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UK: Telegraph asks if champagne celebrations should be ended in order to accommodate Muslims

Jul 17, 2019 1:00 pm By Robert Spencer

Here again we see that “multiculturalism” for the British media elite doesn’t mean “mutual tolerance and respect,” but “submission and accommodation to Islamic mores.” The principle is always and everywhere the same: in Muslim countries, one should conform one’s behavior to Islamic sensibilities. And in non-Muslim countries, one should conform one’s behavior to Islamic sensibilities. But notice that it is not the Muslim cricketers or any other Muslims who are calling for an end to champagne celebrations; it is the non-Muslim British “conservative” paper the Telegraph, representing the wholesale cultural collapse and capitulation of the British intelligentsia.

Two of England's Cricket champions were forced to walk away from the champagne celebrations because they are Muslim and therefore choose not to drink. But in a multicultural Britain should this be happening? And are champagne celebrations outdated in multicultural Britain? pic.twitter.com/aD1anCZsSI

— The Telegraph (@Telegraph) July 16, 2019

 

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  1. Liz says

    Jul 17, 2019 at 1:11 pm

    Isn’t part of being multicultural enjoying the differences? If you must accommodate and change to become the same then you are eliminating the multiculturalism you said you were trying to create.

    Where is the logic?

    • Sylvia says

      Jul 17, 2019 at 1:23 pm

      Champagne is just a beginning. Eventually all Liquor & Wine will be banned permanently.
      As will many, many other things. Gambling and any types of games of chance. All music. All dogs. All Arts. Books definitely Fiction. The right of women to work, probably women driving as well. Schools will become gender segregated.

      • CRUSADER says

        Jul 17, 2019 at 1:44 pm

        The Muzzies could’ve decently abstained from such
        while standing by, smiling. Any other religious believer
        athlete would’ve done so…

        Not the Muzzie upstarts, who are just beginning their
        CULTURAL JIHAD!

        What about Courteous Gentlemanly FairPlay?

        (Crickets?)

        Perhaps the Mongol sport of polo (with a kufir’s head as the ball)
        or the Afghan sport of Buzkashi (with a kufir’s carcass in the ring)
        could be adopted instead of these silly antiquated British games?

        • jarmanray says

          Jul 18, 2019 at 1:08 am

          You are totally correct about just not participating in the act of drinking alcohol. Being a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Mormon) and working for the State Department, has never created a conflict. When attending functions where alcohol is served, my wife and I simply drink a soft drink or a cup of herbal tea if it is a morning event. I see no reason why Muslims can’t conduct their daily life around others who drink alcohol. I also work with many members of the Jewish faith and I have never witnessed one becoming upset with others eating pork, they simply place chicken, lamb or some other meat that does not conflict with their religious codes and obligations.

        • Westman says

          Jul 18, 2019 at 1:15 am

          According to the moderator the BEHEADED calf takes the place of former defeated enemy carcases in the game of buzkashi. Now where would the believers get the notion to do something like that?

        • carpediadem says

          Jul 19, 2019 at 12:12 am

          I have no objection to the Muslims walking away from the group, they are not compelled to bathe in alcohol. It is not they, but this idiot paper suggesting champagne be banned.

          As for Jews and pork, Judaism has NO law compelling nonJews to abstain from eating what they wish. the commandment is for Jews only to abstain from pork.It is simple to say no thank you!

          Islam on the other hand compels ALL to live under Sharia and therefore many Muslims throw a fit if others eat products Muslims are not supposed to.

      • Ted Tyler says

        Jul 18, 2019 at 5:50 am

        I like the idea of choice. Each player could choose to have either alcoholic or non-alcoholic bubbly.

      • J D S says

        Jul 18, 2019 at 10:38 am

        I m Not sure anymore about Britton but I thought Freedom of Choice fits with countries who have freedom of religion and many other freedoms …..NOTE; I said FREEDOM OF… not FREEDOM FROM….but WAIT! Don’t FREEDOM FROM RELIGION fit when it comes to islam?? If one is FORCED into a religion then here is no Freedom whatsoever…Isn’t FREEDOM to worship as one choses one of the main reasons that a bunch of people LEFT their homeland and traveled across the ocean to establish a FREE COUNTRY?

    • James Lincoln says

      Jul 17, 2019 at 3:29 pm

      Liz says,

      “If you must accommodate and change to become the same then you are eliminating the multiculturalism you said you were trying to create.”

      The irony is that, regarding Islam, initial multiculturalism in a Western country eventually turns into uniculturalism – otherwise known as an Islamic Republic.

      That is the logic of the Muslim invaders.

      • Liz says

        Jul 17, 2019 at 4:03 pm

        Indeed!
        But where is the logic for the British reporters at the Telegraph who are promoting multiculturalism?

        • James Lincoln says

          Jul 17, 2019 at 4:50 pm

          Liz,

          At best, British reporters at the Telegraph who are promoting multiculturalism are confusing multiculturalism with multiethnicity.

          Non-Muslim multiethnic groups that assimilate into the larger culture of the host nation are desirable, i.e., melting pot. When this happens, the ethnic groups may preserve some of their culture (cuisine, art, dance, etc.) but maintain total respect the laws and culture of the host nation. They learn the language of the host nation, become productive citizens, and assimilate. And their religion does not conflict with the laws of the host nation.

          As we know, Muslims do not do this because Islam does not allow this.

          At worst, the British reporters at the Telegraph are suggesting that the British natives submit to Islam as to not “offend”.

        • carpediadem says

          Jul 19, 2019 at 12:14 am

          @James Lincoln

          Nice point, well put, James.

    • revereridesagain says

      Jul 17, 2019 at 4:12 pm

      They choose to walk away from champagne celebrations. We choose to walk away from the brutal “halal” slaughter of conscious animals.

      • CRUSADER says

        Jul 17, 2019 at 6:47 pm

        Have you noted that Muslims on their required Hajj into Mecca
        — to circle the Kaaba and do all sorts of rituals — are duty-bound
        to slit the throat of a sacrificial animal, letting the blood flow out,
        and thereby every of these devout Muslims will have practiced this
        act of violence? Is that in preparation for something? Is that meant
        to desensitize them to a bit of direct violence, perpetrated directly by
        them, not some priests doing the act for them?

        No “scape goat” in Islam….

      • DP111 says

        Jul 18, 2019 at 5:26 am

        Soon we will be required to bow down to Mecca five times a day.

        Thanks DT. Idiots.

  2. Phil Copson says

    Jul 17, 2019 at 1:16 pm

    They weren’t remotely “forced to walk away” of course – they chose to do it because they knew their “look-at-me” grand-standing wouldn’t be condemned for the act of self-important intolerance that it is.

    • Clarino says

      Jul 17, 2019 at 2:40 pm

      Hesr, hear !!!!!

      • Clarino says

        Jul 17, 2019 at 2:42 pm

        Sorry – typo !

        Hear, hear !!!!!

        • CRUSADER says

          Jul 17, 2019 at 3:24 pm

          Good observation on their account, Phil Copson.

          Harr! Harr!

          Thanks for the clarification, Clarino.

          Ever get the chance to view movies produced by CounterJihad’ers
          at Clarion Project?

          http://www.clarionproject.org

  3. will rodgers says

    Jul 17, 2019 at 1:24 pm

    Muhammadans and their theocratic CULT have never and will never accept another culture. They are Barbaric Tribal pagans who will slaughter anyone who steps out of the fold. They are infiltrating the world with the same intention as the famous Star Trek cult the BORG. They too believe it is “futile to resist” they will use every type of deceit and coercion to annihilate Western Culture while at the same time relying on the benefits of Western know how and technology. I marvel at the Western fools who visit Qatar or Abu Dhabi and believe all of the modern buildings and infrastructure were built by muhammadan camel drivers. No muslim ever built or invented anything, They are all primitive tribesmen who only know how to wield a scimitar and and AK-47 built an supplied by the Russians.

    • CRUSADER says

      Jul 17, 2019 at 1:29 pm

      Fire off (Soviet style) AK-47s
      or (UAE made) Caracal pistols
      or the dastardly Mannlicher rifles
      during such “celebrations” instead!

  4. CRUSADER says

    Jul 17, 2019 at 1:25 pm

    Templars came from the Champagne district!

    Quiche Lorraine and Champagne is the perfect pairing
    for many Christian Counter-Jihad-ers to dine on.

  5. krishna says

    Jul 17, 2019 at 1:33 pm

    no one forced those muslim players to celebrate world cup by splashing champagne why is PC telegraph creating such unnecessary news

    • CRUSADER says

      Jul 17, 2019 at 3:25 pm

      ‘Tis the zeitgeist of our times….

      Soon to become a new deal once the devastation really starts happening!

  6. Jedothek says

    Jul 17, 2019 at 1:59 pm

    I urge even non-drinkers to defend our right to consume alcohol. If we lose this right, other concessions to Islam will follow.

    • CRUSADER says

      Jul 17, 2019 at 3:26 pm

      I’ll drink to that!

      Cheers, everyone!

    • CRUSADER says

      Jul 17, 2019 at 3:27 pm

      Of course, Jedothek, by “concessions”
      I would presume you do not mean they would obtain
      bar and pub concessions, permits, licences?

  7. Jay says

    Jul 17, 2019 at 2:08 pm

    Glad the winning team chose to celebrate in a traditional way!! The Muslim players walked away peacefully. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and religion! This however, is not the norm.
    The problems with Muslim immigration is the lack of assimilation ! England’s unfettered invasion of Muslims has changed English society forever!
    Immigration only works if it’s legal and if immigrants acclimate to their new country!
    Or DO NOT immigrate!
    God save the queen!

  8. Jayell says

    Jul 17, 2019 at 2:24 pm

    If Hitler had invaded in 1942, the people of the UK would have been forced to cease or suspend anything that did not please their new Nazi masters. Fast-forward 67 years and here we are being told that we must apparently appease our new proto-Nazi masters. Well, I’m going to cancel my subscription to the Telegraph with a suggestion as to where they can insert their opinions in future.

    • CRUSADER says

      Jul 17, 2019 at 3:28 pm

      Has it only been three score and seven, Jayell?

      • Jayell says

        Jul 18, 2019 at 3:14 am

        Hang on….(counting on my fingers) 42 to 52 = 10 years, plus to 62, 72, 82, 92, 02, 12 + 9 years to 2019….Your’re right, that’s 77 years, not 67. But that’s only 10 years more for a country that once led the world to go right down the pan. Did Rome manage to last any longer after the barbarian invasions?

  9. Gary Fouse says

    Jul 17, 2019 at 2:33 pm

    I guess it’s time for the Brits to just go and tend their gardens.

  10. Alarmed Pig Farmer says

    Jul 17, 2019 at 2:34 pm

    A follow-on question for the Telegraph to ask: should drivers in England accept stopping in their paths upon start of a salat, the five appointed Islam prayer times each day? Serious question, very serious. Moslems like to pray in the street, as we’ve seen in NYC and elsewhere here in the States.

    • CRUSADER says

      Jul 17, 2019 at 2:37 pm

      Drive on!

      Mix the chop salat!

      — and FREE Tommy Robinson!

  11. Rarely says

    Jul 17, 2019 at 5:14 pm

    But when they’re flying I bet they ask for the Kosher meal.

  12. Ole Pederson says

    Jul 17, 2019 at 5:21 pm

    So ridiculous as there is – well not Champagne but – sparkling wine in versions without alcohol.

  13. Angemon says

    Jul 17, 2019 at 5:40 pm

    And are champagne celebrations outdated in multicultural Britain?

    Coming up next:

    Have dogs outlived their utility in multicultural Britain?
    Should churches be repaired in multicultural Britain?
    Is the marriage age too high in multicultural Britain?
    Should women be treated as fully-fledged human beings in multicultural Britain?
    Do we really need secularism in multicultural Britain?

    • CRUSADER says

      Jul 17, 2019 at 11:29 pm

      Got the popcorn ready !

    • Liz says

      Jul 17, 2019 at 11:36 pm

      Excellent questions to get more people thinking critically. Nicely done!

  14. Salome says

    Jul 17, 2019 at 6:21 pm

    Spraying champagne is childish and wasteful and should never have been started in the first place. Non-alcoholic drinks should always be served where alcoholic drinks are being served. It’s just good manners. And this has nothing to do with Muslims.

    • CRUSADER says

      Jul 17, 2019 at 6:51 pm

      Little else gives the effervescent bubble shot as Champagne.

      The ritual is like an offering of first fruits. It’s a time honored tradition.

      Boats-people at yacht harbors and shipyards will do this ritual, as a christening.

      There is joy in it.

      If folks want to *drink* something else, that’s different, of course.

      Allow for some extra JOY in life!

    • smoris says

      Jul 18, 2019 at 8:35 am

      Says you. It would seem reasonable to byob if you know in advance that you are not allowed to drink the champagne. It is discourteous to make a big deal out of your quirks or preferences and walk away. That is rude, Sal. It’s always about you guys, though, isn’t it? Everyone needs to conform to your “needs”. Always. You never adjust. Time to grow up. If I am offered something at a party which I don’t care for, I discreetly avoid it so as not to cause hurt feelings or make others uncomfortable. I am adult enough to understand that it’s not all about me. I had a friend who was alcoholic. When alcoholic drinks were around he would have a cup of coffee. In our culture people who for whatever reason cannot or should not conform simply go on about their business. They don’t make an issue of it. No one should force or urge alcohol on anyone else but no one should be obnoxious and make an issue of it on the other side either. The best thing to do when children are behaving badly is not to give them the attention they are seeking. These poor “victims” are trying to get attention – maybe even sympathy – and this should not become a news story nor should it result in even the suggestion that the rest of society is “outdated” and ought to give up its traditions. If anyone is “outdated” it is the 7th Century barbarians who have been invited to destroy Britain. Congratulations. They are succeeding.

  15. tim gallagher says

    Jul 17, 2019 at 7:45 pm

    I doubt whether this idea of ditching champagne celebrations will get far, but I find the very idea revolting. We have our way of living life and such celebrations by winning football and cricket teams are part of our western civilisation. Who cares if these two Muslim cricketers can’t indulge in our western way of celebrating. There is no way we should jettison our western traditions for some PC rubbish. Such ideas are part of our abject surrender. We should believe strongly in our way western way of living life. Also, I just thought that there would always have been players who would not have drunk any of the champagne either because they may have been alcoholics who wouldn’t touch alcohol or because of religious beliefs. I can remember years ago, maybe in the early 1960’s, we had a very good cricketer here in Australia, named Brian Booth, good enough to have played for Australia, who was a very strict Christian( I can’t recall what church he was a member of) and wouldn’t play on Sundays. I’m sure he would have been a non-drinker and wouldn’t have indulged in the champagne if they had a winning celebration. He certainly wouldn’t have complained about his fellow team members indulging though.

    • CRUSADER says

      Jul 17, 2019 at 11:32 pm

      Brian Booth, known for many things, but most magnificently
      for his sportsmanship on the field, and for his Christianity
      in discussing ethics….

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Booth

      • tim gallagher says

        Jul 18, 2019 at 6:20 pm

        Yes, CRUSADER, I remembered Brian Booth for a couple of reasons. I went to a Teachers’ College next to Sydney University way back in the 1970’s, and who should be the man who taught us sport or Physical Education but Brian Booth. I remember that he was a very pleasant person, although I don’t have really clear memories of him. I can remember that he still looked just as fit as when he was playing top level sport. I’m pretty sure that he played in the Australian field hockey team (maybe went to an Olympic Games, I’m not sure) as well as being very good at cricket. On the radio last night, a presenter mentioned a religious member of the All Blacks rugby team who also wouldn’t play on Sundays in more recent times although I had no recollection of that person.

  16. Eric Jones says

    Jul 18, 2019 at 2:27 am

    I like champagne whether I am celebrating or not. More please.

    Eric

  17. andra says

    Jul 18, 2019 at 5:03 am

    For Musilims multiculturalism means submission under Sharia law.
    I bet nobody on this celebration wanted to force These guys to drink champagne. They definitely could have chosen water. So what is their problem? If they want to live under Sharia law and at the same time are well-minded people they must move to a Sharia country. Isn´t Pakistan well doing in Cricket?
    But if they want to force other cultures in multi-cultural Britain under their rules they are not well-minded but are working on destroying the British Britain and replacing it by a Muslim Britain.
    How long will it take until The Telegraph and other idiots understand what bu****it they are celebrating when demanding this kind of cultural suicide?

  18. AnneCrockett says

    Jul 18, 2019 at 7:30 am

    It is not the cricketers who are saying this, but the Daily Telegraph which- like every other journalistic outlet in the west- cannot let pass an opportunity to tell us all how very, very wicked we are for having our traditions.

    Moeen Ali, who is on the cricket teem: “We respect our teammates and their desire to do this, they respect our beliefs.

    “It’s really that simple.

    “The amazing thing about our team is that guys took time out very early on to talk to us about our religion and our culture.

    “They have made adjustments for us and we have for them.

    “And we live in harmony.”

    • Kerry Wade says

      Jul 18, 2019 at 7:50 am

      The British media like many of its readers are morally incontinent, lack a backbone and display wimpish whining. Not read a paper or watched TV for many years. The radio I own is collecting dust, people are drugged by their own stupidity. Garbage in garbage out.

  19. infidel says

    Jul 18, 2019 at 8:21 am

    These Muslims really get on my nerves. People here must note the increasing salafization and wahhabi appearance of many Muslim cricket players, umpires, and match officialdom and including those in the ICC office. They all seem to be in it together… cutting across national lines with their barbaric salafist beards. This is not a good development and yet another IN UR FACE of cricket jehaad. Just look at some of the Muslim players of Eng and RSA… U will get the idea… As for Jehaadi Pakistan and Bangladesh, they do namaaz on the pitch.

  20. jca reid. says

    Jul 18, 2019 at 8:26 am

    Many years ago I read articles on Muslims consuming alcohol & on a British TV documentary about the influx of wealthy Arabs into London, England. Apparently according these sources….. It is only in Muslim lands that alcohol consumption is band as, the Arab hosts out there entertaining Westerners on yachts stated, “It only applies if one is on land.” & this Sheikh offering champagne to a fellow Sheikh in London said, ” Mohammed will turn it into water once it touches your lips & mouth.”

  21. ntesdorf says

    Jul 18, 2019 at 1:14 pm

    You could quite easily fill some unlabelled champagne bottles with 7-up so that the Muslims could spray each other in perfect safely of Hellish retribution. Normal people could continue to enjoy the Champagne.

    • Liz says

      Jul 18, 2019 at 1:31 pm

      Or we could just continue to celebrate as normal without becoming submissive.

      Seriously if they don’t like it they can leave; same as if I were to participate in something from another culture in another country if I was not happy I could leave/not participate too.

      • CRUSADER says

        Jul 19, 2019 at 4:00 am

        But, would you, Liz, make such a tremendous deal about your leaving?

  22. Fred says

    Jul 18, 2019 at 1:32 pm

    As a matter of personal choice ,I don’t consume alcohol. I have never cared or tried to prevent anyone from drinking in my presence. What makes them so special?

  23. Linda Rivera says

    Jul 18, 2019 at 3:19 pm

    The fake conservative, vile Telegraph spit on British culture and elevate Islam and Sharia. The Dirty, Disgusting TRAITORS.

  24. FYI says

    Jul 19, 2019 at 8:03 am

    Is it “insulting islam and its prophet” to use the expression when offering drink to a muslim,”what is your poison”?

    Does it remind muslims about the awkward and inconvenient fact that muhammed failed the poison test thus proving himself to be a fraud as allah didn’t save him?

    “Hey Umar.Check out this delicious leg of lamb.mmmm.{slobbering and slurping}It’s to die for.

    It was lovingly prepared for me by a jewish woman whose husband i killed{munch,munch}…I’ll bet it is not poisoned …..but even if it is, allah will surely save me like he saved Jesus from calamity”

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