“Mohammed Amin, until recently chairman of the Conservative Muslim Forum, told the newspaper Mr Johnson’s analysis risked ‘actively promoting hatred of Muslims.'”
Why? Johnson’s statement — which, by the way, he made in 2007, but there is no statute of limitations on Leftist/Islamic rage — was about Islam, not Muslims. If he had said that Christianity had left South America literally centuries behind the North, he would be lauded as a courageous and clear thinker; when I was in college, which was 100 years ago, this idea was promoted matter-of-factly in classes about Latin America, and never challenged. No one said that the professors were “actively promoting hatred of Christians,” however dubious their claims.
But there is one belief system that cannot be criticized, on pain of charges of “Islamophobia.” Note that Amin doesn’t say Johnson’s analysis is false. In a world where there are Muslim countries in which non-Muslims are put to death for blasphemy, and threats are issued to radio stations for featuring female broadcasters, and women are just now getting the right to drive, and there are honor killings and mutilation of the genitals of little girls, Amin can’t truthfully say that Johnson is wrong.
“Boris Johnson said Islam kept Muslim world ‘literally centuries behind’ the West,” by Dan Bloom, Mirror, July 16, 2019:
Boris Johnson said Islam kept the Muslim world ‘literally centuries behind’ the West, a newly-unearthed essay shows.
The favourite to be Prime Minister made the comments in a 2007 essay in his book about the Roman empire, The Dream of Rome.
According to The Guardian, he wrote: “There must be something about Islam that indeed helps to explain why there was no rise of the bourgeoisie, no liberal capitalism and therefore no spread of democracy in the Muslim world.
“It is extraordinary to think that under the Roman/Byzantine empire, the city of Constantinople kept the candle of learning alight for a thousand years, and that under Ottoman rule, the first printing press was not seen in Istanbul until the middle of the nineteenth century.
“Something caused them to be literally centuries behind.”
Mohammed Amin, until recently chairman of the Conservative Muslim Forum, told the newspaper Mr Johnson’s analysis risked “actively promoting hatred of Muslims”.
Mr Amin previously compared Mr Johnson to Adolf Hitler for describing burqa-wearing Muslim women as “letterboxes”.
A spokesman for the Muslim Council of Britain added: “Many of us would be interested to find out whether Mr Johnson still believes that Islam inherently inhibits the path to progress and freedom, and whether he still thinks Turkey should be admitted to the European Union.
“Especially after the extraordinary and false claims made about Turkish and Muslim immigration during the Brexit campaign.”
Mr Johnson famously backed claims that Turkey was joining the EU during the 2016 referendum campaign, despite talks being stuck in an early stage and Britain having a veto over new membership….
ntesdorf says
Socialist and Muslims just cannot handle the Truth.
mortimer says
They both place emotions about empirical facts. Islam is a case where the people made up their own facts.
J D S says
The old adage…the truth hurts…always comes home to roost when the truth about Muslims flies.
When they feel the pinch they start whimpering …not so…not so but most anybody that does a little research can always find out the truth…and that holds true for just about everything. Just take the Dems, the left, the socialists and on it goes…
Bob Jones says
RIGHT ON!!!
CRUSADER says
Would somebody please volunteer to send a copy of Robert Spencer’s
“History of Jihad” and “Palestinian Delusion” to soon to be Sir Boris ?
No Sharia says
So True!!!!
Michael Garant says
14 centuries to be exact.
mortimer says
Yes, and they want to drag us back to the 7th century with them. They love the tools created by our free, innovative societies, but they want to remove the freedom the creates the creativity itself.
No thanks! Anyone who doesn’t like modernity and the Western way of life can leave and go to Berzerkistan anytime.
Muslims refuse facts whenever they disagree with Islam. Muslims know the word ‘BACKWARDNESS’ … they hear it all the time.
J D S says
I just wonder ….do our elected officials ….really…want to embrace Islam and all its evils???
Looks like they do because they aren’t doing much to abate it…and don’t tell me that they can’t do anything….Well they can’t unless they have guts enough to admit that Islam IS evil further..if they don’t DEFINE what religion REALLY is, and our forefathers didn’t either, then things will only get
worse.
I just wonder how many of the U.S. citizenry really think that Islam should be classed along with the other SANE. “religions”???? and isn’t WE THE PEOPLE still valid.????
william carr says
They have contributed virtually nothing to civilisation. The oil which provides their wealth was developed by Western companies and everything they use was invented in Western and Chinese
industries. The only thing they gave to the West was coffee
Larry Larkin says
Not even coffee, that came from Christian Ethiopia.
Angemon says
And even that was, according to whatever few records there are, spoils of war.
Michael Copeland says
“No stronger retrograde force exists in the world”
Churchill
CRUSADER says
Boris could be the counterbalance to Mayor con-man Khan
durant says
The longevity of the appalling cult that conservative Islam/Islamism has become is hard to account for. Is it the physical threats contained in it’s attitude to apostasy; is it the warlike attitude to nonbelievers; is it the misogyny; is it the polygamy; is it the isolationism; is it the ever present threat to reformers; is it the low IQs resulting from cousin marriage; is it the fixation with hatred of Jews?
Is it all of these and more?
Rufolino says
“Soon to be Sir Boris ? Whatever gives you that idea ? You don’t automatically get knighted for being P.M.,.
Though if he does serve as PM he MIGHT be honoured by the Sovereign afterwards.
CRUSADER says
Yeah, Rufolino, in due time, you know, soon….
The point is to cheer on that he could very well be the next PM,
and if he keeps going in the trajectory which we at Jihad Watch
are wishing he would, he will be deserving of the title Sir Boris….
SB says
As my dad would say, “sometimes the truth hurts.”
Don McKellar says
But I thought Boris was doing so well sucking up to moslems and the great “contribution” they have made to the UK? And now he throws away all those warm and fuzzy good feelings and points out the obvious? Will he be banned from London now?
Don McKellar says
Oh, I read now that’s an old essay, before Boris got woke and threw honest discussion out the window.
Jayell says
“Will he be banned from London now?” Well, let’s all wait for the Great Khan of London Town (yea verily, for it is He that doth render wise counsel unto the mighty Presidents of the World) to pronounce on this matter – assuming he can manage to stumble his way through his prepared script in his usual monotonous third-grade fashion. His pet poodle at Scotland Yard won’t let him erect concrete blocks at each end of Downing Street to stop Boris getting into No. 10, so we’ll probably get a giant Boris Balloon to float over Westminster organised by Khan’s chums and permitted by him ‘in the name of free speech’.
Jayell says
“Mohammed Amin, until recently chairman of the Conservative Muslim Forum, told the newspaper Mr Johnson’s analysis risked “actively promoting hatred of Muslims”….”
Well he’s a bit behind the times himself, isn’t he? He clearly doesn’t realise that an increasing number of people in the UK have secretly or not-so-secretly detested this lot ever since they chose to grace us with their presence decades ago.
mortimer says
The people in Britain who aren’t braindead about Islam need to organize and get the message out. Islam’s inherent backwardness is indeed ‘retrograde’ as Winston Churchill said. Islam has no good contribution to make in Britain. Backwardness is the opposite of progress. Individual Muslims may make valuable contribution, but it is in spite of Islam, and not because of it. Just look at what Islam does for the backward countries that are Sharia dictatorships. Sharia law cripples innovation.
Jayell says
The problem with islam is that it is a fraud as crude as the base urges of the amoral criminal charlatan that purportedly founded it to promote himself and his avaricious ambitions. When you get what passes for an ‘ideology’ that’s clearly been motivated solely by unvarnished animal instincts and relies on a sham third-rate plagiarised pseudo-‘theology’ to give it the sort of dubious credibility designed to appeal to the lowest possible intellectual denominator and mollify the uneducated and gullibly supersticious masses, you don’t exactly have a formula for promoting a quest to reach the esoteric heights of human achievement. It’s like a infectious cancer of the intellect that reduces whole societies to a level cognitive inertia barely a level above their biological cousins in a zoological institution.
Carol the 1st says
And to boil down what you’ve nicely stated: Islam is an insult to the human race.
Surely we won’t be hoisted on our own petard and can figure out how to defuse this absurd mental plague? tic toc, tic toc…
mortimer says
To Jayell: “motivated solely by unvarnished animal instincts”.
Very good.
CRUSADER says
Donald and Boris can certainly learn fromm each other —
and by putting their heads together, they may straighten
out quite a bit, starting with combing what needs combing.
FREE Tommy Robinson!!!
Jayell says
Are you saying that Boris needs a ‘Donald hair style’? You do realise that Boris arranges each hair carefully to create that image? And Tommy Robinson needs to get the hell out of the UK as soon as possible. He’s done his bit, and he can console himself with the knowledge that Winston Churchill would probably need the same advice if he were around today.
CRUSADER says
Didn’t know that about Boris, thank you for that insider knowledge, Jayell.
Do you know his hairstylist? Or is Boris completely a do-it-yerselfer?
Tommy Robinson could do the USA some good. He needs to jump the Pond!
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
Boris should learn to keep his pie-hole shut when he feels the urge to tell the truth. Just look at Trump. Does the flop haired Boris want to end up under perpetual investigation for treason from the start of his administration?
CRUSADER says
We cannot hide the truth any longer.
We must speak out, no matter what.
Truth telling can be contagious…..
StacyGirl says
APF- what either Trump or Boris says or tweets would not stop the left’s endless witch hunts. Actions such as halting travel from countries without a functioning govt will be characterized as the famous Muslim Ban. Denying swarms of illegals entry, refusing to tolerate the UN, Iran, etc are all actions the God and Country Haters will violently protest. I say keep tweeting. It’s the antidote to our fifth column of liars.
Mark Swan says
Absolutely StacyGirl.
Mark Swan says
Alarmed Pig Farmer,
While it is obvious that Both could be a little less loose lipped—sometimes saying what
a great deal of the people really feel like saying (and they do not) is a real icebreaker for
everyone and a lifting of spirit, to free thinkers.
Our freedom to speak, think even, has been and is still very much under attack, by the
We Said So People—pushing back is required, especially by those in the public eye.
carolyne says
For those of you who ridicule the President’s hair I wonder what your hair looks like. Maybe you are bald. In any case the style of Mr. Trump’s hair is of no consequence. What matters is that he is likely the last hope to save the US as well as other Western culture. Wake up!
CRUSADER says
My hair resembles Jesse Watters, just sayin’….
And yet I also look smashing in a roundhead helmet, ‘a la Cromwell.
CHARGE ! Ramming speed !
Michael Copeland says
Does Mohammed Amin disapprove of “actively promoting hatred”?
He could begin closer to home.
“Muslims in the West must have an attitude of enmity & hatred of the kaffirs” – http://www.islamqa.com
“You should hate them, disown them and their religion” – http://www.Alminbar.com
“No one loves the kuffaar. We hate kuffaar” – Abu Usama, B’ham, Undercover Mosque C4
Christina Pansy says
Praying 5 times a day has a lot to do with it. That’ll decrease worker productivity by at least 50%.
CRUSADER says
Muzzies should learn to pray as Christians —
in communion with each other once a week on the Sabbath Day
and then throughout the week, moment by moment, in quiet pray
with spiritual meditation in one’s mind, always connected to the True God.
+ + +
CRUSADER says
Continuous Prayer
is the most productive!
Muzzies should just convert to the True God whom Christ consciousness
brings into mind and into soul. It’d be far easier on them whilst in Eternity.
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
Easier, maybe. But no throne, no rivulets of wine or cheese plates, but most of all no piles of pubescent houris and the perpetual erection. A guy’s gotta make his choices. Holy Prophet Mohammed knew how to incentivize.
revereridesagain says
Because, as we can readily observe, everyone on earth who lacks said “Christ consciousness” is an idiot incapable of any accomplishment.
Rarely says
Crusader.
And exactly which brand of Christianity should all the muslims convert to? Yours?
Maybe it would be better if they converted to some branch of Buddhism. You could too.
CRUSADER says
That description of moslem eternity ain’t the Eternity which Christ
offers — as the moslem version of things is only an other plane of
materialistic existence – similar to a booty crib…. wid laced pacifier
an’ all… yo! Why’d ya think dat ikhwan hidayat offers so much appeal
to those homies in prison?
Just reading about how Qi / Ki / Chi is the energy in everything…
But that, and a few other things, is what makes Buddhism so simple.
It doesn’t go deeply enough, but it does pave the way for a serenity
to start to begin to accept the message Christ brought…
Carolyne says
Continuous prayer is the most productive? Prove it.
CRUSADER says
How must I prove it to you?
Prove it to yourself, Carolyne.
“Oh, ye of so very little faith!”
(What of the mustard seed?)
You seem not to have been able to done so before.
I wish you well and good luck.
Blessings.
+ + +
abad says
+1
It is no secret that Christians who have a personal relationship with the Lord – that r-word which does not exist in Islam – have an special At-one-ness which brings the believer perpetual peace, no matter what the situation, dire or not. With this peace, comes the ability of clear thinking.
Thus the hallmark of a civilized society.
Whereas, a Moslem nation, look at one of those people the wrong way and they will cut off your head.
This is why Islam has no place in civilized society.
Moslems want to kill, let them kill each other in the Middle East. But they need to stay off our turf.
CRUSADER says
I shan’t ever know what “eddie” speaks about, as it is drivel.
However, on a different line of thought, President Trump has
indeed been transformed to quite an extent, when he was blessed
in Jerusalem, and he’s worked on his legacy and character strength
ever since. It shows! Have you not noticed the change in him?
CRUSADER says
Ah!
That r-word.
How redeeming!
Jayell says
Well, if “The fat Christian in the White House’,,,dreams of handling the Virgin’s pussy” he must have secretly converted to islam, because that’s apparently strictly a muslim obsession; except a muslim would demand 71 more of them. Isn’t it nice having these intellectually stimulating comments from Eddie?
CRUSADER says
Jayell, I think it is just plain old ….” eddie “
Halal Bacon says
it was the House of Medici that lead to the freedom of thought – Medici supported include Michelangelo, Raphael, Donatello, and Leonardo da Vinci.
CRUSADER says
How radical is freedom of thought?
Wasn’t it a Greek idea, at first?
(At least Victor Davis Hanson and Bruce Thornton have thought so.)
And things in Western civilization blossomed from there….and evolved….
and then the most freeing phenomenon occurred, which was brought out
in Greek language: the Gospel! + + +
Wellington says
Just proving once again that truth is a great enemy of Islam, and of Leftism too.
To Buttlims and Lefties I say you can’t handle the truth. Instead, when the truth is spoken about your two decrepit belief systems, you reply with charges of one kind of bigotry or another while not bothering to refute the contention du jour against your sorry-ass belief systems.
Same old same old. And more people are catching on to this demonization of anyone who dares criticize Islam or Leftism. I can only hope it’s enough people soon enough, otherwise the West will descend into a long darkness, courtesy of two great errors, i.e., Islam and Leftism. Hell, the West is halfway there already exploring the parameters of a new Dark Age.
I despise Islam. And I despise Leftism. Here’s why above all reasons: Both are eternal enemies of liberty while creating all kinds of darkness.
Rarely says
To anyone who bothers to think about it, the backwardness in muslim lands stands out like a sore thumb and it doesn’t take a Churchill to explain it to them — although it doesn’t hurt.
Every time they overreact to comments that are incredibly obvious to even the most casual observer they harm themselves. e.g. Does ANY human being with a double digit IQ or better believe islam is a “religion of peace”?
I hope they keep it up. Eventually the only people that will be listening and taking them seriously will be other muslims who were taught and still believe that Ali & Mohammed Wright invented the airplane.
Keep stating the obvious, sit back and enjoy the sparks.
gravenimage says
Leftists and Muslims enraged over Boris Johnson’s statement that Muslim world “literally centuries behind” the West
“Mohammed Amin, until recently chairman of the Conservative Muslim Forum, told the newspaper Mr Johnson’s analysis risked ‘actively promoting hatred of Muslims.’”
……………………..
Why do Muslims–and their leftist enablers–hate the truth?
Angemon says
Figuratively, not literally, I suspect. If not, I, for one, hope to look that good when I enter the three-digit age range 😀
CRUSADER says
Perhaps ole Boris is one of those great Biblical sages who seem to live
into the three digits?
It would be extraordinary if he hits his stride and becomes akin to a
contemporary version of Churchill….portly, portentous, powerfully persuasive.
Prabh108 says
??????Thine euphemism for morbid obesity indicative of kaljewg greed is uncalled for sir.
Some of us have low blood pressure and faint easily. I like ???CheddarSunCrisps?.
pr108❄️???????❄️???♥️
CRUSADER says
Prabh likes to demonstrate his IQ level, obviously.
CRUSADER says
Redemption.
How honorable that is.
How righteous that is.
How elatedly delightful the r-word really is!!!
Like the calm in the midst within the eye of a hurricane.
CRUSADER says
Normal range of IQ is between 90 and 110.
The IQ of 71, the lowest possible score you can get without being
mentally challenged.The definition of a mentally challenged person
is one who has an IQ of 70 or below. Therefore, if you have an
IQ of 71, you have the lowest IQ possible without being declared
mentally challenged.
There had been a sad fellow who got rated at 48, and was banned from having sex…
Where does all this put this discussion, however?
Goofy says
Without knowledge of Islam we cannot relate to the Muslims. Listen on YouTube to dialogues between Muslims and non-Muslim Islam experts like Chriatian Prince, David Wood or others.
tim gallagher says
Unless a person thinks that Shariah law’s barbaric rubbish, underaged girls being married off, female genital mutilation, women and girls being covered up from head to toe and looking like freaking tents, people being beheaded, gays murdered, to say nothing of non-believers being murdered just because they don’t believe in Islam’s evil version of what god is, and on and on, is acceptable and civilised behaviour, then what Boris Johnson says is obviously true. It is so self-evidently true that I can’t believe how the lefties continue to defend barbaric Islam. If the left had any integrity, they should hate Islam. Obviously, our own way of life isn’t perfect, but compared to Islam’s primitive, backward barbarities we are so civilised that we are way, way ahead of the followers of Islam, with its backward view of life. I hope Boris Johnson will continue to tell the unvarnished truth about Islam and ignore the whingeing and whining of the defenders of revolting Islam.
CRUSADER says
This may be only the beginning, tim gallagher….
Prabh says
I appreciate ur concern for muslim body parts but the reality is that actual Musalmann does not have to take part in any such demoniacal practices the roots of which r to be found in raksh who predate the hebrew aka jewism. Ur own mel Gibson stated “jews start all the wars” and all and sundry r aware of the truth serum property of Liquor, spirits etc.
Top Brahman divulged while sober that Jew lineage roots r Rakhshasic and modern so-called DNA testing shows some lineages have been damaged by raksh blood. Yolo people r weird. For the record personages incarnate wherever there is most affection. Love, PremRasPyar.
May this comment b printed not for egotistical reasons rather for clarification as opposed to confusion induced by Anglosphere matriarchal dysgenic multiculturalism.
We’re the dominant narrative and paradigm to be hindoo or better Dharmic, multiculturalism would work fine.
Sum Shanti???❄️?????????????????❄️❄️⛷
pr108 peace is passion (poor diction lol Tehran won’t b pleased?☄️of Ahimsic Aryavartasthan. Dhanvad ji.?☄️
Prabh says
Obvious typo errors
Were
Aum
No lol missing close bracket.
No editors wanted?
Paul says
“If the left had any integrity…” Good luck with that! The current day “left” are all postmodernists, and since postmodernism has no intellectual integrity, they have no moral integrity. How can it be otherwise?
tim gallagher says
Thanks for your comments, CRUSADER, Paul and Prabh. Alas, CRUSADER, I suspect you are right. I do, however, often think that, no, things aren’t going to get worse because even the slow learners are going wake the hell up to how vile Islam is, and what a threat it is, and our western countries will become more like the Visegrad countries when it comes to Islam and then our gutless governments will be forced to do the right thing and rid our countries of Muslims by stopping any more migration and by carrying out plenty of deportations. On Boris Johnson, I hope he tells the truth about Islam in the way that Trump tends to do. I mean the way that Trump just says what he thinks on issues. Paul, I get what you mean about the left and their lack of integrity. I feel that the left, supposedly dedicated to women’s rights and all the rest, should loathe everything about barbaric Islam. I feel that the left can object to free enterprise capitalism and lots of other aspects of our societies and they can fight against the conservative agenda, but how they support backward, barbaric islam is certainly beyond any logic at all. I guess they have that idiotic belief that all cultures are equally valid, thus barbaric islam is the equal of our civilised western societies, but, to me, this is beyond stupid. I get that the left have this huge hatred for the western world, but their support of Islam truly is unbelievable. It requires such a lack of any logical thought.
Paul says
Tim, according to postmodernists, logical thought is a tool of the patriarchy. Thus it is to be avoided like the plague, which was also probably a tool of the patriarchy. Dude, you are so unwoke! 😉
tim gallagher says
Thanks for the witty comment, Paul. Yep. I’m one of the most unwoke characters around. I only looked that word up a few months back. I used to hear a conservative commentator out here in Australia, Rita Panahi, and a couple of other people, who I enjoy listening to using this word “woke” and I thought what the hell does this term she is using mean? I find it a pretty terrible use or misuse of the English language because it’s apparently meant to mean to be awake to things or something like that. So I thought, well, just say you are a progressive, wide awake leftie rather than use this term “woke”. But I guess it’s useful once you know what it means. Rita Panahi and her fellow commentators tear into the agenda of the “woke” crowd. I don’t think this term “woke” will last for long. I’m probably wrong, but I think it’ll disappear within a couple of years. On the other point about how the postmodernists think logic is redundant and is a tool of the oppressive white patriarchy, I honestly can’t believe this unadulterated crap. I’m old, almost 70, so I’m way behind, but mainly I have a huge admiration for western civilisation’s achievements, especially all that hard won, logical scientific knowledge. I have little scientific ability myself but I can admire and appreciate the enormous achievements, which seem to be built on strong use of logic. When I hear about these postmodernists trying to trash this heritage, I really think they want to drag us all back to some barbaric past. They’re so destructive the way they are trying to trash all that hard won progress.
Carol the 1st says
Tim…I can’t buy that *responsible* people in positions of power are failing to study the in-your-face subject of Islam. Once they do they can’t fail to see it for a unique and nasty fear-mongering trap that compulsively destroys its betters. We can easily understand it when our leaders are afraid to speak out and stand apart from the herd but it’s much more difficult to understand those amorphous groups (like the Left) who pretend they can’t smell a skunk when it’s spraying its venom right under their noses and telling everyone to shut up and not utter a peep for fear of “disturbing the peace”. Maybe we’re too Christian and too used to projecting an ethical drive and aim onto our appointed daddy-figures who tend to tell us only what we want to hear while they line their pockets.
There’s surely much more organized corruption than the average person can even begin to suspect. I’m thinking of this because I just watched a year-old interview with Mafia boss Michael Franzese and his comments about greatly increased governmental corruption are something worth noting (18:40 to 21:17):
Mafia Boss Tells All – Jimmy Hoffa, JFK Assassination and Much More
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__LxwaAEaL8
tim gallagher says
Carol the 1st, thanks for the comment. I often comment here at jihad Watch that I don’t get how everyone hasn’t woken up to what a menace islam is to all non-Muslims and how it is nothing but trouble and is incompatible with our way of life. I can see how much of the media and other lefties spend their time running a protection racket for Islam, always telling us that terrorism and rape gangs and other Muslim barbarities have nothing to do with Islam, but are only things that a tiny number of Muslims carry out and nothing to do with mainstream Islam. I know some people who are pretty intelligent but, being left wing in their outlook, only view and read leftie media, and do seem to buy all the left wing media brainwashing, which amazes me because they are quite intelligent people. I don’t know whether our politicians truly believe the politically correct nonsense they spout about Islam’s being basically peaceful and compatible or not. I used to think that because we (in Australia) need Muslim oil, therefore our politicians had to be nice to Muslim countries and let in Muslim migrants, etc. Maybe that is what it’s all about. It takes some courage for politicians to speak up against Islam and I think they mostly want a fairly peaceful life. You know, it’s just too hard for them. They lack the courage. Or maybe there is a lot of corruption involved as you mention.. I do believe that there is something in what you say about how we in the Western world are too Christian or just too nice and very determined to be very hospitable to everybody, including Muslims, even though I find that so futile because of the nasty attitude Islam has towards non-Muslims. I find that a lot of people are very determined to be very tolerant. I guess many ordinary people are too busy to take much notice of what’s going on. I live in hope that most people will wake up. If we don’t and we keep letting large numbers of Muslims migrate into our countries, then I think it will end up becoming very violent when we have to sort out the problems we are going to end up with in all our countries. It would be so much better to avoid the trouble now by keeping Muslims out. Thanks for the Mafia video. I’ll watch it later on. when I get the time.
CRUSADER says
Prabh is kindly demonstrating: “primitive, backward barbarities” — when he types.
Tim, I don’t think that Robert Spencer believes we are in for a happier result as you seem to be presenting; but that time is not on wisdom’s side — except of course the bigger picture in regards to God’s Wisdom and what is in store for us all.
Rather “hopeful” statement of yours:
??? “slow learners are going wake the hell up to how vile Islam is” ???
tim gallagher says
Yes, CRUSADER, you may well be right. I guess it’s more a hope that I have. I keep thinking that the people in our western countries are going become more aware of Islam’s menacing nature and become more like the populations in those Visegrad countries. But, I can equally see things going very badly because, maybe, we, in the western countries, have become too civilised, a bit too soft or something like that, to be able to stand up to the Muslim invaders, who are pretty violent people and who seem to have a very strong belief in their Islamic garbage. As a Christian believer, though not a particularly good one I’d say, I agree with what you say about things turning out alright in the long run. I will say that I am seeing some of the leftists in my own family, most of my siblings are pretty left leaning, actually waking up to Islam’s horrible nature a bit more. Five or so years ago, they wouldn’t criticise it at all,but lately I’ve seen them develop a bit more awareness. I couldn’t understand what Prabh was trying to say. I suspect that Robert Spencer, whose work I admire enormously, might feel that people will wake up because it would be hard to work as hard as he does trying to wake people up to islam if he thought that it was all hopeless and barbaric Islam was certain to win this war. Anyway, whether Islam wins or we win, the fight has to go on.
sidney penny says
“Why? Johnson’s statement — which, by the way, he made in 2007, but there is no statute of limitations on Leftist/Islamic rage — was about Islam, not Muslims. ”
Mr Robert Spencer love your comment about the statute of limitations.
and yes a lot of people yes if you are talking about Islam you are talking about Muslims
CRUSADER says
What’s the statute of limitations on the Queer’an ?
Carol the 1st says
What’s the statute of limitations on muslims getting woke and dropping the bag of rubbish they’ve saddled themselves with?
Relic says
2007
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9swDiCr3fk
CRUSADER says
What is “Relic” wanting to be done?
bill53 says
islam has been centuries behind from the moment of its birth. It should have been strangled in the crib, but Christianity and Judaism were not that strong on the Arabian Penninsula at that time.
Prabh says
??????ur wrong??
u do not understand the ground level reality of Yezid Zarathustran territory at moment of inception of Musalmann dharm
Do u know neonate is not born sinner?
Do u know woman ought not work?
Do u know halal is actually pure milk ahimsa milk at that veggie?
Do u know body mutilation of procreative organ is hebrew as is slavery honour killing pornographic perversion of the sacred arts?
Do u like and value Gandharvan love romantic marriage, the only kind that is valid actually amongst genuine warriors? Warrior is not warlord sir.
That would b maddog maddox lol kidding not mYbe not haha
To conclude imagine a world without creeds colour cAstes
But only Prema
?I??????
IanB says
Congratulations Prabh, you win today’s Obscurantism Prize.
You are the Eastern equivalent of James Joyce.
CRUSADER says
Let’s rejoice and be glad for that!
Carol the 1st says
As Nora Barnacle might say “Why don’t you write books people can read?”
Paul says
Although it looks like a done-deal, we can only hope and pray that Boris actually gets the job. We desperately need politicians who aren’t afraid to speak the truth and with a touch of wit to boot (lie Churchill did!). I think we should all proudly refer to him as “Letter-box Boris”!
Bazz12 says
It is all so simple really; for some thousands of years people in the Middle East have been marrying their cousins as a very common custom.
The normal result is a lower average IQ.
Put together with Islam and the illogical its racist texts then it is any surprise that the Middle East is Millennium behind the west.
A quick way to check count the Nobel Prizes for the West for Israel and Muslim countries.
Kerry Wade says
Truth hurts, Boris was right. Me thinks the muzzies protest too much. Just look at their dress sense, their lack of manners, their low IQ, their vile temper, and so on and etc. Islam will never catch up with civilisation, it is impossible. One ex-muslim said to me that if Muslims were all in one country they would end up killing each other, says it all.
Terry Gain says
Islam? It is the ideology, stupid.
CRUSADER says
It’s also their STUPID ideology!
Bill Warner –>
http://www.politicalislam.com
CRUSADER says
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGuM38H9PQs#action=share
Terry Gain says
Some people say that Islam is a 7th century ideology, but in terms of enlightenment it is pre-Christian and pre-Judaic.
jca reid says
Bang on the Money, Boris! Islam is simply a Desert Nazi dogma that wants to take us ALL back to 7th. Century Arabia! PRE-Islam Arabs were quite foremost in Mathematics & the Sciences. Islam put a stop to that. They couldn’t even build their Mosques. The reason for their so-called, “Golden Age”, was that they allowed some scientists to live & pay the ‘Jizyah Tax’ & they simply plagiarised what was made by conquered civilisations e.g. India & areas of China. For their Mosques,they copied Byzantine Architecture & when they swept into North Africa, they realised they had to stop slaughtering the builders there, as their attempts at mosque building ended in abject failure. Since the inception of the Nobel Prizes over a 100years ago, the Muslim World, a population of say 1.5Billion, in the sciences have produced 2.5 Laureates. I am helping them out here by including Economics. The 0.5 was a Pakistani Physicist whose SUPERVISOR was a Jew! The other guys were also at US Universities. The Jews, population 14 – 15MIllion tops have produced over 150 Laureates! So, the Jews are something like a 100 times better! Even Scotland population 5Million have produced Laureates! In recent years….. the ATM Machine, MRI Scanners, Beta-Blockers. A recent controversial paper published by one of them dudes that cracked the DNA double helix, back in the 1950’s, on “Race & IQ”, stated: Muslim World Average IQ = 80. The Rest of the Developed World = 100 – 102. He found an ethnic group of Jews hit 115Average! Go to youtube.com & type in the Search Box, “Muslim Failure”. You will be overwhelmed by the responses! Here are some. they only take 8 -14minutes to watch:- ‘The Flat Earth of Ibn Baaz’; [he was THE TOP Muslim Scholar in Saudi Arabia]; ‘IRAQI TV Debate – Is the Earth Flat?’ & ‘Muslim School Science Education Failure.’ The latter is hosted by the eminent Physicist, Richard Dawkins. A book by this chap Sheindlin, “Questions that Muslims will not Answer’, is an easy, enjoyable read. It only exists in their own deluded minds that they are “supreme” over all other humans & our Leaders & societies kow tow to this!
infidel says
Even in India, Muslims are extremely backward, refuse to integrate, and of course lag far far far far behind Hindus in all parameters , esp in education and progress. We Hindus today are held back by a rapidly growing Islamic cancer of 20% and which is threatening to explode to 40% and beyond soon. These Muslims just breed like a nightmare….and of course always play victims and complain against the same Hindus and Hindu Govt who bend over backwards to accommodate almost all their constant demands. DISGUSTING PARASITES..
No Muzzies Here says
There is some hope for saving the UK if he becomes PM. That’s why the Guardian frantically searched for some words of his that they could use against him.
IanB says
In all the discussions and articles on this matter I have heard or read in the British media no one has even asked whether or not Johnson’s statement is TRUE. Mainly because in British media absolute, objective truth no longer exists, truth to journalists is relative and a matter of opinion based on subjective feelings and an aversion to causing offence, especially to protected Muslim feelings. On all available objective evidence Johnson’s statement is TRUE.
Don Ameche says
Boris Johnson’s statement is true. In fact it may be closer to 1000 years the muslim world is behind the West. So WHY does Boris say he won’t stop or even slow immigration ala Brexit if he is elected?
IanB says
Consider some of the important findings in recent Arab Human Development Reports and related studies:
• The total number of books translated into Arabic in the last 1,000 years is fewer than those translated into Spanish in one year.
• Greece — with a population of fewer than 11 million — translates five times as many books from abroad into Greek annually as the 22 Arab countries combined, with a total population of more than 300 million, translate into Arabic.
• According to a Council on Foreign Relations report, “In the 1950s, per-capita income in Egypt was similar to South Korea, whereas Egypt’s per-capita income today is less than 20 percent of South Korea’s. Saudi Arabia had a higher gross domestic product than Taiwan in the 1950s; today, it is about 50 percent of Taiwan’s.”
As Dr. A.B. Zahlan, a Palestinian physicist, has noted: “A regressive political culture is at the root of the Arab world’s failure to fund scientific research or to sustain a vibrant, innovative community of scientists.” He further asserted that “Egypt, in 1950, had more engineers than all of China.” That is hardly the case today.
The UN Human Development Report reveals that only two Egyptians per million people were granted patents, compared to 30 in Greece and 35 in Israel (for Syria, the figure was zero).
Similarly, the adult literacy rate for women aged 15 and older was 43.6 percent in Egypt and 74 percent in Syria, while for the world’s top 20 countries it was nearly 100 percent.
Q.E.D.
CRUSADER says
I’ve seen ’em in Greece, many bookshops still thrive in Greek cities.
They’d be thriving in Anatolia if the jerk Turks hadn’t given the Greeks
the atrocious boot out of Smyrna….
Linda Rivera says
Muslims are OUTRAGED when non Muslims OBEY God and tell the TRUTH about Islam.
Muslims want non Muslims to BREAK God’s Holy Eternal Law from the Ten Commandments:
YOU SHALL NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS.
Paul says
Most of the people here are probably already familiar with the book, but for anybody who isn’t, a strongly recommend “The closing of the Islamic mind”. It explains completely why no progress can ever come from any Islamic society. I found it so deeply disturbing that it took me several weeks to get over reading it. I remember going to the prenatal clinic with my then pregnant wife and seeing a Muslim woman there with a little boy of about 2 in a stroller and another on the way, and I thought to myself, “Poor little buggers, through no fault of their own, they will be Minds in the Iron Mask.”
KWJ says
I have watched videos via MEMRI TV where Muslims in Middle Eastern countries say, “We’re backwards” one being Saudi on Arab TV. But if a Westerner says the same thing this Muslim guy thinks it will cause hatred of Muslims as if it would be different than the Saudi man who said it or Muslims in Islamic countries who totally agree with Boris.
These are intellectual babies…Leftists and Muslims who get offended or worried that people will hate them. I’m sure those Muslims on the street with placards saying NO DEMOCRACY! SHARIA IS THE SOLUTION FOR MANKIND! Or the Muslims “protesting” outside the International Atheist Convention in Australia who had signs saying Atheists Go To Hell! Islam is the only monotheistic religion, Christopher Hitchins go to hell, Ayaan Hirsi go to hell or the self-appointed sharia police in Britain harassing Londoners for drinking and wearing short skirts. Or how about the calls to prayer so rudely waking up non-Muslims…I’m sure those people really really dislike Muslims since their sleep is disrupted. Muslims need to look at their own actions.
When you have many restrictions on people’s lives and shunned infidel cultures, it puts a damper on ingenuity and creativity since it all feeds on itself. Just look at how music developed in the US and England. Dance. Inventions such as the phonograph. If you don’t allow gambling there is no Las Vegas or Monte Carlo. Gambling was the draw, but there are shows, rides, hotels, etc. as a result. Just look at all the things Islamic countries didn’t do and still don’t. They adopted Western things but some still have roadblocks.
The Leftists are digging their own graves of unhappiness and dragging youth with them. Then you gave people like Bernie Sanders saying there are too many choices of deodorants. Leftists and Islamists want to take away choices and competitive creativity. You need graphic designers for all those deodorant labels.
If an Egyptian politician said regarding the Muslim Brotherhood that they would change Egypt’s culture and, “My daughter can go out alone at night, I don’t want to go backwards,” then his words should be heeded.
Those getting on the case of Boris are enemies of freedom. You just can’t keep dancing around the truth or facts. Muslims criticize our culture. They also have a holy book that tells them to hate those non-Muslim Leftists and others.
I suppose we should all push the envelope at this point and see what these totalitarian lovers do. Twitter and Facebook are already plummeting into darkness.
The youth need to get wise and rebel against their indoctrinators because they have nothing to lose.
Mark Swan says
I do not know what Mr. Johnson’s essay was trying to say on Muslims,
however, the rest of us had better make it clear to Muslims that they
will be tolerated as long as they are tolerable, we will not bend over
backwards to accommodate a backwards insistence.
They esteem and defend a manual for destruction, when no
good has or will come from it, this alone is detestable.
If they could drop their instruction to conquer and subjugate,
they would still have so very far to go to be accommodating
to non-Muslims.
They wear their obscene religion on their sleeves, but offer nothing
in exchange for the intrusion.
Feigning piousness, they offer no example of extemporary
good intent, when their numbers grow so will the bad intent.
We should make it clear—we can not yield to this.
Georg says
Robert Spencer was in college literally centuries ago. 🙂
Hope you’re healing well!
CRUSADER says
You call post-“Animal House” and “Blues Brothers” – collegiate era
a period of centuries ago? Literally?
Georg says
“when I was in college, which was 100 years ago”
Was making reference to this line, which is pretty funny.
CRUSADER says
He is very modest and self deprecating.
Which is something few of his critics are capable of.
Like the Sword of a MIGHTY MAN says
TRUTH does not care about one’s pride, arrogance, self aggrandizement, feelings, emotions, or even warped
thinking.
Boris merely spoke a historically validated empirical fact! This enraged the PRIDE, EMOTIONS, FEELINGS,
AND THOUGHTS, of the lunatic left and the fanatical Islamic Jihadist around the world who hate Jews, Christians, and anything having to do with the “west or our western civilization”.
AntiIslamicman says
Muslims outraged at the truth. However, they have only just allowed women to drive cars in Saudi. Ironically women are still covered in black bin bags even here in the west.
It’s all part of Islamic intimidation that’s not working as they just look trapped in the 7h century. So I guess Boris, who I am no fan of was correct in his observation. Islam is for Idiots only.