenimage says

          Jul 6, 2019 at 4:46 pm

          Actually, German education was very good at the time–with the glaring exceptions of politics and ethics.

        • eduardo odraude says

          Jul 6, 2019 at 5:49 pm

          What you point out, mortimer, is based, is it not, also on some verses and/or hadiths that say that once something has been established (by Muhammad? by the Qur’an?) it is not for a Muslim to question it, but only to follow it with absolutely no reservations. Do you recall which Qur’an verse/s say that? I can’t find it at the moment.

        • eduardo odraude says

          Jul 6, 2019 at 6:05 pm

          Here it is, Qur’an 33:36

          Muhammad Asad translation:
          Now whenever God and His Apostle have decided a matter, it is not for a believing man or a believing woman to claim freedom of choice insofar as they themselves are concerned: for he who [thus] rebels against God and His Apostle has already, most obviously, gone astray.

          M. M. Pickthall translation:
          And it becometh not a believing man or a believing woman, when Allah and His messenger have decided an affair (for them), that they should (after that) claim any say in their affair; and whoso is rebellious to Allah and His messenger, he verily goeth astray in error manifest.

          Yusuf Ali translation (Saudi Rev. 1985)
          It is not fitting for a Believer, man or woman, when a matter has been decided by Allah and His Messenger to have any option about their decision: if any one disobeys Allah and His Messenger, he is indeed on a clearly wrong Path.

        • Anjuli Pandavar says

          Jul 8, 2019 at 1:08 am

          Thank you, Mortimer. Well laid out.

          “-Taqlid (blind imitation or blind adherence) is based on an absence of critical activity on the part of the believer and acquiescent intellectual passivity to the Islamic sheikh.”
          —
          This, exactly this, is what made madrassa Hell for me. I broke down in tears quite literally every single day, before I could get half-way through a single sentence of the Qur’an. I begged my parents to allow me not to go, and distinctly remember their distress. Eventually, my father asked the sheikh to go easy on me because I have “nerve troubles.” I was only a child, but I was really perplexed by what my dad had said. At secular school, I was always top of my class with no nervous problems at all. I realised many years later, that that was the moment I had lost my innocence.

  5. No Muzzies Here says

    Jul 5, 2019 at 3:26 pm

    They believe that their “holy book” contains everything that anyone ever needed to know. It is a manual for living, and dictates every action. So no one needs to learn anything but what’s in the “holy book.”

    • eduardo odraude says

      Jul 5, 2019 at 4:18 pm

      Yes, when combined with the hadiths. Only a very small percentage of Muslims are “Qur’an only” Muslims. Without the hadiths, a Muslim can’t even practice all 5 pillars, because they are not all described in the Qur’an.

  6. FYI says

    Jul 5, 2019 at 3:26 pm

    A more intelligent exercise,but beyond the capacity of most in the islamic world,would be to see if they can find the Commandments of God and learn THEM by heart since the koran teaches its ok to violate them.

    note the Sixth commandment:thou shalt NOT commit murder
    note how the koran k2:191 teaches the opposite.
    So what LAW do you follow?
    You follow God’s Commandments of course ,not Al Lah the BEST of deceivers,the pagan Arab god of islam.

    The information is in the Bible;and on the basis that the koran ironically tells muslims to consult it{ k10:94}
    you should perhaps oblige Al lah…

    Exodus 20 v 1-17

    The EXODUS 20 EXPERIENCE for muslims

    Note that the koran TOTALLY disagrees with God’s Laws.
    the koran permits adultery k4:24,stealing,lying ,murder etc.

    Al Lah{“the BEST of deceivers” k3:54}isn’t the SAME as the actual Biblical God.

    can you get it yet?
    What stage are you at in the 5 stages of islamic apostasy?
    If you can’t figure it out,you are at stage 1and will remain in a loop between 1 2 and 3.
    If you can figure it out,you are at stage 4
    #1DENIAL
    #2ANGER
    #3DOUBT
    #4REALIZATION
    #5ACCEPTANCE

  7. DHazard says

    Jul 5, 2019 at 4:21 pm

    This policy, no doubt, will lead to a second Golden Age of Islam since memorizing the Quran prepares a person for work in every field. And it’s fair to the non-Muslim applicants as well, preparing them for a life as the second class citizens they will eventually become.

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 5, 2019 at 11:03 pm

      Ha ha

  8. Mr. Cohen says

    Jul 5, 2019 at 4:36 pm

    “… [Al Qaeda] recruits would fill out forms describing:
    their health, age, family, and education.

    Religiosity was also measured, with recruits asked
    how much of the Qu’ran they had memorized.”

    SOURCE: Al Qaeda, the Islamic State,
    and the Global Jihadist Movement: What Everyone
    Needs to Know
    (chapter 3, page 60) by Daniel Byman,
    Oxford University Press, year 2015, ISBN: 019021726X (paperback)
    ISBN: 9780190217266 (paperback) ISBN: 0190217251 ISBN: 9780190217259

    PERSONAL COMMENT:

    Please show this quote to people who say that
    there is no connection between terrorism and Islam.

    ===================================
    http://www.algemeiner.com/2019/04/30/stop-using-poverty-to-justify-terrorism/

  9. Emilie Green says

    Jul 5, 2019 at 4:49 pm

    “Doc, have you ever done this operation before?”

    “Don’t worry. I was admitted to medical school and then got my medical license because I was able to recite the Qur’an. Allah will guide my hands. And if not, then it was Allah’s will.”

    • James Lincoln says

      Jul 5, 2019 at 6:50 pm

      And to think I went to medical school and completed residency the hard old-fashioned way…

  10. CRUSADER says

    Jul 5, 2019 at 5:07 pm

    Hoping this Hafiz allowance doesn’t become a trend
    at Medical Schools….
    nor
    at missile launch stations…

  11. Angemon says

    Jul 5, 2019 at 6:29 pm

    State universities are offering test-free entrance to hafiz (Quran memorizers) through their “achievement path” programs, in which high-achieving students in academic and arts fields can skip the regular joint entrance tests and university-administered entrance tests.

    Remind me again why the islamic world is lagging hopelessly behind the Western world on matters of science, technology or progress… Oh, right – not acknowledging the “miracles” in the quran and not following islam close enough…

    • Raja says

      Jul 6, 2019 at 12:12 pm

      Muslim zealots are such wonderful people they can lust after the women of the vilest of creatures of allah. They can beg, borrow and steal all the properties and inventions of the vilest of creatures of allah, the god who is evil.

      Isn’t this hypocrisy at its worst?

      By the same yardstick I make fun of “higher” caste men in India who won’t mind having a woman of “lower” caste as a “keep” or concubine. They just laugh at it or grin. But with Muslims you can risk your life. What a huge difference !!!!!!!!!!

      • gravenimage says

        Jul 6, 2019 at 4:48 pm

        There is nothing hypocritical about this. Islam has always preached that Muslims can rape, rob, and murder Infidels.

  12. PRCS says

    Jul 5, 2019 at 6:53 pm

    International Qur’an News Agency: Issue 2227
    No changes to Qur’an yet.

    International Qur’an News Agency: Issue 3139
    No changes to Qur’an yet.

    International Qur’an News Agency: Issue 4018
    No changes to Qur’an yet.

  13. duh swami says

    Jul 6, 2019 at 7:01 am

    The Quran is a dark and evil fairy tale, whispered into the ear of a psychotic Arab, by an incoherent angel named Gabriel…Allah actually had little to do with it…

  14. Beneath the Veil of Consciousness says

    Jul 6, 2019 at 10:35 am

    I’d offer the same advantage to someone who could memorize my washing machine repair manual, but whose counting (at least the manual serves a function in the real world).

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 6, 2019 at 4:48 pm

      🙂

  15. Raja says

    Jul 6, 2019 at 12:01 pm

    I see RED here. They want to discriminate against infidels and favor the Muslims with hassle free education. (To hell with quality) This is also an incentive to skip studies and to just memorize the Koran thus encouraging infidels to follow.

    Shariah in action? Muslim nations just have to keep doing something to glorify injustice and the devil.

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 6, 2019 at 4:49 pm

      It is similar in Malaysia–a certain number of top spots at universities are simply reserved for Muslims.

  16. Eric Jones says

    Jul 6, 2019 at 1:38 pm

    This is where Islamic backward thinking comes from. Why Muslim countries are technologically behind non – Muslim ones. For the most part Muslim societies have not made scientific and technological advances on their own. In some cases Muslims have stolen science and technologies from the dhimmis they have conquered.

  17. Abraham says

    Jul 6, 2019 at 5:17 pm

    Muslims lack common sense and the ability to problem solve because of their Satanic religion that teaches them to accept all teachings of their religious leaders. They have no free will and therefore must act in a negative, violent and narcissistic way. After all, Mohammed wrote the Koran in order to give his evil deeds legitimacy under Islamic law.

  18. Lydia Church says

    Jul 6, 2019 at 6:31 pm

    In a nutshell:
    preferential treatment for muslims.

  19. infidel says

    Jul 6, 2019 at 9:57 pm

    Terrorists being rewarded!!! VOW!!! It takes only so much for these so called Islamic democracies to show their true colors…

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