Facebook and the other social media giants are increasingly dangerous enemies of freedom. If they aren’t broken up, the freedom of speech, and free societies, will not survive.
“Facebook removes Norwegian top politician’s post about Tommy Robinson,” Voice of Europe, July 18, 2019:
“It’s deeply, deeply problematic”, says Per-Willy Amundsen, former Justice Minister in Norway. His Facebook status about Tommy Robinson has also been censored.
“Tommy should be granted asylum in Norway, since the United Kingdom has betrayed freedom of speech. He is politically persued”, top politician Per-Willy Amundsen, posted about the British activist on 11 July.
Amundsen then added: “This will definitely be a post that Facebook will erase.”
And the social media giant did.
“You can think what you want about Robinson. Nevertheless, it is frightening that Facebook is removing and censuring opinions”, Amundsen says to Medier24.…
Yes.
WPM says
So if you say someone should be given asylum in your country because in your “opinion” he faces jail for speaking his “opinion “in his home country your post will be removed from face book? Hitler and Stalin would be proud of face book stance today .A modern version of book burning internet style !
nicu says
We in Germany call it stasi – book – ( stasi former GDR secret police like Gestapo )
smoris says
Unless we stand up to Merkel we will continue to allow her to override our own laws and Constitution. Quite a lot of power for us to give a little East German failure like Merkel, who has destroyed her own country and people. After all, why not? What’s wrong the the US being the slave of East German Stasi? Maybe she will need to disclipline Pence now, too. Call him in on the carpet. Maybe, since she is dictating to American citizens directly from Berlin, the citizens of America should just simply vote her out. Or otherwise take the little witch down.
smoris says
Or, tear a page out of her own book – nationalize Facebook and subject it to US instead of German laws. I’m never in favor of nationalizing free enterprise, but when it is used in the service of our enemies it is time to deal with it in a more draconian way. We are at war with Islam and others who would “delete” our Constitution. We need to deal with Facebook and Zuckerberg as enemies of our country.
smoris says
Amundsen made this statement July 11. We are only hearing about it now, July 20, 9 days later. A lot can happen in 9 days, including murder in a lawless prison run by criminals. Of course, in Britain, it is no longer a matter of criminals in prisons. Their greatest criminals sit on the bench and in the highest offices of British government. Shame on Britain, shame on Facebook, and shame on Mike Pence (and the rest of the Administration) for his huge omission of Robinson when he called for release of other political prisoners of other fascist regimes. Because Britain IS A “FACIST REGIME”. if you do not describe it as such, the words have no meaning.
Angemon says
More transparent than Twitter’s “throttling/shadowbanning” system…
Norwegian says
As a Norwegian I found this extremely provocative…
I always thought the Norwegian government and Norwegian laws ruled Norway. But, but…apparently Facebook does! Since they have the nerve to call the PM’s office and give orders…
This is ridiculous….
mortimer says
Not just ridiculous, but infuriating and unacceptable. Facebook is acting as if it is a sovereign state that dictate to the world. They must be reduced in power.
eduardo odraude says
Facebook is immensely larger than all the alternatives and must be considered a virtual monopoly and broken up. When you get that big, you can’t give yourself the power to control speech and thought.
The remedy for bad speech is more speech, not censorship.
Speech that no one finds offensive needs no protection. Free speech laws are there precisely to protect “offensive” speech some person or group might try to silence.
gravenimage says
I’m not sure that having dhimmi governments owning Facebook would be better…
Walter Sieruk says
Just to inform anyone who might be interested, Facebook sent me two new rebukes ,since it banned me for thirty days for keyboarding that “Islam is a death cult. ” By the way Facebook didn’t care how much information I gave to back my statement up , it just b and me for a “violation of their community standards ”
As for new E-mail rebukes Facebook sent to me . First was as the thesis statement started off with “There are no human rights in that brutal and cruel ‘mullah regime’ of Iran.’..”
The other rebuke for for totally condemning “Muslim terrorists suicide /homicide bombings in the Philippines…” Which also declared a “violation of their cu,,unity standards .”
So I can and will take that thirty day ban and those two Facebook E-mail rebukes asa badge of honor..
GreekEmpress says
Walter,
Thank you for keeping up the good fight.
Lilith Wept says
Me too! I can’t remember for what “truth “ about Islam that FB suspended me about…this is my 3rd or 4th 30 day suspension….There’s someone who keeps reporting me….sometimes for posts that are a year old or even older!
It’s become a badge of honor to be suspended or deleted from these social media platforms …
because we are the Truth Tellers and I refuse to be silenced……one way or another I WILL find a way to keep posting the truth of what Islam, what Islam does and that we are in a fight ( started by Mohamed the fake prophet) for our civilization!
We all need to stand up for what we believe in and stop allowing g out tolerance and lethargy allow Islam to spread its influence and eventually to take our country from under neath our noses…
I will keep fighting any way I can..,because I refuse to submit, I refuse to live on my knees…I will stand on my feet,tellingbthe trith about islam, fighting against Islam, and defending my country’s freedoms until I breathe my last….
Ted Tyler says
Sounds like good intentions – but I see no plan to make the dream a reality.
Linda Rivera says
I’m also on my third or fourth 30 day suspension from Facebook.
Linda Rivera says
I was suspended for 30 days because I protested about Tommy Robinson being unjustly imprisoned saying everyone should take to the streets to protest his imprisonment and to protest the sex slavery of our non Muslim girls by the Muslim sex slaver gangs.
I was told I violated community standards.
mortimer says
Many of us have been banned because we have spoken out against globalism or other related issues. The Globalists don’t want the ordinary people to see they are in a CONSPIRACY with Islam for the purpose of destroying Western civilization.
CRUSADER says
Is Islam purposefully destroying Western civilization, mr m,
or is the Globalists, or both?
Please ‘splain, in only the way YOU can, oh great one!
nicu says
I was 2 years banned from STASI book – with breaks – finally I have left it for good : Arabian and Turkish posts don’t get checked – but speaking truth about Islam make them ban you or even worse : i know that users had cops at home cos Fuckbook reported them for hate speech ! danke , Merkel
nicu says
Mr Zuckerberg converted meanwhile ?
mortimer says
Zuckerberg is so fond of enforcing Sharia blasphemy law and repressing freedom of speech, that you would think he had converted ! Zuckerberg is a virtue-signalling, freedom-hating dictator. FACEBOOK’S BOARD OF DIRECTORS SHOULD FIRE ZUCKERBERG … and I’m sure they are itching to do it.
Wellington says
Farcebook strikes another blow against freedom.
Anyone who cares about liberty should get the hell out of any registry with Farcebook. Way overdue and no excuses accepted.
GreekEmpress says
Amen, Wellington. I never joined—they are out of control.
CRUSADER says
Glad I’ve not partaken in artificial “social” media, either!
Keeping as acoustic as possible.
(I do need to have time to forge and sharpen broadswords, of course.)
CRUSADER says
BVC, have you tried Brave.com ?
mortimer says
Facebook has exposed itself as totally biased against nationalists. They have made it a crime to oppose globalism.
mortimer says
President Trump should give Per-Willy Amundsen the Presidential Medal of Freedom.
James Lincoln says
There needs to be an alternative to Facebook…
Perhaps a conservative company, staffed by conservatives, could create a new Facebook – like product.
Posted content could be vetted by conservatives.
John Magne Trane says
Thinkspot.
Jordan B Peterson and others are making one, beta testing is ongoing, and you can sign up.
James Lincoln says
Thanks!
Udo Berg says
The German Epoch Times account was also censored it looks like the same thing!
AFD Politician BYSTRON(himself an political Refugee from Communists)wrote that he want to give Robinson Asylum.
Epoch Times posted it…they they were censored.
https://www.epochtimes.de/politik/deutschland/nicht-mehr-erreichbar-epoch-times-deutsch-von-facebook-entfernt-a2942376.html
Lydia Church says
Their agendas are advancing. Anyone not towing their party lines is ostracized. These things, as shockingly bad as they are, don’t surprise me at all.
To add to the running commentary from yesterday and the day before, etc….
I read about the story in several places about the female soccer player that was kicked out for being a Christian. Oh, of course they won’t admit that that’s why, but trust me, it is. You can read about it on Christian News Network and Freedom Project (FP Media), the last one is posted today, CNN a few days back. This is exactly how it went during the nazi regime. Jews were unfairly kicked out from various positions merely for being Jewish. This time it is Christians with a strong witness that are the target.
This is how the ‘re-education’ camp works, they vilify us and there are incidents like this to put the pressure on and instill fear in the rest of the population. That is how they control. They can’t lock us all up, but by using a few case examples, they can scare most of the population into silence and compliance. Except, of course, for those of us with a backbone who can’t be repressed and refuse to be bullied and won’t compromise under any amount of pressure or threats, and no matter the consequences for noncompliance.
But it is a perfect case in point of their mode of operation, and among many other examples.
On another note, I read on Rather Expose Them about the summit:
“Addressing the defense of religious freedom at the 2019 Western Conservative Summit in Colorado”
SEN. JOHN ANDREWS: KNOW OUR ENEMY OR LOSE OUR LIBERTY~”DEFENDING RELIGIOUS FREEDOM & AMERICA’S FIRST AMENDMENT”
and they mention Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller’s work and it’s a good speech.
At least, he acknowledges the need to stop cowering under the table.
OF COURSE we are supposed to speak our truth and not tiptoe around those who would be ‘offended’! That is the first retreat that is a mistake, giving the enemy more territory. But that is not enough. Anyway, he gets into the issue about sharia and the Constitution and those who hold another ‘revelation’ above something else. But that is not the problem, the problem is ‘what’ revelation? For instance, and again I will use nazi Germany, it can come up anywhere, if they have something on their laws that contradicts the ways of God, we must disobey the laws in order to obey God. So of course a Christian holds the law of God above any laws of the land or governments or man. (Acts 5; 29, etc.) And that is good, otherwise how would we justify disobeying orders to kill the Jews? Again, it all comes down to what laws, what morality, whose ways, how good are they, and what ‘god’? Ultimately the true ways and morality of the God of the Christian Bible are the only standard. The Constitution is good, because it is not in contradiction with that and we simultaneously obey it when we obey God.
Examples from the Bible of disobeying the government in order to obeying God:
1. Acts 5; 29
The Jewish leaders (both political and religious) commanded Peter and another apostle to stop preaching Jesus, to which they responded that they must continue to preach Jesus because that’s what God wants, even if the leaders do not. Yes, they were beaten, and yes, they kept right on preaching Jesus.
2. In Exodus 1, pharaoh told the midwives to kill the Hebrew infants after birth, and they DISOBEYED, letting them live, and LIED about it to pharaoh later, saying that they just give birth quickly so they were not able to, and as a result, God BLESSED the midwives.
3. In Daniel 3, King Neb commanded all in his kingdom to bow down and worship an idol, of course true worshipers of God cannot do this, so Daniel’s 3 friends disobeyed and were thrown into the fiery furnace, and God preserved them and Jesus was with them. This resulted in the king giving the opposite edict, that all must worship the God of Daniel’s 3 friends! So who says it doesn’t pay off?!
4. Later in the book of Daniel, the king is tricked into issuing an edict about only praying to him or his gods, not to any other gods. Well of course Daniel continues to pray to the real God every day. He gets caught because it was a trap for him by those enemies who tricked the king into issuing the edict. Well that is what lead to Daniel in the lion’s den, where he is preserved and comes out alive, again a testimony of God’s faithfulness to those who serve Him, and is one of many types of Christ (death, burial, resurrection) in the Bible.
Many lessons to be learned about how to act according to these issues!
Norger says
So I clicked on the link to the Voice of Europe article because I had to learn more about the reasoning for this one. Appears that it’s this:
“Facebook has recently adapted a policy which stipulates censorship of all postings that support “dangerous individuals or organisations. Tommy Robinson’s name is included on that list.”
So…once an individual has been branded as “dangerous” by Facebook, no expressions of support for that person are allowed, including a political leaders’ statement that a “dangerous,” if controversial, individual should be granted asylum in that political leader’s own country. Beyond unbelievable. Total fascist thought control. Pure evil at work.
Norger says
Facebook, allow me to suggest some organizations far more dangerous than Tommy Robinson for you to zero in on with your censorship ban: the Muslim Brotherhood, Muslims Students Association, CAIR, Islamic Society of North America etc. etc. You feel me?
CRUSADER says
EXCELLENT !
Georg says
What a sickening organization Facebook is. Brazenly silencing politicians of a Western democracy… Hopefully there will be some justice.
eduardo odraude says
Can hardly wait till Facebook gets its comeuppance. If the government decides to break it up one day, I’ll be cheering. I hope Mark Zuckerburg ends up broke along with all his corporate censors.
TKF says
Facebook is EVIL…
Eric Jones says
The USA should give Tommy Robinson asylum. I have signed the petition. Does anyone know if Trump or any other USA authority is moving on asylum for Tommy Robinson?
Eric
UNCLE VLADDI says
Norway should ban FASCBOOK and see how fast they come groveling when their revenues are threatened!
John Magne Trane says
I wanted to congratulate Amundsen (He’s from my “county”, yay!) on Facebook, but found out I couldn’t. Since I had linked to an article about Tommy, and was banned for 3 days…
smart guy says
Well if Norway is going to give Tommy asylum then they are going to have to get him out of jail before he is murdered.
Elaine says
why are people still ON face book – ban them before they ban you
Mary C. says
There have been many times when I’ve come close to leaving FB altogether. But with so many family and friends on there…you know what I mean, right?
Mary C. says
I’m in 30-day Fascistbook jail yet again, because this petition to support Tommy Robinson was deemed a violation of community standards. GAH!
https://www.knightstemplarorder.com/support-tommy
infidel says
The social media giants are just disgusting indeed just like the poison Ivy leagues
dsinc says
Fakebook can go straight to hell, and take Zuckerberg with it.
Edward Cline says
I put this article on my FaceBook page.
Edward Cline says
I put this article on my FaceBook page. It’s still there
Norger says
Interested to learn whether the censors take it down; I think they have to, according to their own fascistic “rules.”
gravenimage says
Top Norwegian politician says on Facebook that Norway should give Tommy Robinson asylum, Facebook removes post
………………….
Good for Norway. Facebook keeps getting worse and worse, though.
Robert_k says
Facebook does asylum to Hamas, Hezbullah, and various Palestinian killers. So iFacebook isn’t all prejudiced.
George Parker says
The media bias is disgusting and must be reversed.