The assertion that “terrorism has no religion” only serves to obscure the fact that the Sri Lanka mass murderers were acting in the name of Islam and in accord with its teachings. To ignore or deny that fact is to postpone, yet again, the work of developing a realistic response to jihad terror.
“No community should be held responsible for the actions of extremists.”
Of course. No innocent people should ever be held responsible for actions they had nothing to do with. All too often, however, the claim is made that honest analysis of the ideological and doctrinal roots of jihad violence in Islamic texts and teachings is tantamount to scapegoating the entire Muslim community and holding it responsible for the actions of a few. This is actually not the case, any more than an honest analysis of the Nazi ideology as the cause for the violence of the Brownshirts and the SS was holding all Germans responsible for the actions of a few. But the OIC wants to sow this confusion, and has been quite successful in doing so, in pursuit of its ultimate goal of silencing all criticism of Islam, in accord with Sharia blasphemy provisions.
“OIC warns of hate speech against Muslims in Sri Lanka,” Yeni Safak, July 4, 2019:
The Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) has warned of an increase in anti-Muslim incidents in Sri Lanka.
“OIC has been monitoring closely the situation of Muslims in Sri Lanka,” the group of 57 member-states said in a statement released late on Wednesday.
The Jeddah-based group voiced its concerns over the “rise in incidents of intimidation, anti-Muslim rhetoric and hate speech promulgated by certain groups in the country.”
It also renewed its call on the Sri Lanka authorities “to counter firmly the spread of rhetoric of hatred and intolerance, while ensuring the security and safety of the Muslim community in that country,”
The OIC also reiterated its “firm stance against terrorism and extremism in all its forms and manifestations,” stressing that “terrorism has no religion and that no community should be held responsible for the actions of extremists.”…
David Grisez says
If terrorism has no religion than why in the world is it that over 90 percent of the terrorism acts in this world are committed in the name of Islam. So the Organization of Islamic Cooperation is lying to confuse the issue of the true source of a lot of terrorism in this world, which is Islam.
mortimer says
The OIC is using taqiyya.
– Taqiyya is lying to strengthen Islam.
– “Taqiyya permeates almost all the activities and dealings of Muslims with non-Muslim societies…” – former sheikh Sam Solomon
Robert_k says
The OIC is right “Terrorism has no religion” if you say that Islam is not a religion but a death cult.
mortimer says
The Koran and hadiths do not call Islam a ‘religion’, but a ‘DEEN’ (a system of governance). Islam is an empire, similar to the Roman Empire. Islam is a total lifestyle and system of governance.
Religion and politics are married inseparably in the Islamic system of governance (DEEN).
Robert_k says
So that proves the point that the OIC is right.
Lydia Church says
Their denial is endless and shameful…
always “don’t you dare accuse the real criminals!”
while the real victims suffer without protection.
Like the Tommy Robinson case.
A portend of things to come.
And on Monday July 8, the antichrist pope is celebrating a mass for ‘refugees and migrants’!
But alas… nothing for their victims! Lampedusa…. Lampedusa…. his lament for Lampedusa….. it was a sign.
Keys says
We should believe that when terrorists yell “Allahu Akbar” there is absolutely no connection to to Islam.
They’re damned liars, and they know it !
mortimer says
When they yell “Allahu Akbar”, they are telling the truth. Duck and run for cover.
Giovanni says
Just repeat after me: Al-JESUS, AL-MESSIAH hu ackbar
Battle says
Christian’s and Catholic Christians were victims of the Sri Lanka attacks. Did not take long for the OIC to claim Muslims are the victims.
gravenimage says
This is what Muslims *always* do–claim false victimhood.
mortimer says
Islamic theology impacts culture through its victimology language:
Tamaskan tatamakan = “Show a victim’s face, and you will take over”.
The theological roots of this saying are complex and the cultural habit clear and simple.
Act the victim, and then after a while, you’ll take over the other person. So we are interacting. I pretend that I’m in a bad situation and I’m suffering. You have pity on me and when the money comes, I destroy you.
JM says
Good post – and a timely warning for us.
Keys says
Every evil tactic ever devised by man is utilized by Islam, and blessed by “Allah”, the best of deceivers, if it is against kafirs, or those considered to be muslim blasphemers.
Try to imagine something evil to gain advantage that the muslims do not already employ in their jihad. Let me know, if you come up with something, and seek spiritual assistance.
Thanks, mortimer. Good to know the term “tamaskan tatamakan”.
gravenimage says
True, Mortimer.
Battle says
One of the terrorists was shown on video going in a mosque and praying in the mosque before he attaced.
gravenimage says
Yep.
Brian hoff says
Than fact that have bearing on the case. How many christian terrorist in Northern Ireland went to church before carrying out they act or terrorism which you hater ingore.
Brian hoff says
I mean no bearing. It like saying the mafic godfather goes to church.
mortimer says
No Brian … your attempted MORAL EQUIVALENCY doesn’t work, because Christianity has no teaching of warfare against disbelievers or of HATRED directed against disbelievers.
Islam doesn’t contain the Golden Rule. All Muslims are required to direct HATRED and HOSTILITY against the dirty disbelievers ‘for the sake of Allah’.
gravenimage says
Is “Brian hoff”–really, “DefenderofIslam”–pretending that his vicious creed does not teach violent Jihad? Nice try…
JM says
They weren’t “Christian terrorists” as such, even though the Northern Irish dispute cuts across communities roughly divided into Roman Catholics and Protestants. The problem was (and remains) about territorial claims for a united Ireland, the result of a very muddled legacy from history. It is neither religious nor expansionist.
Trish says
Thank you Mortimer for pointing out those words of wisdom.
And JM, for clarifying some Historical facts which many no longer have a clue about.
Battle says
attacked
Terry Gain says
Given the indisputable fact that Islam is not a religion, but is in fact a totalitarian political ideology of conquest. I completely agree that “terrorism has no religion”.
Criticizing Muslims is like shooting fish in a barrel.
Wellington says
Indisputable fact, Terry? Well, don’t take it up with me but with Robert Spencer who has a multitude of times indicated that Islam is a religion.
When are you going to realize that a religion can be awful, putrid, totalitarian, a POS? Wait, I think I know. “Never” comes to mind.
Terry Gain says
Robert has no choice. You do.
Wellington says
Yes he does.
gravenimage says
Terry, you can disagree with Robert Spencer if you wish, but claiming that this brave man is lying about Islam is just grotesque calumny.
Why would he risk his life telling the truth about Islam, then say it is a religion is he thought this was untrue?
Pretending that he has to (as you see it) lie about Islam is *quite* mistaken.
Terry Gain says
When are you going to realize that so long as Islam has the protected status of a religion, it will never be confronted, let alone defeated?
Wellington says
Nazism, Marxism, anarchism, hell, even NAMBLA have protected status as a belief system, but what they don’t have is 1) the right for their followers to act upon many of their beliefs; and 2) being looked upon by the vast majority as a positive.
Islam’s religious status is effectively a technicality. What is imperative is whether it is seen as good or bad. If the latter, most everything else will fall into place to preserve freedom and eventually consign Islam to the trash heap of history.
Finally, at the very least, you should be cautious, very, in stating as you did that it is indisputable Islam is not a religion. This is just silly and without foundation. Many, for instance myself, RS and gravenimage fully acknowledge that Islam is a religion. Scores more do as well, including loads that think of it as evil. The earth revolving around the sun is an indisputable fact. Islam not being a religion is not an indisputable fact. And why can’t a religion also be a totalitarian ideology? Bertrand Russell asserted such as did Winston Churchill. You have put forth your opinion about Islam as an indisputable fact and this is a very elementary error.
Terry Gain says
Nazism, Marxism, anarchism, hell, even NAMBLA have protected status as a belief system.
…….
Silly. Just silly. Beyond reason. You will never get why Islam is protected.
gravenimage says
Terry, Wellington is quite right about this being protected speech under the Constitution–adherence to ideologies that are not religions is also protected speech, so long as it does not incite violence.
I don’t actually believe that gutting the Constitution would make us safer–really, just the opposite.
Then, Islam is–as I have noted many times before–a religion by any definition. The belief that every faith is good is quite mistaken. What about the worship of Ba’al and the human-sacrificing Aztec creed? These were clearly religions, and clearly–like Islam–evil.
Moreover, your implication that all we need to do to defend against Islam is to fly in the face of reason and have someone–what body, exactly?–declare Islam a non-religion will allow us to easily defeat Jihadists really makes no sense. No one has made such a declaration, and every successful defense against Islam was, in fact, made by brave people who recognized Islam as an evil religion.
Would you rather that Infidels had failed to defend against Islam at Poitiers, at Lepanto, and at the Gates of Vienna because they didn’t make this silly claim?
Wellington says
“You will never get why Islam is protected.”
Must be wrapped up with my inability to understand the word, “indisputable.”
eduardo odraude says
Terry’s premise seems to be that the government could start defining in very specific ways what is and is not a religion, and that then the government could declare Islam not a religion. Then, in Terry’s view if I understand it, the government would be free to outlaw Islam. But the thing is, the government’s legal power to decide what is and is not religion is extremely limited. The First Amendment basically disqualifies the government from holding almost any kind of authority on religious questions. The government can stop certain kinds of actions and punish those who commit them and can do so regardless of whether the actions are deemed “religious” by anyone or not. But the government cannot, except in emergency situations, if at all, outlaw ideas or ideologies (whether the ideologies are religious or not). Even though the Qur’an says things like “kill them wherever you find them,” First Amendment jurisprudence will not outlaw the Qur’an. The law will only interfere with someone who can be shown to take Qur’anic jihad commands literally to the point of making specific plans to act on such commands. I recall once that some undercover cops even set up a fake detonation button the would-be jihadi could press. The undercover cops wanted that because they wanted to be able to show a court that the suspect would actually have gone through with murder. The jihadi was convicted not for reading a Qur’an but because he decided to commit illegal acts he interpreted the Qur’an as praising. It doesn’t matter that you and I think his interpretation was the most plausible interpretation of the Qur’an. Others interpret it differently or claim to do so, and US courts are not going to wade into theological hermeneutics on Islam. Judges will either ignore the theology entirely (and they probably should ignore it), or at most will make a few general comments absolving Islam (as they should not do) and focusing on the illegal actions of the individual perpetrator. Even if tomorrow as though by magic the Supreme Court declared that Islam is not a religion, and then by further magic the overwhelming majority of the population and the elites agreed, still, the First Amendment would protect the Qur’an even as a non-religious ideology. Mosques would lose religious tax exemptions. But Islam would not be outlawed, I think, except in the case of extreme national emergencies related to jihad, existential threats to the nation, for example a jihad attack three times as deadly, say, as 9/11.
eduardo odraude says
Oops. Did not mean to italicize all that.
Anjuli Pandavar says
Terry, “so long as Islam has the protected status of a religion, it will never be confronted.”
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Islam has been confronted *right from the word go*, by everyone unfortunate enough to have been in its path. They might not have been effective in defending themselves, and might have ended up raped and slaughtered anyway. *Refusal to submit to Islam*, whatever form that might take, is confronting Islam. Millions have died doing exactly that. Christ almighty! What a horrible thing to say.
I realise that you are referring to the contemporary US situation, but are you suggesting that this very blog is not confronting to Islam? Are you suggesting that ACT for America is not confronting Islam? Are you suggesting that Ex-Muslims of North America is not confronting Islam? I can run off a long list of individuals, groups and media in America who are risking life and limb, and livelihood, confronting Islam, and you will dismiss them all.
As for the legal game you want to play, I think that Eduardo has answered you well. Besides, your premise is just as false as its variant, “Islam is not a religion; it is an ideology.” Of course Islam is an ideology, but that point not strengthened by denying that Islam is a religion. On the contrary, it is weakened, because it denies any link between religion and ideology.
somehistory says
Wellington, et al,
Arguing with tg is as productive as it would be arguing with a brick wall, a plate of spaghetti,
a random lizard enjoying the warm sun.
TG convinced him/herself that because islam is evil, and the adherents engage in evil acts, that islam is not a “form of worship.” This is because tg doesn’t want to see it as a “form of worship.” TG sees this as a way to use the law to destroy it, and will not be disabused of this line of thinking.
“indisputable fact”? That is clearly not correct…as shown by all of the people disputing it. Even if islam was not a “form of worship”…a “religion”…billions of people view it that way, so TG is wrong. Again.
tgusa says
“The Jeddah-based group voiced its concerns over the “rise in incidents of intimidation, anti-Muslim rhetoric and hate speech promulgated by certain groups in the country.”
This is what happens when adherents set out to blow people up because they are not one of them. Just as their god, their religious tenets, have commanded them to do.
“to counter firmly the spread of rhetoric of hatred and intolerance, while ensuring the security and safety of the Muslim community in that country,”
Yes, it appears that tolerance and the safety of the adherents is what is needed. Everyone must accept that adherents will continue to blow people up because they are not one of them. Anything else would be, intolerant. If adherents keeps doing this sort of stuff over and over again it is a given that they will eventually wear out their welcome.
Paul J says
Sri Lanka needs to follow the example of Myanmar and drive all them out, into the sea preferably but Pakistan will do in the interim.
gravenimage says
Org. of Islamic Cooperation says “terrorism has no religion,” warns against “hate speech” against Sri Lanka Muslims
………………………….
Just sickening. Is saying that Muslims slaughtering Christians in Sri Lanka is a bad thing “hate speech”.
infidel says
VOW HOW RICH!! Not a single word on the bombings and the mass murder of innocents by Muslims!!! VOW!!!
gravenimage says
So true, Infidel.
mortimer says
Koran 8.60 “TURHIBUNNA” (terrorize them).
Mohammed said, “I was made victorious through TERROR.” – Bukhari 4.52.220
Koran 3.151 We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve, because they set up with Allah that for which He has sent down no authority, and their abode is the fire, and evil is the abode of the unjust.
Tony Naim says
Robert Spencer is right. The Koran preaches violence. It is the source of every Jihadi violent event, past , present and future.
Political Islam teaches its adherents to live by the sword, and to discriminate.
No western government should accept to live under its norms. Political Islam must be outlawed in the west.
tim gallagher says
It seems that almost all terrorist attacks these days are committed by Muslims. And the calls for terrorism, the calls to create terror in the minds of non-Muslims are right there in the Koran, so it is always the extraordinary, shameless nature of the lies these Muslim groups tell that really registers with me. It is almost unbelievable. I guess they think there are still plenty of non-Muslims who will buy these lies (like “terrorism has no religion”) and, unfortunately, there are. I get that they are trying the old lie about how it’s just a tiny minority of extremist Muslims who carry out terrorist attacks, but what a load of rubbish that argument is. When almost all terrorist attacks in the world are carried out by Muslims, there’s an obvious problem with Islam. In the report, it says that there have been more anti- Muslim incidents in Sri Lanka. Good. What would you expect after the bombings recently of Christian churches? There should be retribution. Muslims always seem to think that they can commit atrocities and, bizarrely, not have to face any retribution. It’s an unbelievable attitude. Maybe Sri Lankans will react like the Burmese and rise up and kick Muslims out of Sri Lanka. If they did, it would be well deserved.
tgusa says
“The Jeddah-based group voiced its concerns over the “rise in incidents of intimidation, anti-Muslim rhetoric and hate speech promulgated by certain groups in the country.”
If they think that is concerning I would say to them, just wait until certain groups (the victimized) begin to get fed up and really angry.
underbed cat says
Hopefully soon the gig will be up for the voting block of the OIC, of the U,N, ,we have read the book that is the rightly guided published manual for tolerance and justice….. that is taught in every mosque and is protected by slander laws of sharia, as a contrast to our speech that is protected by the Constitution. I understand that terror ie jihad, harsh penalties and deception could get a bad reputation… for any religion especially as it could hardly get a security clearance. .. explaining that away to the uninformed won’t stay uninformed for long. The truth matters and is not hate speech, and should is not restricted speech. Slander laws of sharia allow protecting a nearly warfare doctrine by using hate speech law that criminalize facts or words ..even if it is quoted out of the Quran a foreign law. Truth will light the path for a redefinition of religion for the western world. In my opinion it is a incompatible with tolerance and peaceful as exposure results in fibs and revenge of bad behavior to disrupt peace to replace Constitutional law with chaos.
Angemon says
Last time I checked, there were no mass-murdering attacks on the muslim community.
In his mind, I suspect, jihad is not the same as terrorism…
Angemon says
“no mass-murdering attacks on the muslim community” that were not done by other muslims, that is…
underbed cat says
What is the big misunderstanding of Islam. Killing without right. Terrorism under sharia law is not flying planes into buildings such as 9/11, sharia law confirms they are innocent of all terrorism if they are fighting non- believers. Under sharia law terrorists are all nonbelievers who fight back or do not convert.They do not see slaying infidels or nonbelievers as a crime. since they find it a duty. They can surge into other lands and do so..Their targets are Christians, Jews or non believers.. So the U.S. having allies of any Islamic sharia law or sharia base government, who think they are playing the role of sending the military as an allie who may may have been invaded by other sharia believers are killing without right a most heinous crime in Islam. Information warfare, the deception and push back as racist works for Islam.
Saudi Arabia depending on our military for fighting theirs war is deadly for the U.S, and they can claim they are joining us in the fight against terror, will use the U.S only in a temporary situation and then we will unknowingly find our aid as a crime of killing without right, that will eventually be the cause of our massive invasion, as the question of who may be funding that which we currently call migrants who actually mingled with soldiers for Islam. Europe has been flooded with sharia devout communities a preparation move so they have an insurance policy of ready fighters for Islam. Our interests should start at home to remove that sharia insurance policy that they know they are preparing to fight. Is there any wonder why the silencing of our speech even if true was labeled as hate speech, the other heinous offense. This information has been ignored or unknown for far too long, diplomatically as not possible. and is vehemently piously denied..it just depends on the audience and it is very cleverly disguised. in my opinion.
Ade Fegan says
The lies are not the problem
It’s the idiots who believe them
Anjuli Pandavar says
The OIC renewed its call on the Sri Lanka authorities “to counter firmly the spread of rhetoric of hatred and intolerance, while ensuring the security and safety of the Muslim community in that country,”
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Sorry, OIC. The Sri Lanka authorities have slightly different priorities at the moment, as any right-minded person can imagine.
Bikinis not Burkas says
Where in the Bible or the Torah is a verse similar to Quran 8:12
Stanton Lore says
It is true terrorism has no religion. There are plenty of terrorists who kill for other reasons. But, there is a religion that has terrorism. That is Islam.
somehistory says
This is rich. The oic…made up of 57 moslim countries… (The 57 states visited by “o.”)
“warning” the rest of the world not to say **bad** things against the moslims of Sri Lanka.
The oic…a terror org if there ever was one. However, in the minds of moslims everywhere, “terrorism” is waged and carried out by non-moslims…never by moslims
moslims don’t accept that what they do…jihad in its many forms…is terrorism. One-on-one murder, mass murder, rape of children and young women, lying to further islam, tricks and subterfuge, .forming groups specifically for terror ., are all seen as “war” for their fake god…to do his will.
moslims see any actions taken to stop them from world domination…by one person, many people or a nation…as terrorism. Just speaking against the violent murders and rapes committed by moslims, to moslims is terrorism. Telling the Truth about islam, speaking about it, writing about it, listening to others tell the truth about it…to moslims is terrorism and “hatred of religion”…because they see islam as the ***only*** religion.
Walter Sieruk says
There are different kinds of terrorism as Communist Terrorism and anarchistic terrorism, nevertheless there is the most current type of terrorism which has a long history of violence and killing.
This is Islamic terrorism engaged in by Muslim terrorists, a case example of that of those vicious Muslim terrorists mass murderers in Sir Lanka.
For those murderous jihadists in their horrible Easter Sunday jihad bombings in Sri Lanka were not acting 2:191. out in a hijacked form of Islam but actual Quran based non-watered down hard core . As the Quran teaches in 9:111, “The believers fight in Allah’s Cause, they slay and are slain, they kill and are killed.” Likewise, this “holy book” of Islam also instructs in 47:4 “ Whenever you encounter the disbeliever strike off their heads until you make a great slaughter among them…”
Let’s face it, using bombs as those as the Sir Lanka jihadists did can, for sure, make a greater “slaughter among them” than a sword can. There are the other verses the give instruction for violence and killing for the cause of Islam, as 2:191. 5:33. 8:39.9:5, 38-39.
IanB says
Top taqiyya!
Walter Sieruk says
In reality there is one type of terrorism that does have a religion Which is the terrorism of Islam’s jihad.
Those Easter Sunday jihadists with their murderous bombing attacks against all those Catholics in Sri Lanka did have a very harsh reality check after they died in their jihad suicide/homicide bombings. For instead of finding themselves in a paradise, with or without virgins, they found themselves, to their shock and horror, trapped and suffering in the fires of hell, Luke 16:1-31. As the Bible teaches murderer “will not inherit the kingdom of God.” Galatians 5:21. The Bible also gives a list of those who are fated to suffer terribly forever in the Lake of fire and murderers are on that list, Revelations 21:8.
Furthermore, all those heinous jihad suicide/homicide attacker are both murderous and demonic. It now should be made known that this jihad murderous bombing is the outcome of the Islamic doctrine from the Qu‘’ran [the Koran] of a sexual paradise with many virgins, houris , in it for the male Muslim /jihadist who dies fighting in the jihad for the cause of Islam is found in the “holy book” of Islam, the Koran, in Sura 44:54. 55: 56. 78:31.
Also there is the Koranic instruction of Sura 9:111 which teaches “The believers fight in Allah’s Cause, they slay and are slain, they kill and are killed.” Getting back to the origin doctrine of Islam from the Koran of a sex –filled paradise with many houris for the use only by the male jihadist who dies fight for the advancement of Islam. All this started when the founder and prophet of Islam, Muhammad manufactured Islam he put , had stolen, some of sex doctrine of Zoroastrian mythology and a yet smaller bit of Hindu mythological sex teachings along with as well as mixture pagan Arabian folklore and myth plus a heavy dose of Judaism and Christianity . Also some of it apostate “Christianity” For the prophet of Islam, Muhammad, couldn’t discern the difference between genuine Bible based Christianity and bogus “Christianity.” Those words and teaching Muhammad gathered from many sources, including the virgins /sex place mythology. , and taught as “Divine Truth” were written down on many things then later compiled and then went into the composition of the Koran. So the hoax of the Koran is actually a mixture and fusion Judaism Christianity and mythology of other religions and now the Muslim clerics with the Koranic brainwashing of young Muslims who are thoroughly mind programmed into believing this Islamic/Koranic virgins myth. This deception of false doctrine /myth into the thoughts of some people was predicted in the Bible along with the false teachers who engage in the indoctrination of such a myth /doctrine into the minds and hearts other people . For it is written “For the time will come when they will not stand wholesome teaching, but will follow their own fancy and gather a crown of teachers to tickle their ears. They will stop their ears to the truth and turn to mythology.” Second Timothy 4:3,4. [N.E.B.]
Giacomo Latta says
The OIC states that ” no community should be held responsible for the actions of extremists”. And when was the last time that the OIC admitted that its community contained extremists?
eduardo odraude says
If jihadis are “extremists”, then Muhammad, the prime exemplar for Muslims, was an extremist, since the primary Islamic source texts portray him as a quite violent jihadist. And therefore, Muslims, while they should not be harassed or have their rights violated, should in polite and kind ways be persistently asked to what they think of various parts of the core texts of Islam (Qur’an, Hadith, Sira, Tafsir). Ideally we should have citation numbers on hand to allow those who are ignorant of Islamic sources to verify we are not making anything up. Not a few Muslims have abandoned Islam after being repeatedly shown their own primary sources in detail, since those sources reveal an expansionist totalitarian terrorist program that is to continue till the end of time. Many Muslims are ignorant of their own sources.
eduardo odraude says
quotingislam.blogspot.com contains many examples of canonical hadiths and passages from the earliest Muslim biography of Muhammad revealing Islam’s totalitarian or authoritarian core.