In the U.S., we regularly see Muslim groups opposing counterterror measures, and this story shows that this is an international phenomenon. Muslim groups in the West consistently assert that they oppose terrorism (without ever specifically defining what it is), but often also oppose any attempt to do anything about it.
“Muslims lobby oppose school anti-terror law,” by Julius Otieno, The Star (Kenya), July 12, 2019 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
Muslim leaders have rejected the proposed amendments to the anti-terrorism law that requires teachers and parents to watch over their children to ensure they are not radicalised.
They poked holes in the Prevention of Terrorism (Amendment) Bill, 2018, saying the proposals only seeks to ‘criminalise’ parents and headteachers.
Led by Supreme Council of Kenya Muslims chairman Yussuf Nzibo, the leaders presented their memorandum to the clerk of the National Assembly Michael Sialai. The memorandum was received by the House’s legal director Jane Nyaboke.
They said the bill, sponsored by nominated Senator Naomi Waqo, violates the Constitution and will hurt the war on terrorism.
The bill state parents would be responsible for monitoring the activities of their children after school hours and during weekends and holidays to ensure they are not lured into extremist groups.
It mandates the parents to immediately report to the school or police if their children go missing.
The proposals also require school heads to immediately report to the National Counter Terrorism Center or police if a student disappears and is believed to have joined a terrorist group.
School managers will be required to keep an updated record of all students and ensure that teachers and other staff are trained to recognise vulnerable students likely to be drawn into radicalisation.
School regulators will establish ways to spot, deradicialise and reintegrate students found to have been involved in extremism, the bill says.
But the leaders faulted the proposals, saying the bill seeks to transfer the accountability for radicalisation from state agencies to parents, school administrators and teachers….
Anjuli Pandavar says
Likewise, Western proxy jihadis (infidels defending Islam) consistently assert that they oppose terrorism (keeping in mind that what “Palestinians” do doesn’t count as terrorism), but will equally consistently find fault with whatever measure is proposed to fight terrorism (read: the measure in some way associates Islam with terrorism — Heavens forbid!) They never offer any way of fixing the measures they find fault with and never propose any workable alternatives of their own, thus opposing any attempt to do anything about terrorism.
infidel says
Absolutely and this is the double and triple games that Muslim play with infidels all the time.. The Chinese treatment of these vile creatures is the best…. no questions asked … no questions taken?? Just ruthless execution of the laws… take it or leave it!!!
Anjuli Pandavar says
and razing mosques to the ground, a blindingly obvious necessity.
william carr says
Perfectly sensible proposals, after all who is in a better position to monitor children than their parents and teachers and it is in faat their responsibility, knocked down by ignorant old men. No doubt the fact a woman sponsored the bill inflamed their reponse to it. How dare she meddle in men’s affairs?
In my opinion colonialism ended much too soon and in a precipitate manner. You only need to look at Western Papua or Irian Jaya where non Asians are ruled over despotically by Muslim Asians
mortimer says
Why do you think Muslims don’t criticize terrorism? Because Islamic terrorism comes from Allah and Mohammed.
1) “TURHIBUNNA” (terrorize them) Koran 8.60
2) Mohammed said: “I have been made victorious by means of terror!” (Sahih Bukhari V4B52N220)
Wellington says
Of course they would.
Nothing new here.
mortimer says
Agree: “nothing new”. In a similar vein, CAIR told US Muslims not to make reports on jihadists to the FBI. The Muslims of Kenya are promoting a DEFENSELESS situation where the eyes and ears of Kenya are unable to detect nascent signs of jihadism (the ideology that says jihad is every Muslim’s most important work).
The said Muslim leaders want the jihad to go forward unopposed and want no one to dissuade Muslims from the jihadist ideology.
How would investigating potential terrorists harm the fight against Islamic terrorism? It would not harm it, but it would produce information leading to the arrest of plotting terrorists.
CRUSADER says
Look at what they hope to gain from it.
Terrorism advanced Islamist agenda in:
Algeria and “Palestine”…with help from Soviet style tactics
Terrorism advanced Communist agenda in:
South Afrika …with help from Soviet style tactics
….so it goes on….
We are ever in a fight in this material world.
And so, it falls in our laps, we who are paying attention
— it becomes incumbent upon us to armor up for the Good Fight !
Jake Jacobs says
Apparently, Samoa has stumbled upon a 100% foolproof prophylactic for Muslim Terror Attacks. It is so simple, I’d like to see its ubiquitous implementation.
infidel says
Sir.. could U kindly elaborate what Samoa has done or provide a link. Would be obliged a ton. Thanks
Jake Jacobs says
A Muslim demographic of zero; not a singleton one.
It seems that Margret Mead [Growing up in Somoa, a seminal text ] did genuinely stumble upon a version of paradise.
Jake Jacobs says
Close, but no cigar. Coming of Age in Samoa. Forgive me, I’m old.
gravenimage says
I’m afraid Margaret Mead was taken in by a pretty obvious hoax. For one thing, she never thought to wonder if what she was being told was true why there weren’t mass out-of-wedlock pregnancies in a society with no birth control.
CRUSADER says
The Islamic population of American Samoa is negligible, but the territory’s policy on Muslim travelers gained them international attention in the early 2000s. In 2002 American Samoa placed restrictions on Muslims entering their territory without the express permission of the Attorney General of American Samoa.
The restrictions applied to those arriving from 25 nations with Muslim populations, including nearby Fiji which has a 7% Muslim minority. Fiji was removed from the list at the insistence of the Fijian government in 2003.
CRUSADER says
History of Islam in Samoa
The beginnings of Islam in Samoa go back to before 1985, when a few Muslim expatriate workers worked either for the government or for one of the UN programs. However, it seems like their numbers were insignificant and they didn’t have any influence whatsoever on the local population.
During the mid-1980s, Islamic da’wah organizations, such as the Saudi-based World Assembly of Muslim Youth (WAMY) and the Regional Islamic Da’wah Council of Southeast Asia and the Pacific (RISEAP), which is based in Kuala Lumpur, have been active in the Pacific and through its activities Samoan natives started to convert to Islam.
The first native Samoan who converted to Islam was Ilias Vole. He converted to Islam in mid-1985 due to the efforts of the WAMY director in New Zealand, A.R.Rasheed. But later on, he converted back to Christianity. Nevertheless, more native Samoans followed suit and converted to Islam in the coming years. In 1987, Ahmed Schuster and his family converted to Islam and in 1992, he and his wife performed the pilgrimage to Meccah and al-Madinah. In 1990, Mohammed Daniel Stanley and his family converted to Islam, partly through the activities of RISEAP and A.R.Rasheed.
Already in 1986, the Samoan Muslims established the Western Samoa Muslim League. Its current president is Mohammed Daniel Stanley a.k.a. Mohammed Bin Yahya a.k.a. Laulu Dan Stanley. He is 64 years old and a well known accountant and auditor who operates his own accounting firm.
As the head of the Samoan Muslim community, Mohammed Daniel Stanley has had one room of his house at Vaiusu Village, which is located next to Apia, as an Islamic Center and a mosque. The Islamic activities involve general teaching of Islam and nightly Qur’anic lessons and the Friday prayers have been led either by Mohammed Stanley or by his son, Anis.
Mohammed Daniel Stanley has been working hard to propagate Islam among the Samoans. For a period of time, he had a weekly column in the leading Samoan newspaper titled “the message of Islam”.
In addition, he translated a booklet written by Dr. Jamal Badawi — an Egyptian born Muslim Canadian author, preacher and speaker on Islam – titled “Muhammad in the Bible” into the Samoan language. WAMY and RISEAP have been actively helping Mohammed Daniel Stanley in his da’wah work by occasionally sending him money and translating Islamic materials into the Samoan language.
Another outside Muslim organization which has been engaged in da’wah activity in Samoa is the New Zealand based Rasheed Memorial Dawah Trust. According to the website of the Rasheed Memorial Dawah Trust, its purpose is “to educate and engage people in Islam and in our communities, with a vision of achieving more peaceful, progressive communities by utilizing the heart of Islamic practice. We bring our aims to life by being active in specific, selected areas, notably interfaith dialogue (Salamah), religious education (Uloom), ecology (Mizaan) and charity (Ansaar).
RMDT was originally founded by Abdul Rahim Rasheed QSO (1938-2006) and was rededicated to him after his death. The Trust operates primarily in Auckland, the largest city in New Zealand, as well as in some Pacific islands such as Fiji, Tonga and Samoa. RMDT collaborates closely with like-minded groups in New Zealand, Australia and further afield.[10]
The Fiji Muslim League has been involved in helping the small Samoan Muslim community to give Islamic education to its children. In the past, the Fiji Muslim League provided scholarships to six Samoan students to study in Muslim colleges in Fiji and one of them graduated with a certificate in Electronic Engineering from the Islamic Institute of the South Pacific.
The Samoan Muslims have been an inseparable part of the overall Samoan population, which is mostly Christian. This was best shown following the tsunami that hit Apia and the rest of Samoa on September 2009. The Western Samoa Muslim League with the help of Al-Ghazzali Centre, which is based in Sydney, and the Rasheed Mamorial Dawah Trust from Auckland donated two truck loads of aid to the emergency office in Apia for emergency distribution to victims of the tsunami. The two organizations also sent ten volunteers, including lawyers, accountants, and IT professionals, to help rebuild Samoa.
They visited villages across Falealili and Aleipata, offering assistance with clearing damaged areas and helping families rebuild makeshift homes. They also helped in Vaiusu with Samoa’s biggest Mangrove project, planting 1000 mangrove seedlings before returning home. Moreover, Muslims organizations in Samoa, New Zealand, Fiji, and Australia made a coordinated effort to send family food packs from Fiji, each pack containing food to feed a family of eight members for one week.
Indeed, the best explanation for this solidarity between Muslims and followers of other religions in the Southern Pacific was given by the Auckland lawyer and Secretary of the Rasheed Memorial Dawah Trust, Aarif Rasheed, who said that the South Pacific community is a relatively small one in which communities needed to support each other regardless of race, faith or other differences.
Challenges Facing the Samoan Muslim Community
The small Samoan Muslim community is facing a lot of challenges going forward. According to a situation report on the Muslim communities in Tonga and Western Samoa prepared by the director of the Fiji Muslim League’s Da’wah Department, “there is a decline in Muslims’ numbers in Samoa due to migration and lack of support which caused some of these converts to slowly neglect Islam and they converted back to their old religions or are no longer members of any religion”.
Moreover, according to the same report, other obstacles and challenges facing the Samoan Muslims are: “the Ahmadiyyah and Shi’a remain a great threat to this Muslim community; the social life and the family ties put great pressure on the new young converts to Islam.
They have to follow the custom and norms of the society; when the young Muslims attain the age of marriage they find it difficult to get a Muslim partner and this result in marrying a non-Muslim. This results in he or she may abandoning Islam”.
In addition, Mohammed Daniel Stanley has been outspoken against the possible spread of radical Islam to Samoa. Already in January 2003, he praised the directive issued in December 2002 by Fiti Sunia, the attorney general of neighboring American Samoa, according to which people from 23 identified risk countries (including Middle Eastern countries, Pakistan and Fiji among others) must receive his special approval before entering the territory.
Mohammed Daniel Stanley said that American Samoa being a US territory could be a target for terrorist attacks. He said that Samoa should implement the same restrictions or, at least, should have some control over the whereabouts of these foreigners since their intentions were unclear.
He was afraid that since tourism was at the time a major source of income for Samoa, an incident similar to the Bali bombing, which took place on October 12, 2002 and which resulted in 202 people killed and 240 people injured, happened in Samoa it would devastate the economy.
Mohammed Daniel Stanley was also involved in the preparation of security measures during the 2007 South Pacific Games. Later on, following the killing of Osama bin Laden on May 2, 2011, he said that Osama bin Laden got what he deserved, but warned that revenge action taken by al-Qaeda might reach Samoa’s shores.
Mohammed Daniel Stanley said that Osama bin Laden “deserved it because he put us [Muslims] all in danger. It’s a good thing that people like this causing problems for all the innocent people in the world get what they deserve.
And the problem is that there are a lot of uneducated Muslims who will consider him a martyr and it’s those people who will create more danger later on. What we’re worried and concerned about are new leaders who come up and start new problems. New terrorism approaches using the name of Islam when what they do has nothing to do with Islam”.
Mohammed Daniel Stanley further said that “although separate from local police and law enforcement, discussions in Our Centre is geared so our Muslim community understand the existence of Pakistani and Bangladeshi connections here in Samoa”. Therefore, the Islamic Centre will be monitoring those people and their whereabouts so that they will not be able to expose the Samoan Muslim community to what Mohammed Daniel Stanley termed as “any stupid un-Islamic activity”.
Summary
The preamble to the Samoan constitution describes the country as “an independent state based on Christian principles and Samoan custom and traditions”. Indeed, the Fa’a Samoa, or traditional Samoan way, has remained a strong force in Samoan life and politics. Despite centuries of European influence, Samoa has maintained its historical customs, social systems, and language, which is believed to be the oldest form of Polynesian speech still in existence.
That might be the explanation for the small Muslim Samoan community and for what seems like its dwindling numbers. Thus, the two factors that will determine the future of the Samoan Muslim community are the continuity of international Muslim funding, aid and da’wah efforts on the one hand and the impact of the clash which has been taking place between the Fa’a Samoa and the religion of Islam, which is foreign to this country and to its culture.
It should be mentioned that there are significant Samoan communities in the US, New Zealand, and Australia. In general, these communities maintain ties with family remaining in Samoa, and still consider themselves to be Samoans. These communities have also experienced a few cases of conversion to Islam. The most famous of them is that of Sonny William ‘Sonny Bill’ Williams, a New Zealand rugby union player and former rugby league player of Samoan descent on his father’s side, who converted to Islam in 2008.
Therefore, Muslim converts from the Samoan Diaspora might have an impact on conversion of their family members who still reside in Samoa to Islam.
https://www.samoaobserver.ws/category/samoa/21695
CRUSADER says
The Pacific islanders who want to ban Islam
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The leader of the Christian Church in Samoa has called for the country to bring in a blanket ban on Islam.
Reverend Ma’auga Motu, secretary general of the Samoa Council of Churches, said the council was pressing the government to prohibit the religion on the Pacific island.
Prime Minister Tuilaepa Sailele Malielegaoi last week called for a review of religious freedom provisions in the Samoan Constitution.
He indicated that the island’s supreme law could be edited to include more reference to Christian doctrines and teachings in the body of the text rather than merely in the preamble.
Meanwhile Reverend Motu said the prime minister should go a step further in banning Islam, and told RadioNZ the religion poses a future threat to the country.
He said: “We are not going too far, no. We are still wanting our own people to be prevented from this kind of influence.
“There are so many people who are good people but still there are some dangerous people among them who might come and threaten our peace.”
The reverend also asserted he did not mind about inevitable comparisons to Donald Trump, who proposed a ban on Muslims entering America at an election rally in December.
Samoa’s chief Imam hit back by saying Christians on the island should be more open to other religions and not discriminate.
Imam Mohammed Bin Yahya warned that Samoa might have difficulties trading with non-Christian nations if the country’s constitution was changed drastically.
During the 2001 census 0.03% of Samoan residents confirmed they were Muslim, with the island dominated by the Christian faith.
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/church-leader-calls-for-islam-ban-on-samoa-as-constitution-review-gathers-pace-a7046366.html
vtology says
We can read the handwriting on the wall. We’re not stupid. These “moslem leaders” (enemy) need to be rounded up and imprisoned.
Jayell says
“Muslim leaders oppose new anti-terror law”
“Burglars oppose intruder alarms”
“Kleptomaniacs oppose supermarket security guards”
“Alcoholics oppose police breathalyser tests”
Yeah, we’re all convinced, aren’t we? Any more stupid suggestions?
mike stevens says
Pity poor Kenya, having the neighbour from Hell: Somalia. No wonder they want (and need) tougher laws on Islam and Muslims.
ntesdorf says
Anti Terror Laws just cramp your style of attack when it comes to Jihad Time. No need for them under Sharia Law.
No Muzzies Here says
But we’re supposed to believe that Islam has no connection to terror! This appears to say just the opposite! It seems to be telling us that Islam IS terror!
Angemon says
Well, DUH!!! Where would the responsibility lie if not in the places where children spend most of their time?
Robert Laity says
Has anyone asked the leader of the Muslim Brotherhood in Kenya, Barack Obama, HIS opinion?
gravenimage says
Kenya: Muslim leaders oppose new anti-terror law
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How many times have we seen *this*?