The initiative to criminalize and/or make socially unacceptable any criticism of Islam is already well advanced in the West. Here is a glimpse into the next step.
“Jakim, MCMC to monitor complaints made on those who insult Islam over social media,” Bernama, July 27, 2019 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
HULU SELANGOR, July 27 — The Islamic Development Department (Jakim) will continue to co-operate with the Malaysian Communications and Multimedia Commission (MCMC) to monitor any insults made on Islam and the prophet over social media.
Its director-general, Datuk Mohamad Nordin Ibrahim said that Jakim had officers stationed at MCMC to take the necessary action if there were any complaints from consumers on insults made against Islam and Prophet Muhammad on social media sites.
“We co-operate with MCMC under a special committee which was set up to study and monitor any complaints on insult to Islam and Prophet Muhammad,” he said after attending the 28th Jakim’s Darul Quran Convocation here today.
Prior to this, several quarters lodged police reports after the posting “Kiub Batu Itu Berhala” uploaded on Facebook by an individual using the name Wendy Loong viralled on the social sites.
Meanwhile, Mohamad Nordin said Jakim took cognisance of the incident and would channel the information to the police and MCMC….
Peter Buckley says
You don’t need to “insult” Muhammad. For devout muslims, merely revealing what Muhammad said and did, ACCORDING TO THEIR OWN BOOKS, represents an “insult”. That’s why Islam will not survive the arrival of the Internet.
So I invite JW readers to copy and paste the following onto any article mentioning “The Prophet”.No “insults” are necessary. No other comments are necessary. Just the following:
Thanks to the Internet, muslims can now read online the first biography of Muhammad, by the devout muslim Ibn Ishaq:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_Ishaq
If you read the biography, you will understand why so-called “extremists” do what they do (they are copying Muhammad), and why so many muslims are leaving Islam now they are finding out the truth.
Muhammad orders his son-in-law Ali, to behead Al-Nadr bin al-Harith on page 136.
Muhammad says that those who follow him will be given paradise; those who refuse will be slaughtered and sent to hell on page 222
Muhammad approves the stabbing of Uqba bin Abu Muayt on page 308.
Muhammad arranges the beheading of Kab bin al-Ashraf on page 364-9.
Muhammad personally beheads over 600 Jewish prisoners of war on page 464
Muhammad orders the torturing of treasurer of Khaybar tribe, Kinana on page 515
Muhammad orders the killing of Abdullah bin Katal’s and one of his singing-girls on page 550-1
Muhammad approves the murder of Asma bint Marwan on page 675-6.
Muhammad arranges the assassination of the old man Abu Afak on page 675.
Muhammad approves the murder of an old one-eyed Bedouin man, by Amr bin Umayya, one of his Jihadist thugs on page 674-5.
http://www.justislam.co.uk/images/Ibn%20Ishaq%20-%20Sirat%20Rasul%20Allah.pdf
Emilie Green says
Here’s an interesting highway billboard that does not mention Mo or Islam. Happened in 2017. But the Muslims said they were appalled by it and went through their typical outrage and antics.
https://s.aolcdn.com/hss/storage/midas/4cb601f39156de509cb77281c52f6e96/205348604/billboard002.jpeg
Factual.
Peter Buckley says
Yes. I remember that. The reaction from devout muslims was indeed hilarious. They KNEW who the billboard was referring to. This is the way to go. You don’t NEED to “insult” Muhammad. Just say and do stuff that forces muslims to face up to the reality of the awful religion they happen to be born into. In other words, you make them ashamed, and force them into a state of cognitive dissonance, which may well result in the individual muslim eventually leaving the faith, which is what is happening, EN MASSE, to muslims who have had a decent education. I quote again from the article about those two ex-muslims:
“During my studies, I learned to critically evaluate my own doubts. I came to the conclusion that I didn’t believe anymore. It felt like a WEIGHT WAS LIFTED when I was finally honest with myself about the fact that there are quite a few things in Islam that I dislike. I Ws no longer EMBARRASSED that I’D ALWAYS SORT OF HATED MOHAMMED, because I didn’t think he was a good role model as he was married to a nine-year-old girl.”
https://www.dub.uu.nl/en/depth/ex-muslim-%E2%80%98i-have-pretend-be-something-i%E2%80%99m-not-uu-when-other-moroccans-are-near%E2%80%99
In other words, there are clearly MANY MILLIONS of muslims out there with the same doubts, who are already effectively apostates.
Speaking of education, are you aware that many YOUNG devout muslims have been trotting off to Islamic schools, with the intention of confirming that Islam is indeed “true”, before going into the world to perform dawah, and convince everybody of the same? Hilariously, these “schools” are having the opposite effect, and said muslims are finishing their course as AGNOSTICS. Listen to what the muslim guy says from around 13 minutes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-pYPWc26Gk
J D S says
The very last person to receive prophecies from GOD was and is John and John’s Revelation tells it all….so where and whom did Muhammad receive his visions (?)from? Why, after Johns Revelation, would God need another prophet? All of Muhammad’s gobble de goop is null and void and the sooner the world realizes this the sooner we can get on with waiting for John’s prophecies to be fulfilled and if one looks closer at Revelations one will find Islam right there.
Francis Weber says
The perfect man, NOT, defective DNA.
Muhammad was WHITE!
http://quranx.com/Hadith/Muslim/Reference/Hadith-2340/
Muhammad was a dwarf and fat!
http://sunnah.com/abudawud/42/154
mortimer says
Response to Peter Buckley: Shara’s Blasphemy Punishment is Execution: Anyone may execute a blasphemer
From Sharia manual Reliance of the Traveller’ Chapter ‘O’ 11.10.05:
“The (DHIMMI) agreement is also violated (A: with respect to the offender alone) if the state has stipulated that any of the following things break it, and one of the subjects does so anyway, though if the state has not stipulated that these break the agreement, then they do not; namely, if one of the subject people:
-5- mentions something impermissible about Allah, the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace), or Islam.”
Sharia permits the murder of anyone who verbally opposes Islam, since they are at war with Islam:
“There is no indemnity obligatory for killing a non-Muslim (harbi) at war with Muslims.” -Reliance of the Traveller, o4.17, p.593
Islam thus endorses vigilantism.
Angemon says
Very few people would be in favour of insulting someone or their religion – fine, I get it. The thing is, “insult” may be in the eye of the beholder – if I say that muhammad married a 9-year-old (which is a demonstrable fact, at least under the assumption that muhammad existed) and someone feels insulted, is it an insult?
Peter Buckley says
Obviously not. Telling the truth cannot, by defition, be “an insult”. That is why Islam is unsustainable. Islam has started to die of shame already:
“…..after I’d delved into Islam, I found more and more things I couldn’t defend. Like the idea that a large part of the world’s population would be punished after death, because they had the wrong faith. Or the way women’s rights are handled within Islam. Additionally, I became interested in science, and I noticed science clashes with Islam a lot. I can’t believe in evolution and the story of creation at the same time. Some Muslims do. They’ll try to find texts in the Quran that imply God started evolution, but to me, it doesn’t make any sense.”
https://www.dub.uu.nl/en/depth/ex-muslim-%E2%80%98i-have-pretend-be-something-i%E2%80%99m-not-uu-when-other-moroccans-are-near%E2%80%99
The fact is, many of the world’s supposed “muslims” aren’t muslims at all. If you are young enough, you will discover this in your lifetime.
gravenimage says
This is only considered an insult if you are critical of it. If you were praising the “Prophet” for being so virile as to rape a 9-year-old child, everything would be fine.
DBM echo says
That’s the absurdity of it all. Your point is correct.
The more Islam is exposed, the more difficulty Muslims have in explaining it, even apart from the larger issue of trying to justify it.
The significance is that these Muslims are experiencing shame based on Western mores, and therefore must claim that they were “misunderstood” or that their remarks were, to use the Swiss Army knife of excuses, “taken out of context.” No, they were not misunderstood and nothing was taken out of context. A Surah 4:34 beating is beating and we all know what it means.
If Islam is so pure and so noble as its adherents repeatedly tell us, facts which should stand on their own without Muslims constantly having to “defend” Islam, then its purity and nobility should appeal to the intellect.
But that’s never the case. Islam cannot spread by any sort of intellectual appeal, explaining why its spread has only occurred by the sword, that is by force. Sura 4:34’s exhortation to beat disobedient wives by force is the household analog to Islam’s societal exhortations to beat the world into submission. Suras 9:5, 9:29, the verses of the Sword, among many others found in the Qur’an, prove my point.
Lydia Church says
The naked truth is never an insult. Truth is truth, period.
I’m not talking about walking up to a less than handsome man and saying,
“you’re ugly.” But if a man had sex with a girl who is 9 years old, then that is what he did. To say “He had sex with a nine year old” is not an insult, it is the truth. The shame lies with what the man did, not for merely pointing it out. That sort of crime needs to be exposed and punished. Furthermore, if one would add to it that “This is disgusting!” That would technically be both truth, (a fact), and an insult, as one righteously judges the sin for what it is. The issue of ‘opinion’ never enters this case.
mortimer says
DBM has observed that Muslims are embarrassed by Islam’s absurdities and in fact most of them live in cognitive dissonance. They know that Islam is in retreat and has too much wrong with it, including it’s medieval law code that cannot be updated in any way.
mortimer says
Angemon, Sharia law has its own logic which is different from our rules of logic. Sharia forbids ‘mentioning anything impermissible’. The intent of deploring, rather than promoting, Islam, is what makes you a blasphemer. Sharia law is Allah’s law, so you are a blasphemer when you express your opinion about Sharia. You are saying that you disagree with Sharia, so you have blasphemed it.
JMB says
(From Australia) In the late 1950s the UK as well as Australia and NZ sent troops to Malaysia then known as Malaya in what was a successful attempt to prevent a communist takeover of that nation. Perhaps we should not have bothered.
revereridesagain says
Six of one, half dozen of the other. Here in this country we’ve got plenty of Muslim-Marxist mixes.
Francis Weber says
100% correct but thanks to the Labor party and Al Grasby the filth has been coming in ever since.
Now we are seeing sectarian violence here!
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-07-24/melbourne-islamic-state-mosque-burners-sentenced/11279452
JMB says
Thank you for that link.
gravenimage says
Malaysia: Government agencies to monitor social media for insults to Islam and Muhammad
……………….
And remember–Malaysia is “moderate”. There is no freedom of speech in Islam.
Agostino Armo Pellegrini says
…(MCMC) to monitor any insults made on Islam and the prophet over social media.
I got a better idea, if they “monitored” in an unbiased manner the terror muslims do for islamic doctrine then they’d have more sympathy for those who insult it. To rational and moral people like myself I find much of what’s in islam to be despicable and worthy of the worst kind of criticism and mockery. I feel no need to pull punches for an ideology that is bereft of any worthwhile goodness and that teaches a KKK level of bigotry backed up by murder. Nothing deserves more criticism and insults than people who support and praise doctrines that bear the wisdom of a bigoted serial killer. Don’t misunderstand me, there are some flowery verses too, but they’re all rendered meaningless in the context of murder and bigotry and violence in which they reside. To praise islam for the little good it does actually contain is like praising the edibility of a turd for the undigested corn poking out from its brown and smelly mass. Muslims have decided that eating the corn is worth the turd, and the result has been mass murder and suffering by the 10’s of millions throughout history.
So I think I’m clear on the matter, I insult muslims’ religious beliefs because they deserve it. Islamic doctrine is childishly ignorant and violently bigoted, and those beliefs are causing mass murder and terror. Every time a muslim kills/terrorizes for their demon god they commit the highest insult toward others, and every time a muslim infringes on the rights of others for allah they insult our human rights. Good people who criticize or even mock islam don’t need monitoring, it’s muslims who should be monitored for nurturing hateful and murderous ideas that are causing all this justifiable fear and loathing in the first place. If you want to stop the insults and criticisms of muslims then the solution is simple: Stop the murder, terror, and intolerance muslims do against others–then trust me, the insults will stop. Until that happens don’t expect good people to stay silent in the face of so much bigotry and terror for allah.
mortimer says
Agree with AAD. We should expose Islam’s obviously invalid ideas, especially the ones that Muslims have most difficulty in defending. They are in retreat and know it. Their misogynistic death cult is backward and they know it. They cannot defend it and they know it.
Anjuli Pandavar says
Agostino, “it’s muslims who should be monitored for nurturing hateful and murderous ideas that are causing all this justifiable fear and loathing.”
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I agree with you 100%. It’s the one line our Western sensibilities find simply too ghastly to contemplate crossing. But *it is a line we must cross if we are to save ourselves*. I’ve been advocating this for a long time, and until we’re prepared to do this, we have no right to complain when a Muslim commits jihad mass murder and the police lamely come up with, “we had no evidence he was connected with any terror organisation.”
The list of excuses for not monitoring Muslims is long, from the practicality of monitoring millions of people (guess how many millions are monitored for “Islamophobia”) to the ethics of discriminating against people before they’ve actually committed any crime (if I openly declare myself a member of the Mafia, then I must expect to get closely monitored, whether I’ve actually committed a crime or not — I’ve set myself up that way; and never mind that the rule of law doesn’t protect critics of Islam). We can save ourselves a huge amount of time, trouble, expense and grief by simply keeping them out of our countries. Let monitoring start right at our borders. That is the safest and most responsible thing to do.
Lest I give the impression of drawing a moral equivalence between mass murder/mass rape and insulting Muhammad/Islam, I am not. In fact, this is exactly what the Malaysian government, the German Government, the French government, the Canadian government, and so many others are doing. No, that is not true. They say that insulting Muhammad/Islam is *worse* than mass murder/mass rape, and they are spending their resources accordingly. Can we finally look forward to the British state’s priorities shifting? Is this where London’s rampant knife criminals decant to Kuala Lumpur?
aDhimmiSaysWhat? says
Agostino, I gotta tell ya…. That was the GREATEST corn analogy I have ever heard. When I use it in the future, I will be sure to quote you. Well done, sir!
Lydia Church says
Coming soon to a town near you…
mortimer says
Muslim leaders know they cannot successfully defend Islam from valid criticism, so they block all criticism.
The exact wording of Sharia’s anti-blasphemy prohibition is to ‘mention something impermissible’ about Islam or Mohammed. It can be innuendo or even quoting authentic Islamic passages that are unflattering with the intent of exposing Islam’s vile substance.
Islam is indeed so vile and error-filled that it cannot be defended by any argument. Islamic leaders have all but stopped engaging in debates because they inevitably lose to a well-informed counterjihadists.
FYI says
Always remember when you hear muslims complain about muhammed being ridiculed that..
muhammed had a WINGED FLYING HORSE WITH A WOMAN’S FACE AND A PEACOCK’S TAIL called buraq.
Did anyone see buraq?No
Did anyone see mo splitting the moon in half?No
Did anyone see muhammed receiving the koran?No
And do you know what he did with this fantastical beast?
{Google buraq to see what it looks like:note the depiction of the “prophet” in what some might consider cartoon-like images and that… they are from islamic sources.So you see this nonsense about not being allowed to depict muhammed when depictions already exist in the islamic world}
koran 17.1
He flew from mecca to Jerusalem to visit a mosque ..that didn’t exist in muhammed’s time.
So he flew on a fantasy beast{which never existed} to visit a mosque{that didn’t exist in mo’s time}
And this is in the koran,Al Lah’s “perfect” book.
muslims know very well that koran 17.1 is nonsense and that muhammed’s flying horse is laughably ludicrous.A Unicorn is more realistic than muhammed’s fantasy creature.
islam and the koran ridicule muhammed.
He was also a cross-dresser sahih bukhari 2442,insisting on wearing Aisha’s dress whilst channeling his Arab god Al Lah{“the BEST of deceivers” k3:54}
Al Lah also doesn’t seem to think Arabs are particulary gifted or bright:
“What! A FOREIGN TONGUE and an Arab?”k41:44
No Muzzies Here says
This cannot be done without the full and willing cooperation of social media. Facebook and all the others are more than happy to assist totalitarian dictatorships as they monitor citizens and make them pay the penalty for having non-approved thoughts.
ninetyninepct says
It is impossible to insult Islam. Truth is not an insult.
Justin Trudeau has started to monitor the internet for opposition to Liberals and Islam, using a bribe of $600,000,000 to control the Canadian media. Facebook, Twitter and Google have been approached.
OLD GUY says
Yes this is all about control of the masses by the muslims and it fits right in with the far left liberals agenda. The Saudi’s money reaches far and wide around the world to help spread the Islam ideology and their plan to rule the world. Mohammad was the original Hitler, Adolf followed the Islam plan for killing the Jewish people and anyone else it deemed a danger to his plan. He began by burning books and destroying opposition media and replacing it with state run media that only praised his ideology. I keep hope that this is not here we go again, but it sure looks that way. Their are huge numbers of good honest Muslims out there that do not agree with the radical leaders of Islam but they are not standing up against what is being done in the name of their religion. this is the same failure of the average and good citizens of Germany who let Hitler and his thugs drag them into world war II. History has a way of repeating itself.
Truth says
You mean like saying Mohammad was an evil, child molesting, slave running piece of trash?
Tara Macarthur says
So does a biography count?
http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2018/09/tara-is-free.html